whoops.. this was odd...
ThePsyko
supposed to be there) and after logging in, took a look at the menu
--- #4 was for usenet so I figured I'd have a little fun with this
persons account and entered 4 only to recieve the following:
sh: /usr/local/bin/tin: not found
so I typed in 'post'
and it stuck in a continuous loop where it kept flashing the above
error message and the only way out was to disconnect...
odd....
ThePsyko
Public Enemy #7
"God told me to skin you alive"
Bryan Paxton
#include <stdio.h>
#ifdef __MORON__
#define inline
#else
#warning you are a fucking lamer
#endif
int main() {
printf("Lame ass script kiddie!\n"); return 0;
}
--
Bryan Paxton
I ride the short __bus__
Joskyn ®
<ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
Hello Mr. Paxton
you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
Ah bollocks to the crap talk
Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier,
so she's nice and wet for you now.
And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can
cover their tracks easier.
Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with
you..you know when he's angry he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah
so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting fucked up the
shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
Now stop trying to play big boys
FOAD
GFAD
SMD
Joskyn
ThePsyko
<ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
dude.. It was just a fucking question re the I 0wn statement you
made.. not a comment on anybodys ability.. geez, lighten the fuck up
ThePsyko
wrote:
>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
>Hello Mr. Paxton
>
>you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
>
>i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
>
>you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
>
>
>Ah bollocks to the crap talk
>
>Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier,
>so she's nice and wet for you now.
>
>And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can
>cover their tracks easier.
>
>Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with
>you..you know when he's angry he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah
>so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting fucked up the
>shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
>
>Now stop trying to play big boys
>
>FOAD
>GFAD
>SMD
>
>Joskyn
>
heh.. well actually in another group he replied to my post with a
comment 'I 0wn' so I replied 'j00 1337?' cause I figured most people
wouldn't have a clue what the fuck that meant unless they had somewhat
of a clue re all this... apparently he's just a bit touchy....
Bryan Paxton
Chill out
P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and i'm sure you could find
something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
In article <393c1206...@news.earthlink.net>, thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
>>j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
> dude.. It was just a fucking question re the I 0wn statement you made.. not a comment on anybodys
> ability.. geez, lighten the fuck up
>
>
> ThePsyko Public Enemy #7
> "God told me to skin you alive"
>
> http://prozac.iscool.net
>
Bryan Paxton
In article <AQ88OShjzIv7uW...@4ax.com>, Joskyn ® <jos...@4q2.arsewipe> wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Mr. Paxton
>
> you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
>
> i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
>
> you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
>
>
> Ah bollocks to the crap talk
>
> Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier, so she's nice and wet for
> you now.
>
> And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can cover their tracks easier.
>
> Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with you..you know when he's angry
> he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting
> fucked up the shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
>
> Now stop trying to play big boys
>
> FOAD GFAD SMD
>
> Joskyn
>
>>j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
>>
>>#include <stdio.h>
>>#ifdef __MORON__
>>#define inline
>>#else
>>#warning you are a fucking lamer
>>#endif
>>
>>
>> int main() {
>>printf("Lame ass script kiddie!\n"); return 0;
>>}
>>
>>
>>In article <394007d9...@news.earthlink.net>, thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) wrote:
>>> telnetted onto some remote system (won't say which one cause I wasn't supposed to be there) and
>>> after logging in, took a look at the menu
>>> --- #4 was for usenet so I figured I'd have a little fun with this
>>> persons account and entered 4 only to recieve the following:
>>>
>>> sh: /usr/local/bin/tin: not found
>>>
>>> so I typed in 'post'
>>>
>>> and it stuck in a continuous loop where it kept flashing the above error message and the only
>>> way out was to disconnect...
>>>
>>> odd....
>>>
>>>
ThePsyko
<ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
>Chill out
>
>P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and i'm sure you could find
>something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
>
heh... well I have to wear a white hat all fucking day long... and to
keep up on that I have to have a bit of grey in it ya know :)
Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
still... and I was really curious about whether that loop would
continue after I logged off (good thing I used an open wingate) like
the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
time went on... found that one by accident - didn't even realize it
till the AS/400 admin came back to find out why resources were at
about 75% and climbing....
Bryan Paxton
or you used a program like screen to detatch it.
ThePsyko
<jstaniNO_S...@po-box.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
>
>Nothing's sadder than watching someone whose only life is using their
>computer to fuck with others attack someone who's already proven himself to
>have scarcely the intelligence of dishrag.
