AD5TH Tower Project Completed - Pics Online
Charlie
2M9SSB beam antenna at 90 ft.
The difference from antennas at around 30 ft to the same antennas at 90-95
ft is astonishing. Anyone considering raising their antennas should "just
do it"
1. http://deepsouthnet.net/tower.html
I am founder and net control for the Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net located in
Union,Mississippi. Come join us 7 nights a week at 8:30PM CDT on 144.240 MHz
USB. We have 10-15 or more check-ins nightly with 38 on our All Time Total
Roster and nearly 25 on our Active Roster! The net has grown from it's
first Roll Call on April 8,2005 at an amazing rate.
--
Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net
Dave
1. guyed to trees
2. guyed to power pole
3. saddled lots of dead horses
4. two different tower types mixed
5. doesn't look like a proper base... at least not to rohn specs.
6. that mast sure does look too long above the kind of tiny tube top.
7. no thrust bearing
8. too close to power line? probably since its guyed to a power pole.
"Charlie" <cha...@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:11bsdqp...@news.supernews.com...
Out2Lunch
envy". It looks great and I will bet it will stand the test of time. It is a
shame that every user group on the internet has so many weenie pricks
lurking trying to find fault with every post. I'd be proud of a tower like
that so don't let the idiots detract from it.
73!
"Charlie" <cha...@earthlink.com> wrote in message
news:11bsdqp...@news.supernews.com...
Zoran Brlecic
> Anyone who would fault your tower installation has a serious case of "penis
> envy". It looks great
Don't be fucking stupid. The fact that we are amateurs does not give us
a license to go out and be complete idiots when it comes to erecting
structures which endanger lives and property in the case of a collapse.
His installation is a textbook of how not to approach erecting a tower,
and several people already pointed out why. If he only spent a few hours
Googling for tower tips and reading the Rohn catalog, he could have
avoided at least the most blatant mistakes he made.
"It looks great"... Yes, I'm sure this is the primary concern of
structural engineers everywhere, that their projects "look great" in jpegs.
> and I will bet it will stand the test of time.
I will bet that if I kick a grizzly bear in the balls, I will stand the
test of time, too. The only question is how much time we're talking about.
> It is a shame that every user group on the internet has so many weenie pricks
> lurking trying to find fault with every post. I'd be proud of a tower like
> that so don't let the idiots detract from it.
The problem is that every ham's action reflects on all of us, both in
the positive and in the negative respect. His installation which flies
in the face of everything we know about tower safety and precautions
makes all of us look no better than the average dumbass CB trucker.
You can be proud of anything you like, but that doesn't make it safe and
sound.
73 .... WA7AA
Fred W4JLE
not express yourself without sounding like you belong on Ch 19?
"Zoran Brlecic" <...WA7AA...@get.lost> wrote in message
news:hdidnQkZw8W...@comcast.com...
***** Profanity snipped ******
> The problem is that every ham's action reflects on all of us, both in
> the positive and in the negative respect. His installation which flies
> in the face of everything we know about tower safety and precautions
> makes all of us look no better than the average dumbass CB trucker.
>
>
> 73 .... WA7AA
Zoran Brlecic
> And your liberal use of profanity accomplishes the exact same thing. Can you
> not express yourself without sounding like you belong on Ch 19?
Nice logic, albeit not much surprising in these "morality" driven times:
"liberal use of profanity" is of the same impact and scope as erecting
an unsafe tower.
However, let me rewrite my profanities for all of you who subscribe to
the notion that eradicating a few words will solve all the world's problems:
Don't be fucking stupid. ==> Don't be having sexual relations not so smart.
if I kick a grizzly bear in the balls ==> if I kick a grizzly bear in
the testicles
average dumbass ==> average dumb behind
I hope no one suffered any extensive trauma from reading my profanities.
73 ... WA7AA
Fred W4JLE
situation with out gutter language.
You Sir are the one with flawed logic, regardless of the perceived offense
one sees in the construction of a tower, it conveys no license to assail the
members of the group with gutter language.
Might I suggest a course in creative writing at your local adult education
center? It may expand your vocabulary beyond the profane utterances we have
seen so far.
"Zoran Brlecic" <...WA7AA...@get.lost> wrote in message
news:ad-dnTSQS_2...@comcast.com...
Hank Oredson
news:70f97$42cde587$97d55c31$74...@ALLTEL.NET...
>I guess then we are to conclude that you can not express outrage at a
> situation with out gutter language.
>
> You Sir are the one with flawed logic, regardless of the perceived offense
> one sees in the construction of a tower, it conveys no license to assail
> the
> members of the group with gutter language.
>
> Might I suggest a course in creative writing at your local adult education
Adult education center ???
You assume you address an adult.
I see a middle school kid whos mommy left the computer logged in.
