was the 4th smoke stack only for looks?
anonymous
was the 4th smoke stack only for looks? or did it really function on
the real titanic?
-s
LoneGnMan
It vented somke from the galley, and was used for storage.
Tony Dickson
Rene Bostelaar wrote in message <6bti4p$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
>Not just immigrants, but EVERYBODY felt a 4 stacker was a superior ship.
Was there ever a five-stacker? If more is better...
Jeff Loewy
I saw on some webpage that the 4th smokstack was fake because many
immigrants belived that the more smokestacks a ship had, the faster it
went, so they added a fake smokestack.
anonymous wrote:
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Rene Bostelaar
Jeff Loewy (alo...@frontiernet.net) writes:
> I saw on some webpage that the 4th smokstack was fake because many
> immigrants belived that the more smokestacks a ship had, the faster it
> went, so they added a fake smokestack.
>
Not just immigrants, but EVERYBODY felt a 4 stacker was a superiour ship.
The Olympic-class' main rivals were Cunard's Lusitania & Mauretania which
had 4 REAL stacks. Also, the Titanic looked more complete with 4 stacks,
she had cleaner lines. Other four stackers were the Kronprinsessin Eugin
Viktoria of Germany, and the Imperator (I think). Later, though, four
stackers fell out of favour, then three stackers (Queen Mary) then two
stackers (Andrea Doria??) and finally we arrive with the one stackers we
see today.
-ReN
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Rene Bostelaar (dc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
: Not just immigrants, but EVERYBODY felt a 4 stacker was a superiour ship.
: The Olympic-class' main rivals were Cunard's Lusitania & Mauretania which
: had 4 REAL stacks. Also, the Titanic looked more complete with 4 stacks,
: she had cleaner lines. Other four stackers were the Kronprinsessin Eugin
: Viktoria of Germany, and the Imperator (I think). Later, though, four
: stackers fell out of favour, then three stackers (Queen Mary) then two
: stackers (Andrea Doria??) and finally we arrive with the one stackers we
: see today.
Besides for looks and to attract customers, the fourth funnel had a
practical use: it was used for ventilation of the lower decks.
Patrick
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Jeff,
Yes the forth funnel was not actually used by an engine.
Quote "After her launch, Titanic was towed to Harland
and Wolff's fitting out basin. At the time of
launching, she was little more than a shell of
steel. She would eventually acquire her four
trademark funnels (the fourth of which was in
fact cosmetic) and the appointments that would
result in her being labeled a "floating palace." Unquote.
This is from the Titanic historic library at the Tehabi Book Store.
Hope this helps.
James.
Danny Meeuwessen
Jeff Loewy wrote in message <34E23C7E...@frontiernet.net>...
>I saw on some webpage that the 4th smokstack was fake because many
>immigrants belived that the more smokestacks a ship had, the faster it
>went, so they added a fake smokestack.
>
It was used for ventilation though (mainly the galleys). And it became 4
because it would give the ship better lines. Take a look at the Lusitania:
although she has 4 stacks, they're placed to far forward IMO and that spoils
the looks of the ship. About the same would happen to a Titanic with 3
funnels.
Danny
Rene Bostelaar
Exactly how I feel abouy Cunard's beauties. Also, they had a strange
second superstructure off to aft. The Aquatania, the last 4 stacker, had a
layout not unlike the other two Cunard 4 stackers, but not so extreeme.
She was scrapped in the thirties, like so many ships.
Rene Bostelaar
70 years before the Titanic, the Great Eastern was the biggest, safest,
most luxurious ship around. She was a 5 stacker. She was designed to get
all the way to India without filling up with coal, but she never made it
past the few north atlantic runs she did. After that she lay the first
trans-atlantic cable and then she became a floating billboard in New York.
Interesting note: Julles Vern was on the maiden voyage and it inspired his
fantastic vehicles in his books.
-ReN
EchoxStorm
>> It was used for ventilation though (mainly the galleys). And it became 4
>> because it would give the ship better lines. Take a look at the Lusitania:
>> although she has 4 stacks, they're placed to far forward IMO and that
>spoils
>> the looks of the ship. About the same would happen to a Titanic with 3
>> funnels.
