Yamaha RX-V1 vs. Denon AVR 5800
res0c0n9
A-3090. Any and all opinions would be appreciated.
Thanks Much,
Randy
It's Only Me!
own one and love it. A pleasure to use and a pleasure to listen to.
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AVR5800 is outdated and compares more closely to the DSP-A1 (the previous
Yamaha Flagship Receiver).
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Aaron Wilson
has a more forward/bright sound. The 5800 on the other hand has got more
amplification a more neutral sound, and an awful lot more support from
highly regarded magazines such as Widescreen Review by known writers. What
is that even supposed to mean that COMDEX states it is state of the art? The
show just decided to stop being a show and started writing reviews?
Aaron Wilson
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Paul Graber
rmic...@home.com wrote on 6/2/01 12:21 PM:
The Rxv1 rocks. Used to have a 2095 and now I have a RXV1. There sound
fields (although some people hate) I could not live without. The Denon
looked and felt very cheaply built to me. The Yamahas are very heavy and
solid. NO PLASTIC!!
However my best advice to you is to go and listen to them both with the same
set of speakers if possible. I am slightly biased towards Yamaha because I
have owned Yamaha for so long and never once had a problem. But I have heard
good things about Denon all the time. In fact if I did not own a Yamaha I
would probably own a Denon.
Good Luck!!
Paul
MiamiXJ
I am looking to upgrade my old Prologic setup.
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Joe
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> Seascape, the RX V1 has got very cheesy DSPs and people tend to say that
it
> has a more forward/bright sound.
Many audiophiles have also stated that the RX-V1 offers the best sound in
the industry. Both, that statement and your statement, are opinions with no
factual content.
>The 5800 on the other hand has got more
> amplification a more neutral sound,
Or a more colored(inaccurate), laid back sound. Please don't confuse your
opinion with facts.
>and an awful lot more support from
> highly regarded magazines such as Widescreen Review by known writers.
Widescreen is a joke IMO and in many other's. Definitely not highly regarded
as you state.
>What
> is that even supposed to mean that COMDEX states it is state of the art?
That they obviously found it to offer cutting edge technology that
translates to cutting edge sound quality in their opinion.
>The
> show just decided to stop being a show and started writing reviews?
Guess you need to ask them.
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Neo, DTS ES Discrete, THX 4.0 and 5.1 processing, more power, 24/192 DAC's,
more digital inputs, Pronto style remote, etc.
How is the RX-V1 state of the art and the AVR-5800 outdated or compares to
the DSP-A1 by any stretch?
Whoever at Comdex made this statement was either talking ignorantly or is a
general idiot.
Dennis
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Dennis
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Shaun
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>rmic...@home.com wrote on 3/6/01 2:21:
>
>> Denon AVR5800 all the way! Power, Features, there is just no comparison. I
>> own one and love it. A pleasure to use and a pleasure to listen to.
>
>All true, but too bad that Aktis remote is such a piece of junk
Not true, if you would read more carefully the B&K AVR 307 is clearly
rated better. And the remote is not a pos.
>
Stewart Pinkerton
>The other two are too rich for my blood how about bringing it down a notch.
>I am looking to upgrade my old Prologic setup.
Bringing it down a notch, the Denon 3801 is a fantastic bargain, very
close to the 5800 in everything but power and features.
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is art, audio is engineering
Stewart Pinkerton
>The COMDEX technology show in Las Vegas rated the RX-V1 as state-of-the-art.
>AVR5800 is outdated and compares more closely to the DSP-A1 (the previous
>Yamaha Flagship Receiver).
Yeah right..........
The Denon AVR5800 is THX-Ultra rated, has 7.1 inputs and outputs, THX
Surround EX, THX 4.0 and 5.1 processing, DTS ES-Matrix, DTS ES 6.1
Discrete, DTS Neo 6, an RS232 control and firmware upgrade port, and
a full complement of 16 24/192 DACs operating in differential mode.
Yeah, that's really outdated...............,
trotsky
Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
>
> "MiamiXJ" <mia...@bellsouth.net> writes:
>
> >The other two are too rich for my blood how about bringing it down a notch.
