How to drag large garbage can?
Walter E.
they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
landscape debris.
I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
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Walter
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k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
>Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
>they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
>plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
>length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
>landscape debris.
We have one of those. It's heavier going down the driveway than up. ;-)
>I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
>up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
>at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
You're 80YO and fill three cans a week? People typically use less as they get
older (fewer in the house, smaller meals, less junk,...).
>The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
>hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
>sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
>Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
Pay a neighbor kid $5 a week?
The Daring Dufas
If I was your neighbor, you could call me to help. I would hope
you had a neighbor who wouldn't mind coming over to grab your can.
<sorry, I couldn't help it> 8-)
TDD
Elmo
> It's heavier going down the driveway than up. ;-)
What I do is open my driver side window and grab a hold of the handle and
drag the garbage can behind me just a few inches away from the car.
Surprisingly, it doesn't scrape against the car and doesn't hurt the arm
(too much). Try it once with the empty can on the way back up the hill and
let us know how it works.
Also some people (who have more money than I do) use a garden tractor with
a yard trailer hitched behind with the garbage cans piled in the trailer.
Also works from a pickup or from an automobile hitch but this might be more
work than you were asking for.
Good luck ... if you find out a better answer, let me know.
Walter E.
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> "Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote in
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> Call the hauler and request them to pick up at your house. That's the way
> people do it around here, anyways. You pay extra, but it saves you a lot
> of aggravation.
Walter E.
of those, too. It's gardening debris from a one acre lot.
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Walter E.
little trick with a 200 lb garbage can??
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GeorgeD
trash cans to the curb. You might call the town and explain that it
is not feasible for you to bring the cans to the curb. I suspect (in
light of all the disability laws) that they will have someone fetch them
for you.
Regards,
HeyBub
> Well, most of the stuff is not empty pizza wrappers, although we have
> a lot of those, too. It's gardening debris from a one acre lot.
>
Heh!
We have those cans and the city won't pick them up if they contain "yard
waste;" There's a separate protocol for that.
I recommend piling up the clippings, etc., in the backyard and burning them.
Alternatively, put your yard waste in easier-to-handle plastic bags, put an
empty can on the curb, and discover some clever way to get the bags to the
can (in the back of your pickup, using a wheelbarrow, attaching the bags to
the harness of a (large) dog...
Can you rig up some sort of pulley system, like tenement clothes-lines?
nor...@earthlink.net
We have the monster cans with wheels, but they are in the lot and the
city rolls them out to the truck. I would not consider filling a
standard garb. can, much less the monster cans, and trying to maneuver
it by myself. The solution might be to have an enclosure at the top of
the hill for the cans and take smaller batches of trash to the cans there.
I'm not 80, but I can almost see it from here. No 80 y/o has any
business trudging up a hill with a load like you describe...gotta plan
for your own safety, above all else. A garden cart will take plenty in
one batch up the hill to empty there. Hauling a heavy can with an arm
out the window of your car is likely to get you a broken arm, or worse.
LSMFT
the trailer. On garbage day, haul the trailer up to the road with your
garden tractor and unhitch it there. If needed, get a $20 trailer jack
with a wheel so you can hook up easy.
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LSMFT
If I wasn't me I wouldn't like me either..........
Chuck
I had a similar problem and I decided to start a mulch pile in a remote
corner of my property. Mostly grass clippings and small bush cuttings.
That took care of most of the heavy stuff. A neighbor complained about
it to the code enforcement people. They came out and said I had a great
idea and they started to encourage all rural folks to do the same.
Caesar Romano
>The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
>hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
>sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
>Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
I had a similar problem that I solved by leaving the trash can by the
road, chained to a tree. I bring the trash (in plastic bags) to the
can by placing it in the trunk of my car trunk and bring the bag to
the can when I go to pick up the mail. On trash pick-up day I unchain
the can and re-chain it after the pickup.
Now I never have to deal with more than the weigh of a single plastic
trash bag.
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Work is the curse of the drinking class.
Bill Gill
> The monster garbage trucks are too huge and heavy for my driveway.
>
and check to see if you can get it.
