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Re-Roof with Tear Off - How Much Mess Inside Attic?

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DerbyDad03

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Mar 23, 2012, 3:01:44 PM3/23/12
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I'm pretty sure that I know the answer to this question, but I'll ask
anyway. I'm sure a lively discussion will ensue.

How dirty does an unfinished attic get when they roof a house,
including a tearoff?

Sheathing is 1 x 6 tongue & groove, not plywood. I'm not expecting any
wood to need to be replaced, but I might be unpleasantly surprised.

If you had anything stored in the attic, would you move it out first
to avoid it getting coated with dust?

gonjah

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Mar 23, 2012, 3:27:37 PM3/23/12
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On 3/23/2012 2:01 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that I know the answer to this question, but I'll ask
> anyway. I'm sure a lively discussion will ensue.
>
> How dirty does an unfinished attic get when they roof a house,
> including a tearoff?
>
> Sheathing is 1 x 6 tongue& groove, not plywood. I'm not expecting any
> wood to need to be replaced, but I might be unpleasantly surprised.
>
> If you had anything stored in the attic, would you move it out first
> to avoid it getting coated with dust?


I didn't notice much of a mess.

Around here storing stuff in the attic isn't a good idea. More stuff to
heat up and block air flow. I'm in the middle of pulling all the stuff
out of my attic.

My new policy is: if I'm considering putting it in the attic I put it in
the trash. YMMV

DerbyDad03

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Mar 23, 2012, 3:43:14 PM3/23/12
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Yeah...I kind of figured that "storage" would come up as part of the
discussion, but trashing the things that are up there - or storing
them some place else - is not an option right now, so I'd like to
limit the discussion to the "dirty" question if at all possible.

gonjah

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Mar 23, 2012, 3:50:12 PM3/23/12
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I hear you. I'm using 1/2 of my garage for storage now. :(

All I noticed was a little dust and chips of wood from the new nails. We
replaced some plywood but not over where we stored stuff.

DerbyDad03

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Mar 23, 2012, 4:00:23 PM3/23/12
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> replaced some plywood but not over where we stored stuff.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

If the dust is minimal, I might consider covering everything with
cheap drop cloths and then carefully folding them up afterwards.

However, if there is going to be a lot of dust, I'd just as soon
remove it all and force SWMBO and I to honestly go through it before
putting it back up.

Maybe I should just tell SWMBO that it's going to be a complete mess
and that we have to clear it out. ;-)

Bob F

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Mar 23, 2012, 4:47:47 PM3/23/12
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My old house had skip sheathing, with a significant gap between boards. When
re-roofed, a lot of ugly dust, roofing, and old shake chunks ended up in the
roof. Fortunately, I had laid down plastic over all the insulation. I rolled
that up after the job, and removed it with the enclosed junk.

Even with lapping tounge and grove, you can count on a big mess.


Robert Macy

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Mar 23, 2012, 4:49:33 PM3/23/12
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Second the drop cloths idea. Painter's plastic drop cloths be fastest.

Reed

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:14:17 PM3/23/12
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On 3/23/12 3:01 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> I'm pretty sure that I know the answer to this question, but I'll ask
> anyway. I'm sure a lively discussion will ensue.
>
> How dirty does an unfinished attic get when they roof a house,
> including a tearoff?
>
> Sheathing is 1 x 6 tongue& groove, not plywood. I'm not expecting any
> wood to need to be replaced, but I might be unpleasantly surprised.
>
> If you had anything stored in the attic, would you move it out first
> to avoid it getting coated with dust?

In addition to comments on dust etc, be sure to take down anything
that might be shaken loose, or vibrate off a shelf. Pictures, knick
knacks, anything wall mounted, etc. I overlooked the plastic insert in
large kitchen fluorescent light fixture. It shook out and broke when
it hit floor.

Also, in my case, the installers cut in 2 new roof jack vents in the
unheated unfinished attached garage area. None there previous 40 years
!! Said later it was "required by warranty on shingles". That left a
small mess in garage as it was not open during install.

Tomsic

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:36:10 PM3/23/12
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"DerbyDad03" <teama...@eznet.net> wrote in message
news:99ba6911-1d44-4e36...@i2g2000vbv.googlegroups.com...
Tearing off an asphalt shingle roof is one of the dirtiest jobs around. The
bits of shingle sift through any cracks -- and don't forget the roof vents.
I covered the stuff in the attic with plastic sheeting when I had it done
(standard roof boards, not tongue and groove) and later gave up trying to
clean up all of the mess. Now, I just clean the stuff as I get it out of
the attic.