>
>Exactly how I feel abouy Cunard's beauties. Also, they had a strange
>second superstructure off to aft. The Aquatania, the last 4 stacker, had a
>layout not unlike the other two Cunard 4 stackers, but not so extreeme.
>She was scrapped in the thirties, like so many ships.
>
>
>
I agree. While I liked the Mauretania's forward appearance very much, her
side profile looked...awkward. That's about as far as I can put it. The
Aquitania was somewhat better 'balanced', but she also had this feature.
BTW, the Aquitania lasted well past the thirties. She was retired in '49 and
scrapped in '50. I've seen a color picture of her -- I guess she was reverted
to cruise ship duty with the QM and QE around -- they painted her hull white. A
gigantic ship, though.
~Echo
D. Jenkins
Tony Dickson wrote in message <34e27...@bonaparte.pixi.com>...
>Rene Bostelaar wrote in message <6bti4p$c...@freenet-news.carleton.ca>...
>
>>Not just immigrants, but EVERYBODY felt a 4 stacker was a superior ship.
>
>
>Was there ever a five-stacker? If more is better...
>
There were a few. The only ship I can recall is a WWII ship, the Roper. It
wasn't an ocean liner though. There were some ocean liners, but I don't
recall their names. To my knowledge, there were no ships that had six.
BRITANNIC4
The Four Stackers:
British:
Lusitania (Cunard)1907
Mauritania (Cunard)1907
Olympic (White Star)1911
Titanic (White Star)1912
Britannic II (White Star)1914
Aquitania (Cunard) 1914
Arundel Castle (Union Castle Line) 1921
Windsor Castle (Union Castle Line) 1922
German:
Kaiser Willelm Der Grosse (North German Lloyd) 1897
Deutschland / Vistoria Luise / Hansa (HAPAG) 1900
Kronprinz Wilhelm (North German Lloyd) 1901
Kaiser WIlleln II (North German Lloyd) 1903
Kronprinzessin Ceicilie / USS Mount Vernon (North German Lloyd) 1906
French
France (French Line) 1912
L. W. Mahalak, III
In article <19980218030...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
brita...@aol.com (BRITANNIC4) wrote:
>The Four Stackers:
>
>British:
>
>Lusitania (Cunard)1907
>Mauritania (Cunard)1907
>Olympic (White Star)1911
>Titanic (White Star)1912
>Britannic II (White Star)1914
>Aquitania (Cunard) 1914
>Arundel Castle (Union Castle Line) 1921
>Windsor Castle (Union Castle Line) 1922
You asked about the fourth funnel on Titanic, and whether or not it was
just for looks. Yes. Titanic only had three reciprocating steam engines
below decks. But, the most luxurious liner in all the world with only
three funnels just wouldn't look proper, nor connote the power and speed a
shkp like Titanic projected... and it certainly would not have been right
if White Star Line's flagship wasn't the absolute best... and a smaller
rival with four stacks would have made Titanic look inferior. So, they
slapped a fourth, non-functioning funnel on her, thereby implying a fourth
engine... which would have been rather odd on a ship with only three
screws.
dood...@webtv.net
In response to "wolfrider":
Titanic only had two reciprocating engines with a turbine using exhaust
steam to turn the center propeller.
Only three funnels were used to exhaust the boilers smoke.
The fourth was for looks and a a vent for the aft kitchens.
-Dave
Christopher Hall
wolf...@mindspring.com (L. W. Mahalak, III) wrote:
...snip...
> Titanic only had three reciprocating steam engines
>below decks.
...snip...
Point of order here! Titanic had only two reciprocating main engines,
the middle propeller was driven by a steam turbine which used the
exhaust steam from the other engines.
Mauretania et al had pairs of turbine engines, two high pressure
turbines each coupled to a propeller and two low pressure turbines
again each with its own propeller.
No flame (nor steam) intended!
Chris.
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