Anyone use "Great Stuff" expanding foam?
zxcvbob
threaded end of straw assembly securely onto valve. Despense slowly"
The valve doesn't seem to work -- it's not clogged, there's just no
opening. If I mash on it hard enough, a little foam leaks out around
the bottom of th rubber stem. If I mash on it *really* hard, the rubber
stem will probably break off and it will blow up.
I don't know if this can is defective, or what.
Best regards,
Bob
EXT
one of the finger grips on the straw assembly.
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Rick
Make sure you rock the valve, not push down straight...
HerHusband
> How do you get the f! stuff out of the can?
> If I mash on it hard enough, a little foam
> leaks out around the bottom of th rubber stem.
You typically dispense the foam by pushing the stem to the side, not down
like a paint can. And for most cans, you have to hold it upside down for
the foam to come out.
However, I have used several cans in the past that failed to dispense the
foam. Some of the foam probably just cured in the can. If you've already
tried dispensing some, the rest of the can is probably history by now.
> I don't know if this can is defective, or what.
Probably just a bad can. Try a different one. It should come out fairly
easy, but once it starts you'll need to use the entire can. Despite what
the instructions sometimes say, I've never been able to reuse a partial
can.
Oh, and don't get this stuff on your hands, clothes, or anything else of
value. You'll be wearing it on your hands for a week or more, and it'll
never come out of anything else.
Anthony
zxcvbob
I've done that. This can must have a defective valve.
It might be fun to shoot in the back yard with a pellet gun, but I
really needed to use the stuff to make "foam in place" packing to ship a
computer crosscountry.
Bob
George E. Cawthon
Judging by the other answers, it isn't defective,
just a little old or has been partially used. I
had a can of the stuff and didn't use it because
once you use it, that's it. It's meant to be used
all at once, according to the instructions. So,
when the time came to use it, it wouldn't. So buy
it and use it immediately or expect a problem.
zxcvbob
I bought it several months ago, and just tried to use it for the first
time today. It still had the plastic wrap seal around the lid, so I
know it wasn't messed with at the store.
Bad can. If I ever buy the stuff again I'll make sure to save my
receipt and use it right away.
Bob
abi
way to use a 2 component. 1 component foam cures by using moisture in
the air as a catalyst. That means it really isn't a good option for
packing foam. If you put it on or in anything in a bead (or pile in a
box, in your case), the outside will cure and seal the moisture out and
the inside will remain semi-liquid. Ideally, you would layer it an inch
at a time and wait for whatever cure time it says on the can goes by
before applying another layer, but you may have better luck just
cutting up some styrofoam blocks to fit the component and the box.
Next question will be where do you get 2 component foam. There are some
small Fomo Foam kits at www.betterfoam.com that do like 15 or 20 board
feet (sq. ft. @ 1" thick) for smaller jobs and Tiger Foam kits are good
for bigger jobs. This kind of foam is really too expensive to use as a
packaging foam, unless there's a good profit built into the product.
Although, I did once see an airplane fuselage, looked like a lear jet,
crated up and they had 2 guys each with a foam kit just pumping it into
the crate. They had a pallet of the foam there. I talked to them and
they said that they would use the whole pallet to ship that one
fuselage. I commented that their must be a good profit margin in
selling fuselages if the packing foam cost $5,000 or more! I'm in the
wrong business.
To get back to your question, bad can, wrong application, get some
styrofoam and pack it tight. Shoot the can and enjoy life!
abi
zxcvbob
> I know I go to lengths not to use one component foams if there is any
> way to use a 2 component. 1 component foam cures by using moisture in
> the air as a catalyst. That means it really isn't a good option for
> packing foam. If you put it on or in anything in a bead (or pile in a
> box, in your case), the outside will cure and seal the moisture out and
> the inside will remain semi-liquid. Ideally, you would layer it an inch
> at a time and wait for whatever cure time it says on the can goes by
> before applying another layer, but you may have better luck just
> cutting up some styrofoam blocks to fit the component and the box.
<snip>
> To get back to your question, bad can, wrong application, get some
> styrofoam and pack it tight. Shoot the can and enjoy life!
>
> abi
>
Thanks. I'm gonna go to Menard's or Home Depot tomorrow after church
and buy a 4x8' sheet of 1" styrofoam insulation and cut it to line the
box. Then wedge a few big pieces in to keep things from shifting, and
fill it up with "packing peanuts".
The foam packing just seemed like a good use for this can of Stuff that
I had already. I think shooting it might be a better use :-) Too bad I
gotta use a pellet gun and don't have a place to legally shoot it with a
pistol.
Bob
Joey
You don't want to use that stuff to spray around a computer for shipping
as it will ruin the computer. That stuff expands as it's drying and can
exert a lot of force. I guess you could shoot it inside a good plastic
bag and let it expand for packing but I wouldn't do that. The peanuts
or shaped foam would be the best. Also bubble wrap around the computer
would work fine.
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
> Bob,
>
> You don't want to use that stuff to spray around a computer for shipping
> as it will ruin the computer. That stuff expands as it's drying and can
> exert a lot of force. I guess you could shoot it inside a good plastic
> bag and let it expand for packing but I wouldn't do that. The peanuts
> or shaped foam would be the best. Also bubble wrap around the computer
> would work fine.
