Hamstick vs. ProAM whips for 6m?
nero
I am looking for some 6m mobile whips to experiment with. I have found:
Hamsticks (Lakeview) 6m
Price $25.95
Bandwidth 2MHz
600 watts PEP
Length ?
ProAm (Valor) 6m
Price $18.95.
bandwidth ?
250 watts PEP
Length ?
What are the construction and quality differences between the two?
The Hamstick costs a bit more, but handles more watts. I'm only running
10 watts. Does the higher rating help me at all?
The length of these are advertised at 7-8 feet. I'm guessing this is
not true for 6m?
Bandwidth on the ProAM? This is important.
Are these good performers?
Thanks to all. nero
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ka4cnh
the Lakeview Hamsticks, I would believe heavier wire is used in the
Hamsticks, therefor less loss regardless of your transmit power level. The
difference in wire size was apparent when I compared my ProAm with the
Lakeview Hamstick. Have you considered making you own? You pays your money
and takes your choice! Have fun, 73, Dave-KA4CNH
nero
In article <38061932...@bellsouth.net>,
ka4cnh <ka4...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Hello Nero, judging by the power rating difference between any ProAm
and
> the Lakeview Hamsticks, I would believe heavier wire is used in the
> Hamsticks, therefor less loss regardless of your transmit power
level. The
> difference in wire size was apparent when I compared my ProAm with the
> Lakeview Hamstick.
That's logical and is an important difference worth paying for. I'm
still curious about length.
>Have you considered making you own?
That's always an option I consider. I have made a number of helical
wound antennas for SWL. The problem is when helical winding, especially
if the pitch varies, it's hard to know what you have when you are done.
The function of my SWL antennas varied widely. The characteristics and
lengths for wire antennas is well known and widely available. But
trying to find good, helpful info for helical antennas is difficult. An
antenna analyzer would make this more feasible however. I haven't
invested in one of these yet.
You pays your money
> and takes your choice! Have fun, 73, Dave-KA4CNH
Sometimes you to just gotta pay the cash, get on the air and start
playing. If I start fussing with a new antenna design it'll be months
before I'm up and running. Thanks for the reply. nero
W6RCecilA
> I am looking for some 6m mobile whips to experiment with. I have found:
> Hamsticks (Lakeview) 6m
What's wrong with a 4.5 ft. whip?
--
73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca
ka4cnh
Dave-KA4CNH
nero
W6RCecilA <Cecil....@IEEE.org> wrote:
> nero wrote:
> > I am looking for some 6m mobile whips to experiment with. I have
found:
> > Hamsticks (Lakeview) 6m
> > ProAm (Valor) 6m
>
> What's wrong with a 4.5 ft. whip?
Not a thing. I'm just not used to a full length antenna that is shorter
than me :-)
Well that raises a second question. since a 4.5' whip is 1/4 wave at
6m. What the heck do you get with a helically wound Hamstick that is
physiaclly longer than 4.5 feet? A 5/8 wave stick? Better bandwidth?
Easier adjustment of tuning (especially to lengthen, damn hard with a
fixed whip that is already cut)?
If there is an advantage to a Hamstick vs. plain 1/4 whip then why not?
I'm thinking about making a rotating dipole for portable use.
Horizontal directional or change axis and it's a vertical dipole. When
I'm done, I can pull it apart, put one whip back on the rig, and have a
spare. For my purpose, I'm guessing that a hamstick may provide better
bandwidth, adjustabilty, and compact take down.
What do you think, Cecil? Regards, nero
> --
> 73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca
>
W6RCecilA
> If there is an advantage to a Hamstick vs. plain 1/4 whip then why not?
I suspect the 6m hamstick must be a 5/8WL which would pretty much
be guaranteed to be no better than a 1/4WL when used mobile. Sorry,
I don't know for sure cuz I've never seen one. But it would be
pretty easy to wind a 6m 5/8WL loading coil at the bottom of a
hamstick bottom section.
Stephen M Mandich
section is 33.5" and the whip is adjusted to 13.5", for a total of 47". The
wire on the fiberglass base is wound at about 1.75" apart at the bottom, and
1.25" apart at the top, with no coil.
Steve
W6RCecilA wrote in message <38066BE6...@IEEE.org>...
nero
"Stephen M Mandich" <STEVE...@prodigy.net> wrote:
> My 6M Hamstick is tuned for the bottom of the 6M band. The base
fiberglass
> section is 33.5" and the whip is adjusted to 13.5", for a total of
47". The
> wire on the fiberglass base is wound at about 1.75" apart at the
bottom, and
> 1.25" apart at the top, with no coil.
>
> Steve
Steve,
Thanks for taking the time to post that info. It is exactly what I
needed. Regards, nero
> W6RCecilA wrote in message <38066BE6...@IEEE.org>...
> >nero wrote:
> >> If there is an advantage to a Hamstick vs. plain 1/4 whip then why
not?
> >
> >I suspect the 6m hamstick must be a 5/8WL which would pretty much
> >be guaranteed to be no better than a 1/4WL when used mobile. Sorry,
> >I don't know for sure cuz I've never seen one. But it would be
> >pretty easy to wind a 6m 5/8WL loading coil at the bottom of a
> >hamstick bottom section.
> >--
> >73, Cecil, W6RCA http://www.bigfoot.com/~w6rca
>
>
Brian
(http://www.ldgelectronics.com/ham.html). FWIW, years ago Ten-Tec used to
offer them as well. It had some kind of rarified gas in the fiberglass
tube, but the gas has probably escaped by now.
I read in World Radio about a competing manufacturer of "Hustler-like"
antennas in Ohio. I've lost the address, however.
There is some kind of "shootout" where folks get together and measure the
gain (loss) in signal strength of their own mobile antenna ideas. Some of
the Ham-sticks are featured as a reference, I think. Perhaps they are on
the web somewhere.
73,
Brian
nero wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for some 6m mobile whips to experiment with. I have found:
>
> Hamsticks (Lakeview) 6m
> Price $25.95
> Bandwidth 2MHz
> 600 watts PEP
> Length ?
>
> ProAm (Valor) 6m
> Price $18.95.
> bandwidth ?
> 250 watts PEP
> Length ?
>
> What are the construction and quality differences between the two?
>
> The Hamstick costs a bit more, but handles more watts. I'm only running
> 10 watts. Does the higher rating help me at all?
>
> The length of these are advertised at 7-8 feet. I'm guessing this is
> not true for 6m?
>
> Bandwidth on the ProAM? This is important.
>
> Are these good performers?
>
> Thanks to all. nero
>