Adding spacers between gutters and fascia?
Dan Hicks
>
> Hi,
>
> When it rains, it pours... into our basement, on to our porch, etc.
>
> I "fixed" this problem for our porch by adding spacers between the eave
> fascia and the gutter brackets. The drip edge of the shingle roof is
> still over the gutter (K-style), but is toward the back part of the
> gutter (closest to the eaves) rather than the front part. Water now
> seems to be going into the gutter (and is diverted elsewhere) rather
> than innundating our patio/porch.
>
> Since I am having the roof redone (and I'm rehanging the gutters with
> brackets rather than nailing them on to the roof or spiking them into
> the eaves), I'm wondering if I should be putting spacers in there as
> well (since we also have water overshooting those gutters).
>
> The spacers also prevent sagging of the gutters (which both the nail-on
> and spike approach seem to suffer from) and let some air circulate on
> the eaves.
The spacers are a good idea from the air circulation point of view, but
if the water is overshooting the way you describe then the gutters are
set too low or the drip edge is too wide.
Bill Michalek
gutters right and avoid this bracket and spacer thing? You didn't say what
kind of roof you have so I'm not clear as to why the water is overshooting.
If you have composition shingles then indeed, it sounds like the gutter is
too low. If you have a tile roof, or shake shingles, then just be sure they
have the proper projection for your gutters.
If you do install brackets and/or spacers and you're not familiar with
gutter installation, then don't be surprised to find them laying on the
ground in the near future.
BTW, if you're going to the expense of having a new roof installed, why
don't you have new gutters installed too? They're not all that expensive.
Bill Michalek
http://www.sdraingutters.com
<ssze...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8sfci9$niq$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Hi,
>
> When it rains, it pours... into our basement, on to our porch, etc.
>
> I "fixed" this problem for our porch by adding spacers between the eave
> fascia and the gutter brackets. The drip edge of the shingle roof is
> still over the gutter (K-style), but is toward the back part of the
> gutter (closest to the eaves) rather than the front part. Water now
> seems to be going into the gutter (and is diverted elsewhere) rather
> than innundating our patio/porch.
>
> Since I am having the roof redone (and I'm rehanging the gutters with
> brackets rather than nailing them on to the roof or spiking them into
> the eaves), I'm wondering if I should be putting spacers in there as
> well (since we also have water overshooting those gutters).
>
> The spacers also prevent sagging of the gutters (which both the nail-on
> and spike approach seem to suffer from) and let some air circulate on
> the eaves.
>
> Is this all a bad idea that I'll really pay for later?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
>
>
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> Before you buy.
Bill Michalek
<ssze...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8sgbm1$j5h$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> In article <39EB9005...@ieee.org>,
> Dan Hicks <danh...@ieee.org> wrote:
> > The spacers are a good idea from the air circulation point of view,
> > but if the water is overshooting the way you describe then the
> > gutters are set too low or the drip edge is too wide.
>
> The gutters are within half an inch (vertically) of the drip edge and
> the edge is the suggested 1.5 inches for cedar shingle.
>
> It looks to me that the gutters should be wider (given the pitch of the
> roof) than standard to accommodate the rainfall, but I've not seen any
> that are. Hence, my decision to move them out from the fascia to give
> more "useful" area for catching the rain.
Dan Hicks
>
> In article <39EB9005...@ieee.org>,
> Dan Hicks <danh...@ieee.org> wrote:
> > but if the water is overshooting the way you describe then the
> > gutters are set too low or the drip edge is too wide.
>
> the edge is the suggested 1.5 inches for cedar shingle.
>
> It looks to me that the gutters should be wider (given the pitch of the
> roof) than standard to accommodate the rainfall, but I've not seen any
> that are. Hence, my decision to move them out from the fascia to give
> more "useful" area for catching the rain.
I think your problem is the double layer of shakes. That adds about an
inch to the height of the roof.
Dan Hicks
>
> In article <39ECD757...@ieee.org>,
> Dan Hicks <danh...@ieee.org> wrote:
> > I think your problem is the double layer of shakes. That adds
> > about an inch to the height of the roof.
>
>
> However, just eyeballin' things makes it look like heavy rain will
> still overshoot on the shingle-only roof.
>
> I guess I mainly want to know whether the only problem with adding the
> spacers (so long as they are still placing the drip line within the
> gutter) is simply more work on my part (for catching that once-every-
> ten-or-fifty-year rain) or if I'm actually going to be causing myself
> more problems than I'm curing.
>
> Making more work for myself is not a problem (do it all of the
> time :) ), but adding to my problems is not something I need to exert
> effort on (I also know how to do that, but with minimal effort).
So long as the spacers don't cause the gutter to sag, as so long as they
don't cause more water to drip behing the gutters, they could cause no
problems, and might actually make the fascia hold up better against rot,
etc.
anthonyc...@gmail.com
> Hi,
>
> When it rains, it pours... into our basement, on to our porch, etc.
>
> I "fixed" this problem for our porch by adding spacers between the eave
> fascia and the gutter brackets. The drip edge of the shingle roof is
> still over the gutter (K-style), but is toward the back part of the
> gutter (closest to the eaves) rather than the front part. Water now
> seems to be going into the gutter (and is diverted elsewhere) rather
> than innundating our patio/porch.
>
> Since I am having the roof redone (and I'm rehanging the gutters with
> brackets rather than nailing them on to the roof or spiking them into
> the eaves), I'm wondering if I should be putting spacers in there as
> well (since we also have water overshooting those gutters).
>
> The spacers also prevent sagging of the gutters (which both the nail-on
> and spike approach seem to suffer from) and let some air circulate on
> the eaves.
>
> Is this all a bad idea that I'll really pay for later?
>