Diesel Fuel as weed killer?

[rogerfisher]

I think I recall my Dad using diesel fuel as a weed killer. Can this be
correct? Can it be put in a sprayer and used down the side of the driveway
to kill grass? How much do you use and how long does it take?

Thanks to all posts.

[Lar]

rogerfisher wrote:

Most all our dads also used lead paint...smoked 2-3 packs a day and
slung empty glass bottles out the car window while driving down the
road. Much better alternatives out there to use. The diesel will act as
a long term herbicide where you place it but it will also drift from the
area through the soil contaminate beyond where you use it, possibly some
vegetation you don't want killed.

Lar

[George.com]

"Lar" <lar...@tx.rrBUGS.com> wrote in message
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indeed, stupid idea to use diesel to kill plants. Far safer ways to do it
without need to poisoning your soil. Diesel was used to mark lines on
playing fields and running tracks when I was at school. Better used in a
motor than on soil.

rob

[Mich...]

"Lar" <lar...@tx.rrBUGS.com> wrote in message
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> Lar

Ah, the good old days!!!!!
I remember when dad would change the oil in the car, he'd take the used oil,
dump it into the middle of the yard, pour about a half gallon of old gas on
it, let it sit for about ten minutes(so it soaked into the ground real
good), then light it.

The fire would burn with nice black smoke that the entire neighborhood could
see!!!
Sometimes that fire would burn for half an hour or so! (that was after they
told him he had to stop dumping it down the storm drain).

Mich...

[tra...@optonline.net]

Also, why would anyone use diesel, which is around $3 a gallon, when
there are other products desgned for the job that cost a fraction of
that?

[Dean]

Bad for the aquafir aquafur aquafer,,,,water table too!
:-Dean

[BT Humble]

Lar wrote:
> rogerfisher wrote:
> > I think I recall my Dad using diesel fuel as a weed killer. Can this be
> > correct? Can it be put in a sprayer and used down the side of the driveway
> > to kill grass? How much do you use and how long does it take?
>
> > Thanks to all posts.
>
> Most all our dads also used lead paint...smoked 2-3 packs a day and
> slung empty glass bottles out the car window while driving down the
> road.

That last activity seems to be just as popular as ever!

BTH

[Dean]

Probably is.
The 5-10cent redemption just changes the appearance,the evidence
gets cleaned up! Booze cruisin the backroads was/is very popular in
rural areas where there are'nt many options for entertainment.

[ecarecar]

Dean wrote:

Totally irrelevant.
Totally benign.

Otherwise, how could be justify putting millions/billions of pounds of
salt on roads each winter.

[Mich...]

"ecarecar" <ecar...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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good point

Mich...

[Dean]

On May 3, 4:55 pm, "Mich..." <Mich...@netscape.net> wrote:
> "ecarecar" <ecare...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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Dunno,,maybe the trade-off of lives saved and getting to work due to
better traction is worth the risk.
No wonder it's being said that "water is the new oil"..lol. Double
meaning?
I'm no "green machine" I just remember when I was thinking of using
old gas n oil to treat instead of weedeat and My neighbor gave Me a
speech about the well water.Maybe it sunk in.
Dean

[Data]

HEY! Diesel at $3.00 per gallon. Sh**** Its near to £5.00 here in UK
($10.00) No wonder you Americans are sooooo rich. :-)
Regards
Data

[GeWart]

Better to use clorox

"rogerfisher" <roger...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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[Darryl]

I recently read that vinegar can be used on weeds. Bought 3 gallons,
put it in a sprayer, and the weeds (dandelions) turned dead & yellow
within 48 hours. Amazing, and even safer (if you drank it) than
bleach or diesel fuel. It's a contact killer, though, so it will also
take out any grass it touches, to a lesser extent.

However, the notion that the spot use of diesel for weeds is a
horrible environmental pollutant reminded me of this:

<http://origin.theonion.com/content/node/28362>

[iammoreenviromentallyconsciousthanalotofpeople]

replying to rogerfisher , I am more enviromentally conscious than a lot of
people, as I don't drive a SUV wrote:

Diesel fuel is an excellent weed killer. Try mixing it 50 / 50 with used
motor oil from your car, & it will kill any pesky weeds, & keep them dead.
The people who like to claim how they have gone "green", & are crying
about how it is harmful to the environment, are the very same people who
are driving around in behemoth SUV's that get 12 mpg.

