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Daniel Prince

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Dec 1, 2012, 5:54:04 PM12/1/12
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My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
only last two or three years before he has to replace them.

Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
telephone handset cords from being twisted.)

My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.
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Dec 1, 2012, 7:40:33 PM12/1/12
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On 12/1/2012 2:54 PM, Daniel Prince wrote:
> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.
Ok, how does the twist occur? He probably grabs one end and starts
gathering loops with the other hand and adds them to the bunch in the other.

Each time he makes the loop, he twists the extension cord one time. When
he uses the cord he probably just dumps it and pulls on an end. this
does not take the original twist out of the cord. Then he gathers the
cord using the same method as before and adds yet another twist to the cord.

The solution is to wind the cord on a reel with a crank that is made for
extension cords.

If the twist occurs while mowing, the simple solution is to mow the
opposite direction next time. Or don't go in circles!

Paul

gregz

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Dec 1, 2012, 8:08:49 PM12/1/12
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Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.

I got a 100 foot cord which stays outside. Its not twisted. Either up your
brother should alter his cutting sequence, and perhaps, do not coil.

Greg

Metspitzer

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Dec 1, 2012, 8:57:56 PM12/1/12
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:54:04 -0800, Daniel Prince
<neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
>Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
>from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
>telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
>My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
>cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.

I use tape. Pull the cord out in a straight line. Make a circle and
tape, then roll the cord up like a wheel.

(PeteCresswell)

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Dec 1, 2012, 9:13:50 PM12/1/12
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Per Daniel Prince:
>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
>Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
>from being twisted?

I can think of three things:

- Think though the pattern he walks when cutting so it
does not twist the cord

- When winding the cord follow the technique described
here: http://tinyurl.com/d9qrlxt

- When buying a cord, get one with a stripe down it so
he can see when it's getting twisted (i.e. he's doing
something wrong)
--
Pete Cresswell

Stormin Mormon

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Dec 1, 2012, 9:23:18 PM12/1/12
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Observe his behavior, see what puts the twists into the cords. Help him
change his behaviours. Or, stretch the cord out every use, and untwist it.

Christopher A. Young
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Smitty Two

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Dec 1, 2012, 9:38:32 PM12/1/12
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In article <352lb85k7ktcsbufc...@4ax.com>,
Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.

Electricians use this method:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Looks a little ugly and bulky, but never tangles.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Dec 1, 2012, 9:46:30 PM12/1/12
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There is a very simple way to avoid twisting an extention cord. Get
a cord winding rack - basically a "flat spool" - and while holding the
rack upright, and unmoving, simply coil the cord onto the rack, To
unwind the cord, do the same. Hold the rack straigt and unmoving, and
simply unloop the crd off the rack.

100 feet? No problem - not a SINGLE twist.
Learned that one winding mic and speaker cords back in high school
where I was one of the A/V techs after school. (45 years ago)

Daniel Prince

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Dec 1, 2012, 10:05:17 PM12/1/12
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Paul Drahn <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote:

>Each time he makes the loop, he twists the extension cord one time. When
>he uses the cord he probably just dumps it and pulls on an end. this
>does not take the original twist out of the cord. Then he gathers the
>cord using the same method as before and adds yet another twist to the cord.
>
>The solution is to wind the cord on a reel with a crank that is made for
>extension cords.

That is what I thought when the problem first started so I bought
him a reel with a crank. He uses the reel and he still twists the
cord.
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rlz

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Dec 1, 2012, 10:25:20 PM12/1/12
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Of course, the simple solution is to have him buy a gas lawn mower.
No more cord.... Problem solved.

micky

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Dec 1, 2012, 11:55:09 PM12/1/12
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:54:04 -0800, Daniel Prince
<neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.

I hope he gives the old one to Goodwill Industries. Lots of people
would be happy to have a twisted extension cord.