Forget the peanuts as well; they settle too much. I am a firm believer in
bubble wrap.
--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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AKA gray asphalt
I"d be tempted to shoot corner pieces of foam.
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Ross Mac
"We Kick Your Packages Coast to Coast".....
Edwin Pawlowski
"Ross Mac" <this.is...@example.invalid> wrote in message
> Just think twice about using UPS...I have always said their motto should
> be "We Kick Your Packages Coast to Coast".....
>
Perhaps., but the others are no better. FedEx recently delivered an empty
box to me because the contents fell out when it was damaged.
zxcvbob
I'm probably gonna use FedEx Ground because it is several dollars
cheaper than UPS. I am going to insure the package for $1000 (that's a
realistic value), so while I hope it gets there in one piece it really
doesn't matter all *that* much if they destroy it.
I don't think an insured package will get mishandled much.
Best regards,
Bob
HerHusband
>> Just think twice about using UPS...I have always said their motto
>> should be "We Kick Your Packages Coast to Coast".....
> Perhaps., but the others are no better. FedEx recently delivered an
> empty box to me because the contents fell out when it was damaged.
Regular postal mail is about the same. A friend once mailed me a record
album, with "fragile" and "do not bend" written all over the package. It
arrived rolled up and stuffed in our mailbox... :)
Anthony
Jeff Wisnia
> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>
>> "Ross Mac" <this.is...@example.invalid> wrote in message
>>
>>
>>> Just think twice about using UPS...I have always said their motto
>>> should be "We Kick Your Packages Coast to Coast".....
>>>
>>
>> Perhaps., but the others are no better. FedEx recently delivered an
>> empty box to me because the contents fell out when it was damaged.
>>
>
>
> I'm probably gonna use FedEx Ground because it is several dollars
> cheaper than UPS. I am going to insure the package for $1000 (that's a
> realistic value), so while I hope it gets there in one piece it really
> doesn't matter all *that* much if they destroy it.
Just make sure you can produce a bill of sale documenting what you (or
the owner) paid for the computer.
Those carriers can be real bastards when it comes to settling claims,
particularly if you're not a regular customer and have your own account
with them.
Just because you pay them an insurance premium for $1,000 of coverage
doesn't mean they will rush to hand you a check for $1,000, if the
package gets lost or even crushed under the wheels of one of their own
trucks. <G>
>
> I don't think an insured package will get mishandled much.
I doubt the folks handling them give any special consideration to that.
Jeff
--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
"Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented."
zxcvbob
He paid about $1400 for it less than 2 years ago, and probably still has
a receipt. The same model comes up occasionally on eBay and sells for
about $1100.
I packed it in so much bubble wrap and styrofoam (mostly 1" thick
sheets, just a few "peanuts" to fill some small hollow spots), and used
so much tape to seal the box it will probably survive falling out of the
truck if the truck isn't moving too fast -- and if they don't run over
it :-) The box is not going to come open until someone takes a
boxcutter to it; my brother is gonna be cussing me when he tries to get
all that strapping tape off because he doesn't carry a knife.
The biggest risk is that they steal it or lose it. And I don't think
that happens very often.
Best regards,
Bob
Stormin Mormon
the frame in. Some energy savings....
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.
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On Sat, 20 Aug 2005 21:05:26 -0400, Joey
<jlancos...@moultriega.com> wrote:
>That stuff expands as it's drying and can
>exert a lot of force.
Yup, that is true. I have seen people warp window and door frames by
shooting too much foam in.
Stormin Mormon
1) read directions
2) Wear gloves (really)
3) Cram the straw onto the barbed end of the nozzle
4) Screw angled gadget onto nozzle tip on can
5) Shake can vigorously for 60 seconds
6) Invert. Nozzle needs to be at the bottom
7) Use finger to bend the nozzle, with angle and tube atached. Bending the
nozzle releases the foam. Foam expands about 3x the size it is when
dispensing.
9) The stuff comes off fairly easily when dry, but doesn't want to come off
skin if gotten on when it's wet. Try gasoline.
10) Item eight was an intentional omission, and it is not necessary to
report the absence to your supervisor.
11) If you store the can much more than a couple months, it goes defective.
I've had that happen.
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.
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Stretch
expand as much. Still use gloves.
To ship computer, pop about 4 bags of cheap microwave popcorn and use
it for packing. Works great.
Stretch
Duane Bozarth
>
> One friend of mine can no longer close his storm door cause the GS pushed
> the frame in. Some energy savings....
>
Just to note that misapplication isn't the product's fault...
Stormin Mormon
expand back out.
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.
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Stormin Mormon
human consumption, throw popcorn out for the birds". That was a pretty
"green" idea. Environmental friendly.
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.
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zxcvbob
> I got some popcorn that way, one time. Had a packing slip that said "not for
> human consumption, throw popcorn out for the birds". That was a pretty
> "green" idea. Environmental friendly.
>
Air popped corn would work better, and it's a good use for that old air
popper way in the back under the kitchen cabinet.
Bob
Stormin Mormon
--
Christopher A. Young
Do good work.
It's longer in the short run
but shorter in the long run.
.
.
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Ross Mac
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stuff....it's a matter of degree and I have found that UPS is the worst of
them all....
My 2 cents....