Frame of titanic with Melvina dean signature On ebay, What should be the value
Imontreal
I am currently selling a nice Frame of a picture of the Titanic with
the Melvina dean signature. It is limited to 950 with a certificate. I
would to know your opinion on this piece. I did start the auction at
1000$, a price to test the market for the internet, I already have
sold a couple of them much higher than that start price.
Thank's for looking and tell me what do you think.
J-F
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1169112586
Dave Tuttle
First, at least have enough respect for Ms. Dean to a) SPELL her name
correctly, and b) CAPITALIZE her last name.
Second, you're not inviting true advice on pricing. You're just shamelessly
advertising and SPAMMING us all with your auction link.
However, I will say that at a starting bid price of a thousand dollars,
you sure NEED some advice---which leads me to,
Third, YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND!!! Neither is Ms. Dean's signature, nor
pictures of Titanic signed by her rare. She's been cranking them out for
years, and even is on the autograph convention circuit selling hundreds in a
weekend.
What you have here is a $100. to $200. value signed pic in supposedly an
$800. frame, I suppose. (I do my own framing, thank you.) I currently have
a signed 8"x10" photo of the ship signed by her, along with a certificate of
authenticity AND a photo of her HOLDING the photo. Total cost? FORTY BUCKS
on eBay.
You say the photo's 16"x20"? I've got a 20" x 24" original oil painting of
the ship purchased at an art show. It was by the same artist who did the
paintings for the Chicago exhibition. My wife even talked the proprietor
down a bit to $250. You say you've already sold a couple for more than the
grand apiece? Congratulations. All you've done is to prove that Barnum was
right about a sucker every minute. As George Carlin said, "You nail
together two things that have never been nailed together before, and some
schmuck will buy it from you!".
With the frame? Start at $350. Or, get rid of the frame and start at $225.
There. You got advice. Take it or leave it.
Dave Tuttle
Imontreal <man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Helen Dudley Bates
The thing has been up there since the 19th without a single bid. This would
tend to negate your claim that you have sold a couple of them "much higher than
that start price" of $1,000.
And just where did you sell them? It certainly was not on eBay. You have
*one* listed. This one. And you have sold no others on eBay, unless it was on
another account (which is, of course, against eBay policy).
What are the odds that Melvina Dean sat down and signed 950 prints for you?
Slim to none? Lot closer to none, I suspect.
Looking at the rest of your auctions, it's amusing to see this $1,000 artifact
among the 37 other items, kung-fu movies and such, each selling for
approximately $30. You have listed a total of 38 items on eBay in the past.
And the only one listed at over $100 is...guess what. This "nice Frame of a
picture of the Titanic with the Melvina dean signature."
You asked for my opinion? Okay, here it is. I think you bought a single $15
poster and decided to try to pass it off as something it isn't.
and psst...by the way...there is no apostrophy in "thanks."
- Helen
Paul Goodwin
Helen Dudley Bates wrote in message
<20010724174633...@ng-cu1.aol.com>...
>>
>And just where did you sell them? It certainly was not on eBay. You have
>*one* listed. This one. And you have sold no others on eBay, unless it
was on
>another account (which is, of course, against eBay policy).
>
Actually it's quite "legal" on eBay to sell under two or more user names,
unless you bid on your own auctions, which is big time no-no.
For the record, I sell under two user ID's with eBays full knowledge. (One
user ID is specific to computer & web design services)
Paul
Imontreal
ok maybe I wanted people to see my item but my intend was not to spam.
This piece as been sign by her hand I personnally guarantee that.
If you think the price is too high that's an opinion.
If you intend to flame again don't bother replying.
As for the other ebay item I have for sell right now you are right it
is not the same category and I take it as a good advice.
I did sell a lot of stuff in the past more valuable than DVD like
computer, routers etc I don't intend to sell one frame and go away
with the money!!
I see Ebay with a long term perspective and I am there for the long
run.
I know my english is not perfect( primary language is french), sorry
for that and don't bother replying in the next message with all the
fault I have made in this one.
Jean-Francois
sisdudl...@aol.common (Helen Dudley Bates) wrote in message news:<20010724174633...@ng-cu1.aol.com>...
dctcci
>The thing has been up there since the 19th without a single bid. This would
>tend to negate your claim that you have sold a couple of them "much higher
>than
>that start price" of $1,000.
>And just where did you sell them? It certainly was not on eBay. You have
>*one* listed. This one. And you have sold no others on eBay, unless it was
>on
>another account (which is, of course, against eBay policy).