Tomsic


JIMMIE

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Mar 23, 2012, 5:47:54 PM3/23/12
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When I had my roof done I wasnt expecting any significant amount of crud getting in my attic but enough did to clog up my HVAC drain pan.

Jimmie

Sonny

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Mar 23, 2012, 6:42:38 PM3/23/12
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Drape your goods in the attic.

> I'm not expecting any wood to need to be replaced, but I might be unpleasantly surprised.

Yep, sure as shootin. You better be prepared to fix any bad roof
decking, if the roofers aren't required to do those fixings. There is
usually always something that needs fixing, especially old T&G
decking. Some worker just may step on a weak board, or boards, and
punch through. Also, have some 2X4s or 2X6s and nails handy, to
sister along any roof rafters, for conveniently replacing any
decking. Be prepared to fix anything as that. If there ends up to be
nothing to fix, I wouldn't think you would have invested too much
expense for the preparedness. You don't have to replace/repair the
decking with T&G, plywood is fine.

Check from the attic side to see if you can spot any rotting or water
leak areas, especially around any vents, chimney, etc. When the
roofing material is off, go stomp on any questionable/suspicious areas
and repair, if needed.

Sonny

Bob F

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Mar 23, 2012, 8:28:05 PM3/23/12
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I used 4 mil plastic, and was glad I did.


tange...@toyotamail.com

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Mar 23, 2012, 10:08:02 PM3/23/12
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My parents house was re-roofed years ago. At that time I had some stuff
stored in their attic. The old roofing had to be stripped. The wood
was all good. The professional company did an excellent job on the
roof, but that attic was a real mess inside. Everything I had stored in
there was covered with that grit from the shingles plus nails, pieces of
shingles, tar paper and dirt. I'd suggest covering everything or
removing it and laying down tarps or paper sheets. A lumber yard or
carpet store might have some plastic lumber tarps to five away for free,
or paper/plastic carpet roll wrappings.

Larry Fishel

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Mar 24, 2012, 1:19:41 PM3/24/12
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Another "not really what you asked", but personally, depending on
where you live, I might be more concerned about the possibility of
unexpected rain (though I suspect the stuff in the attic will be the
least of your worries then)... Just a thought...

I assume any respectable roofers are going to bring tarps just in
case, but that could be too late for stuff in the attic...

Robert Green

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Mar 25, 2012, 11:40:27 PM3/25/12
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"Larry Fishel" <ldfi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My experience has been if you want to end a long drought, arrange to have
your roof torn off. In the last two times I have done it, the weather
suddenly turned bad. Fortunately, my roofers had plenty of blue poly
tarping around.

--
Bobby G.


denni...@gmail.com

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Mar 26, 2012, 11:11:33 AM3/26/12
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On Friday, March 23, 2012 3:43:14 PM UTC-4, DerbyDad03 wrote:
> Yeah...I kind of figured that "storage" would come up as part of the
> discussion, but trashing the things that are up there - or storing
> them some place else - is not an option right now, so I'd like to
> limit the discussion to the "dirty" question if at all possible.

If trashing the items in the attic, or storing them somewhere else is not an option, then why are you asking the question?

With those self-imposed limitations, it is inevitable that the items in the attic are going to get absolutely plastered with construction debris.

How much really depends on how dirty it is up there. Everything that's stuck to the underside of the sheathing (i.e. dust, cobwebs, etc) will get knocked down.

Bryan Scholtes

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Mar 26, 2012, 2:33:02 PM3/26/12
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I left my convertible top down in the garage when this happened. Small
chips of wood and pine fragments. A fast drive blew most of it out. It
wasn't that much. Probably about a year's worth of dust.

DerbyDad03

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Mar 26, 2012, 3:12:35 PM3/26/12
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You misunderstood my meaning of "storing them somewhere else" not
being an option - and understandably so.

That response was related to the poster who said "Around here storing
stuff in the attic isn't a good idea".

