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57r.1283
Jan 12, 2024, 1:57:31 AMJan 12
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On 1/11/24 11:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Because the show debuted in the very early 60's, when television was still
>> predominantly white. African-Americans, and nonwhites in general, were rarely
>> seen outside of demeaning stereotypical roles.
>>
>> Fortunately, we've come a long way since then, and it's likely that The
>> Flintstones would have a much more diverse cast if it aired today. In fact,
>> the live action Flintstones movie from 1994 featured Halle Berry, albeit in a
>> minor role.
>
> Only because they couldn’t get Sharon Stone.
???
Anyway ... yep, American TV/Film was VERY "white"
until the latter 1960s. That's how it was - love
it or hate it. UK/EU was pretty much the same.
Portier's "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner ?" was
kind-of the end point for that view.
As for who Sharon Stone likes to fuck - I don't
give a damn. She can go for kangaroos for all
I care .........
My regret is that "opposite-ism" now prevails
as a means of racial/ethnic "righteousness".
Replacing one extreme with another is NOT a
real fix - just more of the same.
> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>> Because the show debuted in the very early 60's, when television was still
>> predominantly white. African-Americans, and nonwhites in general, were rarely
>> seen outside of demeaning stereotypical roles.
>>
>> Fortunately, we've come a long way since then, and it's likely that The
>> Flintstones would have a much more diverse cast if it aired today. In fact,
>> the live action Flintstones movie from 1994 featured Halle Berry, albeit in a
>> minor role.
>
> Only because they couldn’t get Sharon Stone.
???
Anyway ... yep, American TV/Film was VERY "white"
until the latter 1960s. That's how it was - love
it or hate it. UK/EU was pretty much the same.
Portier's "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner ?" was
kind-of the end point for that view.
As for who Sharon Stone likes to fuck - I don't
give a damn. She can go for kangaroos for all
I care .........
My regret is that "opposite-ism" now prevails
as a means of racial/ethnic "righteousness".
Replacing one extreme with another is NOT a
real fix - just more of the same.
anim8rfsk
Jan 12, 2024, 6:34:28 AMJan 12
to
57r.1283 <57r....@etq5.net> wrote:
> On 1/11/24 11:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Because the show debuted in the very early 60's, when television was still
>>> predominantly white. African-Americans, and nonwhites in general, were rarely
>>> seen outside of demeaning stereotypical roles.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, we've come a long way since then, and it's likely that The
>>> Flintstones would have a much more diverse cast if it aired today. In fact,
>>> the live action Flintstones movie from 1994 featured Halle Berry, albeit in a
>>> minor role.
>>
>> Only because they couldn’t get Sharon Stone.
>
>
> ???
Sharon Stone was supposed to play the part of Rosetta Stone, in the
> On 1/11/24 11:40 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
>> NoBody <NoB...@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>> Because the show debuted in the very early 60's, when television was still
>>> predominantly white. African-Americans, and nonwhites in general, were rarely
>>> seen outside of demeaning stereotypical roles.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, we've come a long way since then, and it's likely that The
>>> Flintstones would have a much more diverse cast if it aired today. In fact,
>>> the live action Flintstones movie from 1994 featured Halle Berry, albeit in a
>>> minor role.
>>
>> Only because they couldn’t get Sharon Stone.
>
>
> ???
Flintstones tradition of guest actors with Rocky last names, like Cary
Granite, and Ann Margrock. The schedules didn’t work, and Berry was a last
minute replacement, but there wasn’t a joke there anymore with the name.
>
> Anyway ... yep, American TV/Film was VERY "white"
> until the latter 1960s. That's how it was - love
> it or hate it. UK/EU was pretty much the same.
>
> Portier's "Guess Who's Coming To Dinner ?" was
> kind-of the end point for that view.
>
> As for who Sharon Stone likes to fuck - I don't
> give a damn. She can go for kangaroos for all
> I care .........
>
> My regret is that "opposite-ism" now prevails
> as a means of racial/ethnic "righteousness".
> Replacing one extreme with another is NOT a
> real fix - just more of the same.
>
The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
57e.1283
Jan 19, 2024, 11:40:15 PMJan 19
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On 1/18/24 7:02 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:20:34 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:52:04 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Furthermore, when I see a white face in an African tribe, or a member of
>>> the Zulus fighting the Royal Regiment of Wales then we would truly have
>>> come full circle.
>>
>> Would you be satisfied with pictures of black men in the Black Watch?
>>
>> You can easily find those in Google Images
>
> I don't remember any in the Jetsons either...
Nope - don't remember a single one (but that's like
60 years back memory). The Official Vision for the
future was all-'white' all the time. Even the family
housekeeping robot was 'white' (except modeled after
a 'lower class' suffering servant).
Oddly, at about the same time, "Trek" had Nichelle
Nichols, in a prominent role. The role WAS a bit of
an oddity at the time, true, so much that MLK
personally appealed to Nichols to not quit the series.
Oh, there WAS the Inedible Bulk ... but he was kinda
neutral green ....
Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
but was played as a totally normal/relevant character.
