Why is it Called Pipe DOPE?
littleb...@ruhard.com
word "DOPE".
Does it contain a narcotic or psychedelic substance which will get
people stoned when ingested or smoked?
Or was it invented by a Dope, or only used by Dopes?
Or could it be that the original inventor had the last name of Dope,
such as Bob Dope?
Why do you think they call it Dope?
(And if it really does induce hallucinations when smoked, how the hell
do you smoke it? ...... Let me guess...... aahhhhhh, IN A PIPE?
So that's why they call it PIPE DOPE.....)
The Henchman
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'cause any dope can seal a thread?
Jim Elbrecht
>I've used Pipe Dope for years, and always wondered why they use the
>word "DOPE".
This is likely just a troll-- but I'll bite. I like words and where
they came from.
I can get you back to the 19th century when it seemed to indicate any
goopy mix that had a specific purpose. There was 'dope' to keep
snow from sticking to your snowshoes, and 'dope' that was part of an
explosives mix.
Googling also turned up a 1920's trademark infringement case where
Coke-Cola wanted to own the term. They lost. [and that was after
they took the cocaine out of the recipe, I think]
Jim
Ed Pawlowski
<littleb...@ruhard.com> wrote in message
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> I've used Pipe Dope for years, and always wondered why they use the
> word "DOPE".
>
> Does it contain a narcotic or psychedelic substance which will get
> people stoned when ingested or smoked?
>
> Or was it invented by a Dope, or only used by Dopes?
>
> Or could it be that the original inventor had the last name of Dope,
> such as Bob Dope?
>
> Why do you think they call it Dope?
Aircraft dope is a plasticised lacquer used for fabric covered airplanes,
both real and models. My guess is that the slang term for pipe dope comes
from that era. Probably ges back about a hundred years or so.
Bill
sore muscles.
And maybe for the same reason a young friend tells me someone is
"sick", I say perhaps the person should go to the doctor?, then he
laughs at me because "sick" now means "cool"...
FYI - A short piece of galvanized pipe is called a "nipple". So go to
the hardware store and say you need some "dope" to apply to your
"nipple"!
I'm still trying to figure out why airplanes have "cockpits" and ships
have "poop decks"...
LSMFT
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LSmFT
I'm trying to think but nothing happens............
Jim Elbrecht
Just guessing on the airplane- but the early ones looked a lot like
where you'd toss a couple chickens to fight. [cramped deep quarters
with a screened top.]
The ships poop deck actually has its origins in just what it sounds
like-- it was where you went to poop.
Jim
GDG
feet long, with a pusher on every rig.
Steve Barker
The stuff they glued airplane skins (fabric) down with is called dope also.
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Jack
Larry Fishel
> FYI - A short piece of galvanized pipe is called a "nipple". So go to
> the hardware store and say you need some "dope" to apply to your
> "nipple"!
But you don't want it stuck in the fixture, so make sure you ask for
some nipple grease while you're there...
harry
Naw. That was the "heads". Poop is from Latin I think. Or Froggish.
Tony Miklos
I remember red dope to help the high voltage in TV's from arcing. That
stuff really was "Dope", one whiff and you forgot what your were doing.
David Nebenzahl
> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
> sore muscles.
Yep on the dial, but dunno about "Ben Gay"; that's just a trade name.
So here's one for you, speaking of things archaic: why do we still say
"turn on a light"?
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To me, the *plonk...* reminds me of the old man at the public hearing
who stands to make his point, then removes his hearing aid as a sign
that he is not going to hear any rebuttals.
David Nebenzahl
> On Jan 27, 3:53 pm, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
>
>> The ships poop deck actually has its origins in just what it sounds
>> like-- it was where you went to poop.
>
> Naw. That was the "heads". Poop is from Latin I think. Or Froggish.
Yep. According to the dictionary (American Heritage here):
poop n. Nautical. 1. The stern superstructure of a ship. 2. The poop
deck. [Old French /poupe/, from Latin /puppis/.]
Got nothing whatever to do with poop as used today.
