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how to cut whip of 2 meter antenna ?

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James

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Jul 18, 2010, 1:58:14 PM7/18/10
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I need to "trim" the steel whip of a two meter antenna, and have not been
sucessful in finding an easy way to cut. Tried a vise-grip with its
close-in pinchers, and also tried a heavy duty pair of wire cutters, but no
go.

What common tool can be used to do this ? This steel whip sure is tough
!!


Thanks !!


73 de Jim K4PYT


Leon Whyte

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Jul 18, 2010, 2:27:21 PM7/18/10
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I use a small rotary grinder to cut a line around the whip and snap it apart in a vice.

--
Leon
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1hogrider

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Jul 18, 2010, 2:42:40 PM7/18/10
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Dremel tools are your friend. Use a small abrasive disc wheel.

Andy
W4KDN

James

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Jul 18, 2010, 3:03:54 PM7/18/10
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Good ideas, thanks to Andy and Leon.

I will try to borrow a dremel.

james


Ralph Mowery

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Jul 18, 2010, 3:12:47 PM7/18/10
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"James" <jnipp...@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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I usually use the side of a grinder wheel to cut it off. If I do not have
one handy, then I use a triangle shaped file. I often cut it part of the
way and then snap it off with the pliers. It usually takes bolt cutters to
cut the antenna and then the cut off piece goes out like a bullet.

w5kcm

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Jul 18, 2010, 5:54:01 PM7/18/10
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The bench grinder is the best tool for this.

walt

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Jul 18, 2010, 6:13:25 PM7/18/10
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Leon, I'd prefer using a 'vise' rather than a 'vice'.

Walt, W2DU

Leon Whyte

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Jul 18, 2010, 7:21:23 PM7/18/10
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walt wrote:
> Leon, I'd prefer using a 'vise' rather than a 'vice'.
>
> Walt, W2DU
That was my spell checker. It never heard of a vise.
Even now it is marking vise in red.

Jeff Liebermann

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Jul 18, 2010, 11:15:37 PM7/18/10
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:21:23 -0700, Leon Whyte <leon....@shaw.ca>
wrote:

>walt wrote:
>> Leon, I'd prefer using a 'vise' rather than a 'vice'.
>>
>> Walt, W2DU
>That was my spell checker. It never heard of a vise.
>Even now it is marking vise in red.

There's also something wrong with using a "bench grinder". Why would
you want to grind down the bench?

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Sal M. Onella

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Jul 18, 2010, 11:40:07 PM7/18/10
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Please ... treat yourself to your own Dremel. You'll always be glad
you did.

I bought my first Dremel under the Wards Powercraft name in the
1970s. I retrofitted
it with an Allied Radio Motor Speed Control and used it for decades.
A few years ago,
when the bearings began to sound funny, I bought a replacement. I
will NEVER be
without a working Dremel.

I have the additional collets (like the chuck on a drill) that allow
me to use tools
with smaller shafts (like surplus dental drills) and drill bits of any
size, down to a
# 80 drill bit. I have many dozens of attachments and even a little
Dremel drill
press.

"Sal"

Tom

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Jul 19, 2010, 6:46:29 AM7/19/10
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I've always found that a small set of Bolt Cutters works great....
such as Kobalt 8" or 14" Bolt Cutters $9.98 and $14.98 at Lowe's.

Just one tool to do the job right then and there after checking SWR...

Tom

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dave

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Jul 19, 2010, 8:42:08 AM7/19/10
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Tom wrote:

>> What common tool can be used to do this ? This steel whip sure is tough
>> !!
>>
>>
>> Thanks !!
>>
>>
>> 73 de Jim K4PYT
>>
>>

Hack saw

Panzer240

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Jul 19, 2010, 11:14:09 AM7/19/10
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"James" <jnipp...@nospamfdn.com> wrote in
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>
>

When I worked in the Mobile radio business as a tech, we used to use a small
triangular file. Score the whip with it and then take a pair of lineman's
pliers and just snap it off. Quick and simple.

--
Panzer

Mike Y

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Jul 19, 2010, 7:51:24 PM7/19/10
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Dremels are great for this, but if you use it, get the coated fiberglass
cutoff wheel. The other will shatter if the whip shakes at all.

But even simpler... Just file a notch on the whip on either side with a
small file. Once you have a notch, use two pairs of vice grips to grab
either side of the notch and it should snap easily. Or use a vice and
pliers. The trick is to grap the whip as close to the notch as possible and
bend quickly. Then file to clean up the break.

With the notch methond, you can snap 1/8" 17-7 stainless fairly easily. You
won't snap big stuff, like 1/4" whips, but you're not likely to run into
them.

17-7 is common for whips, and by now you've probably discovered how tough it
is, and how quickly it ruins cutters and nips!

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James

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Jul 19, 2010, 10:12:36 PM7/19/10
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thanks for all these great responses !! I think the Kobalt bolt cutters
from Lowe's is the most simple and quick idea..... thanks Tom, and all
others !!

73 de Jim K4PYT

Topaz305rk

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Jul 20, 2010, 8:13:02 AM7/20/10
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"James" <jnipp...@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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A 4" grinder works fine, but is really over kill.
A Dremel tool is just dandy, cut and round the end easily.
In the field, use a set of linemen pliers.
Put the antenna in the cutting portion, hit the top of the pliers on the
flat surface with a hammer.
Do it smartly and the cut is neat and clean.

