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If the T. hadn't hit that iceberg and had arrived in NY on schedule
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aesthete8
Apr 15, 2012, 5:56:35 AM4/15/12
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Were any special celebrations planned?
Were dignitaries assembled?
A brass band?
A planned parade?
Were the press waiting?
Were dignitaries assembled?
A brass band?
A planned parade?
Were the press waiting?
Mike DiCenso
Apr 15, 2012, 6:25:46 AM4/15/12
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some crowds to be sure, but that was typical for many large and
prestigous ships on their maiden voyages, and it is very unlikely that
bands and parades would've been staged. Remember that Titanic was the
second of three ships, and Olympic being the first of the class
probably got the most celebration over her launch and eventual maiden
voyage than Titanic ever would, and for Olympic there does not seem to
be a record of any large-scale parades or other major celebrations to
mark the occasion, so it is unlikely that Titanic would've been any
different.
-Mike
Louis Epstein
Apr 15, 2012, 1:52:22 PM4/15/12
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Mike DiCenso <mdicen...@q.com> wrote:
White Star probably wanted press buzz,but the press saw it as just
another biggest-for-the-moment ship.It was a much smaller leap beyond
Olympic than the Imperator (of the Hamburg America line) would be the
next year over the whole Olympic Class.
Only its sinking gave the Titanic a particular claim to fame!
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
another biggest-for-the-moment ship.It was a much smaller leap beyond
Olympic than the Imperator (of the Hamburg America line) would be the
next year over the whole Olympic Class.
Only its sinking gave the Titanic a particular claim to fame!
-=-=-
The World Trade Center towers MUST rise again,
at least as tall as before...or terror has triumphed.
aesthete8
Apr 16, 2012, 5:58:19 AM4/16/12
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On Apr 15, 7:52 am, Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
> Mike DiCenso <mdicenso_...@q.com> wrote:
Thanks to all for your quick and informative replies.
For what it's worth, here's my Titanic sinking theory:
- Isn't it true that no effort at all was made to slow down the speed
of the T. even a little bit as it received warnings about icebergs?
- Wasn't White Star known to give a bonus for good performance?
I hate to sound cynical, but I think that Mr. Ismay simply offered the
Captain (and possibly those close around him) an under-the-table bonus
to get to N.Y. ahead of schedule in the hopes of garnering whatever
press coverage that could be gotten for that feat.
It's a classic case of a bean-counter-type forcing others to take
risks (e.g., cut corners, take shortcuts) in an attempt to increase
profits.
After all, Isn't figuring out ways to increase profits what capitalism
is all about?
> Mike DiCenso <mdicenso_...@q.com> wrote:
For what it's worth, here's my Titanic sinking theory:
- Isn't it true that no effort at all was made to slow down the speed
of the T. even a little bit as it received warnings about icebergs?
- Wasn't White Star known to give a bonus for good performance?
I hate to sound cynical, but I think that Mr. Ismay simply offered the
Captain (and possibly those close around him) an under-the-table bonus
to get to N.Y. ahead of schedule in the hopes of garnering whatever
press coverage that could be gotten for that feat.
It's a classic case of a bean-counter-type forcing others to take
risks (e.g., cut corners, take shortcuts) in an attempt to increase
profits.
After all, Isn't figuring out ways to increase profits what capitalism
is all about?
paul.l...@googlemail.com
Apr 21, 2012, 4:55:08 AM4/21/12
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30 reporters were due to board the ship at New York, and Captain Smith
had been informed of this by wireless; accordingly he informed his
chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
had been informed of this by wireless; accordingly he informed his
chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
Louis Epstein
Apr 21, 2012, 4:19:01 PM4/21/12
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Paul.L...@gmail.com <paul.l...@googlemail.com> wrote:
: 30 reporters were due to board the ship at New York, and Captain Smith
How long a layover was scheduled before Titanic's return voyage to
Southampton?
: 30 reporters were due to board the ship at New York, and Captain Smith
: had been informed of this by wireless; accordingly he informed his
: chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
:
: chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
How long a layover was scheduled before Titanic's return voyage to
Southampton?
paul.l...@googlemail.com
Apr 24, 2012, 6:58:02 AM4/24/12
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On Apr 21, 9:19 pm, Louis Epstein <l...@main.put.com> wrote:
20th.
Although she was claimed to arrive in NY early on Wednesday 17th,
there is ample evidence
to suggest that she would arrive late in the evening of Tuesday 16th.
> Paul.Lee.1...@gmail.com <paul.lee.1...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> : 30 reporters were due to board the ship at New York, and Captain Smith
> : had been informed of this by wireless; accordingly he informed his
> : chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
> :
>
> How long a layover was scheduled before Titanic's return voyage to
> Southampton?
I'd have to check but I think she was due to depart New York on April
>
> : 30 reporters were due to board the ship at New York, and Captain Smith
> : had been informed of this by wireless; accordingly he informed his
> : chief steward to prepare sufficient meals for them.
> :
>
> How long a layover was scheduled before Titanic's return voyage to
> Southampton?
20th.
Although she was claimed to arrive in NY early on Wednesday 17th,
there is ample evidence
to suggest that she would arrive late in the evening of Tuesday 16th.
Mike DiCenso
Apr 25, 2012, 2:38:38 AM4/25/12
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On Apr 24, 3:58 am, "Paul.Lee.1...@gmail.com" <paul.lee.
The reproduction schedule I have says April 20th. Assuming arrival on
Wednesday the 17th, that'd be a 3 day turnaround, which was fairly
typical. This would allow up to 13 sailings (Saturdays and Wednedays
from New York and Southhampton respectively) or 6-7 voyages a year.
-Mike
Wednesday the 17th, that'd be a 3 day turnaround, which was fairly
typical. This would allow up to 13 sailings (Saturdays and Wednedays
from New York and Southhampton respectively) or 6-7 voyages a year.
-Mike
Dave Tuttle
Sep 13, 2012, 11:56:49 PM9/13/12
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thekma...@gmail.com
Nov 13, 2012, 7:29:26 PM11/13/12
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Not likely. It was not a Riband crossing. Titanic was eclipsed in size before all her plates were riveted on - Imperator's keel had already been laid.
Among the great transatlantics, Titanic was in the top 50 size-wise. Throw in the cruise generation(1970s to Present), she'd barely crack the top 100!
Among the great transatlantics, Titanic was in the top 50 size-wise. Throw in the cruise generation(1970s to Present), she'd barely crack the top 100!
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