Anyway, mid-60s back, the Toon World was basically
Caucasian and anyone 'browner' were very stereotyped
and trivial characters by and large. This was the
national vision - indeed pre-national - even though
the first revolutionary killed, Boston Massacre, was
a 'black' man.
Themz the facts. It was as it was and all seemed
perfectly reasonable at the time.
Now TODAY ... Woke-ism has created some ridiculous
anti-types. Consider the Marvel movies about Asgard.
Idris Elba played the role of Heimdal very very
well, no complaints from me - but the old legends
said Heimdal was the "whitest of the gods", almost
an albino. Likely none of the scandies had ever
seen or heard of a darker-skinned person back when
those legends took shape pre-AD.
> On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:20:34 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:52:04 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Furthermore, when I see a white face in an African tribe, or a member of
>>> the Zulus fighting the Royal Regiment of Wales then we would truly have
>>> come full circle.
>>
>> Would you be satisfied with pictures of black men in the Black Watch?
>>
>> You can easily find those in Google Images
>
> I don't remember any in the Jetsons either...
Nope - don't remember a single one (but that's like
60 years back memory). The Official Vision for the
future was all-'white' all the time. Even the family
housekeeping robot was 'white' (except modeled after
a 'lower class' suffering servant).
Oddly, at about the same time, "Trek" had Nichelle
Nichols, in a prominent role. The role WAS a bit of
an oddity at the time, true, so much that MLK
personally appealed to Nichols to not quit the series.
Oh, there WAS the Inedible Bulk ... but he was kinda
neutral green ....
Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
but was played as a totally normal/relevant character.
Anyway, mid-60s back, the Toon World was basically
Caucasian and anyone 'browner' were very stereotyped
and trivial characters by and large. This was the
national vision - indeed pre-national - even though
the first revolutionary killed, Boston Massacre, was
a 'black' man.
Themz the facts. It was as it was and all seemed
perfectly reasonable at the time.
Now TODAY ... Woke-ism has created some ridiculous
anti-types. Consider the Marvel movies about Asgard.
Idris Elba played the role of Heimdal very very
well, no complaints from me - but the old legends
said Heimdal was the "whitest of the gods", almost
an albino. Likely none of the scandies had ever
seen or heard of a darker-skinned person back when
those legends took shape pre-AD.
anim8rfsk
Jan 20, 2024, 10:59:53 AMJan 20
to
African-Englishman Norse God, and Volstagg, the God of Girth, wasn’t even
fat.
BTR1701
Jan 20, 2024, 2:33:02 PMJan 20
to
In article <sH-dnRVPmYA40zb4...@earthlink.com>,
"57e.1283" <57e....@etq5.net> wrote:
> On 1/18/24 7:02 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:20:34 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:52:04 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Furthermore, when I see a white face in an African tribe, or a member of
> >>> the Zulus fighting the Royal Regiment of Wales then we would truly have
> >>> come full circle.
> >>
> >> Would you be satisfied with pictures of black men in the Black Watch?
> >>
> >> You can easily find those in Google Images
> >
> > I don't remember any in the Jetsons either...
>
>
> Nope - don't remember a single one (but that's like
> 60 years back memory). The Official Vision for the
> future was all-'white' all the time. Even the family
> housekeeping robot was 'white'
How do you know the robot was white? Because it didn't speak in Ebonics?
> On 1/18/24 7:02 PM, The Horny Goat wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:20:34 -0800, The Horny Goat <lcr...@home.ca>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 11:52:04 +0000, Fredxx <fre...@spam.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Furthermore, when I see a white face in an African tribe, or a member of
> >>> the Zulus fighting the Royal Regiment of Wales then we would truly have
> >>> come full circle.
> >>
> >> Would you be satisfied with pictures of black men in the Black Watch?
> >>
> >> You can easily find those in Google Images
> >
> > I don't remember any in the Jetsons either...
>
>
> Nope - don't remember a single one (but that's like
> 60 years back memory). The Official Vision for the
> future was all-'white' all the time. Even the family
> housekeeping robot was 'white'
57e.1283
Jan 20, 2024, 5:01:16 PMJan 20
to
> African-Englishman Norse God, and Volstagg, the God of Girth, wasn’t even
> fat.
Let's not mention the physics ... Newton is surely up
> fat.
to 9999-RPM in his grave right now ! :-)
Not sure WHERE they got the 'asian' god/prince/whatever.
The character was never developed.
Elba did play the role well - he is good at 'gravitas' and
an all-seeing godlike figure would be expected to have that.
But, as said, the character should have at least a Finnish
hyper-blonde.
ANYhow ... they wanted to make good-ish, 'PC', movies that
could please the largest audience - and the acting pool was
what it was as well. Ethnic/historical accuracy was not high
on their list. There aren't many still of that religion to
get all indignant and offended.
And no, they wouldn't have dressed all fancy like that and
the great hall in Asgard would have looked and smelled more
like a barn :-)
57e.1283
Jan 20, 2024, 5:25:20 PMJan 20
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dominated borough in NYC, Brooklyn probably.
