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dino...@prodigy.net

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Oct 8, 2001, 10:39:27 PM10/8/01
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I need to repaint out dining room and am interrestted in
hearing opinions as to what you all think the best brand might be. I
want something that is going to be durable and cover well. Any advice
would be appreciated.

Vaughn

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Oct 8, 2001, 10:46:18 PM10/8/01
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Many good ones. Price is an indications since the better the cover the Tio2
and a higher price. I love Benjamin Moore but there are others as good.

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Len

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Oct 9, 2001, 12:33:21 AM10/9/01
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When I ask the pros they tell me Kelly Moore is good stuff. Should be for
the prices.
From what I've read the amount of SOLIDS, per cent wise, is one indication.
Make sure the solids are pigment.

Jsaime

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Oct 9, 2001, 9:08:34 AM10/9/01
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I have owned a painting company and swore by Benjamin Moore. Although
Consumer Reports rates Behr very high. Because of that article I tried Behr
and was VERY impressed. Paint - either Behr or Benjamin Moore. Stain -
Sherwin Williams. Remember, I have found that if you cut corners on price
when it comes to paint it will show. Benjamin Moore interior is about
$28.00 a gallon for the premium "Regal" and Behr is likewise. HTH.

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Jeff Buck

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Oct 9, 2001, 10:23:15 AM10/9/01
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Pratt and Lamber Accolade

Mike Plummer

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Oct 9, 2001, 4:00:05 PM10/9/01
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Your on the right track to find a good brand. However, if what's
underneath is crap, you'll have headaches no matter what you use. The
builder that built our house (note I didn't say "our builder") used
Hallman Lindsay on the walls - horrible horrible HORRIBLE! It's like
chalk - and no matter what you throw on top of it, it gets sucked up
like a sponge. No matter what we do we need almost 2 coats of primer
and then 2 finish coats of paint.

My mother-in-law does lots of very high-end faux finishing
professionally, and my wife's an interior decorator - and everything
we've done in our houses (and trust me - every room has been painted
and some re-painted) has been Benjamin Moore. It's great stuff.
However - lately we've stumbled onto the brand "Fleer". I don't
remember if that's quite how it's spelled, but the stuff literally
does not splatter when rolled on. I've seen no-splatter claims
before, but this honestly does not splatter - especially if you're
using a high quality roller and roller pad. It isn't cheap - about
the same as Benjamin Moore - but it covers just as well.

Anyways, for what it's worth...

Jsaime

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Oct 9, 2001, 4:12:40 PM10/9/01
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mike,

Can you tell me where you get Fleer? I have never heard of it. Thanks in
advance.

Jaime
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Michelle Hartner

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:03:07 PM10/9/01
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I recently painted with Sherwin Williams, and was very happy with it.

I know you said you are doing a dining room, so this is a little OT, but I
bought Sherwin Williams' Bathroom paint, and it is really nice...

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Arthur Gostick

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:04:42 PM10/9/01
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use benjamin moore's latex aquavelvet for a velvet finish with the
highest durability.

ART

Arthur Gostick

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:07:01 PM10/9/01
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you can't judge by solids per volume because you need to know what the
solids are. could be white titanium powder or chalk filler, what do you
think is more durable. 1 pd of titanium or 3 pds of chalk.

ART

Arthur Gostick

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:08:57 PM10/9/01
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i find behr although a ok product does not have the quality control like
ben moore. batches are too different and colors vary to much.

ART

Arthur Gostick

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:10:48 PM10/9/01
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since pratt and lambert was bought by sherwin williams the quality has
suffered alot. using the good name to sell econo products.

ART

Dart

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:31:17 PM10/9/01
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dino...@prodigy.net wrote:

> I need to repaint out dining room and am interrestted in
>hearing opinions as to what you all think the best brand might be.

One brand you definitely want to avoid is Universal. It's probably sold
only in the West, but it's garbage, even worse than what Standard Brands
used to sell. It barely hides, and if you try to clean the flat
interior paint it just rubs off. Absolute garbage.

Consumer Reports had a couple of ratings articles last summer. Price
and quality didn't match that closely, and I think Lowe's Valspar
paints were at or near the top of the ratings. In the past, there
hasn't been a close relationship between brands and quality - sometimes
a certain brand would be all over the map, taking both top and bottom
positions in the ratings, and sometimes the only difference was that one
paint was flat and the other was eggshell/semi-gloss.

