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Lamp Socket Fixture: Which Screw is Hot Wire?

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Greg King

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Feb 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/10/96
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I have a polarized outlet and am trying to install a swag lamp
kit. I know that the narrower outlet opening is the hot wire
but don't know if the gold/copper colored screw or the silver
colored screw on the lamp socket should connect to the
hot wire.

Does anyone remember the convention? By convention either
the gold/copper screw is hot or the silver screw is hot but I can't
remember the convention and didn't find the question answered
in the FAQ.

Many thanks in advance,

Greg

greg...@gnn.com


Ernest Hahn

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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greg
The gold screw is for the hot wire and the silver for the neutral
line.

dick


Roger G. Trzebiatowski

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Feb 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/11/96
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On Sat, 10 Feb 1996 23:43:55 GMT, ki...@reston.ans.net (Greg King)
wrote:

>
>I have a polarized outlet and am trying to install a swag lamp
>kit. I know that the narrower outlet opening is the hot wire
>but don't know if the gold/copper colored screw or the silver
>colored screw on the lamp socket should connect to the
>hot wire.
>
>Does anyone remember the convention? By convention either
>the gold/copper screw is hot or the silver screw is hot but I can't
>remember the convention and didn't find the question answered
>in the FAQ.

Gold, Go for the Gold!!!
If you follow the circuit in the socket the Gold should be connected
to the center lead on a conventional single element lamp socket.

>
>Many thanks in advance,
>
>Greg
>
>greg...@gnn.com
>

Roger G. Trzebiatowski
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Charles Mulligan

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Feb 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/12/96
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Greg-
An old electrician friend made me memorize "black burns brass".
He ment that in 110V 1Phase AC the neutral should be the white and the
hot shuld be the brass and, therefore, the hot (black) should be
connected (burn) the brass screw. This applies to outlets, etc. Note;
that's why both screws on a single pole switch are brass as they should
be connectoed on the hot (black) leg.
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George Jefferson

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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: An old electrician friend made me memorize "black burns brass".
:He ment that in 110V 1Phase AC the neutral should be the white and the
:hot shuld be the brass and, therefore, the hot (black) should be
:connected (burn) the brass screw. This applies to outlets, etc.

learn something new every day :-) There's no particular
reason for the hot screw to be brass is there? - ie. its
just a color-coding..right (?)

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Sam Goldwasser

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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In article <1996Feb13....@combdyn.com> lawr...@combdyn.com (Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) writes:

> The lamp socket I'm looking at has both screws silver. This is because
> the switch should go on the hot side. So the fixture won't be hot when
> its off.

But guess what: when are you likely to change a bulb? - when it is burnt
out and you may not know whether the switch is on or off!

--- sam

Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen

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Feb 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/13/96
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Charles....@apk.wariat.org (Charles Mulligan) writes:

>Greg-


> An old electrician friend made me memorize "black burns brass".
>He ment that in 110V 1Phase AC the neutral should be the white and the
>hot shuld be the brass and, therefore, the hot (black) should be

>connected (burn) the brass screw. This applies to outlets, etc. Note;
>that's why both screws on a single pole switch are brass as they should
>be connectoed on the hot (black) leg.

The lamp socket I'm looking at has both screws silver. This is because


the switch should go on the hot side. So the fixture won't be hot when
its off.

IE:

|LIGHT|
Neutral -------------------- -------------------
|SWITCH|
Hot --------------------------------------------


I guess a pull chain lamp socket will have one brass and one silver screw,
but its the side that goes to the switch that will be the brass one.

If I recall, if you wire a socket hot, you make the base contact the hot.
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The Big Guy

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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The gold/brass screw is for the hot side.

The silver/alum screw is for the neutral. Similar to black and white.

In article <4fjanb$d...@news-e2a.gnn.com>, ki...@reston.ans.net says...


>
>
>I have a polarized outlet and am trying to install a swag lamp
>kit. I know that the narrower outlet opening is the hot wire
>but don't know if the gold/copper colored screw or the silver
>colored screw on the lamp socket should connect to the
>hot wire.
>
>Does anyone remember the convention? By convention either
>the gold/copper screw is hot or the silver screw is hot but I can't
>remember the convention and didn't find the question answered
>in the FAQ.
>

Joseph Kral

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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In article <1996Feb13....@combdyn.com>,
Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen <lawr...@combdyn.com> wrote:
>Charles....@apk.wariat.org (Charles Mulligan) writes:
>
etc.etc,

>
>If I recall, if you wire a socket hot, you make the base contact the hot.
>--

The "shell" should be neutral so that as you screw a bulb in or out there
is no exposed metal that is "hot".


