Saxon burial at Southend
Vaughan Sanders
discovered in the grounds of Prittlewell Priory, Southend on Sea, Essex.
Speculation is towards it being the burial chamber of Saeberht, king of
the East Saxons, a pagan burial with 60 high status grave goods, but the
occupant was wearing two Italian gold leaf Christian crosses around his
neck. Saeberht was the nephew of Ethelberht of Kent and a contemporary
of Raedwald of East Anglia (Sutton Hoo)
The burial has lain undisturbed for 1400 years with the burial goods
still hanging on the walls of the wood lined chamber.
The excavation has been kept very secret as I have been passing it every
day without a clue to what was going on, other than the road widening
scheme that is planned for there. It's very close to the bridge over the
Liverpool Street rail line and must have only just been missed when the
Victorians built the line.
Jamie
Vaughan Sanders
"Vaughan Sanders" <ja...@chalkwell-windsurfing.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in
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http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/
Jamie
Mike
notice to see what they're talking about.
Allan Connochie
> A high status 7c Saxon burial, second only to Sutton Hoo has been
> discovered in the grounds of Prittlewell Priory, Southend on Sea, Essex.
> Speculation is towards it being the burial chamber of Saeberht, king of
> the East Saxons, a pagan burial with 60 high status grave goods, but the
> occupant was wearing two Italian gold leaf Christian crosses around his
> neck. Saeberht was the nephew of Ethelberht of Kent and a contemporary
> of Raedwald of East Anglia (Sutton Hoo)
> The burial has lain undisturbed for 1400 years with the burial goods
> still hanging on the walls of the wood lined chamber.
Saw it on the news and it looks amazing. Visited the Sutton Hoo exhibition
a couple of years back too.
Allan
Vaughan Sanders
"Allan Connochie" <co...@conno.greatxscape.net> wrote in message
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I'll take a look around there tomorrow and see what I can find out,
apparently the excavation started last autumn and they managed to keep
it all secret.
Jamie
Inger E Johansson
"Vaughan Sanders" <ja...@chalkwell-windsurfing.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i
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Two questions: Do you by any chance know if the dating is around 620 AD-630
AD?
and
which artifacts found identify them as Saxon?
I haven't seen anything about it in papers and news here in Sweden. Not even
the Culture news which normally at least talks about that this or that has
been found and where when things like this has been found. Do anyone of you
know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
Inger E
>
>
William Black
"Inger E Johansson" <inger_e....@notelia.com> wrote in message
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>
> Two questions: Do you by any chance know if the dating is around 620
AD-630
> AD?
> and
> which artifacts found identify them as Saxon?
>
> I haven't seen anything about it in papers and news here in Sweden. Not
even
> the Culture news which normally at least talks about that this or that has
> been found and where when things like this has been found. Do anyone of
you
> know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
The glass items found in the grave were identified as English and as Saxon
on the TV.
The main thing people were going on about were the two Christian crosses
around the neck of the (now dissolved)body
So definitely a Swedish pagan prince then...
--
William Black
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Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords
is no basis for a system of government
Inger E Johansson
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>
> "Inger E Johansson" <inger_e....@notelia.com> wrote in message
> news:uxSUb.48152$mU6.1...@newsb.telia.net...
> >
>
> > Two questions: Do you by any chance know if the dating is around 620
> AD-630
> > AD?
> > and
> > which artifacts found identify them as Saxon?
> >
> > I haven't seen anything about it in papers and news here in Sweden. Not
> even
> > the Culture news which normally at least talks about that this or that
has
> > been found and where when things like this has been found. Do anyone of
> you
> > know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
>
> The glass items found in the grave were identified as English and as Saxon
> on the TV.
>
> The main thing people were going on about were the two Christian crosses
> around the neck of the (now dissolved)body
>
> So definitely a Swedish pagan prince then...
While that could be the case if you look at today's borders I doubt it. If
dated to 620 AD - 640 AD I do have a hunch. But I would rather say that the
origin for the body while living might have been in Denmark more distinctly
Jutland. If it's dated to 690-700 AD we do have an other option in the area
in question, but lets wait for that.
Inger E
Vaughan Sanders
Inger this was only released Thursday (5 2 04), I heard it at 6.45 am on
the car radio on my way to work, I live less than 2 miles away. Priory
Park is a public area ,I know it well, the Priory is a museum. I know
the settlement at Prittlewell dates back to Neolithic times, this burial
has been discovered due to a road widening scheme that has a lot of
opposition from the greens (A127, the only single carriage way between
Thorpe Bay and London).