Stormin Mormon

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Dec 2, 2012, 7:26:49 AM12/2/12
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I think YOU need a MOTIVATIONAL speaker who PACES back and FORTH in the
manner OF A man who is MOWING the lawn. He should WALK the length of THE
ROOM and turn around, always IN the SAME direction of TURN, a COUPLE dozen
turns, each time he SPEAKS. He should SPEAK once a week, and each TIME roll
the MIC cord back ON the FLAT SPOOL. Do you think THAT the CORD would remain
UNTWISTED?

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Stormin Mormon

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Dec 2, 2012, 7:29:04 AM12/2/12
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When I had a telephone answering service, we had
one of the operators whose cord was always
twisted. Observing, I could see that each time she
answered the phone, she put another twist in the
cord. I tried to show her how to pick up the phone
and put it down without adding a twist, but she never
did get the picture. I got in the habit of twisting her
phone cord in the other direction each time I was there.

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Stormin Mormon

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Dec 2, 2012, 7:30:21 AM12/2/12
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Sell the twisted cord for the metal content?

I wondered how long till someone suggested a
gasoline mower. Can you imagine how twisted
his gasoline would be?

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Stormin Mormon

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Have you ever tried to untwist gasoline?

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DanG

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Dec 2, 2012, 8:52:02 AM12/2/12
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On 12/1/2012 4:54 PM, Daniel Prince wrote:
> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.
>


FORGET FLAT CORDS. They will twist much more than the round ones. I
don't think you will find any anymore as they are NOT acceptable by OSHA
standards.

I've tried chaining cords (not bad), reels (surprised he's having
problems with this), 5 gallon buckets, etc.

This is what I've tried the last 4 years. There is a special way to
roll up round cords. There is a bit of a learning curve involved, but
it is dead simple once you get it. I've made my guys use this method
and the cords are in great shape. It involves reversing the twist of
the cord every loop, it is demanded of anyone in the entertainment
business. There are plenty of youtube movies, but it would be even
better if you can get someone to show you:

Here are two explanations:
I understood the first one easier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6duVvwdd5F0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLwwB29uQRg



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John Grabowski

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Dec 2, 2012, 9:58:35 AM12/2/12
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>> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>>
>> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
>> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
>> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>>
>> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
>> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.
>
> Electricians use this method:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
>
> Looks a little ugly and bulky, but never tangles.


*I've used that technique for block and tackle ropes, but never for an
extension cord. Most round cords have a natural twist built-in as a result
of the manufacturing process. If one takes the time to feel the twist and
rotate the cord with their fingers, the cord can be coiled up like it was on
the reel from the factory. I also have a 3' piece of 1/4" cotton rope
knotted around at least one end of each cord to tie it up after it is
coiled. My helpers get this training on the first day of work and my cords
have been around for years.

I have one 12 gauge flat extension cord. It does seem to get less kink in
it, but it is more difficult to coil.

John Grabowski

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*Here's an example of the technique that I use: http://youtu.be/KYXn18mxQok

(PeteCresswell)

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Per DanG:
>I've made my guys use this method
>and the cords are in great shape. It involves reversing the twist of
>the cord every loop, it is demanded of anyone in the entertainment
>business. There are plenty of youtube movies, but it would be even
>better if you can get someone to show you:

I used to coil them the same way and uncoil them the same way.

Worked OK, but once I learned about reversing the twist at every
loop I changed over and never looked back.

One advantage of reversing the twist at every loop is that, with
a little practice, you can throw the package - holding one end -
and it lays out flat.

Works with rope too. I do it with the lines on my outrigger
canoe and just throw them out on the beach when I'm rigging.
--
Pete Cresswell

Danny D.

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Dec 2, 2012, 12:31:29 PM12/2/12
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On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:54:04 -0800, Daniel Prince wrote:

> The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They only
> last two or three years before he has to replace them.

I assume it twists when he wraps it up?

Sailors for centuries have been twisting the line
counterclockwise as they loop the line clockwise.

In addition, I assume the cord is detachable?