Bill
h
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> I'm not 80, but I can almost see it from here. No 80 y/o has any business
> trudging up a hill with a load like you describe
Not true! Taking things "easy" is how you become decrepit. My 86 year old
mother regularly hikes (even with recent foot surgery), works out every day,
and does all her own yard work. Dragging the cans to the curb every week is
a given. And she's only 110 lbs at 5 ft. Man up already.
h
"Caesar Romano" <Sp...@uce.gov> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 3 May 2010 20:22:05 -0700, "Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote
> I had a similar problem that I solved by leaving the trash can by the
> road, chained to a tree. I bring the trash (in plastic bags) to the
> can by placing it in the trunk of my car trunk and bring the bag to
> the can when I go to pick up the mail. On trash pick-up day I unchain
> the can and re-chain it after the pickup.
I'm sure your neighbors love that. In my town, you'd be in violation of
local laws.
Tony
> Well, most of the stuff is not empty pizza wrappers, although we have a
> lot of those, too. It's gardening debris from a one acre lot.
If you like gardening you should be making compost out of that stuff.
Tony
Good job! A lot of places won't take grass clippings and other garden
waste. Although I like the compost idea, I'm sort of stuck wondering if
that compost stuff wouldn't help the landfill compost most of the paper
type waste?
notbob
>>>> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
Put a sign on it:
Do not remove under penalty of law.
nb
Steve B
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You qualify for some type of assistance on and above that of a regular
citizen. What if you were in a wheelchair?
Call the hauler, and explain the situation, and you are requesting special
service. If that doesn't work, , and ask to speak to the (ADA American's
with Disability Act) compliance officer. If they are a big outfit, they
will have one. If they are not, they will not want to be messing with the
feds, and you will probably get their attention. BE NICE! Explain to them
that you just can't lug these things down to the pickup point, THAT YOU ARE
REQUESTING A REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION UNDER THE ADA LAW. Also, casually
mention that you'd hate it if you were to have an accident while trying to
use THEIR equipment. I bet they will do one of two things. One, they will
send a special truck to pick up your trash, or they will have the guys come
up the hill and schlep the garbage down. If they do have the guys do the
extra work, you might have an extra charge, but I'd investigate that, too.
And if they did do the extra work to come all the way up, go out there when
it's hot and give them a couple of cold sodas or Gatorades or donuts and
coffee when it's cold. If you get the hearts of the guys on the truck, they
will go the extra mile for you. The ones I had at my houses would have
taken away a dead body for a $5 tip and a couple of cold Gatorades.
Try reason and niceness first before you pullout the ADA card. No need to
wave the feds in their face if you can just get what you want with a little
kindness.
As I have written in my blog under "Stuff" category, get every aid you can
because of your age and limitations. You earned them and you paid for them
by paying taxes for a very long time.
Steve
visit my blog at http://cabgbypasssurgery.com watch for the book
A fool shows his annoyance at once, but a prudent man overlooks an insult.
Steve B
I am 62. I have two of those large puppies because we only get garbage
pickup once a week. The pickup point is at least 1/2 mile away from my
house. I have an ATV. For a long time, I would tie one to the back, and
roll it down, tipped slightly. Sometimes, I had two of them on there.
Sometimes they spilled. But the route was fairly flat with only a couple of
steep dips. I never could get the hang of just pulling it with my hand, as
I have had two shoulder surgeries and heart surgery.
I did find a little trailer at a yard sale that will carry the two of them,
and up to five empty ones. When they are all empty, I bring back mine and
the neighbor's. If he's first to get there when they're empty, he brings
mine.
That would not help you. Get some help before you hurt yourself. I know
you're tough, but it's time to stand back and watch the young guys do it.
Steve
Steve B
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OMIGAWD, THERE ARE REASONABLE INTELLIGENT PEOPLE HERE WHO CAN READ! Kudos,
George.
Steve
Steve B
I love walking bags of trash down to the can. Particularly if it is
raining, snowing, sleeting, windy, and my favorite ....... ICY! Makes me
feel more like a man.
Steve
Bob F
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square.
> Full, they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them
> with heavy ice plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly
> steep driveway (50' in length). We have three of these black cans for
> household garbage and landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these
> monster cans up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have
> tried tying them (one at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside
> my trunk.
> the hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip
> over sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same
> problem.
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
At the very least, you should be able to get them to supply you with smaller,
more manageable containers. I'd be surprised that they wouldn't offer to get the
containers for you in this case, however.
A compost pile can make good stuff out of all that organic waste. I'd never give
it all away.
Caesar Romano
wrote Re Re: How to drag large garbage can?:
I live in a rural area like the OP. The nearest neighbor is 1/4 mile
away. There are no such laws here, and the can is not visible from
the road.
LSMFT
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square.