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Paul B.

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Oct 9, 2001, 8:52:05 PM10/9/01
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Arthur Gostick wrote:
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> since pratt and lambert was bought by sherwin williams the quality has
> suffered alot. using the good name to sell econo products.

I heard that initially, SW tried to combine some raw material suppliers
to cut costs, but it raised such a furor that they switched back. I
dunno, as our P&L stores closed down quite a few years ago.

Paul
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Arthur Gostick

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Oct 9, 2001, 10:48:02 PM10/9/01
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don't know if you are familiar with canadian tire in Canada. they used
to sell selectone brand crap. they have always sold terrible paint. they
now sell pratt and lambert. not a good sign of qualtiy.


ART

Mike Plummer

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Oct 10, 2001, 9:01:38 AM10/10/01
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I'll look for the correct way to spell the name and see what I can
find. We buy it a local paint store - not a Home Depot/Lowes type
store. I'll repond here or via e-mail when I find out something for
you.

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Jane

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Oct 10, 2001, 8:06:38 PM10/10/01
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Consumer Reports June 2001 issue addresses this question! I have been having
the same problem picking out the best paint myself. The top two were on
their chart:
Low-Luster paints:
Valspar American Tradition Satin a CR best Buy
Sears Easly Living Satin
However, they are saying to consider Sears Best Easy Living satin, True
Value E-Z Care, ...there are others that rank well too.
My bigger problem is what color to pick for my living room. The family of
whites always seems safe, but I would like to try something different. Our
ceilings are low and the room is more on the square side..a medium size
room. We get lots of light. Our furniture is sage & tan w/ a little
burgandy. We have honey oak hw floors...any suggestions????
Thank you,
Jane

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Jsaime

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Oct 11, 2001, 9:38:03 AM10/11/01
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Jane,

We have sage furniture as well. We painted the walls "White Dove" (a
typical off white) and stenciled along the top of the walls with a sage
green and a deep yellow. Also painted trim to match. Looks great and the
stencil looks like it took days to do but it was EXTREMELY easy and
completed in less than two hours. Hope this helps.

Jaime
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Don

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Oct 11, 2001, 10:09:01 AM10/11/01
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I have always had good luck with Sears Best interior and exterior paints.

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Jane

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Oct 11, 2001, 7:06:47 PM10/11/01
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Thanks Jsaime...what design did you stencil? Your colors sound very nice...I
have low ceilings, do you think that stenciling would be too much?
Thanks.

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Jsaime

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Oct 12, 2001, 9:45:36 AM10/12/01
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Jane we went to a local art store and got a common stencil. A stem and
small leaves - sage - and the flowers - yellow. If you try this there are a
couple of pointers. First: get the plastic stencil and a spray adhesive.
This will stick to your wall without moving and will not leave a mark.
Also, a couple of quick sprays lasts about the length of one wall. Second,
get the stick stencil "paint". It looks like a big crayon and you just
scribble on a piece of stencil paper and dip your brush into that. Third:
Be creative. If you are going to use a flower pattern you do not have to
paint every flower...sometimes random looks better and is not as dominant.

The stencil was about $15.00, the paint sticks $4.00 each, the spray $3.00,
the brushes $6.00, and the brush cleaner $4.00. So, for a total of $42.00
and two hours of work we made the living room look great. Also you can put
just one part of the stencil above light switches, drapes, or even around
doorways. Hope this helps. Email me if you have more questions.
jaime...@bigfoot.com


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dino...@prodigy.net

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Oct 12, 2001, 4:32:23 PM10/12/01
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tHANKS TO EVERYONE WHO RESPONEDED/ WE SETTLED ON BENFAMIN MOORE AND
WERE VERY HAPPY WITH THE RESULTS. SURE BEATS THE BEHR PAINT WE USED
IN MY SONS BEDROOM. (5 COAATS AND STLL NEEDS MORE)

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Jim & Carol Smithson

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Oct 21, 2001, 1:13:44 PM10/21/01
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strange...we used Benjamin Moore before and felt like we could not put
enough coats up...especially a yellow color..just wouldn't cover well. We
have been using the latest formulation of Behr paint both satin and semi
with excellent results. Using an excellent roller pad as well.

--
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Michelle Hartner

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Nov 1, 2001, 8:20:31 PM11/1/01
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You've probably painted already, Jane, but I think a warm goldenrod would
look great with sage and burgandy...

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