The greens think this has blocked the scheme the council says it hasn't,
I say, going by Sutton Hoo we are looking at a major Saxon burial field
around the Priory.
Jamie
Inger E Johansson
Jamie will you be so kind as to keep me informed? my mailbox is
inger_e....@telia.com. While I doubt the Saxon statement and think
more in an Anglian origin from the Frisian islands in north now belonging to
the Danes, you of course might be right. The interesting thing is if they
end up in the first 10 years period, if so I might have a name to put on
that person. You will be the first to know more if that's the case.
Inger E
>
> Jamie
>
>
Vaughan Sanders
Inger E Johansson
Thanks,
you wouldn't by any chance know someone you could ask if the sword is
double-edged?
I see it's right period or almost that.
I will think till tomorrow and look at the links given in the article. I
might be on to something.
Inger E
>
David B.
>
>The greens think this has blocked the scheme the council says it hasn't,
>I say, going by Sutton Hoo we are looking at a major Saxon burial field
>around the Priory.
Jamie's message illustrates an interesting point- the archaeologists
carefully use the term "Anglo-Saxon", but in modern English, the word
"Saxon" is used almost synonymously with the hyphenated term. As it
happens, one really would expect "Saxon" rulers in Essex, but the point
remains...
David B.
Sajo Markecz
"David B." <dav...@tronospamchos.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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English are of mixed Germanic , Celtic , Roman , and Iberian stock since
ancient times . In 1997 in the West Midlands of England a female adult
skeleton dating from around 3000 B.C. was found , and subsequent D.N.A.
tests found a direct adult male descendant of the dead woman living either
30 kilometers or 30 miles away in a town where he was either a teacher or
the head master at a local high school . This means that he has Iberian ,
Celtic , Roman , and Germanic ancestry , as the Celts did not arrive in the
two post - Ice Age continental European islands of Britain and Ireland until
2000 B.C. onwards . The pre - Norman Conquest Old English language shows in
its surviving manuscripts and inscriptions many Germanic words influenced by
the Celtic Briton and Latin languages in terms of prefixes , suffixes ,
inflections , pronunciation , accent , syntax , spelling , and loan words ,
when compared with the various dialects of the continental Germans .
The reason why the former Roman colonies in Wales , Cornwall , and southern
Lowland Scotland remained largely Celtic rather than Latin speaking , unlike
the formerly Celtic Roman province of Transalpine Gaul now known as France
and Belgium , was because Wales and Cornwall were part of the far flung
frontier provinces of the Roman Empire which attracted relatively few
permanent Latin - speaking colonists , and Britain after all has been a
continental European island since the gradual melting of the last Ice Age
raised world sea levels . Cisalpine Gaul was located where what is now the
northern Italian plain of the Po River Valley , the region of Italy called
Lombardy . Cisalpine Gaul was invaded and settled in the 300's B.C. by the
Celts , followed by the Germanic Visigoths , Ostrogoths , Heruls , Sciri ,
and Gepidae in the 400's A.D. , and then by the Germanic Lombards in the
late 500's and early 600's A.D.
The isolated nature of Ireland from Britain , and even more from continental
Europe , explains why remnants of Celtic paganism in the form of
superstitious beliefs in banshees , leprechauns , halloween , mistletoe ,
kelpies , and four - leaf clovers persisted among the ordinary Irish
peasantry side by side with Roman Catholic Christianity for such a long time
. Even by 407 A.D. , when the last Roman field troops left Wales , Cornwall
, southern Lowland Scotland and England , there were still many poor peasant
farmers and first - generation urban slum immigrants of peasant background
who believed in both Celtic and Greco - Roman paganism , and who spoke
Celtic dialects as their first language , for example the semi - legendary
Druid priest called Merlin , although Christians by this time formed a
sizeable proportion of the Romano - British middle and upper classes , most
of whom were fluent in both Celtic dialects and Latin .
