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Enamel Paint For Cowboy Coffee Pot.
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DerbyDad03
Jun 2, 2016, 2:42:50 PM6/2/16
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I picked up this Cowboy Coffee Percolator on eBay.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s0IAAOSwuAVW07dm/s-l1600.jpg
There is some rust on the inside bottom from where the steel percolator
basket as apparently worn down the enamel coating. I've tried vinegar,
wet-dry sandpaper, etc. but the rust is being very stubborn. I don't
want to go at it too hard for fear of removing even more enamel.
A little rust in my coffee isn't going to hurt me, correct? This is
not going to be an everyday pot, it's just for weekend camping trips
several times a year. From what I read about using slightly rusted
bake-ware, rust can harbor bacteria in the "crevices", but if it can
be washed prior to use, that should not be an issue. (I'm not talking
about scaling rust in the pot, just some surface rust.)
I found some some food-safe enamel paint, but it's temperature range
only goes to 200°.
http://www.piwine.com/gondola-enamel-black-500cc.html
Specs emailed from their customer service department:
-20° F if surface is not flexible and up to 200° F.
Even though the ideal water temp for coffee is between 195° and 200°,
that is very hard to control in a percolator. Food safe or not, I don't
want melted paint in my coffee.
Just looking for some ideas, other than "Throw the pot way" or "Let
SWMBO use it as a planter." ;-)
A little bit of coffee flavored rust won't hurt me, right?
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s0IAAOSwuAVW07dm/s-l1600.jpg
There is some rust on the inside bottom from where the steel percolator
basket as apparently worn down the enamel coating. I've tried vinegar,
wet-dry sandpaper, etc. but the rust is being very stubborn. I don't
want to go at it too hard for fear of removing even more enamel.
A little rust in my coffee isn't going to hurt me, correct? This is
not going to be an everyday pot, it's just for weekend camping trips
several times a year. From what I read about using slightly rusted
bake-ware, rust can harbor bacteria in the "crevices", but if it can
be washed prior to use, that should not be an issue. (I'm not talking
about scaling rust in the pot, just some surface rust.)
I found some some food-safe enamel paint, but it's temperature range
only goes to 200°.
http://www.piwine.com/gondola-enamel-black-500cc.html
Specs emailed from their customer service department:
-20° F if surface is not flexible and up to 200° F.
Even though the ideal water temp for coffee is between 195° and 200°,
that is very hard to control in a percolator. Food safe or not, I don't
want melted paint in my coffee.
Just looking for some ideas, other than "Throw the pot way" or "Let
SWMBO use it as a planter." ;-)
A little bit of coffee flavored rust won't hurt me, right?
bob_villain
Jun 2, 2016, 3:03:30 PM6/2/16
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On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 1:42:50 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Just looking for some ideas, other than "Throw the pot way" or "Let
> SWMBO use it as a planter." ;-)
...you included the best advice possible! Rust will raise and crack the rest of the glaze.
> Just looking for some ideas, other than "Throw the pot way" or "Let
> SWMBO use it as a planter." ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/hyk5pvx
dadiOH
Jun 2, 2016, 4:20:45 PM6/2/16
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You do realize, don't you, that what is on your pot isn't paint, it is
enamel; i.e., fused glass aka porcelain
The rust in your pot is either from the basket or the enamel has been
breached and the steel under it is rusting. If the later, it will continue
despite anything you can realistically do and eventually the porcelain will
begin to flake off..
DerbyDad03
Jun 2, 2016, 4:25:35 PM6/2/16
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was only because I was looking for a food-safe, hard finish that might be
able to withstand the rugged environment at the bottom of a percolator.
I am open to other suggestions.
>
> The rust in your pot is either from the basket or the enamel has been
> breached and the steel under it is rusting. If the later, it will continue
> despite anything you can realistically do and eventually the porcelain will
> begin to flake off..
cl...@snyder.on.ca
Jun 2, 2016, 4:37:38 PM6/2/16
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production. And it's "cofee colored" as well.
If you are thinking that you will be able to re-enamel your pot or
cooker then simply it isn’t possible - or at leasat generally not
feasible. The application of vitreous enamel requires specialist
equipment and must be fused at a temperature above 750 degrees
Centigrade. (1382F) Normal ‘industrial’ size industrial enamelling is
thus outside the scope of home application. However, if you wish to
try your hand at some DIY enamelling for copper jewellery there are
some very simple kits available from craft shops
If you can get your hands on a bit of jewelers enamel and flux you
could TRY heating the pot to 1380F in a kiln to re-fuse the ceramic.
The big problem is all of the glaze would possibly melt at the same
time and flow off. If you could get an enamel that fuses at 1350 or
1370 you MIGHT getb away with it (or it might crack as it solidifies)
dadiOH
Jun 2, 2016, 7:27:04 PM6/2/16
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you put on it. Other than porcelain, the only things I can think of that
might give you a shot at recoating are aluminum and zinc (OK, I can think of
others but you wouldn;t want lead and low temp metals like babbit wouldn't
do you any good. Both will melt at temperatures easily attainable on a gas
stove or via propane torch, I have no idea how well they would bond with the
existing enamel.