> Full, they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with
> heavy ice plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep
> driveway (50' in length). We have three of these black cans for
> household garbage and landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
> cans up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying
> them (one at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
>
>
Get an incinerator or outdoor wood stove. Burn everything.
Take your cans and bottles back to the store and throw them in THEIR
dumpster.
nor...@earthlink.net
a big difference between being active and taking chances. 80 y/o bones
break easily, and don't heal as easily. I've become much more aware of
fall hazards around the house, and have made my home safer. I do a lot
of physical work and hope always to be able to do so.
Higgs Boson
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
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> Walterwww.rationality.net
Walter, DON'T DON'T DON'T t!!!! I have read the entire thread, and
beg you to heed the advice re: contacting the municipality or
whomever,
and requesting aid in light of your age and the steep driveway.
Explore all levels of government, and if nothing works, contact a
senior center
in your nearest municipality and explain your predicament. I bet they
will be able to help you.
If all else fails, do budget for a few bucks to a youngster (or even
an unemployed person). IT'S NOT WORTH THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES!
Last summer, I was pushing -- on the flats --my wheeled recycling
cart, which the transient apt. dwellers across the alley had filled
with 40 lbs. of their moving-out paper discards. (The alley, BTW),has
plenty of oversize recycling carts!! When I raised hell with the
City, they finally provided this building with the recycling carts
they should have had all along -- this was after decades of them
dumping in my cans.)
It got away from me and I ended up head-first inside the can, with a
giant gash and a broken wrist. You can imagine how long it took for
the wrist to heal (I am no spring chicken either!). It is NOT WORTH
IT for you to risk something similar, or heaven forbid, a broken
hip. !!!
Pls reassure me & group that you are taking action -- in keeping with
your URL "Rationality.net" <g>
Hypatia
h
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I disagree. Her wheelbarrow is nearly as large as she is, yet she fills it
full up with dirt/gravel/whatever, and hauls it all over the yard. Could
easily be 200lbs. Again, if you don't use it, you lose it. Weight resistance
builds bone strength/density. She fell on the ice last year and not only did
she not break anything, she didn't even bruise. Her solution to slipping on
the ice wasn't to get someone to do her shoveling for her, she bought
crampons to slip on over her boots. She has someone plow the driveway, but
she like to shovel the front and back walkways - she says it "keeps her
young".
h
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On May 3, 8:22 pm, "Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote:
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50'
> in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
> cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them
> (one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
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> Walterwww.rationality.net
.>>Walter, DON'T DON'T DON'T t!!!! I have read the entire thread, and
>>beg you to heed the advice re: contacting the municipality or
>>whomever,
<Snip whinging>
Oh my freaking doG! Just man up, start exercising/working out/whatever, and
suck it up. 80 isn't that old. If you have health issues it's most likely
because you don't do anything. Get off the couch now, while you still can.
There's no reason not to be completely active and functional until your very
last day. Sheesh!
nor...@earthlink.net
taking chances. As active as many elderly are, a broken hip can mean
permanent disability or death. As a retired nurse, I have seen it many,
many times. Just keeping mental track, I figured over the years that
the most common cause of falls for elderly that resulted in broken hips
was...hurrying to the restroom.
My mom gave herself a present for her 80th and hired someone to clean
her eavestroughs for her. They did not do a satisfactory job, so she
resumed climbing on a ladder and doing it herself (single story home).
My husband is exceedingly strong, but when he isn't around and I want to
do something that requires moving something heavy, I engineer it.
Fitness does not equal foolishness...if the trip is a long one, there is
no reason to risk a fall on ice or a back injury toting a heavy load.
Taking more, smaller loads increases exercise and reduces chance of
strain. As others have suggested, using vegetative waste for mulch is
also a good idea.
h
<nor...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> As I said before, there is a big difference between healthy exercise and
> taking chances. As active as many elderly are, a broken hip can mean
> permanent disability or death. As a retired nurse, I have seen it many,
> many times.
Bottom line, when you stop doing things for yourself, just dig a hole and
lie down, since you're already dead. Meaning, that if you are not exercising
VIGOROUSLY for at LEAST 60 MINUTES EVERY day, you aren't doing anything and
should just give it up. Exercising (weight resistance training) actually
builds up bones and guards against breaks, even in advanced old age, as any
nurse should know. You can get the exercise moving your trash, your dirt,
cleaning your house, your gutters, dancing, taking yoga or boxing classes,
or going to the gym. Work it out on your own, but most people will die much
sooner than they should because they never get off their asses. Most people,
Americans in particular, are lazy.
nor...@earthlink.net
Your English comprehension isn't too good...who suggested that anyone
stop being active?
h
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Umm, you said to weenie-out and let other people do things for you. SAME
THING! Reading comprehension not your long suit, huh? PLONK!
aemeijers
> Well, most of the stuff is not empty pizza wrappers, although we have a
> lot of those, too. It's gardening debris from a one acre lot.
