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psyops

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Apr 21, 2002, 4:10:25 AM4/21/02
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Authorities arrested 27 people Thursday, mainly in San Jose and
neighboring cities, on copyright infringement, counterfeiting and money
laundering charges. Those charges carry between five and 20 years in
prison.

<http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2002/04/20/software/index.html>

David Pruitt

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Apr 21, 2002, 12:56:07 PM4/21/02
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On 4/21/02 1:10 AM, in article
psyopslabs-A518E...@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com, "psyops"
<psyop...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Heh.. Another lame attempt by 'the man' to stop what is inevitable.


--

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MP0werd

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Apr 21, 2002, 7:14:14 PM4/21/02
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Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

>Fascinating.
>
>Why bother posting this boring, OT crap here ? That's a rhetorical question
>because we know:

It's not boring, it's not off topic, and it's clearly not a question. The
current events of the world are important regardless of whether you are for or
against software piracy.

Peter Likidis

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Apr 21, 2002, 7:24:18 PM4/21/02
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In article <5ca7fedc4428d59c...@ecn.org>, Anonymous
<cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

> psyops, you are a deeply sad individual who for some reason feels the need
> to speak up on behalf of 'laws' invented to protect corrupt and greedy US
> business
> that no one in their right mind cares about other than you.


ROTFLMFAO

That was a good one. Betcha wear a beret and go to protests too don't
you?

Those laws are designed to protect ANYONE who creates something. I'm
sure if you ever learnt to program you would want the copyrights to
your work.

MP0werd

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Apr 22, 2002, 12:25:47 AM4/22/02
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Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

>>It's not boring, it's not off topic, and it's clearly not a question.
>

>MP0wered, you have no credentials to judge what is boring or not. It is boring
>and is as OT as crack & serial requests here, as also are lengthy boring
re-directs
>and pranks.

Those blanket statements are not supportable. I'd be glad to argue it out with
you over e-mail if you feel strongly about this.

The Dollyllama

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Apr 22, 2002, 7:29:03 AM4/22/02
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In article <20020421191414...@mb-mm.aol.com>,
mp0...@aol.com (MP0werd) wrote:

Not off topic???? I thought the Book of Mpowerd clearly stated that this
group was intended for 'clever programming'.

Hmmm, alt.hackintosh as a source of current events news... no, I'm
sorry, I just don't see it.

I'm afraid in this case, you and your gang are just as off topic as the
sn# requesters.

psyops

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Apr 22, 2002, 11:07:29 AM4/22/02
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In article <B8E83D36.4F65%use...@davidNOSPAMpruitt.com>,
David Pruitt <use...@davidNOSPAMpruitt.com> wrote:

> On 4/21/02 1:10 AM, in article
> psyopslabs-A518E...@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com, "psyops"
> <psyop...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Authorities arrested 27 people Thursday, mainly in San Jose and
> > neighboring cities, on copyright infringement, counterfeiting and money
> > laundering charges. Those charges carry between five and 20 years in
> > prison.
> >
> > <http://www.salon.com/tech/wire/2002/04/20/software/index.html>
>
> Heh.. Another lame attempt by 'the man' to stop what is inevitable.

Why bother stopping rapists? After all, they'll never be able to
completely stop rape, it will inevtably recur.

David Pruitt

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Apr 22, 2002, 11:50:58 AM4/22/02
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On 4/22/02 8:07 AM, in article
psyopslabs-022FB...@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com, "psyops"
<psyop...@hotmail.com> wrote:


How did we get from software piracy to rape? Your a fool.

MP0werd

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Apr 22, 2002, 3:35:20 PM4/22/02
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The Dollyllama <The_Dol...@yahoo.com> wrote:

So you don't see the link between the issues of the world in regards to DMCA
and piracy and the likes with programmers? While SN# requests are certainly off
topic, the world events as they pertain to software are important.

Michael Schneider

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Apr 22, 2002, 11:30:49 PM4/22/02
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In article <16c660313a4f223c...@ecn.org>, Anonymous
<cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

> Trolls like psyops will use *anything* to make an argument against software
> piracy, and can not seem to differentiate in severity of crimes. He has become
> insane and derranged and would probably like to shoot jay walkers and litter
> bugs if he could get away with it. psyops has even tried to lump in the so
> called 'war against terrorism' into warez arguments in the past.
>
> psyops lives in a pro-goverment and pro Bush right wing crud idealised fantasy


You're trapped on Planet False-Dichotomy, where the inhabitants still
believe there's any difference between "right-wing" and "left-wing".


> society enforced by a Judge Dredd like rule of law.


Law: A stupid man's excuse for his immoral behavior.

--
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/American_Liberty/files/links.htm

Reply to mike1@@@usfamily.net sans two @@, or your reply won't reach me.

psyops

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Apr 23, 2002, 1:00:27 AM4/23/02
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In article <16c660313a4f223c...@ecn.org>,
Anonymous <cri...@ecn.org> wrote:

> Trolls like psyops will use *anything* to make an argument against software
> piracy, and can not seem to differentiate in severity of crimes. He has become
> insane and derranged and would probably like to shoot jay walkers and litter
> bugs if he could get away with it. psyops has even tried to lump in the so
> called 'war against terrorism' into warez arguments in the past.
>
> psyops lives in a pro-goverment and pro Bush right wing crud idealised fantasy

> society enforced by a Judge Dredd like rule of law. He is nothing more than
> a disturbed captain-america-gone-nuts troll. Everyone (including anti-serials
> people here) should plonk this troll before he gets out of control.

So much for armchair psych profiling: I'm an extremely active anti-Bush
activist, going way back to Daddy Bush's regime (even had my picture run
on AP as part of a protest against the Reagan-Bush support of the
Nicaruaguan nun killers -- what have you done for your country today?).
I read both Ayn Rand and Mother Jones, while you read lists of serialz.

But I do believe in exchanging value for value. You can require that
others work for your benefit without pay, but such freeloading is
detrimental to all productive members of society. You use the roads
built by workers, yet treat those workers as though they are your
slaves.

Logically, you have three choices:

- pay your way through life
- go make your own magic nation in which no one is paid and somehow it
all works anyway
- ackowledge the unsupportability of any alternative, that you willfully
choose irrational behavior to the detriment of the social system that
makes you possible


Back on topic, the original argument was not one of severity, nor was my
mine. The original argument was that no one should bother to enforce any
laws so long as violations will continue by other perps. My post merely
clarified the absurdity of such a position, as we all seem to agree.

Please read the whole thread before posting.

Lorin Rivers

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Apr 23, 2002, 10:40:15 PM4/23/02
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In article
<psyopslabs-A518E...@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com>,
psyops <psyop...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Cool! Hope they like their new boyfriends.

The Dollyllama

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Apr 25, 2002, 7:10:34 PM4/25/02
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In article <20020422153520...@mb-mc.aol.com>,
mp0...@aol.com (MP0werd) wrote:


> So you don't see the link between the issues of the world in regards to DMCA
> and piracy and the likes with programmers? While SN# requests are certainly
> off
> topic, the world events as they pertain to software are important.

No I don't see the link between 'clever programming' and news about
piracy busts. But of course, I don't write the rules, you do.

Peter Likidis

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Apr 26, 2002, 9:21:26 PM4/26/02
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In article <The_Dollyllama-4FA...@newsrelay.netins.net>,
The Dollyllama <The_Dol...@yahoo.com> wrote:

It's an of interest thing. At least there were reverse engineering.
It's more than crack begging.

<>eQx<>

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May 6, 2002, 3:13:41 AM5/6/02
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No comment on the piracy issue or the serials or any of that...

but at the risk of going OT...

The nuns you mentioned were killed in El Salvador, not Nicaragua, and
Reagan supported that country's right to exercise its own laws and due
process (however corrupt they were in 1980) not the killers. The two
generals in command were tried in the USA, where they had retired, in
2000 and were cleared of all responsability in a Florida courtroom by
a US jury.

Make up a new cause to fight for and next time remember the facts not
your local liberal picket leader's crap... I hate the things that
happened in that war, you mock these women's memory by claiming to
care about them and not caring at all about what really happened.

