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Discharge sump pump into same drain as kitchen sink and laundry tub?

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chrisc

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Mar 17, 2009, 5:31:03 PM3/17/09
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In my basement near a corner there is a 1 1/2 pvc pipe running down
the wall from the upstairs kitchen. The laundry tub is also tied into
this same pipe and they flow to the right into the sewer. On the far
left of the basement is my sump pump. I want to discharge the water to
the same spot. It would be about 30 feet. Where the pipe from the pump
would enter is about 20" high. Do i need a special slope to angle the
water towards the drain? Can it be level? I will have a check valve on
it. Is this against some kind of code? Is this enough info? Want any
more questions? Thanks . This group is great and lots of help.

Marissa Taylor

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Mar 17, 2009, 5:34:54 PM3/17/09
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Tying a sump pump to a sewer line is a major code violation and also
risks backing up your entire sewer system. I'd find somewhere else to
route the sump pump.

John Grabowski

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Mar 17, 2009, 6:11:35 PM3/17/09
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"chrisc" <cchri...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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*I don't know where you live, but in New Jersey it is illegal to have a sump
pump discharge into a sanitary sewer line. Apparently in so doing it would
add more volume and consequently more expense to sewer treatment plants.

tra...@optonline.net

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Mar 17, 2009, 6:37:06 PM3/17/09
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On Mar 17, 6:11 pm, "John Grabowski" <jgrabo...@optonline.net> wrote:
> "chrisc" <cchrista...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Yes. First thing to do is check if it's allowed or not. Many places
it isn't for the very good reason John cites.

Doug Miller

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Mar 17, 2009, 8:03:52 PM3/17/09
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The big issue with the extra volume isn't the expense -- it's simply the extra
volume. Dumping rainwater into a sanitary sewer can easily overwhelm it. And
if this happens, the inevitable result is raw sewage in rivers and streams.

Don't do it.

EXT

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Mar 17, 2009, 7:20:09 PM3/17/09
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And if you are allowed, you will need to provide a vent, as the 1 1/2" line
is a drain line for the kitchen sink and laundry. Your pump may overtax the
lines capacity as well, as the line is probably at its rated limit.

tra...@optonline.net

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Mar 17, 2009, 7:45:27 PM3/17/09
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On Mar 17, 8:03 pm, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
> In article <49c024a7$0$22535$607ed...@cv.net>, "John Grabowski" <jgrabo...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >"chrisc" <cchrista...@gmail.com> wrote in message

> >news:93e983fa-d230-43ca...@d19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> >> In my basement near a corner there is a 1 1/2  pvc pipe running down
> >> the wall from the upstairs  kitchen. The laundry tub is also tied into
> >> this same pipe and they flow to the right into the sewer. On the far
> >> left of the basement is my sump pump. I want to discharge the water to
> >> the same spot. It would be about 30 feet. Where the pipe from the pump
> >> would enter is about 20" high. Do i need a special slope to angle the
> >> water towards the drain? Can it be level? I will have a check valve on
> >> it. Is this against some kind of code? Is this enough info? Want any
> >> more questions? Thanks . This group is great and lots of help.
>
> >*I don't know where you live, but in New Jersey it is illegal to have a sump
> >pump discharge into a sanitary sewer line.  Apparently in so doing it would
> >add more volume and consequently more expense to sewer treatment plants.
>
> The big issue with the extra volume isn't the expense -- it's simply the extra
> volume.

Some would say extra volume does equal extra expense. A facility
only has the capacity to process X amount of sewage water per day.
If it gets more than that, you need another plant. Plus, there are
chemicals involved too, aren't there?