I would connect the male and female ends, and then
halve the length, doubling the cord over without any
twisting - until the bound length is about a foot or two.

Daniel Prince

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Dec 2, 2012, 1:30:20 PM12/2/12
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Even if the cord is so badly twisted that the insulation is pulled
off in places?

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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Dec 2, 2012, 3:13:25 PM12/2/12
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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 07:26:49 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>I think YOU need a MOTIVATIONAL speaker who PACES back and FORTH in the
>manner OF A man who is MOWING the lawn. He should WALK the length of THE
>ROOM and turn around, always IN the SAME direction of TURN, a COUPLE dozen
>turns, each time he SPEAKS. He should SPEAK once a week, and each TIME roll
>the MIC cord back ON the FLAT SPOOL. Do you think THAT the CORD would remain
>UNTWISTED?
>
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
. It does for me every week when I wind up the mic cord Sunday noon.
If someone else helps and does not take care, I need to take some
twists out when I uncoil the cord the next week. The secret is to take
it off exactly the way it was put on and to throw the loops when you
wind it up if it has gotten twisted in use.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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On Sun, 2 Dec 2012 07:29:04 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
<cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>When I had a telephone answering service, we had
>one of the operators whose cord was always
>twisted. Observing, I could see that each time she
>answered the phone, she put another twist in the
>cord. I tried to show her how to pick up the phone
>and put it down without adding a twist, but she never
>did get the picture. I got in the habit of twisting her
>phone cord in the other direction each time I was there.
>
>Christopher A. Young
>Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
>.

For coiled phone cords there is a simple device that lets the cord
swivel, almost totally eliminating the problem - for a couple of
bucks.

cl...@snyder.on.ca

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"figure eight" winding. Works great for garden hoses

Stormin Mormon

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The OP has a PERSON who does NOT take CARE when MOWING the lawn, and the
CORD gets TWISTED. Same IDEA.

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Stormin Mormon

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Such device was purchased, and did no good.

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Oren

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On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:54:04 -0800, Daniel Prince
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>Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
>from being twisted?

I have a 25' 12 GA cord for my worm drive saw made by Bosch.

"..It is very soft and very supple, more like rope than wire."

Temps from -40F to 120F+

It stays flexible with no twists or kinks.

A damn good cord...

grumpy

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"Daniel Prince" <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
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> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)

YES HUMAN HANDS
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.
> --
> When I am in the kitchen, I often kick one of my cat's balls.
> After I kick it, he will sometimes play with it for a few
> seconds to several minutes. His favorite are the ones that
> rattle. He'll play with any ball that makes noise.


Daniel Prince

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Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.

I have found some rotating electrical outlets on eBay. If I put one
of them in a box with a short power cord, would it reduce the amount
of twisting? I would make it so that the rotating electrical outlet
would face out rather than up. My brother would plug his extension
cord into the rotating electrical outlet and if we are lucky the
outlet would rotate instead of the cord twisting.

Vic Smith

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Dec 3, 2012, 5:40:29 AM12/3/12
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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 01:27:49 -0800, Daniel Prince
<neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:

>Daniel Prince <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
>I have found some rotating electrical outlets on eBay. If I put one
>of them in a box with a short power cord, would it reduce the amount
>of twisting? I would make it so that the rotating electrical outlet
>would face out rather than up. My brother would plug his extension
>cord into the rotating electrical outlet and if we are lucky the
>outlet would rotate instead of the cord twisting.

Won't work. The twist is on the ground and will never reach the
rotating outlet. A rotating adapter near the mower cord that hangs
off the ground would work. Haven't seen one.
This is really silly. The only way the cord can be set with a twist
is he doesn't remove the twist when stowing the cord.
It's not rocket science. You have to whip out the loops to get rid of
the twist before stowing.
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Vic Smith

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:36:47 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>
>I am careful to wrap and unwrap mine the same way every time and it
>looks new.