I am from El Salvador!

eqx

On Tue, 23 Apr 2002 05:00:27 GMT, psyops <psyop...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

fado

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May 6, 2002, 10:32:54 PM5/6/02
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Lorin Rivers <lriversataust...@sp.am.net> wrote in message news:<230420022140252759%lriversataust...@sp.am.net>...

so do i but i also support pirates but not the spirit of free america
to make a profit out of it.
if you are caught selling software that you didn't write you should
fry.
but in the land of the free you need to pay for everything including
waiting staff after you have paid there employer.
america wake up to the rest of the world.
i hoped sept 11 whould be your wake up call that the world isn't just
revoled around the ideals of america.
america turns it back when it feels americain interests are safe.
if the palistinians had gold or oil they would not be attacked.
the jews have gold and power in the senate,also they have a lobby
group which reminds them that the jews moved the power of the world
from europe to the usa after the second ww . but not the fact that
hitler offered the jews to the americains before he started the death
camps.
so millions? died becase no one wanted them,and now out of the guilt
of the world we persicute the arabs to give them a home on somone
elses land.
guys look in when you want to look for bad before you call others
bad!!!

Greg

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May 7, 2002, 6:03:14 AM5/7/02
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In article <c093502.02050...@posting.google.com>, fado
<bag...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> > Cool! Hope they like their new boyfriends.
>
> so do i but i also support pirates but not the spirit of free america
> to make a profit out of it.
> if you are caught selling software that you didn't write you should
> fry.

I indeed share your views on this subject - I just wonder if (a) this
is the correct forum and (b) how the developers of low-cost software
feel.

For me, someone selling pirated copies of windoze should be drawn and
quartered (not for stealing from bill) for further disseminating that
crap. Someone giving it away to all his friends (while he would be no
friend of mine) does have my support.

However, I think that the retail or even large-scale home user piracy
of (for example) graphic convertor is hurting someone - the developer.
This is wrong, and many of the serial requests that come here are for
products from small-time developers (whose prices are lower than even
GC).

The double-edged sword for me is my currency - it simply cannot hold
its own against the dollar and even US$40 for GC translates to roughly
a weekend of heavy drinking at a club or 4 cases of beer for home plus
pizza and an irish whiskey.

That's a lot of software.

--
remove j from address for replies

fado

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May 7, 2002, 10:36:41 PM5/7/02
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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote in message news:<070520021203149356%greg...@devilliers.org.za>...

the principales are right in some peoples mind but some have that
capitalisum we want money attitude which is wrong.
if you wrote a peice of software like gc then you would do a shareware
releise then update after 12 months with new protections on it using
the hacks you find to help make it stronger.
then people will be using the software a will want the new version
which is better with new features.
most programmers from the late eighties i knew had more than one peice
of software they were working on so 31 people x types of software
could be a bit of money, also how do we know his statment was true?
i also wonder about the money iv'e paid for shareware ,who gets it and
is there somone else taking a cut.

[k]razy

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May 8, 2002, 10:09:38 PM5/8/02
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bag...@ihug.co.nz (fado) wrote in message news:<c093502.02050...@posting.google.com>...


HEY NAZI-BOY, if the palestinians had gold (THEY DO) or oil (THEY DO)
they should still be attacked for the crap they are getting away with.
Oh--hitler did not offer the jews to america, jerk; he offered them
to cuba and it was a german hoax & the germans never meant to give up
the jews. They were supposed to come back and die in the camps. Know
your history before putting it in public. Most people will just think
you're stupid; or a jew-hating Arab or Nazi. And by the way-- the
Arabs do have the oil and the jews left the concentration camps; and
without money, dignity; they had loss of family, hope, their homeland,
their bodies were skin and bones; and they had no clothes. You are a
very sick person.


Millions died because no one wanted them, you say? Who wants you,
pal? How many would you expect to fight for you...and when did
America become a country that leaves international news behind and
focuses on only reducing its friggin debt? People--people with pride
and honor fight everyday in groups of hundreds, thousands, and even
milllions just for causes just like this. Or are you that inept to
the human condition of empathy?

Guilt of the world, you say? LOL. The world turned its back for too
long on this injustice (injustice is a little weak for a word to
describe this atrocity) and it should feel guilty about that and that
alone. The jews have every right to claim a homeland of their own.
Every other one was taken from them. And it isn't someone else's
land; that is not a valid claim but rather it is the speech of the
uninformed naivity plaguing our world today. Even today, the jews
are persecuted by people like you. Why don't you watch the news
sometime and actually listen for more than a second. And why don't
you look in the prayer books of the people you are defending as their
daily prayers call for the execution of the jews. Love these people.

Watch who is calling who bad.

--I'm out.

--PS..if i see and responses on my wording or sentence structure of
missssssssspeellingggggss....I want to say in advance, I hope you had
fun; my response in advance is this......

733Style

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May 9, 2002, 3:38:06 AM5/9/02
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I would just like to say that the previous responce kicked some ass.
Yes, we should know history before we show our ignorance.

-word to you mom - -OuT

Greg

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May 9, 2002, 8:47:44 AM5/9/02
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In article <33e6e0ca.02050...@posting.google.com>, 733Style
<scoo...@www.com> wrote:

As an African, I say we should indeed know history, but not from a
Euro-americo-centric standpoint.

My country has been exploited by colonialism and neo-colonialism for
the past 400 years, in the name of all sorts of cultural differences.
The key to tolerance is being both able to critic and to accept
criticism. Those that seek to lable criticism of zionism or judeaism as
Nazi do so as a crutch to avoid the real issues.

This was apparent at the racism conference where American/Jewish
interests bullied Zionism off the agenda, most probably directly
resulting in the WTC and other attacks.

\But this is OT - the is a.h and not alt.politics or whatever else. As
such, I shall not discuss my views any further on this subject in this
forum, especially seeing as how 80 billion fat, overfed, capitalist,
rich-by-comparison americans can't be labled racist for stealing food
from starving millions in Africa but anyone who critiques their
alienation of all non-Zionist interests in the Middle East can be
labled Nazi.

It don't add up....

Peter Likidis

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May 9, 2002, 4:32:09 PM5/9/02
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In article <34541718.02050...@posting.google.com>, [k]razy
<samjac...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> HEY NAZI-BOY,

Goodwin

fado

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May 9, 2002, 11:53:15 PM5/9/02
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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote in message news:<090520021447448171%greg...@devilliers.org.za>...
it would be great if all the world could travel and see how the other
has to live .
i have traveled and talked to people in many countries from s/america
through to eastern europe and history in books i have found have been
doctored to give things a favourable spin.
like japan has erased the war out of there history books and some
western books are band.
this type of action is also rampent in the usa just talk to the
students who are doing there o.e in the poorer countries.
as for being a nazi i am more a socialest and i think the usa hates
them as well somthing like "commy bastard"
good to here that the some of the world has a open mind.

Greg

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May 10, 2002, 5:02:34 AM5/10/02
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> good to here that the some of the world has a open mind.


indeed - thanks - seems our politics are indeed mutual.

Greg

dude2

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May 10, 2002, 4:09:17 PM5/10/02
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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote:

> In article <c093502.02050...@posting.google.com>, fado
> <bag...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>
> > > Cool! Hope they like their new boyfriends.
> >
> > so do i but i also support pirates but not the spirit of free america
> > to make a profit out of it.
> > if you are caught selling software that you didn't write you should
> > fry.
>
> I indeed share your views on this subject - I just wonder if (a) this
> is the correct forum and (b) how the developers of low-cost software
> feel.
>
> For me, someone selling pirated copies of windoze should be drawn and
> quartered (not for stealing from bill) for further disseminating that
> crap. Someone giving it away to all his friends (while he would be no
> friend of mine) does have my support.

This really sounds logical (too much mampoer young man).
If hes giving it away he is definitely disseminating Windoze...
So what really pisses you off is him making a quick buck on the side.