>Dumping rainwater into a sanitary sewer can easily overwhelm it. And
> if this happens, the inevitable result is raw sewage in rivers and streams.
>

> Don't do it.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

paanmc

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Apr 1, 2009, 10:37:50 PM4/1/09
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paanmc had written this in response to
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I live in Ohio and it's also illegal around here to discharge a sump pump
into a sanitary sewer line. I suspect it's like that is most places.
I know one home owner who had a shady plumber do this for him, and while
it when a long time without being noticed, when it was found out (when
later work was done, but would also have been a problem if selling the
house).
Don't try to tie your sump in to the sewer.
You'll want to run a line outside for the sump. You can discharge away
from the foundation, like to a dry well (many like that in our
neighborhood) or you might be able to run a line down to the street (or
tie into the downspouts if they already run that way - that's the way our
house is). This might be limited by local rules.
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tra...@optonline.net wrote:

> On Mar 17, 8:03=A0pm, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
>> In article <49c024a7$0$22535$607ed...@cv.net>, "John

>> Grabowski" <jgrabo..=


> .@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> >"chrisc" <cchrista...@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>

>>news:93e983fa-d230-43ca...@d19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com..=
>> .
>> >> In my basement near a corner there is a 1 1/2 =A0pvc pipe
>>>> running down
>> >> the wall from the upstairs =A0kitchen. The laundry tub is
>>>> also tied in=


> to
>> >> this same pipe and they flow to the right into the sewer.
>>>> On the far
>> >> left of the basement is my sump pump. I want to discharge
>>>> the water to
>> >> the same spot. It would be about 30 feet. Where the pipe
>>>> from the pump
>> >> would enter is about 20" high. Do i need a special
>>>> slope to angle the
>> >> water towards the drain? Can it be level? I will have a
>>>> check valve on
>> >> it. Is this against some kind of code? Is this enough
>>>> info? Want any
>> >> more questions? Thanks . This group is great and lots of
>>>> help.
>>
>> >*I don't know where you live, but in New Jersey it is illegal

>>> to have a =
> sump
>> >pump discharge into a sanitary sewer line. =A0Apparently in so
>>> doing it =


> would
>> >add more volume and consequently more expense to sewer
>>> treatment plants.
>>
>> The big issue with the extra volume isn't the expense -- it's

>> simply the =
> extra
>> volume.

> Some would say extra volume does equal extra expense. A facility
> only has the capacity to process X amount of sewage water per day.
> If it gets more than that, you need another plant. Plus, there are
> chemicals involved too, aren't there?


>>Dumping rainwater into a sanitary sewer can easily overwhelm it.
>> And
>> if this happens, the inevitable result is raw sewage in rivers and

>> stream=


> s.
>>
>> Don't do it.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -


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ransley

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Apr 2, 2009, 8:13:12 AM4/2/09
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Where I am and most water companies, it would be a big fine the water
co said, with an extra charge every day. Call your water co, and plan
to run it outside. A big rain can back up sewers and it wont drain out
just when you need it. Some areas sewers can back into houses, then
you have to have it pump into the yard. Its not worth the risks to
drain into a sewer.

JIMMIE

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Apr 2, 2009, 9:03:50 PM4/2/09
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On Apr 1, 10:37 pm, paanmc_at_yahoo_dot_...@foo.com (paanmc) wrote:
> paanmc had written this in response tohttp://www.thestuccocompany.com/maintenance/Re-Discharge-sump-pump-in...

>  :
>
> I live in Ohio and it's also illegal around here to discharge a sump pump
> into a sanitary sewer line. I suspect it's like that is most places.
> I know one home owner who had a shady plumber do this for him, and while
> it when a long time without being noticed, when it was found out (when
> later work was done, but would also have been a problem if selling the
> house).
> Don't try to tie your sump in to the sewer.
> You'll want to run a line outside for the sump. You can discharge away
> from the foundation, like to a dry well (many like that in our
> neighborhood) or you might be able to run a line down to the street (or
> tie into the downspouts if they already run that way - that's the way our
> house is). This might be limited by local rules.
> -------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
> trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 8:03=A0pm, spamb...@milmac.com (Doug Miller) wrote:
> >> In article <49c024a7$0$22535$607ed...@cv.net>, "John
> >> Grabowski" <jgrabo..=
> ##-----------------------------------------------##- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

The few houses in my neighborhood that have sump pumps also have
drainage fields around there basement. The sump pump is tied to theh
drainage field and it goes from there to the curb to run down to the
storm sewer.

Jimmie

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