What if McCarthy had become President (Ruler) of the US?
Spydr21
What if, for some freak of nature, be it an assasination, coup de' tat,
or being elected, that Sen. Joeseph McCarthy becomes Prez, what would
happen during his term? Also, seeing how some Presidents' have left the
mark in history, how would Pres. McCarthy's impact on America, and for the
resto fh that world for that matter, be today, had he become President?
Would he be in there for both terms, or using "the Red Threat", impose
some kind of dictatorship, where he's Prez for a lot longer than eight
years? What would the ramifications be?
From someone who likes this stuff,
SPYDR21
Roy Wilke
In article <4t327v$j...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, spy...@aol.com says...
I'd say that he wouldn't have even lasted one term, due to his ordering
a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the first year of his presidency. If the
executives of the US and the USSR survived, I doubt there'd be anything
worthwhile left anywhere for them to govern over.
Lester John Ness
I think McCarthy would have been able to do little more than he
did as Congressman, save discrediting his cause even more. Remember,
presidents are supposed to make things happen. Congressmen can get away
with mouthing off.
--
Lester Ness ln...@indiana.edu
Douglas Hoff
Linda Quinn <lcq...@aol.com> wrote in article
<4v3g4h$f...@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com>...
> rwi...@powerup.com.au (Roy Wilke) wrote:
> As to being a dictator, why do you think [McCarthy] would be able to
> circumvent the constitution when no one else had?
>
> What do you think a McGovern presidency would look like? Are your
> views shaped by partisanship? There are many that think that McGovern
> would confiscate private property and re-distribute it. Many thought
> McGovern was as dangerous, or more dangerous, than McCarthy. I guess
> it depends on your personal political views.
Well, you have to remember that the Constitution prohibits the confiscation
of private property without "Due Process" (and in some cases, compensation)
also. Although apparently not if you are accused of a drug crime. Soooo.
. . . I will turn your question back on you, as they say in the
journalistic trade, How would McGovern circumvent the Constitution when
noone else had?
P.S. Everyone's views are shaped by partisanship, whether they admit it or
not.
Linda Quinn
rwi...@powerup.com.au (Roy Wilke) wrote:
>>Would he be in there for both terms, or using "the Red Threat", impose
>>some kind of dictatorship, where he's Prez for a lot longer than eight
>>years? What would the ramifications be?
>>
>>
>>From someone who likes this stuff,
>>
>>
>>SPYDR21
>I'd say that he wouldn't have even lasted one term, due to his ordering
>a pre-emptive nuclear strike in the first year of his presidency. If the
>executives of the US and the USSR survived, I doubt there'd be anything
>worthwhile left anywhere for them to govern over.
Please, you are giving this man too much credit. He was not bright
enough to do much of anything except raise some imflammatory issues.
The press and the opinion makers did the rest. it was the Hollywood
studio executives who blacklisted many actors, not McCarthy. He never
took a job away from anyone, or blacklisted anyone. It was the
cowardice of the business leaders and the press that led to the
persecution of the people considered to be communist.
As to being a dictator, why do you think he would be able to
John0714
In article <01bb8c69$4a84ea20$b05545c7@ATTWorldnet>, "Douglas Hoff"
<dhof...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>P.S. Everyone's views are shaped by partisanship, whether they admit it
or
>not.
>
>
Yeah, but at least some of us try to fight it.
John0714
What do you think a McGovern presidency would look like? Are your
views shaped by partisanship? There are many that think that McGovern
would confiscate private property and re-distribute it.
>>
Years ago McGovern was actually the host on Saturday Night Live, and they
did a sketch with a similar theme to the above. (I kid you not.)
bla...@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
John0714 (john...@aol.com) wrote:
: What do you think a McGovern presidency would look like? Are your
: views shaped by partisanship? There are many that think that McGovern
: would confiscate private property and re-distribute it.
He might have wanted to, but if he knew what was good for him, he wouldn't
even mention it.
Realistically, a McGovern presidency would not have differed too much
from Nixon's in 1972-76. The only real difference, no Watergate, and a
quicker retreat from Vietnam.
McGovern's "far leftism" was largely a matter of image, and a media
construct, much like Nixon's conservatism, IMHO. He was never much of a
hippie, and if he was actually elected, he would be even less of one.
Maybe even less of a hippie than Old Bill is right now!
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Charlie would probably have made a better president than most of the last
bunch. At least we could see Edgar manipulating him, instead of having to
guess.
But was Charlie actually Constitutionally eligible? I thought I read
somewhere that some of his wood came from England.
Linda Quinn
Eugene or Joe?
Donnah Dunthorn
Joe Schembrie
McCarthy is portrayed today as the Sum of All Fears, but notice
how quickly everyone ganged up on him and he submerged into
obscurity.
McCarthy also was a product of his times. His times, remember,
were such that the worst dictator of all time (Stalin) had stolen
the most awesome weapon of all time (the atomic bomb) and
threatened to take over the world (and had taken over one third
of it in the space of seven years).
If McCarthy had become President, it's highly unlikely that he
could have suspended our civil liberties in the fashion portrayed
by liberals (he made enemies with the Army, remember, so he'd be
facing a military coup if he got out of line), and the end result
is that communism would probably have run out of gas twenty years
sooner.
--
Joe
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Marty Busse
In article <50ob1b$3rd$1...@mhade.production.compuserve.com>,
Joe Schembrie <71732...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>McCarthy is portrayed today as the Sum of All Fears, but notice
>how quickly everyone ganged up on him and he submerged into
>obscurity.
>
>McCarthy also was a product of his times. His times, remember,
>were such that the worst dictator of all time (Stalin) had stolen
>the most awesome weapon of all time (the atomic bomb) and
>threatened to take over the world (and had taken over one third
>of it in the space of seven years).
>
This was the perception at the time...and was very overblown.
Stalin, after all, had been ruling most of the "one third" of the
world since the '20s. And you only get one-third by adding China to
the list of territories Stalin controlled, a very dubious assumption.
Stalin did not control Mao.
>If McCarthy had become President, it's highly unlikely that he
>could have suspended our civil liberties in the fashion portrayed
>by liberals (he made enemies with the Army, remember, so he'd be
>facing a military coup if he got out of line), and the end result
>is that communism would probably have run out of gas twenty years
>sooner.
>
>--
>Joe
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>The Cydonia Files: Martian anomalies and beyond
>http://home.navisoft.com/cydonia/cydonia.htm
How? Is Tailgunner JOe going to beat the Big Red Machine by
himself?
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