Armorica or Brittany in northwest France turned out to be a Celtic enclave
because that part of Gaul has thin , rocky soils , and because many Celtic
refugees from Britain sought refuge there after the Germanic seaborne
invasions of Britain after 407 A.D. With the Roman field armies of Britain
gone , central authority soon collapsed as there was no more means to
enforce it , and the Romano - British Celtic tribes soon reverted to the
tribal civil warfare that had existed before the Roman conquest of Britain ,
making them thereby an easier prey for the Anglian , Saxon , Jutish , and
Frisian invaders . However , the Germanic conquest of post - Roman Britain
was held up for a while by a certain Romano - Celtic British warlord
chieftain called Ambrosius Aurelianus , who may have been the real King
Arthur , and by Riothamus or Riothamnus , who may have been the real
Lancelot , in around 500 A.D. , although after their deaths the Celtic
tribes once more reverted to civil clan warfare , and the common resistance
offered to the Anglo - Saxon Germanic invaders subsequently collapsed . The
Germanic Frankish , Burgundian , Visigothic , and Ostrogothic peoples who
invaded France or Gaul after the Romans had exhausted themselves in imperial
dynastic civil wars that lasted from 383 - 388 , 392 - 394 , and 406 - 432
A.D. , and after the Gaulish Baugadae or vagabond peasant revolt of 435 -
437 A.D. , found it more valuable to learn Latin then Celtic , unlike their
fellow Germanic brethren who invaded Britain by sea . The Germanic invaders
of Gaul could invade in larger numbers by horseback on land , than the
Germanic invaders of Britain could do by sea , as they had no sea barrier
like the Strait of Dover , the English Channel , and the North Sea to cross
.
The reason why Romania in the Balkans , once part of the former Roman
province of Dacia [ 106 - 271 A.D. ] turned out to be a Latin enclave
surrounded by Slavic - speaking and Hungarian or Magyar - speaking peoples ,
was because the Roman province yielded valuable gold and silver mines for
the Roman colonists , although towards the end of the Roman rule of Dacia
the gold and silver mines were mainly exhausted , since the ancient deep -
shaft mining techniques were not as advanced as today . During the times of
various foreign invasions from other quarters that were to follow after 271
A.D. , when the Roman imperial authorities withdrew their last field troops
and civil servants from the province of Dacia , the Romanized and Latinized
Dacians were often able to retreat for safety into the many forested
mountains and hills of Romania , and with the less advanced farming and
transport techniques of the ancient world as compared with that of today ,
the forests of ancient Roman Europe covered a far larger area . Before the
Roman conquest , the Dacians spoke an Indo - European language related to
the Ilyrian-Thracian-Phrygian branch , of which only the Albanian dialect
remains today as a living language . The rest of the Balkan Albanians
sexually intermingled , ethnically mixed , or miscegenated , and culturally
and linguistically assimilated with the Slavic tribes that invaded the
Balkan peninsula in around 570 - 650 A.D. , followed by the Hungarians or
Magyar invaders in around 890 - 955 A.D. The Croats , Serbs , and the
ethnically Serbian akin Montenegrins , Slovenes , and Northern Slavic
Bulgarian - speaking Macedonians , as opposed to the Southern Greek -
speaking Macedonians , of whom Alexander the Great was a member , arrived in
the Balkans as ethnically and politically distinct but distantly related
Slavic - speaking tribespeople . The Slavs of Bulgaria , who arrived in the
region during the late 500's A.D. , were conquered in the early 600's A.D.
by the less numerous Turkic - speaking people called the Bulgars , a fierce
and well organised group of semi - nomadic warrior horsemen and herders .