>What are the odds that Melvina Dean sat down and signed 950 prints for you?
>Slim to none? Lot closer to none, I suspect.
>Looking at the rest of your auctions, it's amusing to see this $1,000
>artifact
>among the 37 other items, kung-fu movies and such, each selling for
>approximately $30. You have listed a total of 38 items on eBay in the past.
>And the only one listed at over $100 is...guess what. This "nice Frame of a
>picture of the Titanic with the Melvina dean signature."
>You asked for my opinion? Okay, here it is. I think you bought a single $15
>poster and decided to try to pass it off as something it isn't.
>and psst...by the way...there is no apostrophy in "thanks."
>
>- Helen
>
>http://www.dudleybates.com
>
What crawled up your old rotten crotch and died. He asked for an opinion, not
to be blown from here to hell. Geeees lady lighten up.
Helen Dudley Bates
>If you think the price is too high that's an opinion.
For which you specifically asked.
>If you intend to flame again don't bother replying.
"Again?"
Honey, I haven't even lit the charcoal. ; )
>As for the other ebay item I have for sell right now you are right it
>is not the same category and I take it as a good advice.
>I did sell a lot of stuff in the past more valuable than DVD like
>computer, routers etc I don't intend to sell one frame and go away
>with the money!!
>I see Ebay with a long term perspective and I am there for the long
>run.
>
>I know my english is not perfect( primary language is french), sorry
>for that and don't bother replying in the next message with all the
>fault I have made in this one.
Naw...wouldn't be fun anymore. Your English is fantastic for being a second
language.
Good luck with the sale.
- Helen
Joe Sweeney
>
> - Helen
psst...by the way...there is no "y" in...oh, I'll let you figure it out.
Helen Dudley Bates
>Message-id: <16d66148.01072...@posting.google.com>
*snort*
Thanks. Taste of me own medicine <grin>
At least it wasn't "plural." As I work in medicine it's damned hard for me to
type "pleural."
- Helen
Helen Dudley Bates
>to
>type "pleural."
>
*sigh* "...to NOT type..."
- Helen
...meekly going back to her quiet place...
Michael DiCola
>>At least it wasn't "plural." As I work in medicine it's damned hard for me
>>to
>>type "pleural."
>>
>
> *sigh* "...to NOT type..."
Split infinitive.
Bob Botts
Helen Deadly Bates wrote:
>
> >At least it wasn't "plural." As I work in medicine it's damned hard for me
> >to
> >type "pleural."
> >
>
> *sigh* "...to NOT type..."
That's an airy excuse if I ever heard one!
Cheers... Bob
John M. Feeney
The Mouse
Does that mean the fancy gold frame pictured isn't the one you'll be
shipping to the highest bidder? Or have I misunderstood?
--
Mouse
No cute quote; deal with it.
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Imontreal <man...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: Hello to Everybody on the alt.history.ocean-liners.titanic newsgroup.
The Mouse
:
: What crawled up your old rotten crotch and died. He asked for an opinion,
not
: to be blown from here to hell. Geeees lady lighten up.
If I were you, I'd take your own advice and lighten up, you pig.
dctcci
>should be the value
>From: "The Mouse" house...@netzero.net
>If I were you, I'd take your own advice and lighten up, you pig.
MICE SHOULD BE EATEN, NOT HEARD!
Officer DC the cat.
Imontreal
The frame you see in the picture is in wood and those actually come
from Italy, it is the one included in the auction. The other wood
frame I am talking about in the auction is a plain wood frame to put
around the original wood frame so it doesn't broke up in the shipping.
I am actually paying someone around 30$ U.S. just for the shipping
frame. So this is why the shipping is so expensive but I do guarantee
everything will arrive at destination in perfect condition.
I just wish I did make it clear now :)
Any other question is welcome.
Jean-Francois
"The Mouse" <house...@netzero.net> wrote in message news:<JeP77.4457$Dq.734...@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>...
Daniel Allen Butler
>If I were you, I'd take your own advice and lighten up, you pig.
It's OK, Mouse. Helen can take care of herself (she's been taking lessons from
The Hammer for two years now)--and besides, this Chandler guy is just a
"Hammer-wannabe." Doesn't have the style, wit, or intelligence--not to mention
the good looks--to be a real Hammer. Come to think of it, being a "wannabe"
seems to be all Chandler is capable of. After all, aren't corrections officers
just wanna-be cops who couldn't make the cut?