>
No compost pile? Yard and garden waste shouldn't be going to the
landfill anyway.
Build an enclosure for the cans up by the road, and take it up one
five-gallon bucket at a time, on a hand-truck if needed. May take a
little relandscaping to make it look right, but if you are still keeping
a garden that big, shouldn't be anything you can't handle.
--
aem sends...
Steve B
"h" <tmc...@searchmachine.com> wrote in message
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I'm sorry, sir. I was either drunk, unconscious, or absent the day you
showed your medical credentials to the group. Could you please provide them
again?
Steve B
Boy, I guess you showed HIM!
h
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PLONK!
h
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Umm, I'm FEMALE, you moron. PLONK!
tmclone
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> > <norm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> As I said before, there is a big difference between healthy exercise and
> >> taking chances. As active as many elderly are, a broken hip can mean
> >> permanent disability or death. As a retired nurse, I have seen it many,
> >> many times.
>
> > Bottom line, when you stop doing things for yourself, just dig a hole and
> > lie down, since you're already dead. Meaning, that if you are not
> > exercising VIGOROUSLY for at LEAST 60 MINUTES EVERY day, you aren't doing
> > anything and should just give it up. Exercising (weight resistance
> > training) actually builds up bones and guards against breaks, even in
> > advanced old age, as any nurse should know. You can get the exercise
> > moving your trash, your dirt, cleaning your house, your gutters, dancing,
> > taking yoga or boxing classes, or going to the gym. Work it out on your
> > own, but most people will die much sooner than they should because they
> > never get off their asses. Most people, Americans in particular, are lazy.
>
> I'm sorry, sir. I was either drunk, unconscious, or absent the day you
> showed your medical credentials to the group. Could you please provide them
> again?
>
> Steve
>
>
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MORON! I'm female, and the day I need to EVER visit a doctor is the
day I will kill myself. So-called medical "professionals" are exactly
who will kill you, not keep you alive. If you "need" to visit a
doctor, ever, you might as well just lie down and die. Go a pair and
take care of your own health and maybe you will live well into your
90s like all of us in my family. PLONK!
Metspitzer
>Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
>they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
>plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
>length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
>landscape debris.
>
>I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
>up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
>at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
>The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
>hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
>sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
>Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
How about leaving the cans near the road and taking small amounts out
in your trunk?
Oren
<pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>medical credentials
When the Physician's Assistant or a Nurse asked me "what is wrong with
him?" My pat answer was, "I don't know I'm not a doctor!"
Took a guy to the local "outside" hospital once with six (6) stab
wounds in his chest and one gurgling lung (red foam). The hospital
nurse, then asked me "what is wrong with him?".
Being tired of the same old question, I said to her: "He's running out
of air!"
Prof Wonmug
wrote:
This jerk has already PLONKED half a dozen people. Let's all trample
on her/his/its tender little feelings. If it PLONKS everyone, it'll
get no more posts and will have nothing to reply to. Maybe then it'll
go somewhere else.
Metspitzer
Well PLONK you too :)
The Daring Dufas
"h" must stand for "harlot". Perhaps a ginger with
that temper. *snicker*
TDD
Smitty Two
Man, that bitch plonks someone every damn day. Must be getting lonely by
now.
The Daring Dufas
A millennium later, an archaeologist digs up the computer believed
to have belonged to the fabled Plonkasaurus. It was an odd creature
of the times and had extreme difficulty communicating with other
beasts of that ancient era.
TDD
The Daring Dufas
I wonder if she PLONKS on the first date?
TDD
hal...@aol.com
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
> -
> Walterwww.rationality.net
If you have a tractor or rider mower attach cans to a cart, use
tractor to take cans up and down hill. leave cart at bottom of hill on
garbage day.
Prof Wonmug
wrote:
Thank you very much. You and 'h' should be very happy together.
Steve B
>
> "Steve B" <pittma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>
> Umm, I'm FEMALE, you moron. PLONK!