> However, I think that the retail or even large-scale home user piracy
> of (for example) graphic convertor is hurting someone - the developer.
> This is wrong, and many of the serial requests that come here are for
> products from small-time developers (whose prices are lower than even
> GC).
>
> The double-edged sword for me is my currency - it simply cannot hold
> its own against the dollar and even US$40 for GC translates to roughly
> a weekend of heavy drinking at a club or 4 cases of beer for home plus
> pizza and an irish whiskey.
>
> That's a lot of software.

you mean a lot of booze.
So you use the GC serial and get pissed for free one weekend
-now THAT makes sense! :-)

dude2

[k]razy

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May 10, 2002, 5:23:46 PM5/10/02
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> In article <33e6e0ca.02050...@posting.google.com>, 733Style
> <scoo...@www.com> wrote:
>
> > I would just like to say that the previous responce kicked some ass.
> > Yes, we should know history before we show our ignorance.
> >
> > -word to you mom - -OuT

--thanks. after reading some responses today, I thought i might have
been too harsh though. so, i reread nazi-boy's message. and now i no
longer have to wonder why they say your 1st choice is probably the
right choice.


>
>
>
> As an African, I say we should indeed know history, but not from a
> Euro-americo-centric standpoint.

KEY PT: i'm not going into too much detail on this, since this isn't
the correct place to do it; however, you are only 1/2 right.

the 1/2 you are forgetting is the part where we don't gain a
multi-perspective of history at birth. we all have to learn one way
or another. just as people in africa are probably learning their own
history (i don't know so please don't quote me on that). and correct
me if i'm wrong, but could you tell me your perspective or prejudices
with history? i think you gave yourself away just a bit as i read
further. i'm not saying you are limited in perspective, but you
definitely have your own prejudices as well.


>
> My country has been exploited by colonialism and neo-colonialism for
> the past 400 years, in the name of all sorts of cultural differences.

> The key to tolerance is being both able to critique and to accept
> criticism. Those that seek to label criticism of zionism or judaism as


> Nazi do so as a crutch to avoid the real issues.

wrong. this was your worst comment. i am not crutched as a result of
my opinions. this comment is an obvious defense mechanism used to
label me as intolerant if i reply. sorry, not working. oh---and i
never criticized anti-zionism as nazi. i do however criticize the
above (not yours but my 1st reply) anti-judaism as nazi because this
is the factual truth or this person has some anti-semetic issues. duh
(one of my better words).


>
> This was apparent at the racism conference where American/Jewish
> interests bullied Zionism off the agenda, most probably directly
> resulting in the WTC and other attacks.

what brought out the attacks could be anything..it's funny how you
label this as an excuse to end all. ridiculous. i was wrong; this is
your worst comment. let me see-- could it have been that those jerks
happen to be anti-semetic as well and maybe even incredibly crazy &
self-righteous?


>
> \But this is OT - the is a.h and not alt.politics or whatever else. As
> such, I shall not discuss my views any further on this subject in this
> forum, especially seeing as how 80 billion fat, overfed, capitalist,
> rich-by-comparison americans can't be labled racist for stealing food
> from starving millions in Africa but anyone who critiques their
> alienation of all non-Zionist interests in the Middle East can be
> labled Nazi.

--it does add up and it doesn't. i labeled one person nazi. not for
his critique of non-zionist interests (if that was all he said; there
are many like him who i happen to disagree with and wouldn't care less
about responding to), but rather for his misguided, outlandish
comments about jews as a group of people. argue with that.

Greg

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May 13, 2002, 4:37:56 AM5/13/02
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In article <1fbzivw.1qw6j9rxcq2zN%ba...@theranch.com>, dude2
<ba...@theranch.com> wrote:

> This really sounds logical (too much mampoer young man).
> If hes giving it away he is definitely disseminating Windoze...
> So what really pisses you off is him making a quick buck on the side.

Anyone who sells it should be shot, legit or not.

And yes, too much mampoer. I lived for many years in mampoer country
(Mafikeng, 80km / 50 miles south of Groot Marico, home of homebrew) and
may well have suffered mental harm.

> you mean a lot of booze.
> So you use the GC serial and get pissed for free one weekend
> -now THAT makes sense! :-)
>


Well, I have already purchased GC (many years ago) and so trading it
for a weekend of decadance is no longer an option, given that mac users
in this country are few and far between.

Greg

Greg

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May 13, 2002, 4:38:46 AM5/13/02
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In article <34541718.02051...@posting.google.com>, [k]razy
<samjac...@yahoo.com> wrote:


You've said your say and I mine and continuing an OT discussion of such
a political nature does not appeal to my better judgement, at least not
on a.h.

Greg

[k]razy

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May 14, 2002, 12:14:18 AM5/14/02
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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote in message news:<130520021038463186%greg...@devilliers.org.za>...

> In article <34541718.02051...@posting.google.com>, [k]razy
> <samjac...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> You've said your say and I mine and continuing an OT discussion of such
> a political nature does not appeal to my better judgement, at least not
> on a.h.
>
> Greg

cool beans. all smiles 4 miles.

--(k)razy

E.Velez

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May 14, 2002, 7:53:29 AM5/14/02
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Its pretty annoying this stupid Subject of 27 Arrested for software piracy.....

Come On! Enough Already....Good For them.......If they wanted to be in jail...then so be it.


Go back to what this Newsgroup is about and fuck the government and whoever got arrested....Its their problem not ours.....screw them and screw this stupid topic.



VIVA LA MAC....VIVA LA PEOPLE WHO USE THEM :-)

Greg

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May 14, 2002, 9:24:32 AM5/14/02
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In article <B90672DA.1E1B%vele...@mac.com>, E.Velez <vele...@mac.com>
wrote:

>.Its their problem not ours.....screw them and screw this
> stupid topic.
>


on the subject of screwing stupid topics - or screwing stupid things in
general (let me not enquire as to certain sex lives) - perhaps you
should consider screwing microsoft by not using their HTML news posting
software, since many people on the use net do not use HTML-compliant
newsreaders (in fact, usenet itself should not use HTML).

boy of the halls

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May 14, 2002, 3:26:34 PM5/14/02
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i second that .


In article <140520021524326406%greg...@devilliers.org.za>, Greg

dude2

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May 15, 2002, 11:27:02 AM5/15/02
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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote:


Apropo Microsoft and software piracy, I read an enlightening article in
Macintouch this evening that someone had caught M$ with its pants down.
A case of deja vu or what? M$leaze has been doing this all along (the
Windows ripoff of the Macs GUI comes to mind) But then again, its the
little guys that get piracy convictions, the corporations seldom get
more than a rap on the knuckles.

<quote>
A recent NewsForge posting describes a Microsoft software piracy
conviction in France, ironic in view of Microsoft's vehement anti-piracy
stance:

"Did you know Microsoft was convicted of software piracy last year by a
French court? Not many people do. The Commercial Court of Nanterre fined
Microsoft 3 million francs because it illegally included another
company's proprietary source code in SoftImage 3D, a top-of-the-line
animation package.
  The only authoritative report on the event was written by Lionel
Berthomier and first published in the French paper, Le Monde
Informatique. An English version was reprinted at PCWorldMalta on
November 28, 2001 -- about two months after the court's decision. Both
Le Monde Informatique and PCWorldMalta are affiliated with IDG, the
parent of InfoWorld and LinuxWorld. Yet, neither of these sites
published a word about Microsoft's conviction on September 27, 2001."
<end quote>

dude2

fado

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ba...@theranch.com (dude2) wrote in message news:<1fc6wyo.1qkdpuykas6gwN%ba...@theranch.com>...
there defence is they make no money and they are making there os more
compatible with others software.
as i have said before that as long as you don't ask for money and
don't advertise your warez you are doing no harm.
if we had no laws except the laws of justice" you cant kill ect" the
corporates and goverments would be out of a job.
why chase drug users if they wish to die let them.
less people would steal as they wouldn't need to support organised
crime.
"hello" the western world has a lot to answer for in our bruocracy.
hoping that satan is finally put to rest
michael

Jon Naude

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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote:

> In article <1fbzivw.1qw6j9rxcq2zN%ba...@theranch.com>, dude2
> <ba...@theranch.com> wrote:
>
> > This really sounds logical (too much mampoer young man).
> > If hes giving it away he is definitely disseminating Windoze...
> > So what really pisses you off is him making a quick buck on the side.
>
> Anyone who sells it should be shot, legit or not.
>
> And yes, too much mampoer. I lived for many years in mampoer country
> (Mafikeng, 80km / 50 miles south of Groot Marico, home of homebrew) and
> may well have suffered mental harm.