Ah ... the voice of "Rosie the robot" was done by
Jean Vander Pyl. She also voiced 'Wilma Flintstone'
and a bunch of other cartoon characters.
trotsky
Jan 21, 2024, 5:28:01 AMJan 21
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Ubiquitous
Jan 23, 2024, 7:53:39 AMJan 23
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57e....@etq5.net wrote:
> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
He was Hindu, the dominant religion there.
> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
--
Let's go Brandon!
Ubiquitous
Jan 23, 2024, 7:56:13 AMJan 23
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anim...@cox.net wrote:
>57e.1283 <57e....@etq5.net> wrote:
>> Now TODAY ... Woke-ism has created some ridiculous
>> anti-types. Consider the Marvel movies about Asgard.
>> Idris Elba played the role of Heimdal very very
>> well, no complaints from me - but the old legends
>> said Heimdal was the "whitest of the gods", almost
>> an albino. Likely none of the scandies had ever
>> seen or heard of a darker-skinned person back when
>> those legends took shape pre-AD.
>
>The Marvel movie gods were ridiculously cast. A Japanese Norse God, an
>African-Englishman Norse God, and Volstagg, the God of Girth, wasn't even
>fat.
He wasn't thick and wide *there*...
>> Now TODAY ... Woke-ism has created some ridiculous
>> anti-types. Consider the Marvel movies about Asgard.
>> Idris Elba played the role of Heimdal very very
>> well, no complaints from me - but the old legends
>> said Heimdal was the "whitest of the gods", almost
>> an albino. Likely none of the scandies had ever
>> seen or heard of a darker-skinned person back when
>> those legends took shape pre-AD.
>
>The Marvel movie gods were ridiculously cast. A Japanese Norse God, an
>African-Englishman Norse God, and Volstagg, the God of Girth, wasn't even
>fat.
Cune I. Form
Jan 23, 2024, 7:34:53 PMJan 23
to
On 1/23/2024 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
> 57e....@etq5.net wrote:
>
>> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
>> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
>
> He was Hindu, the dominant religion there.
No, he wasn't.
> 57e....@etq5.net wrote:
>
>> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
>> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
>
> He was Hindu, the dominant religion there.
The character's full name was Hadji Singh, which is typically a
Sikh name. That's also consistent with the character depicted as
wearing a turban, which is the norm for Sikh men.
So, neither a Muslim (despite 57e's racist ignorance) nor a Hindu.
Peeler
Jan 23, 2024, 10:53:03 PMJan 23
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Peeler
Jan 24, 2024, 4:12:06 AMJan 24
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On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 22:52:58 -0500, Loose Sphincter, the unhappily married
gay neo-nazitard, IMPERSONATING his master Peeler, whined again:
>>The character's full name was Hadji Singh, which is typically a
>>Sikh name. That's also consistent with the character depicted as
>>wearing a turban, which is the norm for Sikh men.
>>
>>So, neither a Muslim (despite 57e's racist ignorance) nor a Hindu.
>
> Ragtop or dot-head, it's all the same shit.
In fact, they too are ALL superior to you! And you FEEL it painfully every
day in your retarded little neo-nazi heart, Loose Sphincter! <BG>
--
Loose Sphincter about his passion:
" I love eating the Shit out of Poor Helpless Dumb Goran Razovic! LOL"
MID: <ajftsc9mb16l8v86a...@4ax.com>
gay neo-nazitard, IMPERSONATING his master Peeler, whined again:
>>The character's full name was Hadji Singh, which is typically a
>>Sikh name. That's also consistent with the character depicted as
>>wearing a turban, which is the norm for Sikh men.
>>
>>So, neither a Muslim (despite 57e's racist ignorance) nor a Hindu.
>
> Ragtop or dot-head, it's all the same shit.
day in your retarded little neo-nazi heart, Loose Sphincter! <BG>
--
Loose Sphincter about his passion:
" I love eating the Shit out of Poor Helpless Dumb Goran Razovic! LOL"
MID: <ajftsc9mb16l8v86a...@4ax.com>
Ubiquitous
Jan 24, 2024, 7:09:46 AMJan 24
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Ubiquitous
Jan 24, 2024, 7:30:26 AMJan 24
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In article <uoplvb$1g87e$1...@dont-email.me>, a...@ie.nt wrote:
> On 1/23/2024 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> 57e....@etq5.net wrote:
>>> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
>>> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
>>
>> He was Hindu, the dominant religion there.
>
>No, he wasn't.
>
>The character's full name was Hadji Singh, which is typically a
>Sikh name. That's also consistent with the character depicted as
>wearing a turban, which is the norm for Sikh men.
>
>So, neither a Moslim (despite 57e's racist ignorance) nor a Hindu.
> On 1/23/2024 1:30 AM, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> 57e....@etq5.net wrote:
>>> Ah ... "Johnny Quest" ... his bestus bud was clearly
>>> from the Indian sub-continent - probably Moslem -
>>
>> He was Hindu, the dominant religion there.
>
>No, he wasn't.
>
>The character's full name was Hadji Singh, which is typically a
>Sikh name. That's also consistent with the character depicted as
>wearing a turban, which is the norm for Sikh men.
>
Thanks for the clarificationb. I knew he wasn't Moslem.
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