What are you talking about? New to usenet, huh? At least put enough of the
conversation to give us a slight hint. Or are we supposed to know?
Steve
Oren
<the-dari...@peckerhead.net> wrote:
> the computer believed
>to have belonged to the fabled Plonkasaurus
Wiping my eyes from laughter......
h
"The Daring Dufas" <the-dari...@peckerhead.net> wrote in message
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Your ridiculous "snicker* on nearly every post has earned you a PLONK!
*snicker*
The Daring Dufas
MOMMIEEEEEEE! The evil biotch PLONKED meeeeeee! Waaaa! Waaaa! Waaaa!
*snicker*
TDD
mm
<k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
>We have one of those. It's heavier going down the driveway than up. ;-)
But he lives at the bottom of his driveway.
nor...@earthlink.net
nor...@earthlink.net
I think it's time to call in the experts. Where's Walter?
keith
Does The Scooter Store install trailer hitches? ;-)
HeyBub
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129165718187185505.jpg
mkir...@rochester.rr.com
> The monster garbage trucks are too huge and heavy for my driveway.
Jeez, for an 80 year old you aren't too swift. 80 years of life
experience, wisdom, and knowledge. One would think you'd know better.
They're not going to drive the "monster" garbage truck down a 50'
driveway! Hell, the truck would pretty much fill the entire driveway!
It's over 30' long by itself.
The garbage man WALKS down the driveway, wheels the cans to the road,
and dumps them in the truck!
TimR
Reduce the weight of each trip. Leave your garbage bin empty all
week, roll it down the hill empty, carry the bags down one at a time.
They can be as small as you want, you're the one filling them.
More controversial, reduce the total weight of your garbage. This may
depend on what recycling is available in your area. I lived in a
location where the allowable garbage pickup was one kitchen sized bin
(1 foot square, 3 feet high) every two weeks, and if it contained
anything recyclable (paper, aluminum, etc.) then it could be rejected
or you could be fined. We recycled everything possible and had no
trouble fitting our garbage into the bin. This was from a family of
four. It can be done with little effort once it is a habit.
Higgs Boson
> On May 3, 8:22 pm, "Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> > they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> > plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
> > length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> > landscape debris.
>
> > I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
> > up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
> > at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> > The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> > hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> > sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
>
> > -
> > Walterwww.rationality.net
>
> Walter, DON'T DON'T DON'T t!!!! I have read the entire thread, and
> beg you to heed the advice re: contacting the municipality or
> whomever,
> and requesting aid in light of your age and the steep driveway.
> Explore all levels of government, and if nothing works, contact a
> senior center
> in your nearest municipality and explain your predicament. I bet they
> will be able to help you.
>
> If all else fails, do budget for a few bucks to a youngster (or even
> an unemployed person). IT'S NOT WORTH THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES!
>
> Last summer, I was pushing -- on the flats --my wheeled recycling
> cart, which the transient apt. dwellers across the alley had filled
> with 40 lbs. of their moving-out paper discards. (The alley, BTW),has
> plenty of oversize recycling carts!! When I raised hell with the
> City, they finally provided this building with the recycling carts
> they should have had all along -- this was after decades of them
> dumping in my cans.)
>
> It got away from me and I ended up head-first inside the can, with a
> giant gash and a broken wrist. You can imagine how long it took for
> the wrist to heal (I am no spring chicken either!). It is NOT WORTH
> IT for you to risk something similar, or heaven forbid, a broken
> hip. !!!
>
> Pls reassure me & group that you are taking action -- in keeping with
> your URL "Rationality.net" <g>
>
> Hypatia
WALTER, ARE YOU LISTENING?
I hope by now you have reached out to your local government,
municipal, county, whatever, for assistance,
as well as to the Senior Center, and/or to a house of worship, if you
belong to one (though somebody who
signs "rationality.net" may not be affiliated <g>
Somebody in this thread -- maybe more than one poster -- mentioned
slipping on the ice.
Here's "Dear Abby" for today:
"DEAR ABBY: Early this year, my mother went to the curb to collect the
empty trash bin and put it away for the week. As she wheeled it behind
her home, she slipped on the ice and BROKE HER HIP.C She lives alone
and was in the back of her property where NOBODY COULD SEE OR HEAR
HER.
Fortunately, she'd had the foresight to GRAB HER CELL PHONE before she
went outside. Because she was unable to stand up she could have frozen
to death. She called 911 and within minutes an ambulance arrived to
take her to the hospital.
