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Suzie-Q

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Sep 6, 2010, 11:57:01 PM9/6/10
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I have put some rat (mouse) poison in one of my cabinets
because of a serious amount of mouse droppings. Lately
I have found roaches (the big ones) feasting on the rat
poison. My question is, is the rat poison going to kill
the roaches?

My plan is to buy some roach poison, but if the rat poison
will eventually kill them, I'll just let them keep eating
that!

Thanks in advance,

Sue

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The Daring Dufas

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Sep 7, 2010, 1:41:37 AM9/7/10
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On 9/6/2010 10:57 PM, Suzie-Q wrote:
> I have put some rat (mouse) poison in one of my cabinets
> because of a serious amount of mouse droppings. Lately
> I have found roaches (the big ones) feasting on the rat
> poison. My question is, is the rat poison going to kill
> the roaches?
>
> My plan is to buy some roach poison, but if the rat poison
> will eventually kill them, I'll just let them keep eating
> that!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sue
>
> (This has also been posted on alt.consumers.pest-control.)

I put out some mouse traps with peanut butter on the trigger
and ants came along and ate the peanut butter. I put out ant
bait and mice chewed the carriers open and ate the ant bait.
It's a pest conspiracy, they have meetings you know.

TDD

Han

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Sep 7, 2010, 7:40:57 AM9/7/10
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Suzie-Q <sme...@gmail.com> wrote in news:sme617x-926DDF.22570106092010
@news.giganews.com:

> I have put some rat (mouse) poison in one of my cabinets
> because of a serious amount of mouse droppings. Lately
> I have found roaches (the big ones) feasting on the rat
> poison. My question is, is the rat poison going to kill
> the roaches?
>
> My plan is to buy some roach poison, but if the rat poison
> will eventually kill them, I'll just let them keep eating
> that!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sue
>
> (This has also been posted on alt.consumers.pest-control.)

If it is Warfarin, it is a substance that interferes with blood clotting,
so the animal dies from bleeding, essentially. I don't think the cockroach
has a blood clotting system that would be susceptible.

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Frank

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Sep 7, 2010, 7:53:46 AM9/7/10
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On 9/6/2010 11:57 PM, Suzie-Q wrote:
> I have put some rat (mouse) poison in one of my cabinets
> because of a serious amount of mouse droppings. Lately
> I have found roaches (the big ones) feasting on the rat
> poison. My question is, is the rat poison going to kill
> the roaches?
>
> My plan is to buy some roach poison, but if the rat poison
> will eventually kill them, I'll just let them keep eating
> that!
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Sue
>
> (This has also been posted on alt.consumers.pest-control.)

Rat poison may kill roaches but I would also buy poison designed for
roaches. Toxicity towards various substances can vary greatly between
species and you want a poison designed for the target pest.

I prefer to trap mice in the old fashioned snap traps. I've used poison
but dead mice in the walls may cause a stink.

PopeyeTheSailor

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Sep 7, 2010, 9:43:08 AM9/7/10
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http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/Rat-Poison-vs-Cockroaches-491075-.htm
PopeyeTheSailor wrote:
I would be careful about putting rat poison inside your home. It is
likely that the rat will die (usually 3 to 5 days after ingesting the
poison) in a wall and stink up your house for an extended period of time.
I recommend using poisons outside and traps inside.

Happy hunting!

Suzie-Q wrote:


> I have put some rat (mouse) poison in one of my cabinets
> because of a serious amount of mouse droppings. Lately
> I have found roaches (the big ones) feasting on the rat
> poison. My question is, is the rat poison going to kill
> the roaches?

> My plan is to buy some roach poison, but if the rat poison
> will eventually kill them, I'll just let them keep eating
> that!

> Thanks in advance,

> Sue

> (This has also been posted on alt.consumers.pest-control.)


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Andy

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Sep 7, 2010, 10:37:33 AM9/7/10
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Andy comments:

Sprinkle Boric acid (Roach Prufe) powder on the surface and put the
rat
poison in the middle.

