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Dan Goodman

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May 11, 2008, 2:36:14 AM5/11/08
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SolomonW wrote:

> @t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Wax.Phi...@gmail.com says...
> > For Want of a Nail, often touted as the most comprehensive, if not
> > plausible, alternate history in time, was noteworthy for coming up
> > with the idea of Kramer Associates- the Zaibatsu that became a
> > global power.
> >
> > In the future, what kind of similar non-national entities could
> > wield similar economic, military, and political powers?
> > Multinational corporations are one. I don't think religious groups
> > can- theocracies are nations, too. And I doubt that terrorist
> > organizations will ever become countries.
>
> The UN and the vatican would be an examples of such a power.

The UN has not had such power, and is unlikely to gain it in future.

The Vatican has not had such power since Italian revolutionaries took
down the Papal States.

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SolomonW

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May 11, 2008, 4:10:06 AM5/11/08
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In article <48269414$0$952$8046...@auth.newsreader.iphouse.com>,
dsg...@iphouse.com says...
> SolomonW wrote:
>
> > @m44g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Creative...@gmail.com says...
> > > Try posting it in alt.history.future.
> > >
> > Not really companies such as the Dutch East India Company and
> > Honourable East India Company would be historical companies who
> > conquered many states.
>
> Note, in the original post, the phrase "in the future."
>
>

But we are allowed to make PODs in the past and speculate what can
happen in the future.

eatfastnoodle

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May 23, 2008, 5:17:33 AM5/23/08
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On May 11, 2:36 pm, "Dan Goodman" <dsg...@iphouse.com> wrote:
> SolomonW wrote:
> > @t12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, Wax.Philoso...@gmail.com says...

> > > For Want of a Nail, often touted as the most comprehensive, if not
> > > plausible, alternate history in time, was noteworthy for coming up
> > > with the idea of Kramer Associates- the Zaibatsu that became a
> > > global power.
>
> > > In the future, what kind of similar non-national entities could
> > > wield similar economic, military, and political powers?
> > > Multinational corporations are one.  I don't think religious groups
> > > can- theocracies are nations, too.  And I doubt that terrorist
> > > organizations will ever become countries.
>
> > The UN and the vatican would be an examples of such a power.
>
> The UN has not had such power, and is unlikely to gain it in future.
>
> The Vatican has not had such power since Italian revolutionaries took
> down the Papal States.
>
> --
> Dan Goodman
> "I have always depended on the kindness of stranglers."
> Tennessee Williams,  A Streetcar Named Expire
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European Union definitely isn't a nation, but politically and
economically, maybe militarily in the future, Brussals wields more
power than most nations. And Vatican is a soveign country, a very very
small one, but a country nevertheless

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