> center? It may expand your vocabulary beyond the profane utterances we
> have
> seen so far.
>
>
>
> "Zoran Brlecic" <...WA7AA...@get.lost> wrote in message
> news:ad-dnTSQS_2...@comcast.com...
>> Fred W4JLE wrote:
>>
>> > And your liberal use of profanity accomplishes the exact same thing.
>> > Can
> you
>> > not express yourself without sounding like you belong on Ch 19?
>>
>> Nice logic, albeit not much surprising in these "morality" driven times:
>> "liberal use of profanity" is of the same impact and scope as erecting
>> an unsafe tower.
--
... Hank
http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli
Out2Lunch
"Fred W4JLE" <w4...@w4jle.com> wrote in message
news:552ef$42cda9bb$97d55c31$21...@ALLTEL.NET...
Zoran Brlecic
> I guess then we are to conclude that you can not express outrage at a
> situation with out gutter language.
The number one fallacy in the Internet communication of any kind is the
assumption of certain posters that they are the official spokespersons
for everyone in the world. Hence "we".
Another fallacy is the projection of one's own morality standards onto
the entire world. Hence "gutter language".
> You Sir are the one with flawed logic, regardless of the perceived offense
> one sees in the construction of a tower, it conveys no license to assail the
> members of the group with gutter language.
One replies to a post in the style and the manner of the original
poster. I see his (anonymous to begin with) post as a clear assault on
everyone's intelligence and I reply accordingly.
> Might I suggest a course in creative writing at your local adult education
> center? It may expand your vocabulary beyond the profane utterances we have
> seen so far.
What makes you think that using "gutter language" somehow automatically
decreases one's vocabulary? Perhaps it is no coincidence that most of
the morality police today are strong proponents of this modern day
phrenology equivalent?
Your OO status does not extend to the Internet, Fred. Clean up the ham
bands from bad ops of all kind and leave the newsgroups alone.
73 ... WA7AA
Zoran Brlecic
> Adult education center ???
> You assume you address an adult.
> I see a middle school kid whos mommy left the computer logged in.
Memetics at its best. Why don't you write a melody to this oldie?
nm...@wt.net
"penis
envy". It looks great and I will bet it will stand the test of time. It
is a
shame that every user group on the internet has so many weenie pricks
lurking trying to find fault with every post. I'd be proud of a tower
like
that so don't let the idiots detract from it.
I haven't faulted it cuz I haven't had time to even look at it.
But if this many people are ragging on it, I'm sure they have
a pretty good reason. Just the "sins" I've read about are
pretty serious. And no, I don't have pecker envy...I have two
towers. One, a stout tilt/crank. If I were to envy a tower, I would
envy one worth envying...
There are some lurking here that have towers that would
make his look like an overgrown tinker toy contraption.
He may be a bit put out that many are ragging his tower,
but if I were he, I would pay attention. Most comments I see
from the raggers look to be on the money. You don't take
chanced with towers. That sucker can fall *through* a
house, and kill anyone it hits. Don't believe me? Check the
stats on hurricane deaths. Many are killed by trees falling
through their houses. That tower is quite capable of thinking
it's a tree. It might not be green and have pretty leaves, but it will
still kill you deader than a squashed june bug.
MK
Peter Voelpel
> Anyone who would fault your tower installation has a serious case of
> "penis envy". It looks great and I will bet it will stand the test of
> time.
never
Ham op
Think about it!!
David G. Nagel
> On 8 Jul 2005 00:02:57 -0700, nm...@wt.net wrote:
>
>
>>That tower is quite capable of thinking
>>it's a tree. It might not be green and have pretty leaves, but it will
>>still kill you deader than a squashed june bug.
>
>
> So it's true, then. Every cloud has a silver lining!
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Having read this thread from the beginning I feel compelled to comment
myself at this time.
A couple of weeks ago the area I live in was subjected to some high
winds. How high I don't know but my neighbor across the street had to
pick a very large tree out if his attic. How large you ask? Glad you
asked. I measured the circumfrence at a point that would have been about
5 ft above ground. It measured 87 inches. Now that's one large tree.
What happened? The roots snapped off at ground level. So do not trust a
living thing to hold anything.
Dave WD0BDZ
Zoran Brlecic
> Your profanity speaks more about you than your comments on the radio tower.
It speaks to the people who, to cite just one recent example, go berserk
and express outrage over a half a breast on national TV, yet fall
strangely silent when their government invades a sovereign country using
false premises and manufactured evidence, or attempts to legalize torture.
Do you really think I care what the Taliban of any religious persuasion
think about me?
nm...@wt.net
roof of a house. It left a hole. A light aluminum tower might
be stopped by a house, but I wouldn't want to take my chances
with a heavy steel tower. He might get lucky and have it last a
few years. But one bad storm, and it could be a problem.
