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Guv Bob
Jun 10, 2014, 12:02:45 PM6/10/14
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For patching small areas, is it best to just stucco it with no color and then plan on painting over it? I have added color a couple of times and it's close, but never close enough that I don't have to paint over it. Feathering the stucco out is good enough for me, but does not pass for the in-house inspector/wife.
Oren
Jun 10, 2014, 12:27:51 PM6/10/14
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:04:12 -0800, "Guv Bob"
<guvbo...@yahooooooooooooooo.com> wrote:
>For patching small areas, is it best to just stucco it with no color and then plan on painting over it? I have added color a couple of times and it's close, but never close enough that I don't have to paint over it. Feathering the stucco out is good enough for me, but does not pass for the in-house inspector/wife.
Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
<guvbo...@yahooooooooooooooo.com> wrote:
>For patching small areas, is it best to just stucco it with no color and then plan on painting over it? I have added color a couple of times and it's close, but never close enough that I don't have to paint over it. Feathering the stucco out is good enough for me, but does not pass for the in-house inspector/wife.
consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
a mismatch and very obvious. The solution was to paint with an
elastomeric / stucco paint. I use the Behr elastomeric paint. Other
brands are available.
Tony Hwang
Jun 10, 2014, 1:48:08 PM6/10/14
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I had to make a square hole cut out on a gaarae wall to install exhaust
fan controlled by temperature. After I tried to patch stucco around the
the openings I made. Dated worn stucco color was impossible to match.
The more I try the worse it got. I gave up, LOL!
Oren
Jun 10, 2014, 2:08:02 PM6/10/14
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2014 11:48:08 -0600, Tony Hwang <drag...@shaw.ca>
wrote:
>> Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>> consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>> a mismatch and very obvious. The solution was to paint with an
>> elastomeric / stucco paint. I use the Behr elastomeric paint. Other
>> brands are available.
>>
>Hi,
>I had to make a square hole cut out on a gaarae wall to install exhaust
>fan controlled by temperature. After I tried to patch stucco around the
>the openings I made. Dated worn stucco color was impossible to match.
>The more I try the worse it got. I gave up, LOL!
I've seen some stucco ceiling repairs under a patio roof you could not
tell it was repaired. When Bubba and I built my patio roof cover
(Spanish tile roof) I was able to match the elostomeric paint
perfectly to the house (ceiling, columns, etc). You cannot tell that
the construction is not original to the house. I pulled the TV cable
box access cover off and took it in for matching the color. I've not
seen a good repair using a dye mix. To difficult to get even close.
Seems each lot of dye mix is different, unless the lot numbers match.
Mixing it is another story.
wrote:
>> Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>> consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>> a mismatch and very obvious. The solution was to paint with an
>> elastomeric / stucco paint. I use the Behr elastomeric paint. Other
>> brands are available.
>>
>Hi,
>I had to make a square hole cut out on a gaarae wall to install exhaust
>fan controlled by temperature. After I tried to patch stucco around the
>the openings I made. Dated worn stucco color was impossible to match.
>The more I try the worse it got. I gave up, LOL!
tell it was repaired. When Bubba and I built my patio roof cover
(Spanish tile roof) I was able to match the elostomeric paint
perfectly to the house (ceiling, columns, etc). You cannot tell that
the construction is not original to the house. I pulled the TV cable
box access cover off and took it in for matching the color. I've not
seen a good repair using a dye mix. To difficult to get even close.
Seems each lot of dye mix is different, unless the lot numbers match.
Mixing it is another story.
Guv Bob
Jun 13, 2014, 3:22:10 AM6/13/14
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"Oren" <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:flhep9p0hfhmng10m...@4ax.com...
Thanks, fellers. I'll take the easy way out, use plain stucco and then color match with paint. I did this before with some really small patches and HDepot did a good job matching the color. Last time the stucco was done was over 20 years ago and still mostly OK. I liked the idea of coloring the stucco to avoid having to repaint later, but looks like it's not practical for an amateur like me.
Now I'm practicing matching the texture. It was put down in 2 layers. First layer has swirls (sand swirl) like this...
http://www.drywallschool.com/swirl.JPG
The 2nd layer is a knockdown pattern kind of like this...
http://www.extremehowto.com/wp-content/uploads/hotprod_images/knockd6.jpg
Whoever dreamed up the knockdown style ought to have his balls shot off at high noon. Besides being impossible to duplicate, the rough texture is a magnet for dirt and bugs.
Now I'm practicing matching the texture. It was put down in 2 layers. First layer has swirls (sand swirl) like this...
http://www.drywallschool.com/swirl.JPG
The 2nd layer is a knockdown pattern kind of like this...
http://www.extremehowto.com/wp-content/uploads/hotprod_images/knockd6.jpg
Whoever dreamed up the knockdown style ought to have his balls shot off at high noon. Besides being impossible to duplicate, the rough texture is a magnet for dirt and bugs.
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Oren
Jun 13, 2014, 1:10:35 PM6/13/14
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living can match most any texture easily. I've read the trick for the
heavy knockdown texture is to apply it, let it cure awhile and then
come back and knock some off - even that takes practice. The guys that
did my stucco work for the patio, matched the house very well. Looks
like the patio cover is part of the original work. (3 coat stucco)
You're correct about the rough texture collecting dust and dirt.
Before painting, take extra time and effort to do a good wash. Wash
from the top down for best results. Let it dry a few days.