> >I am looking to upgrade my old Prologic setup.
>
> Bringing it down a notch, the Denon 3801 is a fantastic bargain, very
> close to the 5800 in everything but power and features.
ROTFL! What else do you buy a receiver for, moron?
trotsky
Wow! If you had a dick, I'm sure it would get hard just thinking about
it! You are as perverse as Krooger.
Bruce Taylor
isn't nice....the 5800 is better!
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Mike Littlefield
that).. In straight stereo it strikes me as damn neutral. I
don't know if it's better than the Denon unit though. The
consensus based on my reading of published reviews and
publicized user opinions says the Denon 5800 is a top notch
unit. I haven't been shopping for receivers lately, so I
haven't listened critically to either one of the units you're
considering. I do own a Yammie DSP A-1, and it is superb, the
newer flagship is reputed to be better.
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Seascape
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supporting reviews that say the same thing "Yammie DSP A-1, and it is
superb, the newer flagship is reputed to be better."
Thanks.
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Seascape
though. Yamaha does not subscribe to the THX logo program, though their
CINEMA DSP does comply with this it anyways.
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Mike Littlefield
consider getting anything else unless I win the lottery, or at
least until I take care of my HDTV desires, AND then only if
I'm convinced that I need good component video switching in a
pre-pro, integrated, or receiver.
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not on the Yammie. I suggest going to both sites and compare the feature
list.
Dennis
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Dolores Brower
2ch stereo while the 5800 is best for ht. The RXVI just isn't in the
same class from a standpoint of features and performance. The Yamaha is
not an audiophile piece. It is a nice machine but ranks fourth behind
the two aforementioned and the 989. I know I own all four. I know there
are some of you that disagree. Unfortunately , you people are wrong and
you know it deep down inside. But that is alright , continue to lie to
yourself if it makes you feel better.
Joe
very high tech person, ha ha ha. Must use your webtv console in your closet
along with your HT. The other receivers must be in the other room of your
trailer.
Keep up the posts, we all need a good laugh now and then. Come on, WEBTV? Ha
ha ha ha ha!
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Joseph K. Vossen
> I am considering one of these two products to replace and old Yamaha DSP
> A-3090. Any and all opinions would be appreciated.
>
I had narrowed my choice to these two. My dealer allowed me to take
one of each home so that I could spend the week-end checking them out
in my theater. After 3 days and several friends over to help listen,
I decided to go with the 5800. For my ears (and in my room using my
speakers) the 5800 sounded much *warmer* and cleaner.
You may decide differently, but see if your dealer will allow you to
bring them home at the same time so that you can make a direct
comparison.
I don't think you will go wrong with either one.
Joseph K. Vossen
> The Rxv1 rocks. Used to have a 2095 and now I have a RXV1. There sound
> fields (although some people hate) I could not live without. The Denon
> looked and felt very cheaply built to me. The Yamahas are very heavy and
> solid. NO PLASTIC!!
> However my best advice to you is to go and listen to them both with the same
> set of speakers if possible. I am slightly biased towards Yamaha because I
> have owned Yamaha for so long and never once had a problem. But I have heard
> good things about Denon all the time. In fact if I did not own a Yamaha I
> would probably own a Denon.
gee, I almost broke my back lifting my 5800 into my rack........
Dolores Brower
Dolores Brower
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> On Sun, 2 Jun 3901 22:44:12, Paul Graber <ged...@mpinet.net> wrote:
>
> > The Rxv1 rocks. Used to have a 2095 and now I have a RXV1. There sound
> > fields (although some people hate) I could not live without. The Denon
> > looked and felt very cheaply built to me. The Yamahas are very heavy and
> > solid. NO PLASTIC!!
To Paul:
Have you actually looked at the Denon's? Even their lower end units are
well built and where is the plastic you are talking about? The AVR-5800 is
a beast to lift, heavy plastic <sic>? I don't find anything cheap about the
AVR-5800 in the build quality. It sounds like you are biased towards Yamaha
and don't have an open mind to other brands.
Dennis