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Two Olympic-class Design Considerations I Never Understood:

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thekma...@gmail.com

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Jan 12, 2016, 7:35:23 AM1/12/16
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#1. For their LOA(overall length) - nearly 900', these were
relatively narrow ships(92' beam).


#2. For their overall size - the largest liners yet conceived
and built - their command centers(Bridge to most
folks) weren't located at least one deck above the
boat deck - something Cunard and the German lines
had done with their ships since the preceding century.
Would have improved sight lines all around, even
from the overhanging bridge wings. And would have
saved space on the boat deck for more passenger
public space by relocating officers accommodations
forward, beneath the bridge - a la Queen Mary(1936).


Just something to think about.

I'm the K-Man
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Martti Halminen

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Jan 12, 2016, 3:43:43 PM1/12/16
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On 12.01.2016 14:35, thekma...@gmail.com wrote:
> #1. For their LOA(overall length) - nearly 900', these were
> relatively narrow ships(92' beam).

There may have been some shipyard size limits, but anyway, not all that
odd dimensions for an Atlantic liner.

Some L/B ratios: (may be slightly inaccurate, as the Wikipedia pages I
referred aren't quite clear on which length is used in all cases, LOA or
LBP.)

Titanic 9.49
Mauretania 8.98
Imperator 9.21
Aquitania 9.28
Queen Elizabeth 8.73
United States 9.77
QE2 9.17

All Panamax cruise ships are close to QE2.
post-Panamax cruise ships are relatively wider:
Oasis of the Seas 7.69

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thekma...@gmail.com

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Jan 12, 2016, 4:04:00 PM1/12/16
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On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 3:43:43 PM UTC-5, Martti Halminen wrote:
Heyy Martti, another ol' stevedore, LOL!
Thanks for the figures, glad to know someone
out there still cares about things of a floating
nature.

Care to weigh in on my other recent post here?
It shows Titanic on sailing day, but there seems
to be a split among aficionados as to which ship
(Olympic or Titanic) is leaving that dock. In
the version I posted - a high quality one -
you can clearly make out T I T A N I C on the
port bow. Also, you can make out the smaller
glassed-in opening on the forward end of A-Deck
Promenade(highest deck below the boats, overhanging
slightly). Olympic's was never glassed in for
her entire career.

Several others insist it is Olympic, particularly
in versions of that same photo which were cropped,
or of inferior quality. They insist that at that
point in the departure, the same number of crew
members would be standing in the same exact spots
on both ships, and even the tug boat and the smoke
would be the same(???) They also claim that what
appear to be the glassed in section of Titanic's
promenade is just a shadow covering that part
of Olympic's port side. Come on! Really?!

Martti Halminen

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Jan 14, 2016, 7:56:41 PM1/14/16
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On 12.01.2016 23:04, thekma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Care to weigh in on my other recent post here?
> It shows Titanic on sailing day, but there seems
> to be a split among aficionados as to which ship
> (Olympic or Titanic) is leaving that dock. In
> the version I posted - a high quality one -
> you can clearly make out T I T A N I C on the
> port bow. Also, you can make out the smaller
> glassed-in opening on the forward end of A-Deck
> Promenade(highest deck below the boats, overhanging
> slightly). Olympic's was never glassed in for
> her entire career.
>
> Several others insist it is Olympic, particularly
> in versions of that same photo which were cropped,
> or of inferior quality. They insist that at that
> point in the departure, the same number of crew
> members would be standing in the same exact spots
> on both ships, and even the tug boat and the smoke
> would be the same(???) They also claim that what
> appear to be the glassed in section of Titanic's
> promenade is just a shadow covering that part
> of Olympic's port side. Come on! Really?!
>

In these days or Photoshop and relatives I don't trust too much to
photos, but that sure looks like Titanic.

Even the grainy version shows the extended bridge wing, which only shows
on wartime and newer photos of Olympic, and in that case there would
also need to be the new lifeboat arrangement.

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thekma...@gmail.com

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Jan 15, 2016, 10:49:08 PM1/15/16
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"In these days or Photoshop and relatives I don't trust too much to
photos, but that sure looks like Titanic.

Even the grainy version shows the extended bridge wing, which only shows "

THANK YOUUUUUU!

Tell Coombs or whatever that his
curator friend is wrong!
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