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Shield Wolf

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Hi Everyone,
I have a 69 Charger and I'm going out to get tires this
week. I'm getting BF Goodrich Radial T/A. I'm using the stock magnum 500
style wheel and its 14 x 7. I want to put 245-60's on it all around. I was
under there with the tape measure and my tongue out but you know how that
goes. Has anyone else done this? What is the max tire size I can get? My
back spacing looks like 5 inches.

Thanks
Randy

fly_on_the_wall

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Apr 16, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/16/00
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Have the tire shop mount one on your rim and see how it fits.

245-60-14's should easily fit. I have 255-60-15's with no problem on my '69
Charger.

-Andrew

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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fly_on_the_wall wrote in message <38FA6E07...@mcn.net>...

>Have the tire shop mount one on your rim and see how it fits.
>
>245-60-14's should easily fit. I have 255-60-15's with no problem on my
'69
>Charger.
>
>-Andrew


Is that on front and back?
I'm running 245-60-14's on magnums on a 69 Charger right now and will be
going to something bigger later on down the road. Does anyone know what's
the largest thing (size, width) I can fit under there without tubbing?

Carl Beyer

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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I've got 255-55 - 15 on the rear, and I have heard that you can get 285
- 15's to work. But, the Rim is the key to the whole thing. Above 255
I beleive you have to get the offset custom made.

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Steve Lacker

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Shield Wolf wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I have a 69 Charger and I'm going out to get tires this
> week. I'm getting BF Goodrich Radial T/A. I'm using the stock magnum 500
> style wheel and its 14 x 7. I want to put 245-60's on it all around. I was
> under there with the tape measure and my tongue out but you know how that
> goes. Has anyone else done this? What is the max tire size I can get? My
> back spacing looks like 5 inches.

245-60 R14's on 14x6 Magnum 500's works fine- thats what I have on my '69
Coronet R/T. However, be advised that the overall diameter of that combo is a
bit smaller than the OEM tires, so your speedo will read high and you'll run
a few hundred more RPM at 70 mph.

-- Stephen G. Lacker
sglacker at texas dot net
"Turn off your blinding fog lights, hang up, and DRIVE!"


Frank Filipanits

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Shield Wolf wrote:

> I have a 69 Charger and I'm going out to get tires this
> week. I'm getting BF Goodrich Radial T/A. I'm using the stock magnum 500
> style wheel and its 14 x 7. I want to put 245-60's on it all around. I was
> under there with the tape measure and my tongue out but you know how that
> goes. Has anyone else done this? What is the max tire size I can get? My
> back spacing looks like 5 inches.

There was a mention of this in the Feb 1998 issue of Mopar Muscle.
They asked Stockton Wheel about the largest wheel/tire combo for
Mopars. Here's what they said:

'67 -'76 A-Body: 15x8 wheel, 4.5" backspacing, 235/60R15 or 245/60R15
'68 -'70 B-Body: 15x8 wheel, 4.5" backspacing, 295/50R15 or 275/60R16
'70 -'74 E-Body: 15x8 wheel, 4.5" backspacing, 235/60R15 or 245/60R15

I'm pretty sure they were talking about the rears, though, not the
front.

You will have no problem with 245/60R14 on the rear; that's what I am
running right now on my '68 Charger. You can probably get by with that
on the front as well.

I've had 245/50R15 front 265/50R15 rear on mine without rubbing but the
tires are so much shorter than stock that it drops your ground
clearance to almost nothing.

My current plan is to go for 235/60R15 either all the way around or
235/60R15 front and 275/50R15 rear. That keeps the stock tire diameter
(~26 inches) at all four corners. My rims are 15x8.5 with 3.5"
backspacing. The fitment of your tire will depend on the backspacing
of your rims.

If you're looking for raised white letter radials, BF Goodrich T/As
come in the widest selection of 14 and 15 inch sizes. It is
challenging, however, to find speed-rated tires in classic musclecar
sizes. BF Goodrich last year had the 235/60R15 size in their Comp T/A
line catalog, but was out of stock with no scheduled production date
for the six months I kept inquiring.

Best of luck to you in your quest.

Shield Wolf

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Thanks guys, I'm going with the 245-60's. I want all 4 to be the same size
so if I can't get any larger on the front the rear will stay.

Randy

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Randem

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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The shit echoed loudly as it hit the fan, and - commented:

> I'm running 245-60-14's on magnums on a 69 Charger right now and will be
> going to something bigger later on down the road. Does anyone know what's
> the largest thing (size, width) I can fit under there without tubbing?


The key to tire sizes is in the size of the rim.

For example, a 235/60R15 tire has a tread width of 235 mm, aspect
ratio of 60% and a 15" ID.
The same tire could be mounted on a variety of rim sizes. On a 6" rim,
it will make the tires taller and narrower, but on a 6.5" rim, they will
be shorter and wider.

It's best to keep the full footprint of the tread on the ground, and not
rolled over, but without rolling out the sidewalls.

In theory, if you're running 245/60R14's and you change to 15" rims, you
could put 235/60R14's and keep approximate dimensions.

Measure your clearances, and take note of your current backspacing.
Then select a set of rims and tires that will take advantage of them
without rubbing. Don't forget to turn the tires when checking
clearances, and consider things like calipers and brake lines that also
have to fit.