David Nebenzahl
> David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote in
> news:4d425515$0$31030$8226...@news.adtechcomputers.com:
>
>> On 1/27/2011 6:11 AM Bill spake thus:
>>
>>> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
>>> sore muscles.
>>
>> Yep on the dial, but dunno about "Ben Gay"; that's just a trade name.
>>
>> So here's one for you, speaking of things archaic: why do we still say
>> "turn on a light"?
>
> I have a lamp where the switch is 'turned'.
> (not a wall switch, but on the lamp).
Well, OK: I was getting at how lights were activated back in the old
days. Ancient light switches were rotary, so one literally "turned on"
the light.
harry
From gas lights.
Ed Pawlowski
"Earl" <ea...@nym.alias.org> wrote .>
> I have a lamp where the switch is 'turned'.
> (not a wall switch, but on the lamp).
It is a regional thing, but some people open the light and close it when
done.
Bob Villa
> ?
> "Earl" <e...@nym.alias.org> wrote .>
Yes, but to add to the confusion...to "open" the light...you "close"
the circuit.
I could take someone to an old department store where the AC wires are
exposed copper on the ceilings (about 6" apart). Rotary and pull-chain
switches. Old stuff is very "sick"!
Jim Elbrecht
>David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote in
>news:4d425515$0$31030$8226...@news.adtechcomputers.com:
>
>> On 1/27/2011 6:11 AM Bill spake thus:
>>
>>> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
>>> sore muscles.
>>
>> Yep on the dial, but dunno about "Ben Gay"; that's just a trade name.
>>
>> So here's one for you, speaking of things archaic: why do we still say
>> "turn on a light"?
>>
>>
>
>I have a lamp where the switch is 'turned'.
>(not a wall switch, but on the lamp).
I'll bet 'turning on' a light predates electric lights. Oil lamps &
gas lamps needed turning, for the most part.
Jim
Han
$8226...@news.adtechcomputers.com:
> On 1/27/2011 12:44 PM harry spake thus:
>
>> On Jan 27, 3:53 pm, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The ships poop deck actually has its origins in just what it sounds
>>> like-- it was where you went to poop.
>>
>> Naw. That was the "heads". Poop is from Latin I think. Or Froggish.
>
> Yep. According to the dictionary (American Heritage here):
>
> poop n. Nautical. 1. The stern superstructure of a ship. 2. The poop
> deck. [Old French /poupe/, from Latin /puppis/.]
>
> Got nothing whatever to do with poop as used today.
I googled for poop deck etymolgy and found this as the top-listed entry:
http://www.pbase.com/image/22254153:
Poop Deck: The aft-most, raised weather deck on a ship. The name came
from the Middle English poupe, from the Latin puppim, meaning the rear
section of a ship The word derived from the Latin Puppis, meaning a doll
or small image, The Romans and other ancient seafaring peoples had a
small sacred idol or image affixed to the stern, where the deity it
represented could watch over the vessel. To be �pooped� incidentally,
meant to have a wave break over the ship's stern.
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Best regards
Han
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HeyBub
> I've used Pipe Dope for years, and always wondered why they use the
> word "DOPE".
>
> Does it contain a narcotic or psychedelic substance which will get
> people stoned when ingested or smoked?
>
> Or was it invented by a Dope, or only used by Dopes?
>
> Or could it be that the original inventor had the last name of Dope,
> such as Bob Dope?
>
> Why do you think they call it Dope?
>
"Placenta" was already taken. For a completely different thing.
Bob Villa
Bub...WTF! Where did come from?!
Bob Villa
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:21:58 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa
> I've seen knob and tube wiring and it was always insulated wire, (the
> old cloth covered stuff). That was actually a very safe wiring method.
> But BARE? That sounds like a cobble job that some moron put together.
> I'm surprised the code/inspectors have not banned it. There's nothing
> wrong with rotary or pull chain switches. Most people still have pull
> chain switches in their basements.
These are something like 16' ceilings and the drops are insulated.
This is common for the era.