Dan
(The Hammer)
The opinions expressed here are not necessarily those of the management, but
they ought to be!
Helen Dudley Bates
>The frame you see in the picture is in wood and those actually come
>from Italy, it is the one included in the auction. The other wood
>frame I am talking about in the auction is a plain wood frame to put
>around the original wood frame so it doesn't broke up in the shipping.
>I am actually paying someone around 30$ U.S. just for the shipping
>frame. So this is why the shipping is so expensive but I do guarantee
>everything will arrive at destination in perfect condition.
>
>I just wish I did make it clear now :)
>
>Any other question is welcome.
Does God wear underwear?
- Helen
Dave Tuttle
Helen Dudley Bates <sisdudl...@aol.common> wrote in message
news:20010726183543...@ng-mj1.aol.com...
>
> Does God wear underwear?
>
> - Helen
If so, boxers or briefs?
Dave Tuttle
Helen Dudley Bates
>>
>> - Helen
Dave Tuttle asked:
>If so, boxers or briefs?
And where does HE buy them?
- Helen
Douglas King
>
> Dave Tuttle asked:
> >If so, boxers or briefs?
>
> And where does HE buy them?
You all must be heathens. Haven't you seen pictures of
Him?
God wears a toga.
Regards- Doug King
Tom Pappas
be briefs.
In fact, he wrote "A Brief History.......
--
"But this script can't sink!"
"She is made of irony, sir. She can, and she will."
"Dave Tuttle" <kb4...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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John M. Feeney
>And where does HE buy them?
Directly from BVD --"Beatific Vision Designers"! :)
The Mouse
: >Subject: Re: Frame of titanic with Melvina dean signature On ebay, What
This Mouse FIRMLY believes mice should be eaten regularly. Sorry, but she
can't promise to be quiet everytime it happens.
(btw, you're STILL a pig!)
Mouse
The Mouse
news:20010726174424...@ng-bj1.aol.com...
: >From: "The Mouse" house...@netzero.net
:
: >If I were you, I'd take your own advice and lighten up, you pig.
:
: It's OK, Mouse. Helen can take care of herself (she's been taking lessons
from
: The Hammer for two years now)--and besides, this Chandler guy is just a
: "Hammer-wannabe." Doesn't have the style, wit, or intelligence--not to
mention
: the good looks--to be a real Hammer. Come to think of it, being a
"wannabe"
: seems to be all Chandler is capable of. After all, aren't corrections
officers
: just wanna-be cops who couldn't make the cut?
I know Helen can take care of herself. She's my heeeee-ro! I just couldn't
help but jump in on that one. It was way too extreme. I pop in once in
awhile, just to read your Hammerisms and watch Helen kick ass.
This bozo is a corrections officer? Nothing more than a glorified
rent-a-cop, eh? It explains his behavior perfectly. That's the job for
the guys who can't make the cut as REAL cops! It explains his inability be
respond appropriately. He's used to trying to victimize people. He doesn't
even have to chase them down like the LAPD did to Rodney King. He's got
"captive" victims at all times. Must make him feel "manly." It's
understandable why such behavior carried into this ng.
Mouse
:
:
: Dan
J H
hard-working corrections officers that day in, day out do a difficult and
thankless job.
There are jerks in any field of work. Yes, Chandler's comment was tasteless and
un-called for, and reflected more on himself than on his target. Let him speak
for himself, not for the profession.
Judy Hennessey
The Mouse
J H <jly...@directvinternet.com> wrote in message
news:3B612EDC...@directvinternet.com...
: Now, you've gone and done it. I have to put in a word for all of the
: hard-working corrections officers that day in, day out do a difficult and
: thankless job.
:
: There are jerks in any field of work. Yes, Chandler's comment was
tasteless and
: un-called for, and reflected more on himself than on his target. Let him
speak
: for himself, not for the profession.
I believe I've had enough contact with corrections department officers while
working as a crime reporter over a period of several years to witness one of
the most corrupt professions around. It wasn't hard for me to come to the
conclusions I did. I've witnessed these guys in action one too many times.
Additionally, I'm the daughter of not one, but two REAL law enforcement
officers. I don't hate cops; however corrections officers aren't fit to
clean a real law enforcement officer's toilet.
This really isn't the forum for this discussion, but I would NEVER malign an
entire profession without a good reason. And I have more than enough good
reasons, so I stand by my original statement.
That's the end of my discussion on the matter unless someone can find a way
to tie it into Titanic memorabilia or history.