Lee Havemann

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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The Big Guy (t...@somewhere.com) wrote:
: The gold/brass screw is for the hot side.

: >

Just remember the mnemonic:

"Black to Brass, White to Bright and Green to Ground"

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Disclaimer: I am not paid to speak for my company.

Sam Goldwasser

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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In article <4fr54u$j...@netnews.upenn.edu> geo...@mech.seas.upenn.edu ( George Jefferson ) writes:

> learn something new every day :-) There's no particular
> reason for the hot screw to be brass is there? - ie. its
> just a color-coding..right (?)

As far as the color coding goes, yes, just a convention.

Rational for the wiring: you are more likely to accidentally touch the shell
of the socket when changing a light bulb and thus this is supposed to be
Neutral rather than Hot.

--- sam

Mac.New...@epix.net

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Feb 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/14/96
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In article <1996Feb13....@combdyn.com>, lawr...@combdyn.com

(Lawrence *The Dreamer* Chen) wrote:

> Charles....@apk.wariat.org (Charles Mulligan) writes:
[ snip]

> The lamp socket I'm looking at has both screws silver. This is because
> the switch should go on the hot side. So the fixture won't be hot when
> its off.

[snip]


> If I recall, if you wire a socket hot, you make the base contact the hot.
> --

> SNAIL: Lawrence Chen, P.Eng. VE6LKC/VE6PAQ


They make/sell a nice little gismo called a "tic" [ here] it
looks like a pocket screwdriver but if you touch it to a wire and the wire
is hot the handle of the tick lights ;-) Very handy when connecting
things 8-)
Personally I wouldn't/wont do any wiring without mine. Fred

Franklin Gingrich

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Feb 21, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/21/96
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>
>learn something new every day :-) There's no particular
>reason for the hot screw to be brass is there? - ie. its
>just a color-coding..right (?)
>
>george
>geo...@mech.seas.upenn.edu
>
Right, just color coding.

Frank

baeme...@gmail.com

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Feb 17, 2016, 12:20:11 PM2/17/16
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Good way to put it! They should pay you to speak for them.
Mr. Lee haveMann
Thanks for your help. Muck easier for a woman to understand.

Gordon Shumway

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Feb 17, 2016, 1:11:41 PM2/17/16
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WTF?!

Colonel Edmund J. Burke

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Feb 17, 2016, 1:36:30 PM2/17/16
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None are hot until one applies the juice, sailor.

Oren

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Feb 17, 2016, 6:46:46 PM2/17/16
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C'mon. You know. Does the hot wire go on the bronze or silver colored
screw and which side has the ribbed coded wire on the cord on the
silver screw?

<chuckle>

dtro...@gmail.com

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Feb 13, 2017, 12:45:17 PM2/13/17
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ok, well you are sooo smart, why aren't you working for GE Captain? Piss off troll

bgr...@gmail.com

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Aug 29, 2017, 10:26:07 AM8/29/17
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Hi can a brass screw be replaced with a stainless on the switch

gfre...@aol.com

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Aug 29, 2017, 12:49:04 PM8/29/17
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2017 07:26:01 -0700 (PDT), bgr...@gmail.com wrote:

>Hi can a brass screw be replaced with a stainless on the switch

Why would you want to?

Oren

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Aug 29, 2017, 1:33:09 PM8/29/17
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Nothing else better to do? Oh wait. To overcome boredom!

Taxed and Spent

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Aug 29, 2017, 1:34:10 PM8/29/17
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Brass screws are being sent to Houston to help out.

Oren

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Aug 29, 2017, 2:05:13 PM8/29/17
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I can see why. Some folks can't even find their switches, sockets or
receptacles. They have cornered the market for loose screws.

trader_4

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Aug 29, 2017, 2:51:35 PM8/29/17
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On Tuesday, August 29, 2017 at 10:26:07 AM UTC-4, bgr...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi can a brass screw be replaced with a stainless on the switch

If it's otherwise the correct screw, sure. Where did the original go?
They usually are made in such a way that while you can loosen them
up until they are way out, you can't remove them, they only go so far,
unless you force them.

rbowman

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Aug 29, 2017, 10:47:35 PM8/29/17
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They're already screwed. Don't need no more.
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