Mom had surgery to repair the hip and is recovering, but it was a
close call. This is a reminder to your readers that if they live alone
-- or have parents who do -- to make sure to have a cell phone
available at all times. -- RELIEVED SON IN ELKHART, IND.
DEAR RELIEVED SON: I'm pleased to pass along your important message.
Your mother did, indeed, have a close call. It must have been her
guardian angel who handed her her cell phone as she left the house
that wintry day. Please tell her I said so and that I hope she's
better soon."
I don't go for that "guardian angel" crap; maybe the mother was just
being "rational".
Reason I'm posting this is to reinforce what seems to be a NG opinion
that you are taking big chances, mickey-mousing
your trash collection by the various means you have outlined.
Take your sword and cut the Gordian knot before it's too late!
Hypatia
Metspitzer
wrote:
I think you can get Monster Truck Scooters now.
Steve Barker
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square.
> Full, they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with
> heavy ice plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep
> driveway (50' in length). We have three of these black cans for
> household garbage and landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
> cans up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying
> them (one at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
>
>
Hire a boy to take it out for you.
--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Though I've certainly seen it, I'd never buy a house lower than street level.
Hauling garbage cans would be the least of my worries.
Steve Barker
I've seen dozens that lay like that. And many of them right in town.
aemeijers
Chuckle. Try living in a lake-front house on most man-made lakes. Hill
slump is a big problem, and you have to design the utility feeds and
foundations accordingly.
--
aem sends...
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
Sure, but it's something I'd run far away from long before I turned 80. In
fact, about 30 seconds after the agent drove us up (down?) to the house.
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Good point. I was thinking about doing just that in a few years. Maybe not.
aemeijers
> Steve Barker <ichase...@notgmail.com> wrote in
> news:iuKdncmx1LoNnn_W...@giganews.com:
Depends on how the lot was graded, and how much further downhill the lot
went past the house. Rainwater running into garage and basement can be
an expensive PITA. But if the house is in a bowl, the whole damn thing
can flood. If at all possible, you want the house to be the highest
point on the lot. But as I have learned from sad experience, having a
driveway that rises around 8 feet over a 60-foot run, can also be a
problem if you live in snow country. After losing one transmission, I
now have resigned myself to plowing before trying to get up the drive,
if I can't see the pavement through the snow. I suppose that is one of
the reasons this place sat empty for six months before I bought it at a
discount.
--
aem sends...
Roger Shoaf
"Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote in message
news:hro3t1$4oi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50'
in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them
(one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
Get a smaller cart and fill the bins at the curb. You have to make more
trips that way but it is a whole lot better than hurting yourself.
You also might get a trailer that you could pull with the garden tractor.
The trash company could probably deal with the cans on the trailer.
--
Roger Shoaf
About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.
keith
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> On Mon, 03 May 2010 22:52:06 -0500, "k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
> >>>> <k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:
>
> >>>>> We have one of those. It's heavier going down the driveway than
> >>>>> up. ;-)
> >>>> But he lives at the bottom of his driveway.
> >>> Though I've certainly seen it, I'd never buy a house lower than
> >>> street level. Hauling garbage cans would be the least of my worries.
> >> I've seen dozens that lay like that. And many of them right in town.
>
> > yuck, I'd never buy one.
>
> Depends on how the lot was graded, and how much further downhill the lot
> went past the house. Rainwater running into garage and basement can be
> an expensive PITA. But if the house is in a bowl, the whole damn thing
> can flood. If at all possible, you want the house to be the highest
> point on the lot. But as I have learned from sad experience, having a
> driveway that rises around 8 feet over a 60-foot run, can also be a
> problem if you live in snow country. After losing one transmission, I
> now have resigned myself to plowing before trying to get up the drive,
> if I can't see the pavement through the snow. I suppose that is one of
> the reasons this place sat empty for six months before I bought it at a
> discount.
When I lived in Vermont (classifies as "snow country" ;-), our
driveway was like that. No big problem at all. It sure beats a
driveway sloped the opposite direction. At least I could get home
(before removing the snow) without worrying about losing the garage
door. Snow melts, too.
How in the world did you lose a transmission?
Rudy
>>> level. Hauling garbage cans would be the least of my worries.
> yuck, I'd never buy one.
Especially in Nashville
tmclone
> On Tue, 04 May 2010 21:15:27 -0500, The Daring Dufas
>
> > the computer believed
> >to have belonged to the fabled Plonkasaurus
>
> Wiping my eyes from laughter......