The Boric acid won't deter the rats, but will wipe out the roaches.
It isn't
poisonous, but interferes with there reproductive system.

Boric Acid doesn't do much against ants. However, if you lay about
a
1 inch circle of Seven Dust on the outside perimeter of the Borid
acid
spread, it will kill the ants. You may also have some dead roaches
to
clean up, tho, so if you don't have an ant problem, don't use it.....

Boric acid isn't poisonous to people, and has been uses as an
eyewash
when chemically pure. It is also called orthoboric acid. It' won't
kill pets
but will completely eliminate a roach problem...

Personally, for mice/rats, I use standard traps baited with peanut
butter.
If roaches are a problem, I put it in the middle of a Boric acid
spread......

..... ya gotta tailor the weapon to the pest...

Andy in Eureka, Texas


PS If you have a sign saying "HACIENDA" on the side of your truck,
it will keep Mexicans away....

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Don Klipstein

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Sep 7, 2010, 6:26:15 PM9/7/10
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In <5a1e8fd0-4771-41ab...@j18g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
Andy wrote in part:

>Sprinkle Boric acid (Roach Prufe) powder on the surface and put the
>rat poison in the middle.
>
> The Boric acid won't deter the rats, but will wipe out the roaches.
>It isn't poisonous, but interferes with there reproductive system.

Wiki says it has a toxic effect on roaches if eaten by them, and it
also mucks up their exoskeletons.

My experience is that Combat and similar roach baits are somewhat
effective.

Also in my experience, little else easily available kills roaches except
brute force, heat, and getting them wet with organic solvents.
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Red

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Sep 8, 2010, 12:01:21 AM9/8/10
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On Sep 7, 5:26 pm, d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:

>
> >  The Boric acid won't deter the rats, but will wipe out the roaches.
> >It isn't poisonous, but interferes with there reproductive system.
>
>   Wiki says it has a toxic effect on roaches if eaten by them, and it
> also mucks up their exoskeletons.
>
>   My experience is that Combat and similar roach baits are somewhat
> effective.
>
>   Also in my experience, little else easily available kills roaches except
> brute force, heat, and getting them wet with organic solvents.
> --
>  - Don Klipstein (d...@misty.com)

Here's a DIY recipe for a guaranteed killer roach bait.

1/4c boric acid
1/4c flour & corn meal mix
2 tbs bacon grease
1 tsp sugar
1 tsp minced onion.
Add just enough water to make a semi-stiff paste.
Roll in small balls and place under appliances, in cabinets, closets,
etc. (anywhere pets can't get them).

Tegger

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Sep 8, 2010, 7:30:05 AM9/8/10
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gfre...@aol.com wrote in news:59kc86lkg5trhcb62...@4ax.com:


>
> You may be sorry you used the poison anyway. If that mouse dies in the
> wall you will be living with the smell for a while.
>


Ayup. I've had that exact thing happen. The stench lingers until the
carcass mummifies, which can take months. And you'll /never/ locate the
body until you start ripping out walls!

As far as I know, cockroaches have a series of air tubes in their bodies.
It is these which carry oxygen to where it's needed. Warfarin only works on
animals that have blood-circulatory systems similar to humans, so it won't
work on roaches.


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Andy

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Sep 8, 2010, 9:20:29 AM9/8/10
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Andy comments:

No doubt that will kill the roaches.....

In a couple decades of renting houses to people who often
weren't as clean as I would have liked, I used the following
method to get rid of roaches:

I open all the cabinets and nooks and crannies in
closets and put in a tablespoon of Boric Acid. Then
I would set my vacuum cleaner on "blow" and blow
the powder around in such a manner as to put a
very light coating in all the dark places, under counters
behind drawers, etc. Then I would warn the tenants
not to vacuum up the powder if they came upon it.

Within a few days there would be no roaches, and there
would be no dead roaches all over the floor or in the
cabinets to clean up...

Whatever the mechanism, the critters apparently went
back to their nests to die.