I can't recall seeing a badly twisted up electrical cord, and I've
seen plenty of cords. Probably forgot. You can see the hand to elbow
technique doesn't work first time you try it. It's fast, that's all.
You almost have to purposely reject common sense to get a cord all
twisted up.

Dan Espen

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Dec 3, 2012, 1:31:44 PM12/3/12
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Vic Smith <thismaila...@comcast.net> writes:

> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:36:47 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>
>>I am careful to wrap and unwrap mine the same way every time and it
>>looks new.
>
> I can't recall seeing a badly twisted up electrical cord, and I've
> seen plenty of cords. Probably forgot. You can see the hand to elbow
> technique doesn't work first time you try it. It's fast, that's all.

Keep your wrist straight. Works fine.

> You almost have to purposely reject common sense to get a cord all
> twisted up.

The OP's goal seems to be "looks new".

--
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DerbyDad03

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Dec 3, 2012, 1:55:17 PM12/3/12
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On Dec 3, 12:15 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
I have one 25' extension cord that I inherited from a organzation that
I am involved with. It needed both a plug and a socket so they just
bought a new cord and were about to toss the old one in the garbage. I
grabbed it and repaired it, but I rarely use it because of the "badly
twisted up" nature of it.

I think it was wound up via the hand to elbow method so many times
that the outer insulation is all screwed up. The extension cord is
kind of bumpy, like the internal wires are twisted or something. It's
the only cord I've ever seen in that condition. Maybe I'll take a
picture of it and post it.

Other than that one, I have more extensions cords than any homeowner
has to right to own! Right now I'm using three cords for my christmas
lights and I still have more than enough for any projects that I might
need to work on. I've still got three in the garage, a couple in the
shed and one or two in my workshop. I'm not sure where they all came
from, but I can't resist a good extension cord deal at a garage sale
and have no problem accepting a broken cord if all it needs is a plug
or socket.

I've got a 40' 12g and a 10' 12g than came from some rich guy that
threw out a 50' cord - on a reel - because he cut the cord about 10'
from the end. For the price of a plug and socket, I ended up with 2
practically brand new cords that I've been using for more than 10
years. When my son was a teenager doing odd jobs, he was helping some
guy clean out his garage. When the guy said to throw out the cord, my
son knew a good deal when he saw it. He put it on the side of the junk
pile and then put it in my car when I came to pick him up. Smart kid!
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DerbyDad03

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On Dec 3, 2:30 pm, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:15:57 -0600, Vic Smith
>
> <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Here they are

> http://gfretwell.com/electrical/cords.jpg

That one on the right is more or less like the one I described in my
previous post. I can still roll mine into a circle, like the one on
the left, but you can see how the outer jacket of the one on the right
is twisted, causing permanent ripples in the cord.

It's just plain ugly!

P.S. Thanks for saving me the trouble of taking a picture of mine. ;-)

Stormin Mormon

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Eek! You sure can tell which one is which.

Thank you for taking the effort to photo, and
post the photo.

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I am careful to wrap and unwrap mine
the same way every time and it
looks new.


Oren

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On Mon, 3 Dec 2012 21:50:42 -0500, "grumpy" <t.s...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
>> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
>> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
>YES HUMAN HANDS
>>

_Loop Di Loop Your Power Cord _

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QSjvzBvdGs>

Metspitzer

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:15:57 -0600, Vic Smith
If I ever fall out of an airplane, I hope I have a drop cord with me.
It is going to hang on something.

Vic Smith

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 14:30:21 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>
>Here they are
>http://gfretwell.com/electrical/cords.jpg

Wow. Why doesn't she throw hers away and just use yours?
You keep it locked up?
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"Daniel Prince" <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
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> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> Is there some type of cord or an adapter that will prevent the cord
> from being twisted? (I have seen adapters that claim to prevent
> telephone handset cords from being twisted.)
>
> My brother thinks that a flat cord might last longer than a round
> cord. Is this true? Thank you in advance for any help.