Harry K
Literal translation from german "make the light off". My wife still
uses that after being in the states for over 30 years. Same for doors
and windows "make the door shut"
Harry K
Harry K
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:21:58 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa
>
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> <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've seen knob and tube wiring and it was always insulated wire, (the
> old cloth covered stuff). That was actually a very safe wiring method.
> But BARE? That sounds like a cobble job that some moron put together.
> I'm surprised the code/inspectors have not banned it. There's nothing
> wrong with rotary or pull chain switches. Most people still have pull
>
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And available in any store selling electrical goods.
Harry K
Harry K
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I tried to recall my mother's house. A real rat nest of old knob/
tube, younger romex addons, etc. A real electrician would have had a
heart attack. Anyhow I can't remember if the knob/tube was bare or
insulated.
Harry K
Harry K
> I've used Pipe Dope for years, and always wondered why they use the
> word "DOPE".
>
> Does it contain a narcotic or psychedelic substance which will get
> people stoned when ingested or smoked?
>
> Or was it invented by a Dope, or only used by Dopes?
>
> Or could it be that the original inventor had the last name of Dope,
> such as Bob Dope?
>
> Why do you think they call it Dope?
>
> do you smoke it? ...... Let me guess...... aahhhhhh, IN A PIPE?
> So that's why they call it PIPE DOPE.....)
The verb is "to dope (something)", i.e., to cover soemthing with a
substance to accomplish a purpose. Plane dope for fabric covered
planes, pipe dope to aid in proper sealing, etc.
Bob Villa
This has ceramic insulators every few feet...and if I remember
correctly, the bare stuff is solid and heavy gauge.
I could probably get in there and take a picture...if anyone has
piqued interest.
Steve Barker
> I've seen knob and tube wiring and it was always insulated wire, (the
> old cloth covered stuff). That was actually a very safe wiring method.
> But BARE? That sounds like a cobble job that some moron put together.
> I'm surprised the code/inspectors have not banned it. There's nothing
> wrong with rotary or pull chain switches. Most people still have pull
> chain switches in their basements.
>
there's a house across the street from us that has ceiling mounted
lights, but the ROTARY switch hangs down on a cord.
harry
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:21:58 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa
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> I've seen knob and tube wiring and it was always insulated wire, (the
> old cloth covered stuff). That was actually a very safe wiring method.
> But BARE? That sounds like a cobble job that some moron put together.
> I'm surprised the code/inspectors have not banned it. There's nothing
> wrong with rotary or pull chain switches. Most people still have pull
>
> - Show quoted text -
They are a requirement even now in bathrooms in the UK. They're much
quicker to wire too.
<http://www.screwfix.com/prods/94117/Electrical-Supplies/Switches-
Sockets/White-Moulded/Marbo-Range/6A-2W-Ceiling-Pull-Cord-Sw>
harry
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Machen die tur zu, Make the door to. Also said in Northern Englnd
even now.
Put t' door to.
harry
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I can remember stuff like that years ago. It dated from the 1920s I
think. We pulled it all out on a job when I was an apprentice.
hr(bob) hofmann@att.net
> On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 04:21:58 -0800 (PST), Bob Villa
>
>
>
>
>
> <pheeh.z...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I've seen knob and tube wiring and it was always insulated wire, (the
> old cloth covered stuff). That was actually a very safe wiring method.
> But BARE? That sounds like a cobble job that some moron put together.
> I'm surprised the code/inspectors have not banned it. There's nothing
> wrong with rotary or pull chain switches. Most people still have pull
>
> - Show quoted text -
My daughter owned a house in central Illinois a few years ago that had
knob and tube wiring, The actual wires were covered with a rubbery
compound and then a woven cotton sleeving on the outside. I
suggested we replace it before insuring it, and talked to the
insurance guy. He said K&T wiring was fine, no higher premium than if
it were wired with romex, so we left it alone.. Sold the house about 5
years ago.
Tony Miklos
> On 1/27/2011 6:11 AM Bill spake thus:
>
>> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
>> sore muscles.