--

[tra...@optonline.net]

Aside from being harmful to the environment and a violation of law
in most civilized places today, diesel fuel is an obviously poor choice
cost wise. Diesel fuel is ~ $2.50 a gallon. Glyphosate can be
had for less than 50 cents a gallon.

[Red...@hotmail.com]

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 8:33:48 AM UTC-5, tra...@optonline.net wrote:

>
> Aside from being harmful to the environment and a violation of law
> in most civilized places today, diesel fuel is an obviously poor choice
> cost wise. Diesel fuel is ~ $2.50 a gallon. Glyphosate can be
> had for less than 50 cents a gallon.

'Had' is the wrong word. It is 'had' for $35/gal but 'used' for $.50c when mixed.

[Theresa Ash Walters]

replying to rogerfisher, Theresa Ash Walters wrote:
Yes . Weeds around riverbank, or in my case piece of land just cleared. Big
sprayer mix half diesel /water .

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[Theresa Ash Walters]

replying to trader4, Theresa Ash Walters wrote:
It's a 50 by 10 area . Overgrown for years. I really haven't check others
prices . Not sure I can good products , price wise.

[Theresa Ash Walters]

replying to Darryl, Theresa Ash Walters wrote:
No I use weed & feed on my yard. Thinking the 50/10 area that use to be an
overgrown thicket might need something stronger.

[Bob F]

On 4/25/2017 3:44 PM, Theresa Ash Walters wrote:
> replying to rogerfisher, Theresa Ash Walters wrote:
> Yes . Weeds around riverbank, or in my case piece of land just cleared. Big
> sprayer mix half diesel /water .
>

If you like polluting your land, and perhaps the river too. Don't let
the authorities catch you.

[Doc]

replying to rogerfisher, Doc wrote:
Absolutely. If you put it on heavy enough after the second application (6
months apart) you may be able to go for a full year with little or no
regrowth. Now remember. Gravel drives can catch seeds blown in from anywhere.
So there is a possibility that something will blow in and try to root but the
soil will not let it get a hold and will die or be kicked out of the ground
with little trouble. Fence lines and fence posts once heavily treated did not
grow back for 3 years at my place.

[Kyle]

replying to trader4, Kyle wrote:
What product is a fraction of 3$ a gallon? Name one?

[I chose to respect]

replying to Mich..., I chose to respect wrote:
Wow, you sound like you have a problem with your father.... not all Dad's used
lead paint, smoked and slung beer bottles out their car window while driving
down the road. Your reply did not require you to be so "caustic" to a simple
question someone was trying to ask in order to do the right thing.

[tra...@optonline.net]

On Friday, June 9, 2017 at 3:14:03 PM UTC-4, Kyle wrote:
> replying to trader4, Kyle wrote:
> What product is a fraction of 3$ a gallon? Name one?
>
> --
>

Glyphosate (roundup). It's 25 cents a gallon when mixed if you buy the concentrate online or at a farm supply in just 2.5 gallon size. That's what I use. You don't think farmers are spraying 500 acres at over $3 a gallon, do you?

[Ward]

replying to trader4, Ward wrote:
I have used roundup 3x and the weeds just keep looking more lush! Going for
the diesel fuel this time.

[Bruce Kellar]

replying to I chose to respect, Bruce Kellar wrote:
I enjoyed the commentary

[Joshua]

replying to I chose to respect, Joshua wrote:
God, its people like you I want to strangle the life out of. Your comment
could have and should have been kept to yourself instead of verbal diarrhea
spewing from it you mouth.

[Daniel M. Buhr]

replying to trader4, Daniel M. Buhr wrote:
roundup is no better than deisel for the enviroment

[tra...@optonline.net]

And the scientific evidence and proof for that is?

[kitty]

replying to rogerfisher, kitty wrote:
Sorry you can't get an answer to your/my question. People should just try
keeping their USELESS chatter to themselves if they don't actually have a
legitimate answer.

[tra...@optonline.net]

You mean useless chatter like you just posted? I saw other people
addressing the question asked. You just did what you accused others
of doing.