The way you store a cord is the secret. There is a coiling method where you
take one loop in one direction, and another loop in the other, and when you
pull on the end, it comes off with absolutely no spiral. I can take 100' of
wire rope, and coil it using this method, and with one person holding one
end, and another person holding the other, pull it straight, and there will
be absolutely no spiral to twist either person's hand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxhjzFMKiM

The other way is to figure 8 it laying on the ground. It will have no
coiling to it. Trouble is, storing the figure 8. It can be laid on the
ground, or three pieces of cordage used to tie it, one in the middle, and
one on each end. We used to loop 600' lengths of diving hose using the
figure 8 method. It lets the line pay out easily, too, as only the top loop
comes off each time. It MUST be tied after the figure 8 stacking to keep it
from tangling.

The coil method works well in conjunction with a metal tire wheel on a post.
Weld the wheel about four feet off the ground. Make big loops that come
down to about four inches from the ground. It is easy to pull one coil off
at a time.

Steve


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<gfre...@aol.com> wrote

> I am careful to wrap and unwrap mine the same way every time and it
> looks new.

If you use the one over one under system, you can tell if the cord/wire has
a little extra twist to it, and correct it before adding that loop to the
rest of the bundle. As gf, I have electrical lines, and cordage that has
been around a very long time, and looks fine. I have also seen guys go
through a cord or a long piece of rope in one season.

And not to mention the fun of untangling a 250 ft. piece of anything.

Steve


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"Steve B" <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:

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>"Daniel Prince" <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>> electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>> only last two or three years before he has to replace them.

>The way you store a cord is the secret.

He uses a cord reel that looks like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orange-Extension-Cord-Reel-Wheel-No-KW-130-/330771695936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d03878940

Except that it is yellow instead of orange. Could using this type
of cord reel cause a cord to become VERY twisted in a few years?

Stormin Mormon

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I remember that www.tinypic.com might have free hosting. Typed that by
memory, so I'm probably mistaken.

"Am I my brother's extension cord keeper?"
Paraphrasing Cain. http://bible.cc/genesis/4-9.htm

Christopher A. Young
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I think my brother's cord is about four times as twisted as the one
on the right. If I take a picture of it, what free photo sharing
site can I use?

Steve B

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"Daniel Prince" <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote

> He uses a cord reel that looks like this:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orange-Extension-Cord-Reel-Wheel-No-KW-130-/330771695936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d03878940
>
> Except that it is yellow instead of orange. Could using this type
> of cord reel cause a cord to become VERY twisted in a few years?

Go take yer meds.


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On Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:31:29 PM UTC-5, Danny D. wrote:
> On Sat, 01 Dec 2012 14:54:04 -0800, Daniel Prince wrote:
> > The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They only
> > last two or three years before he has to replace them.
>
> I assume it twists when he wraps it up?

Doubt it.

He twists it up when he starts at one corner of the lawn and mows around and around and around until he gets to the middle.

Every round puts another twist in the cord.

If he starts at one edge, mows back and forth, turn left at one end, then turn right at the other, then he will NOT twist the cord.

The simplest solution is to untwist the cord after every mowing session, but it sounds like this guy ain't all that bright...

denni...@gmail.com

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On Monday, December 3, 2012 12:15:57 PM UTC-5, Vic Smith wrote:
> You can see the hand to elbow
> technique doesn't work first time you try it. It's fast, that's all.

People who arm-wind cords are the lowest form of life on the planet.

> You almost have to purposely reject common sense to get a cord all
> twisted up.

Yes, you do. Then you need some expensive overcomplicated contrivance of a contraption that doesn't exist to address a trivial problem that could be easily solved with a slight change in behavior.

Oh, but there are 1000 excuses why he can't just untwist the damn cord before he winds it up. He probably blames the cords, calls them junk.
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Top posting arm winder, reporting!