What I meant was that *long term* storage of the items someplace else
wasn't an option. I certainly have room to remove them from the attic
during the re-roof (a spare bedroom, for example) but I certainly
wouldn't want them to remain there once the roof was done.

donnalouise

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May 22, 2015, 9:44:06 AM5/22/15
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replying to DerbyDad03 , donnalouise wrote:
> teamarrows wrote:
>
> an option, then why are you asking the question?
> he attic are going to get absolutely plastered with construction debris.
> uck to the underside of the sheathing (i.e. dust, cobwebs, etc) will get
kn=
> ocked down.
> You misunderstood my meaning of "storing them somewhere else" not
> being an option - and understandably so.
> That response was related to the poster who said "Around here storing
> stuff in the attic isn't a good idea".
> What I meant was that *long term* storage of the items someplace else
> wasn't an option. I certainly have room to remove them from the attic
> during the re-roof (a spare bedroom, for example) but I certainly
> wouldn't want them to remain there once the roof was done.



Don't ya just love it when you start a smple easy question and people
answer you with things that have absolutely nothing to do with your
original post? A lot of people who work in customer service use this
tactic (trying to diffuse the situation... but it just makes it worse)
They do it because they don't know the answer to your question, but
they're not going to let them miss a chance to voice their unwanted
opinion. I used to get angry with people like that, now I just chuckle
about it. Smile & nod!


--


trader_4

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May 22, 2015, 10:02:03 AM5/22/15
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On Friday, May 22, 2015 at 9:44:06 AM UTC-4, donnalouise wrote:

>
>
>
> Don't ya just love it when you start a smple easy question and people
> answer you with things that have absolutely nothing to do with your
> original post? A lot of people who work in customer service use this
> tactic (trying to diffuse the situation... but it just makes it worse)
> They do it because they don't know the answer to your question, but
> they're not going to let them miss a chance to voice their unwanted
> opinion. I used to get angry with people like that, now I just chuckle
> about it. Smile & nod!
>
>
> --

Don't ya love it when people answer 13 year old threads?

bob_villa

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May 22, 2015, 10:32:26 AM5/22/15
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...or when they can't subtract? *L*

Bob F

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May 22, 2015, 10:58:03 AM5/22/15
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Or when they don't quote the origional thread thay are talking about the
previous response not fitting.


bob_villa

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May 22, 2015, 11:03:07 AM5/22/15
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...or can't use spell-check?

ItsJoanNotJoann

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May 22, 2015, 11:15:29 AM5/22/15
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Blame it on 'donnalouise.' A troll who'll never post again.

Jon Danniken

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May 22, 2015, 5:05:25 PM5/22/15
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On 05/22/2015 08:15 AM, ItsJoanNotJoann wrote:
>
> Blame it on 'donnalouise.' A troll who'll never post again.

If people didn't feed the trolls, they would go away. As it is, they
always get a reply, which perpetuates the cycle.

Jon

ItsJoanNotJoann

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May 22, 2015, 6:04:00 PM5/22/15
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Pull up a chair, there's plenty of room at the table for the feeding
frenzy.

micky

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May 22, 2015, 7:03:45 PM5/22/15
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On Fri, 22 May 2015 13:44:02 +0000, donnalouise
<caedfaa9ed1216d60e...@example.com> wrote:

>replying to DerbyDad03 , donnalouise wrote:
>> teamarrows wrote:
>>
>> an option, then why are you asking the question?
>> he attic are going to get absolutely plastered with construction debris.
>> uck to the underside of the sheathing (i.e. dust, cobwebs, etc) will get
>kn=
>> ocked down.
>> You misunderstood my meaning of "storing them somewhere else" not
>> being an option - and understandably so.
>> That response was related to the poster who said "Around here storing
>> stuff in the attic isn't a good idea".
>> What I meant was that *long term* storage of the items someplace else
>> wasn't an option. I certainly have room to remove them from the attic
>> during the re-roof (a spare bedroom, for example) but I certainly
>> wouldn't want them to remain there once the roof was done.
>
>
>
>Don't ya just love it when you start a smple easy question and people
>answer you with things that have absolutely nothing to do with your
>original post?

Shakespeare commented on that. "Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
outgrabed the topic." "Whither art thou, tove. I am but a nightengale
and you owe me money." .

Tony Hwang

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May 22, 2015, 7:21:25 PM5/22/15
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Another way to drive away troll is sending him mail bomb if email
address is known(some times.)
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