The people living within the borders of the modern day nation state of
Germany are not ethnically homogenous by ethnic ancestry , since the German
colonists who followed in the wake of the crusading order of knights called
the Teutonic Knights , accompanied by Christian missionaries of the
Cistercian order from 1150 A.D. onwards , ethnically mixed , intermarried ,
concubined , sexually intercoursed , and raped with the Slavic ethnic groups
known as the Wends , Pomeranians , Abodrites , and Sorbs [ Serbs ] , and the
Baltic Indo - European people called the Prussians , Lithuanians , and
Latvians who lived east of the Elbe and Saale Rivers . These people were
mostly pagans or polytheists , with the exception of the Roman Catholic
Slavic Poles , but were gradually converted to Christianity by force , and
soon became culturally assimilated with the German invaders , often adopting
the German language and customs over many generations , and losing or
heavily diluting their own in the process . South of the Main River and west
of the Rhine River lived many Celtic tribes who subsequently became first
Latinized by Roman invaders , and then by Germanic invaders . The Celts by
500 B.C. had extended their territory by conquest as far east as the Weser
River and as far north as the Thuringian Mountains , after which they were
gradually conquered by the Germanic tribes , losing their ethnic identity by
cultural assimilation in favour of their new Germanic masters , who also
spoke an Indo - European language as the Celts did . Both the Slavs , Celts
, and Germans were homestead , hamlet , village and small town farmers and
herders of domesticated animals , and both of them had a three - tiered
society with slaves , freemen , and warrior - nobles . The warrior
chieftains or warlords had their private armies of light cavalry and hall
bodyguards who lived with them in fortified homesteads , often located on a
hill or artificially created mound , protected by stake fences , ditches ,
moats , bogs , marshes , and swamps . This way of life was once common to
all Indo - European speaking peoples , even with the Greeks and Romans
before they became large town and city dwellers , in other words , before
they became civilised .
The Romans in the early years of the Empire made several attempts to conquer
the Germanic lands as far as the Elbe River , but by the time that the
Romans were ready to conquer what is today part of the modern day nation -
state of Germany , the Roman armies were already overstretched in
maintaining their geographically vast and ethnically diverse empire .
Moreover , the Romans suffered a severe setback when the legions under the
command of the Roman general Quinctilius Varus were ambushed in several
guerrilla - style attrition attacks in the heavily forested and mountainous
Teutoburger Wald in A.D. 9 by the warriors of the Germanic chieftain called
Arminius , a former pro - Roman mercenary soldier . This defeat for the
Romans was soon enough avenged by the Roman armies led by the Roman general
called Germanicus Caesar who led a campaign into the lands of the Germanic
tribes living east of the Rhine River from 14 - 17 A.D. , inflicting several
defeats on the Germans , including wounding Arminius and recapturing the
stolen legionary colours of Varus in 16 A.D. However , Germanicus Caesar was
hampered by the loss of two Roman reinforcement transport fleets in North
Sea storms , and the then undrained and uncleared swamps , marshes , bogs ,
lakes , and forests of the North German Plain . Moreover , the Roman Emperor
Tiberius [ r. 14 - 37 A.D. ] was jealous and fearful of the success of
Germanicus Caesar , and ordered the abandonment of efforts to conquer the
Germanic lands as far east as the Elbe River , or maybe even further east to
the Oder - Western Niesse Rivers , to be distinguished from the Eastern
Neisse River . The Oder - Western Neisse River is the internationally
recognised border that exists between Poland and Germany today .
The Sahara , Arabian , and Central Asian deserts during the early and middle
stages of Inter - Glacial periods between major Ice Ages has been a tropical
savanna grassland and light scrub land and light woodland , with lakes ,
swamps , and rivers and large animal herds . This far more fertile then
present Sahara existed from 128,000 - 113,000 B.C. , 26,000 - 20,000 B.C. ,
and 8000 - 4000 B.C. During the dry desert intervals , the Berbers of North
Africa and the Arabs of the Middle East , both of whom are distant cousins
to each other , retreated to the desert oases and the Mediterranean forests
of the Atlas Mountains of what is now part of northern Morocco , Algeria ,
and Tunisia , and the Mediterranean forests of the coastal mountains , hills
, and plains of what is now part of Syria , Lebanon , Israel , and Palestine
. These forests have been mostly removed by centuries of overgrazing ,
overcultivation , and deforestation which has resulted in serious erosion .
At the height of the last Ice Age , in around 17,000 B.C. , when
temperatures were at their coldest , the Atlas Mountains and the Lebanon
Mountains had increased rainfall and higher levels of snowfall then today ,
with the highest peaks even having minor glaciers . Even today , the highest
peaks of the Atlas and Lebanon mountains have light to moderate winter snow
fall .