Nearly worse is a tower that crumpled over midway due to snapped
guys, and then you have the fun of trying to get the mess back
on the ground without killing someone. MK
Fred W4JLE
a life!
You are a foul mouthed person with limited ability to express yourself with
out profanity, that failing, you resort to hyperbole and rants against the
government.
"Zoran Brlecic" <...WA7AA...@get.lost> wrote in message
news:NuKdnYWEdKA...@comcast.com...
Ham op
I think you are arrogant enough for the whole ng.
Be careful though. Humility, when it comes, will come hard for you!
Luke
Turnbuckels are not secured, they can work loose and cause failure.
Inadaquate ground wires from guy cables to ground rods.
The trees or light pole will explode is the cables take a hit.
Same for the tower ground wires, insufficient not to NEC specs.
Trees have roots to hold them in the dirt, telco poles do not.
Insufficient support posts in a few feet of dirt concrete filled pipes.
No substitute for cubic yards of concrete and or rebar.
Tower sections have already rusted, most likly internal rusting
as well.
Metal banding will damage the tree trunks, tree will be
susceptiable to disease and insect damage.
Nothing to be envious about this setup.
'structural integrity has not been established'
voice of star trek computer.
luke
Zoran Brlecic
> So now the actions of the government are responsible for your profanity? Get
> a life!
>
> You are a foul mouthed person with limited ability to express yourself with
> out profanity, that failing, you resort to hyperbole and rants against the
> government.
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, Fred. Nowhere did I
say that "the actions of the government are responsible" for anything I
do. I simply gave an example of the rampant hypocrisy and the false
morals of the so-called social conservatives whose actions somehow don't
match their alleged morality and perceived social and moral superiority.
Anything else you're reading into this is your own construct.
The reason I cited that example is because it is almost identical to
your rants against my "profanity", "gutter language" and "foul mouth".
For some strange reason you social conservatives are unable to grasp the
simple concept of *not* reading/watching/viewing/listening to whatever
offends you. Is that so difficult?
>>>Your profanity speaks more about you than your comments on the radio
>
> tower.
>
>>It speaks to the people who, to cite just one recent example, go berserk
>>and express outrage over a half a breast on national TV, yet fall
>>strangely silent when their government invades a sovereign country using
>>false premises and manufactured evidence, or attempts to legalize torture.
>>
>>Do you really think I care what the Taliban of any religious persuasion
>>think about me?
And what's with top-posting?
73 ... Zoran WA7AA
ka...@sonic.net
wrote:
>I guess then we are to conclude that you can not express outrage at a
>situation with out gutter language.
>
>You Sir are the one with flawed logic, regardless of the perceived offense
>one sees in the construction of a tower, it conveys no license to assail the
>members of the group with gutter language.
>
>Might I suggest a course in creative writing at your local adult education
>center? It may expand your vocabulary beyond the profane utterances we have
>seen so far.
Might I suggest your pseudo-superior language adds nothing to
the discussion and makes you sound like a lamer?
I'll bet your daily language is liberally peppered with
panty-waist words like 'inappropriate".
ka...@sonic.net
wrote:
>So now the actions of the government are responsible for your profanity? Get
>a life!
>
>You are a foul mouthed person with limited ability to express yourself with
>out profanity, that failing, you resort to hyperbole and rants against the
>government.
>
Any government which thinks (as shown in the state of the
union message) that the two largest problems this country faces are
Janet Jackson's boob and the propensity of multi-million dollar
athletes using steroids to convert their nuts into raisins is well
worth ranting against.
Yo, Shrub, ever heard of child malnutrition, able-bodied and
willing men without jobs, pissing away the national treasure
(including claiming none of Iraq's future oil profits for saving their
sorry asses) for the benefit of Halliburton? I thought not.
george
you got it right,
just like channel 12 or 21
dloyd...@hotmail.com
kons...@hotmail.com
an old friend
> On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 12:59:29 -0500, dloydlav...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 00:04:05 -0500, "Charlie" <char...@earthlink.com>
> >wrote:
>
> >>75 ft guyed tower with 21 foot mast. 2M M2 HO LOOP antenna at 95 ft. M2
> >>2M9SSB beam antenna at 90 ft.
> >>The difference from antennas at around 30 ft to the same antennas at 90-95
> >>ft is astonishing. Anyone considering raising their antennas should "just
> >>do it"
>
>
> >>I am founder and net control for the Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net located in
> >>Union,Mississippi. Come join us 7 nights a week at 8:30PM CDT on 144.240 MHz
> >>USB. We have 10-15 or more check-ins nightly with 38 on our All Time Total
> >>Roster and nearly 25 on our Active Roster! The net has grown from it's
>
> - Show quoted text -