Mouse
Dave Tuttle
Helen Dudley Bates <sisdudl...@aol.common> wrote in message
> >> Does God wear underwear?
> >>
> >> - Helen
>
> Dave Tuttle asked:
> >If so, boxers or briefs?
>
> And where does HE buy them?
> - Helen
Probably direct from Fruit of the Loom. (Be fruitful, and multiply, yall.
Wait a minute...MULTIPLY...okay that answers the last question----BOXERS!)
Dave Tuttle
Michael DiCola
"The Mouse" (house...@netzero.net) writes:
> I believe I've had enough contact with corrections department
> officers...
> ...
> That's the end of my discussion on the matter unless someone can find a way
> to tie it into Titanic memorabilia or history.
>
> Mouse
Well, I was going to say thank you for sinking that topic of conversation,
but maybe I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Helen Dudley Bates
>I know Helen can take care of herself. She's my heeeee-ro!
It's mutual, babe. How ya been?
How's the pup doing?
- Helen
dctcci
>should be the value
>(Daniel Allen Butler)
> After all, aren't corrections officers
>just wanna-be cops who couldn't make the cut?
Actually "Hammer" Corrections Officers are cops who make the cut better than
your average police officer because we have the guts to do what the others
won't
and what the regular guy like yourself (Hammer) wouldn't have the"BALLS" to do.
P.S. You haven't earned the right to call yourself "The Hammer" until you've
been locked down with criminals and risked your
life the way we do in order to protect cowards like yourself. So you wrote a
book
about TITANIC, big deal. That doesn't impress me very much.
Officer D. Chandler
Dept. Of Corrections
Helen Dudley Bates
>> After all, aren't corrections officers
>>just wanna-be cops who couldn't make the cut?
>
>Actually "Hammer" Corrections Officers are cops who make the cut better than
>your average police officer because we have the guts to do what the others
>won't
*choking on laughter*
>and what the regular guy like yourself (Hammer) wouldn't have the"BALLS" to
>do.
>P.S. You haven't earned the right to call yourself "The Hammer" until you've
>been locked down with criminals and risked your
>life the way we do in order to protect cowards like yourself.
Psst...since Mr. Butler is a public figure, it isn't too hard to look up his
background.
I would have, were I you, before I said what you just did. Then again, since I
already *do* know about his background, I wouldn't have even started this post.
>So you wrote a
>book
>about TITANIC, big deal. That doesn't impress me very much.
Obviously. You have to know how to read before you can appreciate authors.
- Helen
dctcci
>should be the value
>From: "The Mouse"
>This bozo is a corrections officer? Nothing more than a glorified
>rent-a-cop, eh? It explains his behavior perfectly. That's the job for
>the guys who can't make the cut as REAL cops! It explains his inability be
>respond appropriately. He's used to trying to victimize people.
>He doesn't
>even have to chase them down like the LAPD did to Rodney King. He's got
>"captive" victims at all times. Must make him feel "manly."
Let me explain something to you mouse.
True, we don't have to chase criminals like the LAPD do. There aren't any
victims in prison, just inmates. Until you've walked a day in my shoes don't
say any thing about my chosen profession. In a prison setting you have to watch
your back all the time because theres always the chance that you might get
shanked (Thats stabbed to all who don't know the corrections lingo).
As for your information, no it doesn't make me feel "manly" to see the waste of
human
life thats locked up behind bars. Do you think for one moment that if one of
these inhuman bags of trash broke out of a nearby prison, that they would give
a SHIT about your life. Who in the hell do you think tracks escape convicts?
Not the police dept. The Dept. Of Corrections takes the point. No, we're not
rent a cops.
we go thru a rigorous training process learning how to protect people like you.
A security officer is a rent-a-cop, they don't have any arrest powers.
Corrections Officers on the other hand do. Just like your average police
officer and we don't even need guns. Corrections Officers are perhaps the
bravest law enforcement professionals in the profession. We walk around all day
locked down with murderers, rapeist and all manner of violators, and we do our
job unarmed.
Now, when you can do that without fear,
you let me know. You can say what you want about me. I hear trash said about me
in the prison worse than anyone in this NG could ever come up with. It doesn't
bother me at all. Just don't knock the profession until you get the "BALLS" to
do the job that I do.
Daniel Allen Butler
(the rest of the meandering whine snipped for brevity and to avoid needless
nausea...)
Looks like you hit a nerve, Mouse! Rent-a-Cop Chandler can make rude and crude
remarks about other people, but when he gets hit with one or two pertinent (and
accurate) observations, he turns into a snivelling, whining little ball of
self-pity and self-justification. Pretty much what I expected....