-Randem

Carl Beyer

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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>
> If you're looking for raised white letter radials, BF Goodrich T/As
> come in the widest selection of 14 and 15 inch sizes. It is
> challenging, however, to find speed-rated tires in classic musclecar
> sizes. BF Goodrich last year had the 235/60R15 size in their Comp T/A
> line catalog, but was out of stock with no scheduled production date
> for the six months I kept inquiring.
>
> Best of luck to you in your quest.

Due to this fact I chose Dunlops. Got the size I need, speed rated
correctly, and raised lettering.. Some people say that it isn't cool to
have anything but a "muscle" tire on a car (Goodrich), but I am quite
pleased with how these tires perform and thats the most important thing.

Carl

Shield Wolf

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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I too have a 383. I don't plan on visiting Bonneville anytime soon. I'm sure
whatever speed rating the BFG's are will be more than adequate for my
driving style. I know, I'm no fun at all.

Randy

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fly_on_the_wall

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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Front and Back. They are on 15x7 rims. I have a very slight rubbing if I
really cramp it and hit a bump.

Rear still has lots of room with reverse offset 15x7 Keystones.

It had G60-15 Firestone Super Sports on it when I bought the car. They
looked cool, but I don't know if they are still available.

Saw a set on a '69 Hemi Charger at a car show, but owner was not to be found.

-Andrew

- wrote:

> fly_on_the_wall wrote in message <38FA6E07...@mcn.net>...
> >Have the tire shop mount one on your rim and see how it fits.
> >
> >245-60-14's should easily fit. I have 255-60-15's with no problem on my
> '69
> >Charger.
> >
> >-Andrew
>
> Is that on front and back?

Remo

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Apr 17, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/17/00
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I put 265-50-15s under my 68. Of course the front tires rub a little if you
really crank it, (Like power-steering-pump-squealing cranking) and the tie
rod end is a little close to the tire for comfort. They fit though. I think
I could have gotten away with 275s on the back.

Perhaps I went a little too far, but 245-60s should fit fine.

I think I used 4 1/2" backspacing. I rigged a little device using angle iron
and universal thread to check for fitment, and to figure backspacing, before
I ordered my rims. They won't let you return them once something has be
mounted on them.


"Shield Wolf" <shie...@sgi.net> wrote in message
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> Hi Everyone,


> I have a 69 Charger and I'm going out to get tires this
> week. I'm getting BF Goodrich Radial T/A. I'm using the stock magnum 500
> style wheel and its 14 x 7. I want to put 245-60's on it all around. I was
> under there with the tape measure and my tongue out but you know how that
> goes. Has anyone else done this? What is the max tire size I can get? My
> back spacing looks like 5 inches.
>

> Thanks
> Randy
>
>

Carl Beyer

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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In article <sfn6n7...@corp.supernews.com>, "Shield Wolf"
<shie...@sgi.net> wrote:

> I too have a 383. I don't plan on visiting Bonneville anytime soon. I'm
> sure
> whatever speed rating the BFG's are will be more than adequate for my
> driving style. I know, I'm no fun at all.
>
> Randy
>

Not in the least. I remember when I was getting my tires that because
the front were going to be a bit narrower than the rear, (215's and
255's) I had a tire height issue that BFG could not help me with.

The BFG's are great tires, and the reality is that I have yet to get
above 110 in the charger (lack of open road).

Steve Lacker

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Carl Beyer wrote:

> >
> > If you're looking for raised white letter radials, BF Goodrich T/As
> > come in the widest selection of 14 and 15 inch sizes. It is
> > challenging, however, to find speed-rated tires in classic musclecar
> > sizes.

So what? That "speed rating" is only an indicator of how amenable to
*sustained* high-speed driving the tire is. Unless you want to cruise for
hours at 110+ mph, then BFG Radial T/A's are perfect. They won't "fly
apart" just because you make a quick burst to 130 or some other ludicrous
speed.

And as for the person who recommended Dunlops- I hope your experience
doesn't play out the same as mine did. I LOVED the tires for about 20,000
miles... then all 4 suffered massive internal cord failures within a few
months of each other, developing big bulges in the tread and resulting in
terrible vibrations (one actually blew out while the car was in storage!)
I'm never buying another Dunlop tire... EVER.

Frank Filipanits

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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In article <sfn6n7...@corp.supernews.com>, Shield Wolf
<shie...@sgi.net> wrote:

> I too have a 383. I don't plan on visiting Bonneville anytime soon. I'm sure
> whatever speed rating the BFG's are will be more than adequate for my
> driving style. I know, I'm no fun at all.

Basic tires are usually rated for 80 MPH continuous use, which is not
particularly high these days. Exceptionally hot pavement (ie. I-5
through California in the summertime) can also effectively lower the
safety margin, as it is primarily a problem of heat dissipation.

I was also quite surprised the first time I drove one of my vehicles
with speed-rated tires (Goodyear Gatorbacks). The difference in
control at the limits of adhesion are remarkable -- the non-rated Eagle
GT's previously on the car went very quickly and suddenly from full
traction to zero traction. By contrast, the Gatorbacks have a much
wider transition and I found the vehicle (a '68 Mustang) much, much
easier to control in a skid, rapid acceleration, or sudden braking.

This last bit -- improved braking performance -- is one item I think
folks often overlook when saying "oh, I don't need a high-performance
tire, I'm never going to drive 120".

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