[John845]

replying to trader4, John845 wrote:
There are very few things as dangerous or misunderstood as glyphosate
(Roundup). Worse than diesel for sure.

It doesn't degrade and persists in the environment and poisons our water and
food sources. It even stays in the grains that a cow eats and stays in it's
manure after digestion to then seep into the soil for further issues.

Do an internet search to see what I mean (former senior dept of agriculture
people have devoted their lives to stopping it and the companies that make it
(Monsanto which is now Bayer).

[tra...@optonline.net]

Been there, done that. You're just listening to extremist nuts, that look at very selective data and ignore all the overwhelming data that shows roundup is safe. The same extremists that would have us living in caves, starving.

[Freethedumb]

replying to Data, Freethedumb wrote:
Hey there my British brother. It isn't the cost of diesel that contributes to
our "rich" culture, IT IS (at least for a while) a less oppressive government.
You do recall the tea party; right?

[Freethedumb]

replying to I chose to respect, Freethedumb wrote:
Sounds as though the man's Dad was a fun dude!?

[bobbie]

replying to Mich..., bobbie wrote:
brings back memories

[paraplegic]

replying to Freethedumb, paraplegic wrote:
I do, and I also remember the 2nd ammendment, probably put in place, for when
we british came back, now it's holy writ, but your right about your governance.

[EnformedCitizen]

replying to Mich..., EnformedCitizen wrote:
So will roundup.and glysophate and especially on gravel driveways, I saw where
a man called his self cleaning the rows between his garden plants, and rained
two days later and his garden died,it took two weeks for the garden to die,of
course diesel would two,But treating the fence row with diesel is a 100% safer
to your health than any chemical herbicides would be ,,Mark it down,,This Will
Come Back On The Farmers and Chemical Companies, The Public Is Already and
have been paying for the use of these terrible products that the weeds are
developing immunity to,The old time plowing and planting and cultivating will
have to come back soon or we will perish,MARK IT DOWN!!! GUARANTEED!!!

[tra...@optonline.net]

On Sunday, July 29, 2018 at 10:14:03 PM UTC-4, EnformedCitizen wrote:
> replying to Mich..., EnformedCitizen wrote:
> So will roundup.and glysophate and especially on gravel driveways, I saw where
> a man called his self cleaning the rows between his garden plants, and rained
> two days later and his garden died,it took two weeks for the garden to die,of
> course diesel would two,But treating the fence row with diesel is a 100% safer
> to your health than any chemical herbicides would be

Yeah, it's like all those hydrocarbons in diesel aren't chemicals.
No problems there, that's why when you have a fuel station or house
that has a leaking fuel tank and it gets into the ground water, it's
no problem, no cleanup, it's like all organic man.

[Joseph Vigil]

replying to rogerfisher, Joseph Vigil wrote:
Yes you can use diesel .5 gallons for every 5 gallons of water

[Joseph Vigil]

replying to bobbie, Joseph Vigil wrote:
Yes use .5 gallons of diesel per 5 gallons of water funny No will answer the
question truthfully

[onyx]

replying to rogerfisher, onyx wrote:
Think of all the bugs you will kill in this way. if the bugs die we will
eventually die. Diesel will hang around in the soil for ages and isn't
ecological.

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

LOL

[EPA sucks]

replying to Mich..., EPA sucks wrote:
Don’t waste perfectly good burn motor oil by burning it pour it out around
the base of out building no weeds termites orrotten wood. Also apply liberally
in dog pens for flea and tick control as well as weed control also it helps
with mange. Utility trailers with wooden decks apply burnt motor oil liberally
the wood won’t rot. It u drive in corrosive environments road salt beach
thin down this magical liquid with diesel fuel and coat the underside of your
vehicle yearly especially the frame. Please don’t waste this magic potion by
burning it

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

On 8/25/2018 2:14 PM, onyx wrote:
> replying to rogerfisher, onyx wrote:
> Think of all the bugs you will kill in this way. if the bugs die we will
> eventually die.  Diesel will hang around in the soil for ages and isn't
> ecological.
>

In Nam we had an ol' sayin' about diesel: "Diesel is as diesel does."
Does that make any sense to youse guys?

