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What do you recommend for coating/selaing rocks on side of house?
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Robert Macy
Nov 12, 2012, 8:42:29 PM11/12/12
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On the outside of our Tuscan style home there is stonework that looks
like 'wainscoating'. The stones are varied in color and only extend up
around 3 feet or so with recessed mortaring.
Being multiple colored all variation is lost with sun and dust on
them. As I washed the walls to prep for painting, I discovered that
when these rocks are wet, they look a lot better. So the question WHAT
is the best clear coating to put on them to keep them looking wet?
Keep in mind here in Arizona the sun is merciless and the heat can
easily get surface temperatures above 140F and still does freeze
here.
My first thought was to use something like was used on the travertine
flooring, but that's interior. Need to be robust for exterior.
like 'wainscoating'. The stones are varied in color and only extend up
around 3 feet or so with recessed mortaring.
Being multiple colored all variation is lost with sun and dust on
them. As I washed the walls to prep for painting, I discovered that
when these rocks are wet, they look a lot better. So the question WHAT
is the best clear coating to put on them to keep them looking wet?
Keep in mind here in Arizona the sun is merciless and the heat can
easily get surface temperatures above 140F and still does freeze
here.
My first thought was to use something like was used on the travertine
flooring, but that's interior. Need to be robust for exterior.
Oren
Nov 12, 2012, 10:05:47 PM11/12/12
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house in Nevada.
You could regret ever trying to seal the "rocks". Rocks are natural,
dirty or not.
dadiOH
Nov 13, 2012, 8:09:40 AM11/13/12
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Robert Macy
Nov 13, 2012, 10:18:13 AM11/13/12
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On Nov 12, 8:05 pm, Oren <O...@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:42:29 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 17:42:29 -0800 (PST), Robert Macy
>
But, after seeing what they look like wet vs the extremely drab washed
out look...
Robert Macy
Nov 13, 2012, 10:33:09 AM11/13/12
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it.
tra...@optonline.net
Nov 13, 2012, 10:39:03 AM11/13/12
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I was thinking of similar sealers. I used KureNSeal 30 on my
stamped concrete. It gives it a wet look and lasts 2- 3 years.
It's solvent based, you can't buy it in all states.
I have not been impressed with any of the water based
sealers.
http://www.concretesupplyhouse.com/concrete-sealer/basf/-sonneborn---kure-and-seal-30-concrete-sealer---30pct-solids---5-gallon_1997.shtml?gclid=CI357aOjzLMCFQ-f4Aod92MAbA
chaniarts
Nov 13, 2012, 2:48:23 PM11/13/12
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it also may be hard to get off or prep the surface for recoating. i'd
recommend not coating them, but perhaps a powerwash every so often instead.
regards,
charlie
cave creek, az
gpsman
Nov 13, 2012, 3:35:27 PM11/13/12
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On Nov 12, 8:42 pm, Robert Macy <robert.a.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> WHAT
> is the best clear coating to put on them to keep them looking wet?
I would get a sixer of decent beer, probably "Dogfishhead 90 Minute
> WHAT
> is the best clear coating to put on them to keep them looking wet?
IPA", and go golfing and see if it still bothered me enough when I got
home to fuck with it instead of drinking more beer.
How long do you plan to live...?
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- gpsman
Robert Macy
Nov 14, 2012, 10:10:47 AM11/14/12
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look incredible. As they dry, the look goes right back to that washed
out, nondescript color of nothing.
Robert Macy
Nov 14, 2012, 10:11:34 AM11/14/12
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Robert Macy
Nov 14, 2012, 10:33:39 AM11/14/12
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On Nov 13, 8:39 am, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
wrote:
> http://www.concretesupplyhouse.com/concrete-sealer/basf/-sonneborn---...
Thanks for the recommendation, and the URL. It looks like they ship to
Arizona.
Is this URL the lowest price, including shipping?
wrote:
Thanks for the recommendation, and the URL. It looks like they ship to
Arizona.
Is this URL the lowest price, including shipping?
Message has been deleted
tra...@optonline.net
Nov 15, 2012, 7:56:27 AM11/15/12
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I don't know current pricing and just did a quick google
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to find the product for you. I think when I bought it a
couple years ago, I found it on sale for like $90. Howver,
that kind of price was a real find. The stuff is expensive.
Robert Macy
Nov 15, 2012, 8:50:50 AM11/15/12
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On Nov 15, 5:56 am, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
I called them to find out that the product will last two years and can
be applied with 3/bin roller.
Home Depot's Wet Look is water based, lasts 1 year and is recommended
to be applied with a 'bug' sprayer.
ARRRRGGG! both roller and sprayer splatter like crazy and most of this
stone is over bare concrete. That'll be a challenge to apply without
contaminating everything else.
be applied with 3/bin roller.
Home Depot's Wet Look is water based, lasts 1 year and is recommended
to be applied with a 'bug' sprayer.
ARRRRGGG! both roller and sprayer splatter like crazy and most of this
stone is over bare concrete. That'll be a challenge to apply without
contaminating everything else.
Robert Macy
Nov 15, 2012, 8:52:08 AM11/15/12
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On Nov 14, 10:34 am, gfretw...@aol.com wrote:
>...snip...