Ah that explains it, an inhabitant of Charles Herman Bosman country.
Pity you didnt imbibe his humour with the mampoer..

dude2

dude2

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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote:

> In article <1fbzivw.1qw6j9rxcq2zN%ba...@theranch.com>, dude2
> <ba...@theranch.com> wrote:
>
> > This really sounds logical (too much mampoer young man).
> > If hes giving it away he is definitely disseminating Windoze...
> > So what really pisses you off is him making a quick buck on the side.
>
> Anyone who sells it should be shot, legit or not.
>
> And yes, too much mampoer. I lived for many years in mampoer country
> (Mafikeng, 80km / 50 miles south of Groot Marico, home of homebrew) and
> may well have suffered mental harm.

I know the area only from Charles Herman Bosman stories.

Hari Seldon

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Well, they stick rapists in prison, and the rapists get raped (by big
strong inmates). They stick software pirates in prison, and…hmmm.

David Pruitt

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On 5/23/02 11:27 AM, in article
780eed84.0205...@posting.google.com, "Hari Seldon"
<infer...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Well, they stick rapists in prison, and the rapists get raped (by big
> strong inmates). They stick software pirates in prison, and…hmmm.

.. and they teach all the inmates how to read?


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Well, yes. But they teach them to write 0nL33 L1k3 Th15. And they
only teach the d00dZ.

Zen

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Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote in message news:<090520021447448171%greg...@devilliers.org.za>...
since when have their been 80billion people? and when the americans
produce most of the worlds food how are they stealing?

aggro

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Euro-americo-centric?? WTF is this?? What language is this??

[quote]


My country has been exploited by colonialism and neo-colonialism for
the past 400 years

[/quote]

Your country is a large industrialized country. If it were not for
technology, you would be throwing sticks at birds and fish, and dying
by the age of 30 from famine, pestilence and disease. IN FACT, do you
know what the #1 killer of Africans is now?? AIDS, how
"industrialized" is the condom?? Seems that colonialism and
neo-colonialism is not "exploiting" Africa, the ignorance and
stupidity of the people is taking care of that exploitation itself.
Oh, and you have had absolutely NO PROBLEM taking on this so-called
colonialism yourself friend, afterall, what did you use to post your
message? Did you scratch it into the dirt with a stick or did you use
a computer to do it?? hmmmm.

You know what a racism COnference is? It's about 30% people who
REALLY TRULY do care about the issue of racism, the other 70% are the
morons who wish to exploit it for all the money that they can. I've
been to them before, and see the same BS at every single one! Get your
own identity and stop listening to every jabber-jaw and pamphlet on
the street.

Do you even know what a Zionist is??

[quote


especially seeing as how 80 billion fat, overfed, capitalist,
rich-by-comparison americans can't be labled racist for stealing food
from starving millions in Africa

[/quote]

Do your homework jackass, America feeds 80% of the countries out
there, and if it were not for the USA, Europe would have fallen to
Nazis during WW2, and to the communists in WW1, or did that all slip
your mind??!! In fact, America has spent more money on OTHER
countries interests than it has spent on it's own over the past 75
years. America has been the worlds best friend in teir time of need,.
It's not our fault that the money that we give your country is stolen
by your corrupt politicians. If you really want to make a difference,
direct your angst at your own government. THEY are the ones stealing
the food from your mouths. Just a little fact for you, America gives
Africa $80 billion each year, in free money. Where is it all going???
Check the lining of your own politicians pockets, moron. Corruption
is a horrible thing, the worst thing about it is that the people very
rarely see it in their own people. Do you honestly think that your
politicians would say that they receive $80 billion each year from
America, but your citizens see not one dime of it??? Wake up!!!

Man, you really do need an education, the middle east is NOT about
non-zioinist ideals, it's about TERRORISM!!! plain and simple, people
who kill innocent others to further their own irrational cause.

You need to learn to think before you type this garbage to us all, Mr.
Africa. By the looks of it, you just add one more number to the
statistics of uneducated morons in your country.

===============================================================================

boy of the halls

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is the master serfer ( the creator of surfers serials) one of the 27?

In article <cf20242a.0206...@posting.google.com>, aggro

Lawrence Nyveen

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In article <cf20242a.0206...@posting.google.com>,
agg...@yahoo.com (aggro) wrote:

> if it were not for the USA, Europe would have fallen to
> Nazis during WW2, and to the communists in WW1, or did that all slip
> your mind??!!

Actually, the USSR pretty much defeated Germany single-handed. If
Germany hadn't been at war with the USSR, German strength in the west
could have tripled easily. It's fair to say that the US saved Europe
from Communists in WWII, however, because if the Yanks hadn't been in
Europe, the USSR would have easily made it to the Atlantic.


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fado

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agg...@yahoo.com (aggro) wrote in message
> Your country is a large industrialized country. If it were not for
> technology, you would be throwing sticks at birds and fish, and dying
> by the age of 30 from famine, pestilence and disease.

history of africa shows that this wasn't the case as people could move
freely and could move to where the food was.
it was us introducing boundries like in the middle east


do you
> know what the #1 killer of Africans is now?? AIDS, how
> "industrialized" is the condom?? Seems that colonialism and
> neo-colonialism is not "exploiting" Africa,

who brought aids to africa?
who brought tb to africa?
who brought guns and mines to africa?


>
> Do your homework jackass, America feeds 80% of the countries out
> there

the americans give aid to israel who use it to buy arms off america.
the americans give aid to alot of countries but not 80%.
there food aid is what the american subsidised farmers have over
produced and isn't up to international standards and can't be sold on
the world market(there reason for this is so the receiving country
can't sell it again.)

and if it were not for the USA, Europe would have fallen to
> Nazis during WW2, and to the communists in WW1, or did that all slip
> your mind??!!

to many john wayne movies


> It's not our fault that the money that we give your country is stolen
> by your corrupt politicians.

yes it is as the united state proved in kuwait.
they pay politicins to look after american interests like oil ect .
they get politicians daughters to lie about babies being pulled out of
incubators.


>
> Man, you really do need an education, the middle east is NOT about
> non-zioinist ideals, it's about TERRORISM!!! plain and simple, people
> who kill innocent others to further their own irrational cause.

so its not about jewish money?
its not about broken promises?
it's not about the popy trade?
will why did america support terrorests in angola,northen
ireland,iran,and a few others

the america of today has alot of answers to find for the way they
treated the world in the name of freedom during the cold war .

no one can justify taking anothers life no matter if you think you are
right or you are told you are right.

remember a wild dog (free) penned in a corner attacks cause it knows
no other way of suviving. this is nature.

how doze one get rid of unwelcomed guests???????????????

aggro

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baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

history of africa shows that this wasn't the case as people could move
freely and could move to where the food was. it was us introducing
boundries like in the middle east
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

your people can move wherever the hell they want to. if you want to
leave your country you can. it's up to you. don't blame other people
because you are to oaraid to take your chances in the real world.
america has plenty of african immigrants, they at least had the balls
to do something for their own lives instead of bitch about it and do
nothing. those people I have respect for.


baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


who brought aids to africa? who brought tb to africa? who brought guns
and mines to africa?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

HAHA, well, there are only 2 theories. Since the FIRST signs of AIDS
were found in AFRICA, one theory is that it was taylor made by a rogue
nation to work out the BS with the appartheid. The other is that ther
eis only one animal in nature that naturally carries the disease and
incubates it, a green monkey. One of you citizens banged it and
contracted the disease. Those are the only 2 theories. Do you have a
better one Einstein? Oh, and your people's own IGNORANCE is what
spreads disease. Your country has the HIGHEST rate of disease than any
other and a shorter life-span than any other as well. grow up and take
responsibility f or not throwing the condom on, jackass.


baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


the americans give aid to israel who use it to buy arms off america.
the americans give aid to alot of countries but not 80%. there food
aid is what the american subsidised farmers have over produced and
isn't up to international standards and can't be sold on the world
market(there reason for this is so the receiving country can't sell it
again.)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

So what if the Americans give aid to Isreal, you wnat to know why?
because they have had the tact and motivation to make something of
their country, they are not ignorant fucks who strap bombs to
themselves and blow up innocent peopole. when they take military
action, it is MILITARY and not used against innocent people. I have
some friends who are over there right now doing reporting on the whole
situation, don't tell me how it goes.




to many john wayne movies

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

are you kidding me??? man, you really are an ignorant fuck! Germany
toppled every nation it came across until a place called France, where
the US stepped in and took the main beaches that NOBODY else could
take from the Germans. we Americans lost THOUSANDS in that battle
alone, and you have the gall to trivialize it? I lost family members
in that battle for the freedom of the world. You really are an
ignorant fucking African jackass. You deserve to die like a dog. Once
again, take a history class, or better yet, at least get some sort of
education because you are just plain ignorant.


baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


yes it is as the united state proved in kuwait. they pay politicins to
look after american interests like oil ect . they get politicians
daughters to lie about babies being pulled out of incubators.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Once again, you are an ignorant fuck. How can you say that the USA is
to blame because YOUR country's politicians are corrupt bastards??
You really truly are a dumbass. Go after your own government for the
money we give you, I certainly do not see any other countries helping
you out. And i can guarantee that you would not turn down a handfull
of it, so shut the fuck up.


baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


so its not about jewish money? its not about broken promises? it's not
about the popy trade? will why did america support terrorests in
angola,northen ireland,iran,and a few others

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who cares whether it's Jewish, japanese, chinese, indonesian or
whatever money, and yes Jewish money, at least they have money! All
those shit countries surrounding it hate them because they actually
HAVE MONEY! Jealousy! They are hypocrites, they despise what money
stands for, but yet they want it for themselves and they also use it
to cause mass destruction, it's hypocrisy, plain and simple. But you
are too stupid to see that.

baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


the america of today has alot of answers to find for the way they
treated the world in the name of freedom during the cold war .

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

The only answers America has to find is why we still support shit
countries like yours, who all they do is bitch and complain about
everything and nothing. Don't worry though, one day it will be cut
off.

baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


no one can justify taking anothers life no matter if you think you are
right or you are told you are right.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

DING DING DING DING!!! the bell rings for the dipshit Baggins!!
Hello!! How about Palestine, Iraq, Iran, China, India, and all those
other fucking countries in the middle east??!!?! Jesus Baggins, you
are STUPID!!!!!

baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


remember a wild dog (free) penned in a corner attacks cause it knows
no other way of suviving. this is nature.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Welcome to the real world Baggins! Welcome to the basic fundamental of
nature. And no matter what you think, EVERY governmental institution
in EVERY country has it's faults, so before you go knocking others,
check yourself you dipshit.


baggins said:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------


how doze one get rid of unwelcomed guests???????????????

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

We shoot you in the head or hang you, that's how we get rid of you.

aggro

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Lawrence Nyveen said
------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, the USSR pretty much defeated Germany single-handed. If
> Germany hadn't been at war with the USSR, German strength in the west
> could have tripled easily. It's fair to say that the US saved Europe
> from Communists in WWII, however, because if the Yanks hadn't been in
> Europe, the USSR would have easily made it to the Atlantic.
------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually NO Lawrence, do your homework. Learn history, the cold
weather killed more nazis than did the Russians. You see, Hitler
(rampid with herpes and going crazy from it) sent his troops into
Russia and they conquered every section of it, except for 1 (Siberia)
and when the Russina winter set in, the Nazis were out of supplies and
Hitler refused to send more, his brain was rotten by disease by this
point.

And most of the Nazi troops were placed about in other parts of
Europe, in fact there was ONE bridge that their troops were aimed for
in Fance that would have allowed them to cross over and stretch out
further and further, and if it were not for the US storming the
beaches in Normandy and taking France section by section, the Germans
would VERY WELL have taken Europe, for most of it would have been
their strong-hold.

Please, check your resources before you post.

Thanks

aggro

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Lawrence Nyveen said
------------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, the USSR pretty much defeated Germany single-handed. If
> Germany hadn't been at war with the USSR, German strength in the west
> could have tripled easily. It's fair to say that the US saved Europe
> from Communists in WWII, however, because if the Yanks hadn't been in
> Europe, the USSR would have easily made it to the Atlantic.

Tim

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Ar an 5/6/02 2:46, scríobh aggro:

> Lawrence Nyveen said
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Actually, the USSR pretty much defeated Germany single-handed. If
>> Germany hadn't been at war with the USSR, German strength in the west
>> could have tripled easily. It's fair to say that the US saved Europe
>> from Communists in WWII, however, because if the Yanks hadn't been in
>> Europe, the USSR would have easily made it to the Atlantic.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Actually NO Lawrence, do your homework. Learn history, the cold
> weather killed more nazis than did the Russians. You see, Hitler
> (rampid with herpes and going crazy from it) sent his troops into
> Russia and they conquered every section of it, except for 1 (Siberia)
> and when the Russina winter set in, the Nazis were out of supplies and
> Hitler refused to send more, his brain was rotten by disease by this
> point.

Er, no.... Germany conquered nowhere near "every section of it"
http://www.libraries.psu.edu/crsweb/maps/text/EUR1943tn.jpg

And adding a little bit to the thread (and getting waaaay OT)

- One mans terrorist is another mans hero...
E.g. George Washington was a terrorist in the eyes of Britain, and
Nelson Mandela too was a "terrorist"

- The Palestinians would *not* be attacking Israel if they were not being
occupied. There *is* a reason for the suicide bombings (not that I
condone it)

- The Palestinians are regularly the brunt of racism. Following the Gulf
war, Kuwait routinely harassed, and punished Palestinians living in the
country, wrongly accusing them of siding with Sadam Hussein of Iraq.

- The entire purpose of Israel is to be a refuge to the Jewish people -
which in itself is €not€ wrong. It becomes wrong however when this refuge
becomes a prison for others.

- Israel may be the only real democracy in the middle east, but the modern
idea of democracy is much more than the basic 50%. I wouldn't call any
of the Jewish settlements valid - even though there might be a majority of
Israelis in the area. It is *very* easy to manipulate a "democracy".
Example: Say one suddenly puts 100 million Mexicans forcefully into
California, and they all vote to rejoin Mexico. True - it's a
democratic wish - but is it fair?

- Why do people from the US talk about supporting Israel as it's a
democracy, yet are best friends with a state such as Pakistan with a
military dictatorship, and criticise India, which is the largest
democracy in the world.

- The U.S. (in modern times) has never been an occupied nation. I find it
very hard to accept U.S. opinion that Yasser Arafat is a terrorist. I know
that if my country was occupied by a foreign country, I would be amongst
the fist to enlist, and fight against the the occupying force - with
whatever means necessary.


Lastly, I think I should mention that I am *not* anti U.S. - I just find it
utterly disappointing that the supposed leader of the free world has such
variable standards.

Slán,

Tim

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aggro says:

> your people can move wherever the hell they want to. if you want to
> leave your country you can. it's up to you. don't blame other people
> because you are to oaraid to take your chances in the real world.
> america has plenty of african immigrants, they at least had the balls
> to do something for their own lives instead of bitch about it and do
> nothing. those people I have respect for.