Maybe glass? Chip away the enamel in the bad spot so you can remove the
rust, spot heat the area and a piece of glass rod, smear the softened glass
around, Wouldn't be neat.
Really, more trouble than it is worth.
Dean Hoffman
Jun 2, 2016, 9:46:58 PM6/2/16
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On Thu, 02 Jun 2016 13:42:45 -0500, DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net>
wrote:
Would something like this be of any use?
http://stovepaint.com/Products/AT/ViewType/PTID/1
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DerbyDad03
Jun 2, 2016, 11:45:55 PM6/2/16
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Fred McKenzie
Jun 3, 2016, 2:25:28 PM6/3/16
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In article <f112adf2-a6ed-41c1...@googlegroups.com>,
You are trying to solve the wrong problem, and sanding the inside is not
helping. It is highly unlikely that the porcelain has cracked on the
inside, especially if there is no visible damage on the outside.
The rusty coloring you see is coming from the bottom of the steel
insert. If it bothers you, you may be able to remove it with something
like "CLR". But it will just come back over time. Personally, I would
ignore it.
What if you found another similar pot with aluminum inserts that would
fit yours? Take measurements and go look in thrift shops for aluminum
pots!
Fred
DerbyDad03 <teama...@eznet.net> wrote:
> I picked up this Cowboy Coffee Percolator on eBay.
>
> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s0IAAOSwuAVW07dm/s-l1600.jpg
>
> There is some rust on the inside bottom from where the steel percolator
> basket as apparently worn down the enamel coating. I've tried vinegar,
> wet-dry sandpaper, etc. but the rust is being very stubborn. I don't
> want to go at it too hard for fear of removing even more enamel.
Derby-
> I picked up this Cowboy Coffee Percolator on eBay.
>
> http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/s0IAAOSwuAVW07dm/s-l1600.jpg
>
> There is some rust on the inside bottom from where the steel percolator
> basket as apparently worn down the enamel coating. I've tried vinegar,
> wet-dry sandpaper, etc. but the rust is being very stubborn. I don't
> want to go at it too hard for fear of removing even more enamel.
You are trying to solve the wrong problem, and sanding the inside is not
helping. It is highly unlikely that the porcelain has cracked on the
inside, especially if there is no visible damage on the outside.
The rusty coloring you see is coming from the bottom of the steel
insert. If it bothers you, you may be able to remove it with something
like "CLR". But it will just come back over time. Personally, I would
ignore it.
What if you found another similar pot with aluminum inserts that would
fit yours? Take measurements and go look in thrift shops for aluminum
pots!
Fred
Applexie
Jul 28, 2017, 8:14:11 AM7/28/17
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replying to clare, Applexie wrote:
IF it is pure IRON, which is doubtful! a heavymetal cocktail is highly likely.
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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/enamel-paint-for-cowboy-coffee-pot-891849-.htm
IF it is pure IRON, which is doubtful! a heavymetal cocktail is highly likely.
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for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/enamel-paint-for-cowboy-coffee-pot-891849-.htm
Applexie
Jul 28, 2017, 8:14:11 AM7/28/17
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replying to DerbyDad03, Applexie wrote:
melted paint in your coffee? → I thought we're talking about enamel here??
bacteria in your coffee? → but you're boiling the water in that pot! right?
I don't see how THAT could pose a problem?
you could rub some oil on the iron, bake it in(season), boil water in it
twice, throw the water out, and THEN: test your coffeepot =) .
The point is: will it taste of iron or not? - the rust mainly forms if using
dishsoap! Don't ever use dishsoap or dishwasher! Just rinse w/water. I mean
you BOIL water in that pot, so ... - you know.
The one real problem with exposed iron is: if it's a cheaply made pot, they've
used scrap metal, which isn't food-safe for could contain heavymetals ( i.e.
mercury) which could be washed into your boiling water.
Do a temp.test with your enamel kit: apply some on some tin or so, and stand
it either in the oven or in a pan w/boiling water. Then you'll see what
happens – ;))) whether it melts ... . As you know (I'm sure you DO!) water
will boil at C°100. The enamel will get only minimally hotter than that ( IF
at all).
melted paint in your coffee? → I thought we're talking about enamel here??
bacteria in your coffee? → but you're boiling the water in that pot! right?
I don't see how THAT could pose a problem?
you could rub some oil on the iron, bake it in(season), boil water in it
twice, throw the water out, and THEN: test your coffeepot =) .
The point is: will it taste of iron or not? - the rust mainly forms if using
dishsoap! Don't ever use dishsoap or dishwasher! Just rinse w/water. I mean
you BOIL water in that pot, so ... - you know.
The one real problem with exposed iron is: if it's a cheaply made pot, they've
used scrap metal, which isn't food-safe for could contain heavymetals ( i.e.
mercury) which could be washed into your boiling water.
Do a temp.test with your enamel kit: apply some on some tin or so, and stand
it either in the oven or in a pan w/boiling water. Then you'll see what
happens – ;))) whether it melts ... . As you know (I'm sure you DO!) water
will boil at C°100. The enamel will get only minimally hotter than that ( IF
at all).
DerbyDad03
Jul 28, 2017, 10:28:54 PM7/28/17
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