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k...@at.biz

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On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 11:36:47 -0500, gfre...@aol.com wrote:

>I have 2 identical cords here, one is mine, one is my wife;'s. Hers is
>twisted up so bad it is virtually unusable. She does it by wrapping
>around her arm (hand to elbow) then pulling it straight out.
>
>I am careful to wrap and unwrap mine the same way every time and it
>looks new.

I wrap my cords around my hand/elbow, but I'm careful to leave the
opposite end straight away from me and unplugged. This allows the end
to turn as I'm 'winding" it up, removing almost all of the twist. I
do hoses in a similar fashion, winding them on the hangar with the
opposite end free to twist.

Steve B

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<gfre...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 03 Dec 2012 22:29:50 -0800, Daniel Prince
> <neut...@ca.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>He uses a cord reel that looks like this:
>>
>>http://www.ebay.com/itm/Orange-Extension-Cord-Reel-Wheel-No-KW-130-/330771695936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d03878940
>>
>>Except that it is yellow instead of orange. Could using this type
>>of cord reel cause a cord to become VERY twisted in a few years?
>>--
>
> It will become very twisted if he spools it up by turning the spool
> and then just pulls it over the edge of the spool instead of
> unspooling it.
> That is the problem with this type of spool

And also why I do not own any reels, spools, etc, and have no problems with
storage of cordage or electricital cords. The world of home repairs is
awash with gizmos to do things that a lot of people do not have the common
sense or intelligence to do themselves.

Steve


gregz

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Can't say I have problems with cords, just use a little common sense. I
can't use a cord if I has a knot. I got to untangle others messes.

I got to check out my Xmas light run to back yard. About 200 feet of cheap
cords. The cords remain out all year. Got to check for deer issues. Warm
today, but busy. I usually go for freezing cold, wet, or snowing weather to
check things out.

Greg

bob

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>My brother uses a 100 foot long, 12 gage, extension cord with his
>electric lawn mower. The cord always becomes VERY twisted. They
>only last two or three years before he has to replace them.


This is not rocket science. He just needs to observe when and how it got
twisted and undo that move.
But some people prefers to fix old things, and some prefers to buy new ones.
Let him choose.

It seems a little wasteful, but nothing compared to people who buys a new
computer when the old one got infected.

Steve B

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> This is not rocket science. He just needs to observe when and how it got
> twisted and undo that move.
> But some people prefers to fix old things, and some prefers to buy new
> ones.
Was helping my pastor move. I noticed an almost new 100' extension cord
about as round as your finger in the trash can. Heavy duty. It had a slice
about three feet from one end. "Can I have this?" .......... "Sure." $7
for a repair. Nice cord.

Some people.

Steve


Stormin Mormon

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You screwed over a priest? Huh?

A Christian would have put a plug on, and give the cord back.

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Smitty Two

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In article <CXUvs.19716$Vv3....@fe31.iad>,
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> You screwed over a priest? Huh?
>
> A Christian would have put a plug on, and give the cord back.

Which Christian would that be, Chris? The same one who complains about
letting a fellow Christian into a storeroom at the church, because the
fellow mistakenly assumed that the "master" key didn't fit that
particular lock?

Stormin Mormon

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Who might that be?

Slightly similar to the Christian who asked some
ideas to know when to help versus decline. I don't
remember reading of anyone complaining about
that kind of thing. You'll have to remind me.
Be specific, please.

Christopher A. Young
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Smitty Two

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In article <Uy3ws.7123$ev1....@fe26.iad>,
"Stormin Mormon" <cayoung61***spam...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Who might that be?
>
> Slightly similar to the Christian who asked some
> ideas to know when to help versus decline. I don't
> remember reading of anyone complaining about
> that kind of thing. You'll have to remind me.
> Be specific, please.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .


I see you as a harmless enough buffoon, Chris, who leads a modestly
miserable life. But your top-posting constitutes a huge "FUCK YOU" to
everyone else in the room, who have agreed to a workable and logical
bottom-posting convention. It's a passive-aggressive act of violence,
and only one of many examples of your behavior that rarely reflect any
christian values.
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