>------------------------------------------------------------------------
if people can move where they like then why do we have imagration
control?
you may think everyone can go were they like but only a few countries
can as a cubian can't leave cuba and go to the u.s
as for you large population of africans i think this is the slave
thing that founded the american industrial revolution.
making a country strong on anothers blod is'nt good.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
aggro says:

> HAHA, well, there are only 2 theories. Since the FIRST signs of AIDS
> were found in AFRICA, one theory is that it was taylor made by a rogue
> nation to work out the BS with the appartheid. The other is that ther
> eis only one animal in nature that naturally carries the disease and
> incubates it, a green monkey. One of you citizens banged it and
> contracted the disease. Those are the only 2 theories. Do you have a
> better one Einstein? Oh, and your people's own IGNORANCE is what
> spreads disease. Your country has the HIGHEST rate of disease than any
> other and a shorter life-span than any other as well. grow up and take
> responsibility f or not throwing the condom on, jackass.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
this monkey has been around as long as us so why didn't it happen
earlier in history?
how much dose a condom cost?
disease is a wealth thing not a ignorance thing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------


aggro says:
>
> So what if the Americans give aid to Isreal, you wnat to know why?
> because they have had the tact and motivation to make something of
> their country, they are not ignorant fucks who strap bombs to
> themselves and blow up innocent peopole. when they take military
> action, it is MILITARY and not used against innocent people.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
so that village that they had the memorial service for last month that
the israelly government didn't wish publicised because they were all
civillians.
remember this is ocupation of there homes we are talking about.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
aggro says:

man, you really are an ignorant fuck! Germany
> toppled every nation it came across until a place called France, where
> the US stepped in and took the main beaches that NOBODY else could
> take from the Germans. we Americans lost THOUSANDS in that battle
> alone, and you have the gall to trivialize it?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
the russians lost millions of civillians at lennon grad and houndreds
of thousands in the defence of moskow.
neather city fell.
the brittish and my own rellitives (some died but some lived to tell
the tail)
had been fighting for years against the germans.
they will tell you that the germans put up less resistance to the
ALLIEDS than the last man standing taktics they used against russians
.
the russians had pay back owing this is why the allies waited out of
berlin for the russians and regreted it to this day.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
aggro says:

I lost family members
> in that battle for the freedom of the world.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
who didn't?

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> aggro says:

> Once again, you are an ignorant fuck. How can you say that the USA is
> to blame because YOUR country's politicians are corrupt bastards??
> You really truly are a dumbass. Go after your own government for the
> money we give you,

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
my home of new zealand is not african and it takes nothing from your
country but the tarrifs which your goverment imposese on our exports.
our politicians are dumb yes. corrupt maybe, but only towards the
american agenda.
it they were smart they would again tell the usa to fuck off like we
did with nucular missiles.
but no we send our troops to war for corrupt american causes.
the americans told us to forgive france who did a terrorest act in our
country taking life.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
aggro says:

> Who cares whether it's Jewish, japanese, chinese, indonesian or
> whatever money, and yes Jewish money, at least they have money! All
> those shit countries surrounding it hate them because they actually
> HAVE MONEY!

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
from where dose this money come from?
not israel!!!!!
they stole there land from others and didn't pay a cent.
the money comes from jews around the world who think they are doing a
holy thing.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


> the america of today has alot of answers to find for the way they
> treated the world in the name of freedom during the cold war .
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

aggro says:

. And no matter what you think, EVERY governmental institution
> in EVERY country has it's faults, so before you go knocking others,
> check yourself you dipshit.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
so tell yours to keep out of other peoples fucked up goverments.
if the people wish to be commy let them if they wish to be islamic let
them and if they wish to be jew let them

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> how doze one get rid of unwelcomed guests???????????????
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

> aggro says:

> We shoot you in the head or hang you, that's how we get rid of you.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------
this is what the arabs are doing to the jews dip shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lawrence Nyveen

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In article <cf20242a.02060...@posting.google.com>,
agg...@yahoo.com (aggro) wrote:

> Actually NO Lawrence, do your homework. Learn history, the cold
> weather killed more nazis than did the Russians. You see, Hitler
> (rampid with herpes and going crazy from it) sent his troops into
> Russia and they conquered every section of it, except for 1 (Siberia)
> and when the Russina winter set in, the Nazis were out of supplies and
> Hitler refused to send more, his brain was rotten by disease by this
> point.

You ought to do your homework. I'm well versed in WWII history. See my
sig for starters.

Conquered every section? Well, not Stalingrad and the Crimea, which was
THE turning point of the war. I don't care how many germans died/were
captured by who/the Soviets/Mother Nature. Regardless of the causes,
the point is that the USSR defeated Germany. The western front was a
sideshow with respect to Germany's defeat.

> And most of the Nazi troops were placed about in other parts of
> Europe, in fact there was ONE bridge that their troops were aimed for
> in Fance that would have allowed them to cross over and stretch out
> further and further, and if it were not for the US storming the
> beaches in Normandy and taking France section by section, the Germans
> would VERY WELL have taken Europe, for most of it would have been
> their strong-hold.

Uh, they did control all of France, after Operation Torch when they
snuffed out Vichy France as an independent entity. Arguing that the US
stopped a counter-attack is pointless when I'm saying the Germans would
have folded even without an invasion of France - or even of Italy.

--

Lawrence Nyveen

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Jun 5, 2002, 4:18:20 AM6/5/02
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> HAHA, well, there are only 2 theories. Since the FIRST signs of AIDS
> were found in AFRICA, one theory is that it was taylor made by a rogue
> nation to work out the BS with the appartheid. The other is that ther
> eis only one animal in nature that naturally carries the disease and
> incubates it, a green monkey. One of you citizens banged it and
> contracted the disease. Those are the only 2 theories. Do you have a
> better one Einstein?

Actually, I do. :)

SIV (S is for simian) is a very similar virus to HIV, except it infects
chimpanzees. With that in mind, I suspect HIV was naturally evolved
from a benign human virus to a fairly lethal one.

I think it's more likely that green monkeys caught HIV from us than we
did from them.

Gary R. Utter

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Jun 5, 2002, 6:10:37 PM6/5/02
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In article <c093502.02060...@posting.google.com>, fado
<bag...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

> how much dose a condom cost?

Nothing. The US donates them by the millions.

boy of the halls

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Jun 5, 2002, 7:19:37 PM6/5/02
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this i getting old.

fado

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Jun 5, 2002, 11:57:00 PM6/5/02
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"Gary R. Utter" <ut...@syndicomm.com> wrote in message news:<050620021812538267%ut...@syndicomm.com>...

the condom is no good in rual africa as heat destroies rubber.
the condom once used dosn't disapear but creates waste which the
villages don't like.
and most importantly they need food and water first.
you cant feed thousands with rubbers.

Pepito

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Jun 6, 2002, 12:31:00 AM6/6/02
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in article 050620021919205863%1...@boy.of.the.halls, boy of the halls at
1...@boy.of.the.halls wrote on 6/5/02 7:19 PM:

> this i getting old.

you bet.

Greg

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Jun 6, 2002, 1:16:34 AM6/6/02
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In article <B9233F2B.98447%ti...@esatclear.ie>, Tim
<ti...@esatclear.ie> wrote:


> And adding a little bit to the thread (and getting waaaay OT)

I have refused any follow-up for this reason, as I explained a while
back but...

> - One mans terrorist is another mans hero...

> - The Palestinians would *not* be attacking Israel if they were not being
> occupied.

> - The Palestinians are regularly the brunt of racism.

Amen Tim Amen! Well said...

Gary R. Utter

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Jun 6, 2002, 4:43:49 AM6/6/02
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> the condom is no good in rual africa as heat destroies rubber.

Bullshit, and more bullshit.

Condoms work just fine in the tropics, if you WEAR 'em. Stop making
stupid excuses.

Henning Vestergaard Poulsen

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Aug 26, 2002, 8:19:36 AM8/26/02
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> since when have their been 80billion people? and when the americans
> produce most of the worlds food how are they stealing?

Some of you guys have never visited another country than the US. What do you
mean with that the Americans produce most of the world's food?
Most of the movies shown in cinemas and TV around the world probably come
the US, but food?

Jason

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Aug 26, 2002, 9:57:24 AM8/26/02
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The guy's an uneducated American - there are a LOT of them, and they all
think that their country is the centre of the universe...

stu pid

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:10:24 AM8/26/02
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> The guy's an uneducated American - there are a LOT of them, and they all
> think that their country is the centre of the universe...

