On Sun, 23 May 2021 22:21:04 +0100, T i m <
ne...@spaced.me.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 23 May 2021 19:57:45 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
> <
C...@nospam.com> wrote:
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>> Bollocks, killing is 1 billion times worse than torture.
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> When it's done to humans it's generally called murder.
Irrelevant what you call it. Would you rather me torture you in horrific ways for a month, then let you go, or kill you "humanely"? Hint - one of them deprives you of the rest of your life. This is why we are stupid to kill animals "humanely" - it's the killing that's the bad part, not the way it's done.
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>> Bullshit. You need vitamins X Y and Z and that's it.
>
> And that's the thing, a lot of these carnists consider the flesh of a
> tiny subset of all the animal species as some sort of unique elixir of
> life when many million people around the globe have been living long,
> happy and healthy lives for thousands of years without any?
>
> So, given all matter is made up of a fixed range of components, meat
> is no different and as you say, if you were insist that you *had* to
> eat meat (when it's clear that you don't) to get these, they could be
> put together in the same quantities in the form of a plant based
> tablet or lump of syntho animal flesh, if you really had to.
>
> We have to ensure livestock have their right levels of B12 by feeding
> them and implanting them with synthesised stuff *anyway*, why don't we
> take it ourselves *anyway* (and most people do of course, vegan or
> otherwise as many foodstuff are already fortified to try to deal with
> the 40% of the (mostly meat eating) population and who are B12
> deficient) cut out all the pain, suffering, animal death,
> exploitation, environmental destruction that is *also* harming
> millions of other animals (wildlife) AND US!
>
>
https://ibb.co/995p2sR
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> It's *not* part of a 'natural diet' when the animal has been created
> unnaturally, kept unnaturally, fed unnaturally (high protein foods
> making them gain meat mass in very short periods so their bones
> collapse as they haven't grown as fast) and kill unnaturally (with no
> hope of escape or defending itself) and comes full of chemicals that
> would never occur in nature and that are making viruses that are
> lethal to mankind antibiotic resistant.
Agreed in its entirety.