You really need to get out more. PLONK!
aemeijers
realized FWD transmissions (esp mopar minvans) were not as solidly built
as RWD transmissions back in the old days, if there was only a couple
inches of snow, I would sometimes drive uphill through the snow. Made it
through about 1.5 winters before tranny told me that was a bad thing to
do. At that point, the value of the van with a good tranny was the same
as the cost to rebuild the tranny. I have a snowblower and a good leaf
blower now, so I seldom have to hand shovel very much. But I do have to
get up half an hour early on snowy days to clear drive, even for only a
couple inches, because if I drive out over it (which presumably does no
harm), I have 2 stripes of ice to contend with at the end of the day.
The best-remembered lessons are the expensive ones, etc. I'm sure an AWD
or 4wd baby SUV would have no trouble with this driveway, nor would an
old-style RWD with actual snow tires in rear (not 'all season') and a
few sandbags in trunk.
--
aem sends...
Oren
I'm just shattered.
You don't have a kill file for me?
Like I asked before, are you the same "h" as the poster "tmclone"?
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
Same. Makes the garage door harder to hit. ;-)
>Until I
>realized FWD transmissions (esp mopar minvans) were not as solidly built
>as RWD transmissions back in the old days, if there was only a couple
>inches of snow, I would sometimes drive uphill through the snow. Made it
>through about 1.5 winters before tranny told me that was a bad thing to
>do.
I had a couple of minivans, though they were standards. I also had a couple
of intrepids, no issues with snow. The trannies were junk (on all Chrysler
crap), but I still don't understand how a little snow got to them.
>At that point, the value of the van with a good tranny was the same
>as the cost to rebuild the tranny.
Yep, my '93 TSi got scrapped because of the tranny, too. The '96 Intrepid got
sold at auction before it got that far (we chickened out).
>I have a snowblower and a good leaf
>blower now, so I seldom have to hand shovel very much. But I do have to
>get up half an hour early on snowy days to clear drive, even for only a
>couple inches, because if I drive out over it (which presumably does no
>harm), I have 2 stripes of ice to contend with at the end of the day.
Yeah, I had a snow blower, too. If I got any ice on the driveway it tended to
last all Winter. I did usually have to shovel out the end of the driveway,
though. That stuff would be either as hard as a rock, or slush. Either would
plug up the snow blower.
>The best-remembered lessons are the expensive ones, etc. I'm sure an AWD
>or 4wd baby SUV would have no trouble with this driveway, nor would an
>old-style RWD with actual snow tires in rear (not 'all season') and a
>few sandbags in trunk.
I still don't know what was so tough on the tranny. Spinning wheels is
counterproductive.
The Daring Dufas
Researchers have always believed there existed more than one
specimen of the fabled Plonkasaurus. Ancient data storage
devices once used on the predecessor of The Universe Net or
Versenet as it is more commonly called today have given a
number of data diggers (electronic archaeologists) great
hope in finding out more about The Cult Of Plonk and those
who belonged to it. As for Versenet, the younglings call it
The Verz or simply Verz. I see younglings walking around
talking to themselves and I thought they were mentally ill
until I realized they had the new retina implant videophone. At
least when you see someone talking to their thumb, you knew
they were using their implanted thumbnail video interface. When
I was a youngling, I recall my great, great, great grandfather
telling me about oldtech called bluetooth that people once used
in conjunction with those really huge communicators called
cellphones. When my 3paw said bluetooth, I said "3pop, people
get any color tooth they want today, why could they only get a
blue tooth?" When 3paw explained that he saw people walking
around talking to themselves like they were crazy, I didn't know
then that I would have the same thing happen to me some day.
My 3paw was a cool old guy, he still wore things called eyeglasses.
My 3pop died at age 150 of TOF when Obama General Hospital
told us he didn't qualify for any more organ replacements or
regenerations. The last thing he said to us was "What a ride, what
a ride" It's amazing that when I was a youngling, people died at
such an early age. I still still think about my 3paw every day and
how much he taught me.
TDD
Gloria
I live in a rural area too and have a long driveway. I leave my can sitting
unobtrusively beside my driveway. On trash day, I only have to move the can
about 15 feet and it's at the street. After the collector's come, I move
the empty can back.