You mean it isn't? ;)

Jean-Francois LACHICHE

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Aug 26, 2002, 1:53:23 PM8/26/02
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dans l'article B98FE978.44A4%henning...@mac.com, Henning Vestergaard
Poulsen à henning...@mac.com a écrit le 26/08/02 14:19 :

And you produces most of the world food with OGM
And you produces most of the world pollution !!!
And your president is just better than Mr BEAN

USA is not an example for the world, sorry ...

Jeff from France

Red

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Aug 26, 2002, 7:21:33 PM8/26/02
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In article <B99037B3.5E9E%jean-franco...@wanadoo.fr>,
Jean-Francois LACHICHE <jean-franco...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:


Howya Jeff

I think you mean Mr BEAN for president !!!

Starkrav Ingmad

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Aug 26, 2002, 10:17:26 PM8/26/02
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Actually, California produces more than half of the food the US
consumes, but that is changing as more and more people come here from
other states and build on farmland.

Starkrav

psyops

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Aug 27, 2002, 10:25:34 AM8/27/02
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In article <260820022357240128%matreya@remove_currawong.net>,
Jason <matreya@remove_currawong.net> wrote:

>
> The guy's an uneducated American - there are a LOT of them, and they all
> think that their country is the centre of the universe...


Worse, those of us in the educated minority have to live among them. :)

psyops

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Aug 27, 2002, 10:24:43 AM8/27/02
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In article <B99037B3.5E9E%jean-franco...@wanadoo.fr>,
Jean-Francois LACHICHE <jean-franco...@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> And you produces most of the world food with OGM

The US is the keading exporter. With so many people in China and India
I'd be surprised if they aren't the leading producers.

> And you produces most of the world pollution !!!

This year it's Asia. Missed the Reuters piece on the Great Brwn Cloud?
Pretty serious matter.

> And your president is just better than Mr BEAN

Wrong: Mr. Bean is far better in all respects than the unelected
pResident Bush.



> USA is not an example for the world, sorry ...

No nation should be. Let cultures be what they are.

dude2

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Aug 27, 2002, 5:12:24 PM8/27/02
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Henning Vestergaard Poulsen <henning...@mac.com> wrote:

The thread you picked up is from early June, if you need 4 months to
answer at least spoil us with words of profound wisdom...
Yank chauvinism is a no-brainer, an old hat on usenet. Maths is not too
popular in US schools, hence the problem with numbers - that, combined
with the USA's main export item (HYPE, not food) results in grossly
inflated numbers for the world's population..


dude2


Greg

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Aug 28, 2002, 1:08:45 AM8/28/02
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In article
<psyopslabs-C3B3C...@newssvr13-ext.news.prodigy.com>,
psyops <psyop...@hotmail.com> wrote:


>
> > And your president is just better than Mr BEAN
>
> Wrong: Mr. Bean is far better in all respects than the unelected
> pResident Bush.
>


while this is OT, I am glad to see that someone will stand up for Bean.

Gerg

Gary R. Utter

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Aug 28, 2002, 3:57:28 AM8/28/02
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Wellll, dude, I see you are just as intelligent on world affairs.
(snicker)

Jonathan Majewski

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Sep 6, 2002, 12:18:42 AM9/6/02
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no wonder their math is so bad, they still use that HORRIBLY OUTDATED
NUMBER SYSTEM!
-j
In article <1fhkfyu.kebev1bfw553N%ba...@theranch.com>, dude2

Jonathan Majewski

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Sep 6, 2002, 12:16:13 AM9/6/02
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absolutely true. i hate tourist and uneducated americans, especially
tourists, they come in and muddle up things very badly.
The song of the american idiot when i tell them i was born in east
germany: "oh, we wupped your ass good there!" I ABSOLUTELY HATE THEM!
when will they learn to go to school?
i have friends that tell americans tourists that "achtung" means
detour! and they buy it!
oh, and they horribly mispronounce and mangle words such as colour and
centre. Since when has their language existed? the british have spoken
english for far longer and have perfected it.
-j

MP0werd

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Sep 6, 2002, 12:47:34 AM9/6/02
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Jonathan Majewski jonathan...@inmail.sk wrote:

<SNIPPED TROLLBAIT>

... at least I really hope that was trollbait.

>-j


psyops

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Sep 6, 2002, 3:39:55 AM9/6/02
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In article <050920022116134815%jonathan...@inmail.sk>,
Jonathan Majewski <jonathan...@inmail.sk> wrote:

> absolutely true. i hate tourist and uneducated americans, especially
> tourists, they come in and muddle up things very badly.

It's worse here: we have to live among them.

> The song of the american idiot when i tell them i was born in east
> germany: "oh, we wupped your ass good there!" I ABSOLUTELY HATE THEM!
> when will they learn to go to school?

Too many conservatives think that school is a communist/humanist/satanic
plot, and do everything they can to cut funding.

Somehow we can afford the largest incarcerate population per capita in
the world, but we can't afford to teach them to stay out of prison.

And please accept my apologies for the minority here who voted for the
inarticulate freak currently occupying our White House. The world and
70% of Americans understand that he's a war-mongering freak hell-bent on
making us look like Germany in '39.

Please consider your national leaders to impose sanctions against the US
until we implement democratic reforms.

See Florida admit they sold our election:
<http://www.boston.com/dailynews/239/politics/Florida_counties_plan_to_se
ttl:.shtml>

And:
<http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/democrat/news/opinion/3973122.htm>

Note that the Florida State settlement has not rec'd any significant
coverage in the major corporate-owned news services here. And we think
we have freedom of information....

Jonathan Majewski

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Sep 7, 2002, 11:08:46 PM9/7/02
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By the whiskers of Kurvi Tasch, you are calling me a troll!
What an idiot!
How hypocritical!
Who bugs everyone that posts requests for serial numbers?
You are the troll, as a matter of fact, everything that you post is
trollbait.
-j
In article <20020906004734...@mb-cg.aol.com>, MP0werd
<mp0...@aol.com> wrote:

--
Amaih Kurvi Tasch!
Praise the Great Nation of Boduria!

MP0werd

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Sep 8, 2002, 1:58:55 AM9/8/02
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Jonathan Majewski jonathan...@inmail.sk wrote:

>By the whiskers of Kurvi Tasch, you are calling me a troll!
>What an idiot!

Oh really?

>How hypocritical!

I'm sure.

>Who bugs everyone that posts requests for serial numbers?

By bugs, you mean educates? Thanks for redefining a perfectly good word.

>You are the troll, as a matter of fact, everything that you post is
>trollbait.

Clearly you need to check the definition of troll. I claim you're trolling
because many of your posts seem to be very nationalistic and deride citizens of
countries such as the USA. While the US has a lot of problems to complain
about, such as the School of America (www.soawatch.com) or president Bush's
international policies, calling their citizens who visit your country "stupid"
is simply incorrect.

>Amaih Kurvi Tasch!
>Praise the Great Nation of Boduria!

Tintin, right?

Mark Hood

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Sep 9, 2002, 7:52:30 AM9/9/02
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psyops

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Sep 9, 2002, 11:08:25 PM9/9/02
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In article <B9A1F5AE.52D%meh...@mac.com>, Mark Hood <meh...@mac.com>
wrote:

Did you vote for Smirk?
Theives of a feather....

dude2

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Sep 11, 2002, 2:52:27 PM9/11/02
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MP0werd <mp0...@aol.com> wrote:

> Jonathan Majewski jonathan...@inmail.sk wrote:
>
> >By the whiskers of Kurvi Tasch, you are calling me a troll!
> >What an idiot!
>
> Oh really?
>
> >How hypocritical!
>
> I'm sure.
>
> >Who bugs everyone that posts requests for serial numbers?
>
> By bugs, you mean educates? Thanks for redefining a perfectly good word.
>
> >You are the troll, as a matter of fact, everything that you post is
> >trollbait.
>
> Clearly you need to check the definition of troll. I claim you're trolling
> because many of your posts seem to be very nationalistic and deride
> citizens of countries such as the USA. While the US has a lot of problems
> to complain about, such as the School of America (www.soawatch.com) or
> president Bush's international policies, calling their citizens who visit
> your country "stupid" is simply incorrect.