> If this is "cultured stone" I would ask the manufacturer.
> That is the advantage of real stone, it usually stays the same over
> the years
Thanks, I ALWAYS forget to ask the manufacturer to find out what they
recommend. Or, the stone masons who put this stuff in for a living.
>...snip...
> If this is "cultured stone" I would ask the manufacturer.
> That is the advantage of real stone, it usually stays the same over
> the years
Thanks, I ALWAYS forget to ask the manufacturer to find out what they
recommend. Or, the stone masons who put this stuff in for a living.
dadiOH
Nov 15, 2012, 10:04:55 AM11/15/12
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the 1-2 gallon pump up herbicide sprayers with the tip closed down to get a
mist.
Robert Macy
Nov 16, 2012, 10:03:20 AM11/16/12
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On Nov 15, 8:05 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
> ...snip...
the raw concrete below the stones.
I bought the $20, 2.5gal herbicide sprayer [HD recommended either the
$10, 1 gal, or this one]
Will try it out and see how it goes.
> ...snip...
> I don't know why a sprayer should splatter. Generally, people use one of
> the 1-2 gallon pump up herbicide sprayers with the tip closed down to get a
> mist.
>
Splatter, maybe not, but definitely some misting will float down onto
> the 1-2 gallon pump up herbicide sprayers with the tip closed down to get a
> mist.
>
the raw concrete below the stones.
I bought the $20, 2.5gal herbicide sprayer [HD recommended either the
$10, 1 gal, or this one]
Will try it out and see how it goes.
Robert Macy
Nov 16, 2012, 10:05:33 AM11/16/12
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On Nov 15, 5:56 am, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
Two points with regard to The Concrete Suppliers compnay:
1. easy to get prompt 'personal' response to questions
2. honest compnay that gives CONSERVATIVE product lifetime estimates.
Two traits that make me wish them the best.
1. easy to get prompt 'personal' response to questions
2. honest compnay that gives CONSERVATIVE product lifetime estimates.
Two traits that make me wish them the best.
tra...@optonline.net
Nov 16, 2012, 10:07:33 AM11/16/12
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On Nov 16, 10:03 am, Robert Macy <robert.a.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 15, 8:05 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > ...snip...
> > I don't know why a sprayer should splatter. Generally, people use one of
> > the 1-2 gallon pump up herbicide sprayers with the tip closed down to get a
> > mist.
>
> Splatter, maybe not, but definitely some misting will float down onto
> the raw concrete below the stones.
So? It;s like any painting prohject. You cover up what needs to be
> On Nov 15, 8:05 am, "dadiOH" <dad...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
> > ...snip...
> > I don't know why a sprayer should splatter. Generally, people use one of
> > the 1-2 gallon pump up herbicide sprayers with the tip closed down to get a
> > mist.
>
> Splatter, maybe not, but definitely some misting will float down onto
> the raw concrete below the stones.
covered up. I'd suggest you find out whether
any of the typical plastic tank sprayers are OK for
solvent based product, if you're planning on using one.
Otherwise, a brush works and that is what I'd use anyway.
Robert Macy
Nov 17, 2012, 9:53:20 AM11/17/12
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On Nov 16, 8:07 am, "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net>
wrote:
For simplicity, I bought Behr 'Wet Look' at Home Depot along with the
expensive tank sprayer [approx $20]
Spray is a euphemism, more like stream of varying sizes. But the first
application using a bug sprayer was FAST! abeit messy. There was
probably as much liquid on the plastic drop sheets as got onto the
wall. First application was almost like spraying a sponge wall.
One area, an archway over the doorway, was too difficult to get at and
protect adjoining areas so I bit the bullet and used one of those
cheap, cheap 3inch wide brushes. The brush is so cheap it doesn't even
hold the liquid, but brushing and poking at the surface worked great.
I think with better looking results than the spraying.
To get rid of left over liquid, I applied 2nd coats in some areas
using the brush - that was fast [surface no longer so porous] and
produced less mess.
However after the cost for a 5 gal bucket, all the effort, and
especially cleaning up the sticky mess; I don't think it was worth it.
The sealed stones don't look that much different! Probably should
have gone with the spirit based product instead.
wrote:
expensive tank sprayer [approx $20]
Spray is a euphemism, more like stream of varying sizes. But the first
application using a bug sprayer was FAST! abeit messy. There was
probably as much liquid on the plastic drop sheets as got onto the
wall. First application was almost like spraying a sponge wall.
One area, an archway over the doorway, was too difficult to get at and
protect adjoining areas so I bit the bullet and used one of those
cheap, cheap 3inch wide brushes. The brush is so cheap it doesn't even
hold the liquid, but brushing and poking at the surface worked great.
I think with better looking results than the spraying.
To get rid of left over liquid, I applied 2nd coats in some areas
using the brush - that was fast [surface no longer so porous] and
produced less mess.
However after the cost for a 5 gal bucket, all the effort, and
especially cleaning up the sticky mess; I don't think it was worth it.
The sealed stones don't look that much different! Probably should
have gone with the spirit based product instead.
Smitty Two
Nov 28, 2012, 5:05:01 AM11/28/12
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