>
> Yep on the dial, but dunno about "Ben Gay"; that's just a trade name.
>
> So here's one for you, speaking of things archaic: why do we still say
> "turn on a light"?
>
I have a PA Dutch switch plate that says "Outen the light".
k...@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz
wrote:
>On 1/27/2011 10:30 PM Earl spake thus:
>
>> David Nebenzahl <nob...@but.us.chickens> wrote in
>> news:4d425515$0$31030$8226...@news.adtechcomputers.com:
>>
>>> On 1/27/2011 6:11 AM Bill spake thus:
>>>
>>>> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
>>>> sore muscles.
>>>
>>> Yep on the dial, but dunno about "Ben Gay"; that's just a trade name.
>>>
>>> So here's one for you, speaking of things archaic: why do we still say
>>> "turn on a light"?
>>
>> I have a lamp where the switch is 'turned'.
>> (not a wall switch, but on the lamp).
>
>Well, OK: I was getting at how lights were activated back in the old
>days. Ancient light switches were rotary, so one literally "turned on"
>the light.
The wall switches in my grandmother's house (K&T wiring) were push-button (two
buttons, one with a white circle, one black).
David Nebenzahl
Yes, I think most of us have seen those switches, which I actually like
a lot; they're much in demand nowadays for folks wanting to retro-ify
their old houses. (New ones are available with rotary dimmers in one of
the buttons.) By the way, those switches were built like the proverbial
brick shithouse and seem to last forever.
The rotary switches I was talking about pre-date those pushbutton switches.
hur...@gmail.com
bob_villain
Paint...@unlisted.moo
[Google a photo of a scrambled egg to find out why]
*** THAT *** Is your BRAIN on DOPE....
Yea, I remember those old commercials...
But honestly, I have never known anyone who has smoked pipe dope !
(or even "pope dipe")...
If they did, they would have "Drain Bamage".
Pavel314
> I've used Pipe Dope for years, and always wondered why they use the
> word "DOPE".
>
> Does it contain a narcotic or psychedelic substance which will get
> people stoned when ingested or smoked?
>
> Or was it invented by a Dope, or only used by Dopes?
>
> Or could it be that the original inventor had the last name of Dope,
> such as Bob Dope?
>
> Why do you think they call it Dope?
>
>
> (And if it really does induce hallucinations when smoked, how the hell
> do you smoke it? ...... Let me guess...... aahhhhhh, IN A PIPE?
> So that's why they call it PIPE DOPE.....)
dope (n.) Look up dope at Dictionary.com
1807, American English, "sauce, gravy, thick liquid," from Dutch doop "thick dipping sauce," from doopen "to dip" (see dip (v.)). Extension to "drug" is 1889, from practice of smoking semi-liquid opium preparation. Meaning "foolish, stupid person" is older (1851) and may have a sense of "thick-headed." Sense of "inside information" (1901) may come from knowing before the race which horse had been drugged to influence performance. Dope-fiend is attested from 1896.
Paul
Pavel314
> For the same reason you "dial" a phone number. Or apply "Ben Gay" on
> sore muscles.
>
> "sick", I say perhaps the person should go to the doctor?, then he
> laughs at me because "sick" now means "cool"...
>
> FYI - A short piece of galvanized pipe is called a "nipple". So go to
> the hardware store and say you need some "dope" to apply to your
> "nipple"!
>
> I'm still trying to figure out why airplanes have "cockpits" and ships
> have "poop decks"...
From http://etymonline.com/index.php
poop (n.1) Look up poop at Dictionary.com
"stern deck of a ship," c. 1400, from Middle French poupe "stern of a ship" (14c.), from Old Provençal or Italian poppa, from Latin puppis "poop, stern," of uncertain origin. Poop deck attested by 1779.
cockpit (n.) Look up cockpit at Dictionary.com
1580s, "a pit for fighting cocks," from cock (n.1) + pit (n.1). Used in nautical sense (1706) for midshipmen's compartment below decks; transferred to airplanes (1914) and to cars (1930s).
Paul