During the height of the last Ice Age , when sea levels were 130 meters
lower than today , before the gradual melting of the ice sheets and glaciers
gradually raised sea levels again to their current position , a near land
bridge existed in what is now the Strait of Gibraltar that separates Morocco
from Spain , as well as the sea between Sicily and Tunisia , and there were
complete land bridges where the Strait of Dover separates France from
England , where the Irish Sea separates Ireland from Britain , the Strait of
Messina separates Sicily from Italy , the now shallow waters of the northern
Adriatic Sea , formerly an Ice Age plain , and the Straits of Bosphorus [
Byzantium , Constantinople , or Istanbul ] and the Hellespont [ the
Dardanelles or Gallipoli and the Troad ] , separate Thracian or European
Turkey from Anatolian or Asian Turkey . Using these land bridges and ancient
wooden and reed rafts and the wooden frame , animal hide covered boats ,
human populations travelled both to and from Europe , Asia , and Africa , as
did also the Melanesians and Negritos of South East Asia who arrived by
means of island hopping in New Guinea , Australia , and Tasmania , which
then formed one single continent during the Ice Age , and thereby became the
ancestors of the Australian Aborigines , and as the Mongoloid Asians and
Ainu crossed the prehistoric Ice Age land bridge called Beringia that used
to connect Siberia and North America , thereby becoming the ancestors of the
American Indians or Amerindians and their cousins the Eskimos or Inuit . The
reason why the Australian Aboriginal people of King and Flinders Island ,
located in what is today Bass Strait , a stretch of water that separates the
Australian mainland from the island and Australian state called Tasmania ,
became extinct when the sea levels gradually rose after the gradual melting
away of the Ice Age , and thereby cutting off the Bassian Plain land bridge
that used to connect Australia and Tasmania , was because the islands were
too small in area to sustain a semi - nomadic tribal population of hunter -
gatherers , not having enough animal and plant life to sustain for the
long - term a hunter - gatherer population . Also , there was a severe
period of drought on King and Flinders island from 4000 - 2000 B.C. , and
even to this day fresh water is hard to find on these islands during summer
. When the Europeans visited these islands for the first time for themselves
in the late 1700's and early 1800's , they found them to be uninhabited of
humans .
Surreyman
>
Do anyone of you
> know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
>
The Southend Standard? :-))
Surreyman
Vaughan Sanders
Some pictures of the site.
http://freespace.virgin.net/vaughan.sanders/southendsaxon.html
The site is just outside Priory Park on the opposite side of Priory
Crescent very close to the main London (Liverpool Street) rail line.
Some Saxon artefacts were discovered here in 1920 when I presume the
road bridge in the picture was built.
I had a word with the curator of the Priory museum, he says a geo
physics survey was done on the park last year but only showed earlier
buildings (the Priory is 900 years old), but I wouldn't expect that any
geo physic findings would be made public.
Most of the surrounding area has been built on, but just on the other
side of the rail line there is a large playing field. The surrounding
houses are quite old and built on shallow spread footings, four close by
are subject to a compulsory purchase order for the new road.
The grave artefacts are on display at the Museum of London for ten days
and then are to be brought back to Southend museum. I don't know what
condition the sword was in but I'll let you know when I find out.
Jamie
Inger E Johansson
"Surreyman" <spe...@opps-press.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
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Yeah, Yeah but for more information .......
Inger E
>
> Surreyman
Inger E Johansson
thanks.
Btw. did you notice the difference at least in the drawing for the shield
contra the ordinary Saxon shields?
Inger E
>
> Jamie
>
>
William Black
>
> "Surreyman" <spe...@opps-press.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> news:1faf4bc.04020...@posting.google.com...
> > Do anyone of you
> > > know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
> > >
> >
> > The Southend Standard? :-))
>
> Yeah, Yeah but for more information .......
Watch this space.
Anyone want to make a bet about how long before the big BBC special?
Inger E Johansson
>
> "Inger E Johansson" <inger_e....@notelia.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Surreyman" <spe...@opps-press.fsnet.co.uk> skrev i meddelandet
> > news:1faf4bc.04020...@posting.google.com...
>
> > > Do anyone of you
> > > > know which papers and journals I can look in for more information.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The Southend Standard? :-))
> >
> > Yeah, Yeah but for more information .......
>
> Watch this space.
>
> Anyone want to make a bet about how long before the big BBC special?
I only bet on English football. (Soccer)
Inger E
Vaughan Sanders
snip
Why do you think it's different?. I think only the centre boss usually
survives but they can tell the shape from the stains in the soil.
This is a replica of the Sutton Hoo shield, I would think only the
graphics are open to debate.
http://freespace.virgin.net/vaughan.sanders/suthoo.html
I notice that they didn't do any geophysics on anything that had trees
growing, I walked along the park opposite the grave to see if anything
had been disturbed much of it has dense sapling growth.
