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> Thank you for Mohammad, the Faithful ruler, for he taught us
> how to built an egalitarian society according to the
> truth of your Gospel.
> While Ceasars and Popes were trying to use it
> as a stepping stone for world conquest, he stopped
> them at his frontiere and exposed their deceits and hypocrisy...

> "And the stone that the Meccan builders had rejected
>has become the chief cornerstone" and it is a delight for our eyes.
>But those who circle around an empty Kaaba and kiss
>its cornerstone are being idolatrous and would on the day
>of resurrection answer to you.

>"And the prophets have wondered to themselves, How long
>O Lord, How Long shall we be banging into an empty KAABA?"

Hmmmm... The Bishopric of Mecca, a work of a mission sent
from the selfless CHURCH OF JERUSALEM?
-----------------------------
Devillepin, la Cote D'Ivoire n'est pas un vil pain.
Et elle sera decolonisée que Allassane Ouattara
ou Sarckozy le veuille

kolw...@astromail.com

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Jihadwatch

Robert Spencer's Did Muhammad Exist? #1 bestselling book on Islam



Imagine how this must drive the Leftists and Islamic supremacists
crazy: my new book Did Muhammad Exist? is the #1 bestselling book on
Islam. That means it is outselling anything and everything by John
Esposito, Karen Armstrong, Tariq Ramadan, Reza Aslan -- you name it.

Islamic supremacists and their non-Muslim Useful Idiots have
consistently refused my invitations to debate, claiming that I am some
sort of fringe character whom they do not wish to dignify. But this
gives the lie to their claim: the reality is that many, many people
are listening to what I am saying and what other Islamorealists are
saying, and they refuse to debate me for one reason only: because they
know they'll be soundly defeated.

In fact, we have sent out invitations to Esposito, Armstrong, Aslan,
Juan Cole, the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and others to debate me on this
question. But I won't be waiting by the phone for an acceptance from
any of them.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/robert-spencers-did-muhammad-exist-1-bestselling-book-on-islam.html

http://www.jihadwatch.org/





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Apr 27, 2012, 9:06:14 AM4/27/12
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On Apr 26, 6:52 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> Jihadwatch
>
> Robert Spencer's Did Muhammad Exist? #1 bestselling book on Islam


Robert Spencer is a JEW who thought like any jew of judaism that
Jesus did NOT fulfill Deuteronomy 18:15-19.
Mohammad existence and his raise to power silence them all on this
issue.
But of course you don't know how all this work together, so you can
easily be lied to.

>
> Imagine how this must drive the Leftists and Islamic supremacists
> crazy: my new book Did Muhammad Exist? is the #1 bestselling book on
> Islam. That means it is outselling anything and everything by John
> Esposito, Karen Armstrong, Tariq Ramadan, Reza Aslan -- you name it.
>
> Islamic supremacists and their non-Muslim Useful Idiots have
> consistently refused my invitations to debate, claiming that I am some
> sort of fringe character whom they do not wish to dignify. But this
> gives the lie to their claim: the reality is that many, many people
> are listening to what I am saying and what other Islamorealists are
> saying, and they refuse to debate me for one reason only: because they
> know they'll be soundly defeated.
>
> In fact, we have sent out invitations to Esposito, Armstrong, Aslan,
> Juan Cole, the Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf and others to debate me on this
> question. But I won't be waiting by the phone for an acceptance from
> any of them.
>
> http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/robert-spencers-did-muhammad-exist-...
>
> http://www.jihadwatch.org/

jwshe...@satx.rr.com

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Apr 27, 2012, 12:28:41 PM4/27/12
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On Apr 27, 8:06 am, kolwe...@astromail.com wrote:
> On Apr 26, 6:52 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
>
> <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > Jihadwatch
>
> > Robert Spencer's Did Muhammad Exist? #1 bestselling book on Islam
>
> Robert Spencer is a JEW

Robert Spencer - Well as you may know I am a Melkite Catholic
and my family is from the Islamic world.

http://catholicreport.org/?id=130

The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism:
From Sacred Texts to Solemn History [Hardcover]
Andrew G. Bostom (Editor), Ibn Warraq (Foreword)


Careful, Methodical, Debunking of Myths and Presentation of
Important Data June 1, 2008
By Danusha Goska
Whenever a Jew is killed, it is for the benefit of Islam." Andrew
Bostom was working on a book about Islamic treatment of "dhimmis,"
"infidels" or non-Muslims, when he came across this quote by Sufi
jurist Sirhindi (d. 1621). The virulence of this quote inspired Bostom
to put his general work on Islamic treatment of dhimmis aside, for the
moment, and to focus on Islamic anti-Semitism.