Tekkie®
Jun 13, 2014, 10:24:35 PM6/13/14
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gfre...@aol.com posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:23:27 -0800, "Guv Bob"
> <guvbo...@yahooooooooooooooo.com> wrote:
>
> >Whoever dreamed up the knockdown style ought to have his balls shot off at high noon. Besides being impossible to duplicate, the rough texture is a magnet for dirt and bugs.
> >
>
> Every guy does knockdown a little different and you can usually figure
> out who did it after you get used to their work. I agree, it is almost
> impossible to duplicate.
> I think the problem is it is harder to find people who can make it
> smooth. The old "plaster" guys are all dead.
Isn't that a shame? A lot of trades going by the wayside. Guy I knew was
always busy because he was one of the few left...
--
Tekkie
And I know how to SNIP
>
> On Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:23:27 -0800, "Guv Bob"
> <guvbo...@yahooooooooooooooo.com> wrote:
>
> >Whoever dreamed up the knockdown style ought to have his balls shot off at high noon. Besides being impossible to duplicate, the rough texture is a magnet for dirt and bugs.
> >
>
> out who did it after you get used to their work. I agree, it is almost
> impossible to duplicate.
> I think the problem is it is harder to find people who can make it
> smooth. The old "plaster" guys are all dead.
Isn't that a shame? A lot of trades going by the wayside. Guy I knew was
always busy because he was one of the few left...
--
Tekkie
Arthur Conan Doyle
Jun 17, 2014, 7:53:09 AM6/17/14
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Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>a mismatch and very obvious.
That's been my experience as well.
>Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>a mismatch and very obvious.
>The solution was to paint with an
>elastomeric / stucco paint. I use the Behr elastomeric paint. Other
>brands are available.
trapping moisture behind the stucco is very high. Better to consider something
like this:
http://www.elrey.com/literature/fog_kote.pdf
Keep in mind you don't have to cover the entire house. As long as you get
reasonably close to the original color all you need to do is the repaired
section of wall to the corners.
Oren
Jun 17, 2014, 3:09:02 PM6/17/14
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 05:53:09 -0600, Arthur Conan Doyle
<do...@bother.com> wrote:
>Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>>consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>>a mismatch and very obvious.
>
>That's been my experience as well.
>
Concrete dye works easily in large batches. Usually in colored -
<do...@bother.com> wrote:
>Oren <Or...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
>
>>Adding dye mix to stucco mix is a difficult task, trying to get a
>>consistent color. I've seen a house done and the finish was basically
>>a mismatch and very obvious.
>
>That's been my experience as well.
>
stamped concrete pads. Houses I've seen trying a dye mix was a few
bags at a time. The color never matched from batch to batch.
>>The solution was to paint with an
>>elastomeric / stucco paint. I use the Behr elastomeric paint. Other
>>brands are available.
>
>I'm very reluctant to use any kind of paint over stucco as the chances of
>trapping moisture behind the stucco is very high. Better to consider something
>like this:
>
also have a weep screed on the bottom of the wall. Water never
collects due to sealing the porous stucco with elastomeric paint and
having a method of drainage behind it. We get <> 4 inches of rain a
year so water it is not a concern.
>http://www.elrey.com/literature/fog_kote.pdf
>
>Keep in mind you don't have to cover the entire house. As long as you get
>reasonably close to the original color all you need to do is the repaired
>section of wall to the corners.
ceramic coating. They promise unicorns and rainbows, living in utopia
ever after. Two thirds of my stucco is original paint. Exactly matches
the back side after I added a patio roof cover (it looks like original
construction).
Tekkie®
Jun 17, 2014, 7:04:18 PM6/17/14
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Oren posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
--
Tekkie
And I know how to SNIP
> Before painting, take extra time and effort to do a good wash. Wash
> from the top down for best results. Let it dry a few days.
>
Do you recommend "air fluff"?
> from the top down for best results. Let it dry a few days.
>
--
Tekkie
Tekkie®
Jun 17, 2014, 7:19:39 PM6/17/14
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Oren posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
> fog kote
And I know how to SNIP
>
Is that the stuff they spray unruly prisoners with? Oh, thats OC!
Do you need an inspection done? I would be glad to do it!
Your place sounds like a palace compared to my dump.
Please forward addy and funds.
--
Tekkie
Oren
Jun 18, 2014, 3:35:38 PM6/18/14
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On Tue, 17 Jun 2014 19:19:39 -0400, Tekkie� <Tek...@comcast.net>
wrote:
>Do you need an inspection done? I would be glad to do it!
>
>Your place sounds like a palace compared to my dump.
>
>Please forward addy and funds.
We have a humble single story house for two old folks. Live on a
street full of guns and enjoy our ole' fart's pool. Life is good. Oh,
and a very well built house, too. And. My dog doesn't bark.
wrote:
>Do you need an inspection done? I would be glad to do it!
>
>Your place sounds like a palace compared to my dump.
>
>Please forward addy and funds.
street full of guns and enjoy our ole' fart's pool. Life is good. Oh,
and a very well built house, too. And. My dog doesn't bark.
Tekkie®
Jun 18, 2014, 8:04:02 PM6/18/14
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Oren posted for all of us...
And I know how to SNIP
>
And I know how to SNIP
>
and see whatyagot and make a determination. We can go shooting (not at each
other) bond and I can welch off you...
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Tekkie
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