[Derek]

replying to onyx, Derek wrote:
Sounds like diesel will take care of my bug problem and weed problem at the
same time. Thanks. I will post to let you know how it works.

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

How about diesel dykes or dykes on bikes?

[%]

i'll just wait you'll be gone soon and won't be back until lunch time

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

Asshole

[%]

bye bye lunch time guy

[tra...@optonline.net]

Great idea for weeds. Use diesel that costs $3.25 a gallon instead of
glyphosate that cost 25 cents a gallon. Plus the diesel stinks and it
would be funny if a neighbor smelled it and called the EPA.

[Byker]

"Colonel Edmund J. Burke" wrote in message
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Best of all, the weeds don't grow back...

[Jim S]

Good for getting rid of moles, but then is aftershave someone bought you.
--
Jim S

[Tone]

I wooden dab diseasal on my moles. It might turn them malignant.

Tone

[Phil Lossifer]

Mama always said life was like a box of diesel. You never know what you're gonna get

[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

LOL. I like that one. ｡◕‿‿◕｡

[%]

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[Colonel Edmund J. Burke]

How's that leg humping going?

[OldAndPragmatic]

replying to I chose to respect, OldAndPragmatic wrote:
I thought it was great! I choose humor.

[Ralph Moore]

replying to trader4, Ralph Moore wrote:
It has been said that long time exposure to Roundup can cause cancer in some
susceptible individuals.

[tra...@optonline.net]

You're supposed to spray it on weeds, not on yourself. From what I can
gather, there are many studies that have been done that show no
correlation. And maybe one that showed a possible correlation to one
type of cancer. From that, it was off to the races with the ambulance
chasing lawyers. Their first big victory was in CA, where a school
janitor blamed his cancer on using Roundup to control weeds at the
school. How dumb do you have to be to get any significant amount of
Roundup on you spraying weeds at a school. He claimed he was drenched
with it sometimes. If I was doing a lot of it and regularly, I'd put
on a tyvek jumpsuit if I saw any of it was getting on me.
Oh, and one of the studies that didn't show any
connection was one that tracked farmers and their families in I think
it was NC/SC area for over a decade. They found no elevated cancer of
the type the other study implicated, overall the farmers were healthier
than the overall population. I use it and will continue to do so, but
then I'm responsible and not stupid enough to wallow in it either.
I'd bet few of those suing even get it on them much either. It's get
sick, sue, because you can. The TV late nights has ads now, recruiting
more people to sue.

[Bob F]

On 5/3/2019 5:03 PM, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 3:44:06 PM UTC-4, Ralph Moore wrote:
>> replying to trader4, Ralph Moore wrote:
>> It has been said that long time exposure to Roundup can cause cancer in some
>> susceptible individuals.
>>
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>> for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/lawn-garden/diesel-fuel-as-weed-killer-12401-.htm
>
> You're supposed to spray it on weeds, not on yourself. From what I can
> gather, there are many studies that have been done that show no
> correlation.

But then again:

https://www.gmwatch.org/en/news/latest-news/18363-glyphosate-based-herbicide-impairs-female-fertility-new-study

[Bob F]

"However, although all glyphosate herbicide-exposed first generation
female rats became pregnant, they had a lower number of implantation
sites of fertilized eggs, compared with controls. The second generation
offspring from both glyphosate herbicide-exposed groups showed delayed
growth, evidenced by lower foetal weight and length, and a higher
incidence of abnormally small foetuses.

Also, to the authors' surprise, malformations (conjoined foetuses and
abnormally developed limbs) were detected in the second generation of
offspring from the higher dose of glyphosate herbicide group. Foetal
abnormalities were found in 3 out of 117 foetuses, each one from
different mothers within the first generation of offspring (i.e. 3 out
of 13 litters were affected). A statistically significant correlation
was found between glyphosate herbicide exposure and foetal malformations.

In conclusion, the study showed that exposure during pregnancy to low
doses of glyphosate herbicide impaired female reproductive performance
and induced foetal growth retardation and malformations in
second-generation offspring. It also showed that the industry-declared
no-observed adverse effect level (NOAEL) of 1000 mg/kg bw/day for
maternal toxicity is not a reliable indicator of reproductive safety."