Andrew Bostom, a medical doctor, is a careful and ethical researcher
and writer. Nowawdays, there is so much political frenzy around the
question of Islam, that readers often fear that they are exposed to
more heat than light in best-selling books. When reading Andrew
Bostom, readers need not worry that they are being spoon fed
propaganda.

Bostom works his way with painstaking slowness and exactitude through
mountains of primary sources, and he presents that data to the reader,
with full citations to original texts. Bostom uses Islam's own
documents, including Islamic legal documents on Jews, and historical
accounts of Jewish life in Muslim lands, to support his inevitable
conclusion: from the earliest days, from the founding of Islam by
Mohammed, and from Islam's central text, the Koran, anti-Semitism has
been a central aspect of Islam, and any reform of this aspect of Islam
will be very difficult.

Bostom effectively debunks three oft-repeated Islam-apologist myths:
the alleged Islamic Golden Age, that Muslims learned their anti-
Semitism from Christians or the West, and that anti-Semitism arose in
the Muslim world only after the recognition of the state of Israel.

There was no "Islamic Golden Age" when persons of various faiths lived
in peace and harmony under wise, tolerant Islamic rulers, Bostom
insists. From the days of Mohammed, non-Muslims under Muslim rule were
subject to taxation, humiliation, oppression, exile, and murder.
Bostom devotes great energy to proving this through historical
analysis.

Muslims did not learn their anti-Semitism from Christianity. Muslims
who had never met a Jew or a Christian brought their culturally-
ingrained anti-Semitism with them into India, a largely Hindu and
Buddhist sub-continent. Nor did they aquire anti-Semitism from
Scientific Racism's or Nazism's racial disdain for Jews. Arabs are
Semites, just as Jews are. Muslims forced Jews to wear distinctive
badges more than a thousand years before Hitler did so. Christians
also had to wear identifying badges under Muslim leaders.

The Koran is replete with anti-Semitic verses, most notoriously, the
ones equating Jews with "pigs and monkeys." There is also the hadith,
or saying of Mohammed, that rocks will speak to Muslims, asking them
to kill Jews. These verses are freely cited by Islamic religious
leaders today, as Muslim sermons posted on youtube reveals. Mohammed,
the founder of Islam, exercised murderous hostility toward Jews.

It will be very difficult to discover reformers within Islam who wish
to co-exist with Jews in respect and tolerance; it will be even harder
for those reformers to realize their dreams. Islam leaves no room for
reform, especially when it comes to hostility to non-Muslims,
especially Jews. The Koran is believed to be the perfect, unchanging,
eternal word of God, and the Muslim God refers to Jews as monkey and
pigs.

Bostom's book is essential reading for those hoping to understand the
truth about Islam.


http://www.amazon.com/The-Legacy-Islamic-Antisemitism-History/dp/1591025540

kolw...@astromail.com

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Apr 29, 2012, 2:16:53 PM4/29/12
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On Apr 27, 12:28 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
<jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> On Apr 27, 8:06 am, kolwe...@astromail.com wrote:


So?
It is your choice to pay alleagiance to Caesar. A catholic is a
citizen
of the Dominions of Caesar even though you refer to Jesus as the
Son of God. And the fact that you are living in the Islamic world
does NOT give you the right to denigrate something that God approved
and sanctioned
> http://www.amazon.com/The-Legacy-Islamic-Antisemitism-History/dp/1591...

jwshe...@satx.rr.com

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Apr 29, 2012, 6:46:31 PM4/29/12
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On Apr 29, 1:16 pm, kolwe...@astromail.com wrote:
> On Apr 27, 12:28 pm, "jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com"
>
> <jwsheffi...@satx.rr.com> wrote:
> > On Apr 27, 8:06 am, kolwe...@astromail.com wrote:
>
> So?
> It is your choice to pay alleagiance to Caesar. A catholic is a
> citizen
> of the Dominions of Caesar even though you refer to Jesus as the
> Son of God. And the fact that you are living in the Islamic world
> does NOT give you the right to denigrate something that God approved
> and sanctioned
>
Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness,
even so must the Son of man be lifted up:


Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but
have eternal life.


Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten
Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have
everlasting life.


Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the
world; but that the world through him might be saved.


Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that
believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in
the name of the only begotten Son of God.
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