Daniel Allen Butler
>been locked down with criminals and risked your
>life the way we do
Chandler, I spent eight years risking my life every day in ways you can't even
begin to imagine to protect cowards like you, so don't try to give me that
"walk a mile in my shoes" crap. That doesn't work here.
The Mouse
Poor wittle occifer.
--
Mouse
dctcci <dct...@aol.com> wrote in message
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: >Subject: Re: Frame of titanic with Melvina dean signature On ebay, What
The Mouse
: >Let me explain something to you mouse.
:
: (the rest of the meandering whine snipped for brevity and to avoid
needless
: nausea...)
:
: Looks like you hit a nerve, Mouse! Rent-a-Cop Chandler can make rude and
crude
: remarks about other people, but when he gets hit with one or two pertinent
(and
: accurate) observations, he turns into a snivelling, whining little ball of
: self-pity and self-justification. Pretty much what I expected....
Me too. He behaves just as expected.
I spent too many years dealing with corrections officers' victims. Corrupt
as hell and more violent than some of the criminals they are guarding.
Which is why his remarks to Helen weren't a surprise. Right now he's just
all pissed he can't treat us the way he treats his captives. We can talk
back and not get bones broken. Must raise his blood presssure something
fierce.
My heart bleeds.....NOT! Regardless, I can mouth off to him here and that's
ALL that may ever bleed. It's clear that pisses him off.
Mouse
:
:
: Dan
The Mouse
: Mouse wrote:
: >I know Helen can take care of herself. She's my heeeee-ro!
:
: It's mutual, babe. How ya been?
Same ole, same ole....
: How's the pup doing?
The Waffle Dog? All grown up (15 mos now) and so full of love. I still
miss his predecessor like crazy, but Waffles has found his own niche in my
heart. Their personalities are miles apart, but who wants a clone anyway?
Good to see you haven't lost your touch, Helen! Sic 'em!
Mouse
: - Helen
:
: http://www.dudleybates.com
The Mouse
<lots of worthless drivel snipped>
: : Not the police dept. The Dept. Of Corrections takes the point. No, we're
: not
: : rent a cops.
: : we go thru a rigorous training process learning how to protect people
like
: you.
Like ME? I've never spent a day behind bars in my life, except as an
observer. Remarks like that just further prove that you're so caught up in
the "Us v. Them" mentality that everyone is a criminal who questions you.
How is it you can make crude, uncalled for remarks to Helen, and when
someone comments on your motivations, all of a sudden you're a member of an
oppressed group?
You're the one who puts your profession out there for all to see, even if it
has little if no bearing on the newsgroup(s) to which you post. I don't go
around showing disrespect to law enforcement. I am the daughter of not one,
but two REAL cops. My mother was a Deputy Sheriff at a time when women
officers were damned rare, and she wasn't a glorified desk clerk either.
The time I've spent in correctional facilities was as a result of my work,
and I've seen the results of the corruption inside those walls. Generally,
the movies that are made about prisons are not accurate. It's WORSE.
Save your sob story for someone who'll fall for it. I won't. I KNOW what
good law enforcement officers look like, and it ain't you or any other of
your type. I've yet to see a corrections officer that's fit to clean the
toilets of real cops. Corrections officers are crude, abusive jerks. Wow!
What a coincidence! That's exactly how you behave here!
Mouse
: : A security officer is a rent-a-cop, they don't have any arrest powers.
:
:
The Mouse
: : dctcci <dct...@aol.com> wrote in message
:
: <lots of worthless drivel snipped>
: : : Not the police dept. The Dept. Of Corrections takes the point. No,
we're
: : not
: : : rent a cops.
: : : we go thru a rigorous training process learning how to protect people
: like
: : you.
:
: Like ME? I've never spent a day behind bars in my life, except as an
: observer. Remarks like that just further prove that you're so caught up
in
: the "Us v. Them" mentality that everyone is a criminal who questions you.
OK, OK....I blew it. Feeling defensive, I read it as "from people like
you".
My apologies on this one.
Mouse
:
: How is it you can make crude, uncalled for remarks to Helen, and when
: :
:
:
LeeShore
I love it!!!!! Nothing has changed since this group started years ago
as a sign on group run by some guy I can't remember. You all sound like the Erics of old.
Now I remember why I only come back once in a long, long, long, long while.
Don't bother replying I won't see it.