Gloria
"Walter E." <w...@example.com> wrote in message
news:hro3t1$4oi$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50'
> in length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
> cans up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying
> them (one at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
>
>
> --
> -
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
towabin
http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/How-to-drag-large-garbage-can-440259-.htm
towabin wrote:
Walter E. wrote:
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30"
> square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy
> ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway
> (50' in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster
> cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them
> (one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up
> the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
Walter , there is an easier way to move trash bins over long and steep
driveways, check it my website, it is a simple bracket to tow wheeled
bins.It is called TOW-A-BIN.
-------------------------------------
Don;t Drag It!Tow It!
Bob F
How old does a post have to be for you to realize it's too late to respond?
Smitty Two
"Bob F" <bobn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How old does a post have to be for you to realize it's too late to respond?
It's the hub disease.
J Burns
can prevent wandering by trying a rope to each end of the handle. The
distance between each end of the handle and the trunk hook should be
less than two feet. I'd cut my ropes four feet long to have plenty of
room for knots. (I like to wet the thumb and forefinger of a leather
glove, hold the end of a synthetic rope over a flame, and roll the
melted end between the thumb and forefinger of the glove to prevent
unraveling.)
Clove hitches might work around the handle, but I'd use constrictor or
miller's knots to make sure they didn't slide along the handle. A
miller's knot is like a clove hitch, but you add an overhand knot where
the two lines pass under the crossover turn.
willshak
This one isn't that old compared to some of the other hub posts. Only 8
months.
--
Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @
Red Green
news:f2358$4d26822d$45499b77$30...@news.flashnewsgroups.com:
> responding to
> http://www.homeownershub.com/maintenance/How-to-drag-large-garbage-can-
It's a homeowners hub spammer.
{curious to see if I'm still blacklisted with this reply...hopefully)
Higgs Boson
> sales_at_tow-a-bin_dot_...@foo.com (towabin) wrote innews:f2358$4d26822d$45499b77$30...@news.flashnewsgroups.com:
This one about moving trash bins down steep driveway has been around
SO many times!
What kind of weird kick do they get out of re-re-re-posting it?
HB
HeyBub
This one's different. He's trying to move the trash can UP the driveway.
Presumably, when it's empty, he can just kick it home.
cauzee...@gmail.com
You can buy a small hitch for the back of your car that is designed for smaller tows like garbage cans. I'm looking into those for the same reason. If you haven't already - maybe call your garbage company. Where I used to live they had what they called an 'on-site' option for seniors and/or physically impaired. You'd have your doctor sign a form validating your age etc., and then they sign you up. The garbage man would come up to the gate and get my cans. The same service was available to sturdy folk, but they had to pay for it.
Best of luck.
On Monday, May 3, 2010 at 8:22:05 PM UTC-7, Walter E. wrote:
> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
> landscape debris.
>
> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>
> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>
> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>
>
>
> -
> Walter
> www.rationality.net
Jim Joyce
>
>On Monday, May 3, 2010 at 8:22:05 PM UTC-7, Walter E. wrote:
>> Our city provides large garbage cans, about 4' tall and 30" square. Full,
>> they can weigh up to 200 pounds, especially if we fill them with heavy ice
>> plant. Our home is located at the bottom of a fairly steep driveway (50' in
>> length). We have three of these black cans for household garbage and
>> landscape debris.
>>
>> I am getting on in years (80 YO) and find it hard to roll these monster cans
>> up to the curb for pickup by the garbage truck. I have tried tying them (one
>> at a time) to the hook for my trunk lid inside my trunk.
>>
>> The problem is, the cans meander something awful when I pull them up the
>> hill with my car, to the point where I am afraid they might tip over
>> sideways. I have used heavy rope and also bungee cords. Same problem.
>>
>> Any better suggestion, anyone? Thank you.
>>
>Dear Walter,
>
>You can buy a small hitch for the back of your car that is designed for smaller tows like garbage cans. I'm looking into those for the same reason. If you haven't already - maybe call your garbage company. Where I used to live they had what they called an 'on-site' option for seniors and/or physically impaired. You'd have your doctor sign a form validating your age etc., and then they sign you up. The garbage man would come up to the gate and get my cans. The same service was available to sturdy folk, but they had to pay for it.
>
>Best of luck.
>
his situation may have changed significantly.
Rod Speed
Peeler
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:
<FLUSH trollshit>
--
Keema Nam addressing nym-shifting senile Rodent:
"You are now exposed as a liar, as well as an ignorant troll."
"MID: <0001HW.22B654E700...@news.giganews.com>"
gfre...@aol.com
wrote:
decade and his only complaint is they canceled the New York Marathon