Jamie
Inger E Johansson
Have you seen the thin shields found in Västergötland the other year. I will
try to find an url for them. If I recall it correctly they were taken from
enemy-soldiers and sacrefized in a swamp. Someone said they look like those
from Jutland. I don't know but they look alike the drawing.
>
> This is a replica of the Sutton Hoo shield, I would think only the
> graphics are open to debate.
> http://freespace.virgin.net/vaughan.sanders/suthoo.html
We can discuss that later when the new findings can be seen on photos.
>
> I notice that they didn't do any geophysics on anything that had trees
> growing, I walked along the park opposite the grave to see if anything
> had been disturbed much of it has dense sapling growth.
Inger E
>
> Jamie
>
>
FF
Thanks for that fearless piece of research:-) It's always interesting to actually see
a location, and the layers of history in the world around us fascinate me. I'm sure
the individuals who performed the burial went to a great deal of trouble and would be
horrified to see how things had changed.
Liz
FF
Looks like Raedwald got sent off by the ref!
Have you got any more bits and bobs like that tucked away on your site?
Liz
Vaughan Sanders
"William Black" <black_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Funny you should say that William, from Friday nights Echo.
Sian Price, from the Channel 4 show Time Team, said "Tony Robinson is
going to Southend to support the protestors and campaign for more
excavations".
Jamie
Ron Grainger
"FF" <fuchsi...@excite.com> wrote in message snip
Looks like Raedwald got sent off by the ref!
No the Southend RUFC didn't play there until after WW1
Ron
Vaughan Sanders
What is intriguing about this burial is the two Christian crosses that
have been placed on the chest of the deceased.
http://www.museumoflondon.org.uk/MOLsite/exhibits/prittlewell/pages/object_crosses.htm
The major question in Anglo-Saxon England of this period was whether to
convert to Christianity. Ethelbert of Kent was Bretwalda (High King of
all the AS lands south of the Humber), his wife was a Christian Frankish
princess who talked him into inviting St Augustine to England. Raedwald
on a visit to Ethelbert at Canterbury was converted to Christianity but
on return to East Anglia his wife made him recant. Ethelbert's nephew
Sabert, through his sister Ricula was king of the East Saxons and was
converted by Bishop Mellitus in AD 604.
Both Ethelbert and Sabert died in AD 616 and Kent and Essex reverted to
Paganism for a time.
Bede ii 5
"The death of the Christian King Sabert of the East Saxons aggravated
the situation, for he left three sons, all pagans, to inherit his
realms". These were quick to profess idolatry, which they had pretended
to abandon during the lifetime of their father, and encouraged their
people to return to the old gods".
Sabert is the prime suspect for this grave, could his sons have buried
him as Pagan and someone sneaked in the crosses.
Jamie
Vaughan Sanders
The ref is one of the archeologists responsible for the dicovery of the
horse burial at Sutton Hoo, I was just lucky that Raedwald was there for
a publicity shoot for the Sutton Hoo Society Magazine on that day.
I've sneaked a couple of bits of history onto the windsurf club web page
http://www.chalkwellwindsurfing.org
Check out the *early history* button, and the *magnetic mine* button
might be of interest.
Jamie
Surreyman
With the detail carefully checked first? :-))
Surreyman
William Black
"Surreyman" <spe...@opps-press.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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I doubt we'll be finding dead archaeologists littering the woods if it
isn't.
Although, in a couple of cases, hope springs eternal...
Inger E Johansson
Well he doesn't fit in with the items as I see it.
Inger E
> Jamie
>
>
>
>
Martin Reboul
Oh no! That should put an end to it all... all we need now is two men in a
trench to join in, and archaeology can be forgotten...
Cheers
Martin
Vaughan Sanders
The other candidate is Sigebert in AD 653, he was a friend of King Oswy
of Northumbria, it was Oswy who converted Sigebert to Christianity and
sent St Cedd into Essex.
It seems unlikely he would have had a Pagan burial.
Jamie
FF
<ja...@chalkwell-windsurfing.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
I thought it was you!! LOL
>I've sneaked a couple of bits of history onto the windsurf club web page
>http://www.chalkwellwindsurfing.org
>Check out the *early history* button, and the *magnetic mine* button
>might be of interest.
Doh! I should look more closely, shouldn't I?!
Liz