The problem of generalizing.
of course there are a some well-educated, critical Americans out there.
Very few in USENET though..



> >Amaih Kurvi Tasch!
> >Praise the Great Nation of Boduria!

jeepers, another east europ. nut..


> Tintin, right?

L@L!


dude2

Randy Foster

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Sep 12, 2002, 3:13:54 AM9/12/02
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Whatchu mean, unedicated Mericans? I schoolled mahself plenty, done did.
For 'sample, I knows der's not no 30 billion folks here on erth -- more
like 30 bajillion, by my reckonin. And who says Merica ain't center of
no uni, uni, space. Last I looked at a map, put Merica square center.

And Prezdent Bush? He'ins a fine Merican prezdent, and smart! Just look
how he stole dat Whot Hause right out from unner dat Gore, and everone
thot Gore's so smart and all.

Now we'uns got right riled a year 'go when those Soddy Rabans took dose
airjets and smashed em into the werld trade center. 3,000 folks got
snuffed out like that. Kids, old folks, working moms and dads. Most were
good solid cityzens, payin mosta da taxes the gummint ast fer, goin to
church (and synagogues and mosques) on der days off, and raisin kids.

I reckon ders bout 35 millon (I think that's a 35 follered by six zeros,
for you Brits out der) folks live in Merica. And know what? In a year o
askin, I haven't met one yet who din't know sommon who knew sommon who
got demselves killed dat day.

Spose we just don' wan to wandup like dose Isralees and does Irish and
does Germanes and does Greeks and, well you getda ideah. Seems those
right nice folks habin cowerin from terrists fer years, and we jez don
cotton to it much.

I don know mucha bout the werld out here in Nahth Carolina. Only binna
few other countries -- Britain, France, Italy, Mexico, Canada, Norway,
Netherlands. And dint get much pas high school (only bout four years, as
ah recall). Met lots o nice folks along my way all about. Figger dats
why we like to pay you'all vists from time to time.

Met a few who ah dint care much for, jez tween you an me. Seems like it
same herebouts.

I do surely enjoy readin what y'all have to say bout stuff, partically
my country. I sure do love it, and hate to see ennyones cause harm to
it. Ah hope you'all can unnerstand dat.

I garantee dat der ain't no moms or dads hereabouts who want see der
sons and daughters go off and fight some damn war. One thang we lernt
o'er the years, doh. We sit back too long before we do somethin, and the
chore gets right ornery.

You all take good care yo selfs.

redragon

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Sep 13, 2002, 4:55:39 PM9/13/02
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1st, shut up.
2nd, learn to type.

if you want to be taken seriously, dont talk like a damn hick. or bein
a hick wannabe. whichever one u are. damn hicks.

obviously u done tot yer self wrong and learnt very little if any. i
reckon dat.

u need to watch some pbs. sesame street will help you learn alot of
letters.

Randy Foster

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Sep 14, 2002, 2:17:56 AM9/14/02
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In article <8af37851.02091...@posting.google.com>,
mail...@juno.com (redragon) wrote:

Well howdy ho! Sum'uns who wrates lake me! Don unnerstan part bout
shuttin up, since I'm typing and not talkin, and can't figger how ta
shuddup when I ain't sayin nothin. Reckon I'll chew onit fer while and
see'f ah can cipher an answer to it and get back to you on it. How about
never -- is never good for you?

Second, or 2nd, as you put it (note that it is customary to start off
paragraphs with a word, rather than a numeral or ordinal), I think I was
doing a pretty good job of typing. Actually, I'd stack my typing against
yours, any day (not to mention spelling).

What I do note is your inability to, one, ferret out a message among a
diverse community; two, discern the point of the post; and, three, offer
a valid comment either in agreement or disagreement. You only reveal
your prejudice against people who aren't like you. Which -- now what do
you know -- was the point of the post in the first place! (By the way,
that funny punctuation that looks like a comma but is dotted like an i
is called a semicolon.)

Let's see, which would I rather be, a hick (even a damn hick) or a
prejudiced (and might I add) fool? Why, I figger ah'll jez stick'ta bein
a hick, and all.

Have a nice day, y'all

Jonathan Majewski

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Sep 14, 2002, 5:39:49 PM9/14/02
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in article rkbcHOWDYfoster-B5...@nnrp04.earthlink.net, Randy
Foster at rkbcHOW...@earthlink.net wrote on 9/13/02 11:17 PM:

Is this a joke?
This person sounds like he has been living on a desert island for most of
his life. Obviously he has not been educated like the fine people of
Boduria.
By the way, Boduria means the People's Republic of Boduria, who's website is
at http://stateofboduria.host.sk.
-j

--

Red Corsair

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Oct 5, 2002, 8:14:22 PM10/5/02
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You guys sound like those two chipmunks in the old Donald Duck cartoons.

In article <geoff-AF339B....@newstrial.btopenworld.com>,
Geoff <ge...@sputnik-one.com> wrote:

> In article <270920020839346917%greg...@devilliers.org.za>,
> Greg <greg...@devilliers.org.za> wrote:
>
> > In article <geoff-F71760....@newstrial.btopenworld.com>,
> > Geoff <ge...@sputnik-one.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 1. Damn! now you have got me doing it!
> >
> > After an exclamation mark, it is good practise to capitalise. as in
> > Damn! Now you have...
> >
> > :)
>
> Yes, how embarrassing but you forgot to capitalise after a full stop!

ArchonOSX

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Oct 6, 2002, 6:31:22 PM10/6/02
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Yes but in this country we "practice" and "capitalize". Just goes to
show how we are still two countries separated by a common language. ;-)

Archon<OSX>


In article <051020021714282040%nos...@nospam.spam>, Red Corsair

Jonathan Majewski

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Oct 6, 2002, 7:10:32 PM10/6/02
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I would rather not put an ugly, capitalist face on it, but you are
correct.
-j

In article <051020021714282040%nos...@nospam.spam>, Red Corsair
<nos...@nospam.spam> wrote:

--

Greg

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Oct 7, 2002, 1:03:03 AM10/7/02
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In article <061020021831226922%bcm...@yahoo.com>, ArchonOSX
<bcm...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes but in this country we "practice" and "capitalize". Just goes to
> show how we are still two countries separated by a common language. ;-)
>

Ah - we also practice but we have a practise - as a verb its a c but as
a noun, itss an s (or should that read "it's a s"?).

Last night, a local broadcaster showed "Analyze This" and given nothing
else was on, I watched it again. I kep thinking it should have been
"Analyse This" until I realised I had just done so - I had analysed
that title...

Greg

robert

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Oct 8, 2002, 2:26:42 AM10/8/02
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some movies i download are not fully played back my quicktime. i have to
play with the time bar to see all the movie. is there something i can do
to make the movie play in full?

LightYear

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Oct 8, 2002, 4:46:44 AM10/8/02
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In article <3DA27A9E...@attbi.com>, robert <rggi...@attbi.com>
wrote:

> some movies i download are not fully played back my quicktime. i have to
> play with the time bar to see all the movie. is there something i can do
> to make the movie play in full?

Not with QuickTime you can't. If it is the problem I'm thinking of, the
source is the fact that QuickTime respects the standard set out for
multiplexed MPEGs/AVIs. The standard requires some sort of track which
details the length of the clips and stuff. If you edit such a movie
simply by cutting, cropping or concatenating, without the necessary
edits to the contents track, QuickTime will not play them without some
scrubbing of the slider.

Other movie players will ignorantly read the data out of the file as it
is, and blissfully play the movie quite fine. WMP is one example, but
I'd try mplayer or VideoLan Player first.
--
LightYear_ __ *"Programming today is a race between software
/ / / | / / / * engineers striving to build bigger and better
/ / / _ /-/ / * idiot-proof programs, and the Universe, trying
/__ / |_/ / / / * to produce bigger and better idiots. So far,
/-----------------/ * the Universe is winning." -Rich Cook

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