I didn't use poisons, since that would leave dead roach
bodies all over the place, be harmful to pets and small
children, etc.........

Just the powder did the trick....

Another way is to dissolve the powder in water and
use a sprayer to coat everything I could find. The water
would evaporate and leave an ultra thin residue on the
surface that also worked well...... They don't have to
eat it, just walk on it.....

Anyway, I'm just passing along first hand experience
that was developed by trial and error. If you have a better
way, this is certainly the place to post it...


Andy in Eureka, Texas

Higgs Boson

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Sep 8, 2010, 12:45:00 PM9/8/10
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Seems like a lot of trouble, no offense. I got rid of mine by simply
strewing boric acid in all likely places INCLUDING under shelf paper
and drawer liners. Around baseboards and entrances, of course.

Smitty Two

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Sep 8, 2010, 12:57:03 PM9/8/10
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In article <slrni8df0...@manx.misty.com>,
d...@manx.misty.com (Don Klipstein) wrote:

My vote goes to Roach Prufe.

Andy

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Sep 9, 2010, 9:13:12 AM9/9/10
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> Seems like a lot of trouble, no offense. I got rid of mine by simply
> strewing boric acid in all likely places INCLUDING under shelf paper
> and drawer liners. Around baseboards and entrances, of course.

Andy comments:

When I just dusted it, it left a powder that tenants in the house
tended to vacuum up in their efforts to "clean" the place.

When I used the vacuum cleaner on "blow" , it tended to coat
every damn thing in the place, cling to walls and filter into
crevices, and didn't leave little piles to attract attention.....

Same thing with dissolving in water and spraying....

As far as Red's idea of mixing it with stuff that roaches like
so they will eat it, .... I'm sure that works , also. And the
smell would attract roaches from other planets to come and
feed also. Maybe that's a good idea. I'm sure it would attract
my dogs, who would lick the stuff up and clean it for me.
Probly wouldn't hurt them, but they don't seem to have
any interest in plain old Boric acid..... I've tasted it and
can't blame them.....

Actually, maybe I could smear some on their private parts
so they wouldn't lick themselves so much when guests
come by...... just thinking out loud..

Andy in Eureka, Texas

Andy

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Sep 9, 2010, 9:19:13 AM9/9/10
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Andy comments:

I live in the country and it isn't uncommon for a mouse to
take up residence in the engine compartment of a vehicle.
Eventually they may work their way into the air conditioning
system and, when the fan is run, become dead. Then they
start to stink. Then the car starts to stink......

I have had that happen several times , with various
vehicles. The only solution was to remove the fan and
clear out the carcass.

This is much stronger, and much more POTENT than
a dead mouse in a wall.... When you run the heater
in the winter time, you have to roll down the windows.....

Andy in Eureka, Texas

PS The solution, for those who live in the country, is to
find a place in the engine compartment to fasten some
mouse poison bait. There is a product I use that has
rectangular green blocks with a hole thru the center.
I stick a piece of wire thru the hole, and fasten it to
some bare spot in the engine compartment. I check it
every couple of weeks to see if it has been eaten on,
and replace it as necessary. I often find dead mice
in the middle of my driveway now..... :>)))))

jwpierce3

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May 29, 2016, 11:44:05 AM5/29/16
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replying to Don Klipstein, jwpierce3 wrote:
Bengal Roach Spray works fabulous on roaches and bedbugs.

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Jesterfink

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Jul 31, 2016, 11:14:05 PM7/31/16
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replying to Suzie-Q, Jesterfink wrote:
If you have rats and roaches. I would just clean your house.

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Nil

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On 31 Jul 2016, Jesterfink
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> replying to Suzie-Q, Jesterfink wrote:
> If you have rats and roaches. I would just clean your house.

Would you mind cleaning my house, too?
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P Wu

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Mar 9, 2023, 8:17:52 PM3/9/23
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Add one 5000 I.U. soft gel of vitamin D3 and this will kill rats/mice too.
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