TESTIMONIUM CLINTONIUM, circa A.D. 66(?):
About this time there lived Clintus, a wry man, if indeed one ought to
call Him a man. For He was one who performed surprising misdeeds and was
a teacher of such people as accept his untruth gladly. He won over many
Demophallic Demopublicans and many of the Republican Demopublicans. He
was The Stainmaker. . . . And the tribe of the Clintoons, so called
after Him, has still to this day not disappeared.
I like the bright moonlight, and the smoke belching from the dummy
funnel.
Where did you get it? Is it an illustration from a book of the period?
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Regards
Doug Urquhart
<email address mis-spelled to avoid spam>
I believe it was painted around the time of the disaster by a German
artist whose name I'm not sure of but I think the first name is Willy
and the last name is something like Stoehrer.
I thought someone among the regular ng groupies would have some
familiarity with it and clarify things like when it was painted, for
whom, the artist's correct name, etc. One thing that just came to mind:
it may simply have been an illustration for a newspaper or
magazine--this may explain why it doesn't seem to have any colors in it.
Also, someone on the ng had request a .jpg of it (last year?) for
wallpaper, so there it is at alt.binaries.clip-art, 640 X 480.
Sorry. Reckon I should have put Titanic in the subject line.
>> Again, questions I have include: What's
the name of the artist? Who was it done for? Where is the original?
Anything else? <<
Indeed the painting is "famous" in the sense of being one of the iconic images
of the disaster. As with many such visual cliches, however, often the more
technical details such as you seek have fallen by the wayside.
In other words, I at least am unable to answer your questions. Being a Titanic
"rivetcounter" (of sorts) and liner lover (in a BIG way), though, I *can* help
you with identifying historical/factual errors. As many are pretty obvious to
most people here, let me just touch upon one that may not be so obvious:
Titanic did not have that filigree pattern around her name on the stern.
AFAIK, that was characteristic of older and/or German liners. IIRC, the German
fourstackers had this design feature, as did at least one of Ballin's post-T
trio, Vaterland. (IIRC, THE ONLY WAY TO CROSS has a photo of Vaterland's stern
before her seizure by the US and another after with her new name, Leviathan, in
place. It was the juxtaposition of these pictures that made me realize that
the two names have, conveniently, exactly the same number of letters!)
Sorry I couldn't be more help. Perhaps if you tracked down which image source
owns it (Bill Gates's Corbis, which just purchased the Bettmann Archives?). I
think AltaVista also has a search feature that not only scans the Internet for
pictures but also looks into some proprietary databases.
Mike in Washington, DC
Andy MacAskill wrote:
> I've gone ahead and posted that which no one seems to know anything
> about (unless I missed a post--happens a lot) at alt.binaries.clip-art,
> a fine ng--not unlike this one. Again, questions I have include: What's
> the name of the artist? Who was it done for? Where is the original?
> Anything else?
> --
>
Please remove the "diespammerdie" to email directly.
> I think "that which no one seems to know anything about" is - What the
>hell are you attempting to say?
That's odd. I understand it completely.
My mind reading skills are a little rusty.
Delete "mind."
>See -even my post has more to do with the Titanic than yours does.
Is there a contest I don't know about?
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Half-baked Titanic theories galore at
http://198.223.97.17/titanic
Could the collision be avoided?
Hitting the iceberg head-on
How many could have been saved?
A tale of two icebergs
Could the ship have been kept afloat?
How many could Californian have saved?
"But this script can't sink!"
"She is made of irony, sir. I assure you, she can."