[Jay Wadsworth]

replying to trader4, Jay Wadsworth wrote:
Would you advise or recommend a bit of diesel in a glyphosate mix for greater
effectiveness on resistant varieties and as a surfactant for better adhesion?

[tra...@optonline.net]

Oil and water don't mix. You'd be spraying glyphosate for 99% of
the time, glyphosate and oil the last little bit. Roundup and many other
glyphosate have a surfactant in them. I'm using Imitator, it has it.
So, first I'd check what you're using. If it doesn't have a surfactant,
and you want to add some, you can buy it. Or if some weeds are resistant,
just increase the concentration. I mix it at 4% and it seems to kill
everything I use it on here. Some people say a few drops of dishwashing
liquid soap works as a surfactant too, IDK, haven't tried it.

[Rosza Thorns]

replying to Ward, Rosza Thorns wrote:
Me too

[Simplesimon]

replying to trader4, Simplesimon wrote:
Round causes cancer, look it up.

[tra...@optonline.net]

On Sunday, July 28, 2019 at 9:44:02 PM UTC-4, Simplesimon wrote:
> replying to trader4, Simplesimon wrote:
> Round causes cancer, look it up.
>

Yeah, some lawyers got a couple of juries to buy that, opening the
floodgates. Now shyster lawyers are running infomercials on TV to
get more people to pile on. The vast majority of studies have shown
no link. Most compelling to me is that if Roundup is causing lymphoma,
why hasn't the incidence of that particular cancer skyrocketed over
the last 40 years? Glyphosate went from not being used to widely used,
yet there was no corresponding increase in the cancer rate. And in
the big study across a couple of states, following farmers and their
families, who used not only Roundup but all kinds of other chemicals,
they had elevated rates of non-Hodgkins Lymphoma, or any other cancer.

Those cases were laughable. A janitor at a school claims he wound up
drenched in it. You'd have to be a grade A moron for that to happen.
Also, if it happened once, then put on protective covering. I've
used it many times over decades, rarely got anything on me. I take
care when using any kind of chemical like that. I suspect those people
did too, but now they say they were covered in it all the time. How
many freaking weeds does a school have?

[Frank]

Something we agree on. The studies that show the incidence are
epidemiological studies and if anyone has seen such studies they will
see the tremendous amount of static involved.

Roundup is still deemed safe and approved by the EPA.

Most of the legal ads on TV and the radio are done by lawyers known as
ambulance chasers in the past. A jury's finding is not a scientific one.

[Buzzos Lawns]

replying to trader4, Buzzos Lawns wrote:
Some golf courses use diesel fuel to mark and lubricate old style irrigation
snap valves. Usually once a year is all that is required.

[Da Dog]

replying to trader4, Da Dog wrote:
What a bunch a whiners, Shoot diesel on the shite an been done!

[Marine308]

replying to Data, Marine308 wrote:
It's only $1.99 now in SW USA, thanks to the Wuhan Flu ;) I have 3 trucks
that burn about 25gals a week, and we just went off the winter blend, so I'm
getting 1.5mpg more now. My monthly bill is about half it was just lat month.

But as far as using to keep weeds under control, this may be better than
herbicides for my need; a gravel yard to park my trucks & trailers. So far
noting seems to keep the weeds from coming back. Might try Diesel in a small
area to see how it compares.

[Josh02]

replying to Frank, Josh02 wrote:
The problem with Glysophate, It gets in your stomach and lives in your gut. It
kills all the good flora in your gut. It’s not a natural product at some
point Your body will have to detox it and it is extremely hard to get it out
of your body. There is a test you can do to see the levels in your gut and a
person would be surprised to the amount of the toxic chemical they are
carrying around.

[Scott Thomas]

replying to trader4, Scott Thomas wrote:
Recent Cancer epidemic is enough for me not to use it.

[Andrew D]

On Monday, April 30, 2007 at 9:15:46 PM UTC-4, rogerfisher wrote:
> I think I recall my Dad using diesel fuel as a weed killer. Can this be
> correct? Can it be put in a sprayer and used down the side of the driveway
> to kill grass? How much do you use and how long does it take?
> Thanks to all posts.
Not the right place to be asking. Contact your county extension office to see what they advise. You'll get more grown-up advice info there.

[DAVID DANDRIDGE]