K7SAM


Pete

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Jul 21, 2010, 10:55:34 PM7/21/10
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Topaz305rk wrote:

>> What common tool can be used to do this ? This steel whip sure is tough

> In the field, use a set of linemen pliers.

When I worked for a two-way radio company, we used to use a pair of
small bolt-cutters to trim antennas.

VK3ZMB

kb9rqz

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Aug 22, 2010, 1:59:02 PM8/22/10
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"James" <jnipp...@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message
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I has used gavies flase teath a few time seem to make claen cut four me most
time weh i cut teh diaploes.


John Smith

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Aug 22, 2010, 2:58:17 PM8/22/10
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On 8/22/2010 10:59 AM, kb9rqz wrote:
> "James"<jnipp...@nospamfdn.com> wrote in message

> I has used gavies flase teath a few time seem to make claen cut four me most


> time weh i cut teh diaploes.
>
>

Hacksaw, the tool of professionals. Boltcutters work on the cheap SS
whips, but a good spring steel whip can divit bolt cutters. A carbide
cutting disk in a dremel tool or grinder is another option.

For those "tool challenged" a hacksaw blade with several wraps of duct
tape around one end will work.

Regards,
JS

dave

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Aug 22, 2010, 4:56:34 PM8/22/10
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Sawzall!

Mike Y

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Aug 22, 2010, 4:08:11 PM8/22/10
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"Pete" <pje...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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If you're talking a good quality whip, like one made from 6140, you will
ruin your pliers or even the best bolt cutters you can find. They may work
on cheap whips, like the ones on discount store CB antennas, but not on a
good quality whip. And it seems that some of the 'thinner' whips are
tougher than the thicker whips.

Notch it with a file or an impregnated fiberglass wheel on a rotary tool,
than bend it sharply and it should snap off clean. The harder the steel and
the more difficult it is to cut, it seems the more brittle it gets, and the
easier it is to snap.


Steve

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Oct 3, 2010, 3:57:50 PM10/3/10
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For the best cut I use a hand Phaser

73

zerodb

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Nov 17, 2011, 11:39:15 AM11/17/11
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i bought a HUGE set of bolt cutters from harbor freight for 20 some
dollars. the leverage and hardened jaws make trimming spring steel whips as
simple as pinky pressure. highly recommended

dave

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Nov 18, 2011, 7:49:11 AM11/18/11
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When I had to do that sort of thing I used a hacksaw and a vice. I think
Vice Grip "WR" series work too.

dave

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Nov 18, 2011, 9:58:15 AM11/18/11
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From the Amazon:

From the Manufacturer
This Vise-Grip 5-10WR Curved Jaw Locking Pliers with Wire Cutter measures
10 inches and has a jaw adjustment range up to 1-7/8 inches, locks
instantly, releases quickly, and adjusts to plier action, features curved
jaws, knurled tips, and wire cutters able to cut a 1/4-inch bolt.
Involute jaw curve permits user to put tremendous pressure on four points
of any style nut or bolt head. Irwin tools are made of only the finest
materials, manufactured to exacting tolerances.

Paul Drahn

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Nov 18, 2011, 12:30:57 PM11/18/11
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The approved method is to file a notch at the cut point using a
triangular file or grinder. Then clamp the rod in a bench vice with the
notch right at the top of the jaws.

Then using hands or pliers, rock the exposed rod back and forth. Just a
few bends and the rod will snap right at the cut.

Paul, KD7HB

dave

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Nov 18, 2011, 2:16:43 PM11/18/11
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Be sure to make it slightly long for fine tuning with the set screws.

Mike Y

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Nov 20, 2011, 7:53:02 AM11/20/11
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"Paul Drahn" <pdr...@webformixair.com> wrote in message
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Paul is right. A lot of antennas are 17-7 steel. There's no way any
resonably priced cutter will slice through even a thin piece of that without
nicking the blade or cutting surfaces. But it's brittle and can't take a
sharp radius. Put it in a vice and file a notch from two sides. Doesn't
have to be a big notch. Then move the notch to right next to where the vice
clamps it. Grab it with good pliers and force a bend at the notch. It
should snap pretty cleanly and only require a little bit of filing to clean
it up.

I HAVE had success with those 'fibre' wheels for the Dremmel tool as well,
but it will probably cost you a wheel.

Another trick... Straighten out a wire coat hanger and cut it to the whips
original length. Then sand the goo off one end so it makes good contact to
the metal and put it in the antenna base the whole way. Then start tuning
that by clipping off the top in 1/4" pieces until you pass the minimum.
Take it out, lay it next to the steel whip, and cut the steel whip 1/4" long
for a good starting point instead of trying tomake a bunch of cuts.

Mike


dave

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Nov 24, 2011, 7:29:53 AM11/24/11
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Sawzall

Steve

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Nov 24, 2011, 10:13:22 AM11/24/11
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"dave" <da...@dave.dave> wrote in message
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sawzall blades are not hard enough..... have to use either a grinder or a
file corner to nick it, then snap it off. A grinder will make short work of
taking the sharp edges off.


Mike G

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Nov 30, 2011, 10:45:20 PM11/30/11
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dave

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Dec 2, 2011, 8:17:07 AM12/2/11
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Last shop I worked in we had a tech that used the Dremel to cut small
bolts (machine screws?). He said the bolt cutters in Klein strippers left
too much slop behind. He was fired soon afterward.

doc

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me thinks a plasma cutter would be the only thing that can do the job...my moto "if it is good enough for blood!"
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