>
>
yup, and all dishrags know C++
you're such a fucking idiot (to borrow your own phrase)
ThePsyko
<toExe...@yahoo.whosaid.hipcrime.com> wrote:
>' thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) ' wrote in message:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:54:24 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
>><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>>
>>>HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
>>>Chill out
>>>
>>>P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and i'm sure you could find
>>>something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
>>>
>>
>>heh... well I have to wear a white hat all fucking day long... and to
>>keep up on that I have to have a bit of grey in it ya know :)
>>
>>Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
>>still... and I was really curious about whether that loop would
>>continue after I logged off (good thing I used an open wingate) like
>>the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>>immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>>response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>>time went on... found that one by accident - didn't even realize it
>>till the AS/400 admin came back to find out why resources were at
>>about 75% and climbing....
>>
>>
>>ThePsyko
>>Public Enemy #7
>>"God told me to skin you alive"
>>
>>http://prozac.iscool.net
>
>Heheh, yeah, endless loops eat up processor resources on AS/400's big
>time.
>
>This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
>AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
>this Psyko?
>
>I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
>a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
>limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
>hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>
>ExecutoR ®
>
>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>
>.
well my AS/400 experience is limited... my first real computer job was
as an assistant LAN admin for a software company that developed AS/400
software so I got to play with it a LITTLE bit, but not enough to get
a good understanding of it's inner workings, but yeah, other than the
default accounts that tend to use the same password as the username
(which any admin worth the title will have changed, I would recommend
it to anybody running a web server.. the cost is prohibitive though..
ThePsyko
<toExe...@yahoo.whosaid.hipcrime.com> wrote:
>>>ExecutoR ®
>>>
>>>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>>>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>>>
>>>.
>>
>>well my AS/400 experience is limited... my first real computer job was
>>as an assistant LAN admin for a software company that developed AS/400
>>software so I got to play with it a LITTLE bit, but not enough to get
>>a good understanding of it's inner workings, but yeah, other than the
>>default accounts that tend to use the same password as the username
>>(which any admin worth the title will have changed, I would recommend
>>it to anybody running a web server.. the cost is prohibitive though..
>>
>>
>>ThePsyko
>>Public Enemy #7
>>"God told me to skin you alive"
>>
>>http://prozac.iscool.net
>
>For sure. I ain't gonna go out and buy one. LOL
>
>I'm learning the OS right now (OS/400) but its not getting anywhere
>near teaching me any possible vulnerabilities. I havn't heard of any
>*ever* being compromised anyway so I doubt I'll live long enough to be
>the first. <g>
>
>ExecutoR ®
>
>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>
>.
that same company gave my ex roommate and I an HP3000 when they
upgraded but we never got that thing running correctly... I was too
busy learning NT and he was too busy posting personnal ads...
Bryan Paxton
In article <393f23eb...@earthlink.net>, Daito <da...@wickedsamurai.0rg> wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:41:06 +0100, Joskyn ® <jos...@4q2.arsewipe> wrote:
>
>
> <top post>
> Let me know if you would like Mr. Paxtons INFO
> </top post>
>>>> ThePsyko Public Enemy #7
>>>> "God told me to skin you alive"
>>>>
>>>> http://prozac.iscool.net
>>>>
>
> øøøøø|=WîÇKêЧåMûRãí==/
>
> YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHO WE ARE!!
> www.wickedsamurai.0rg
Damien
Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
| Nope, all user procs are killed once the shell is terminated unless nohup command is invoked
| or you used a program like screen to detatch it.
How long does it take after a telnet connection drops for the shell to
die? Is it different for ssh? rlogin?
Carl
>
> j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> #ifdef __MORON__
> #define inline
> #else
> #warning you are a fucking lamer
> #endif
>
> int main() {
> printf("Lame ass script kiddie!\n"); return 0;
> }
>
Ummmm....yeah. Ok, I think you are somewhat mistaken. How is he a script
kiddie again? Oh that's right I forgot, telnet is the choice of all
script kiddies these days. That code is just so amazingly elite too,
lemme tell ya'. I know all of nothing about C and I coulda cranked that
out. Sorry, I've wasted enough time on you, gotta go.
--Carl--
--
-----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
Version: 3.12
GCS d- s+:++ a--- C+++ UL++++ P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o+ K- w---
O- M-- V-- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP++ t+ 5- X+ R tv b DI-- D
G e h! !r y--
------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
Carl
for the hell of it?
--Carl--
Bryan Paxton
Password:
Last login: XXXXXXXXXX
No new mail
[XXXX@sQa XXXX]$
ps aux in another VC
XXXX 1306 0.0 0.9 2092 1220 tty2 S 18:01 0:00 -bash
back to the other VC
[XXXX@sQa XXXX]$ exit
ps aux in the other VC now
root 1320 0.0 0.3 1056 428 tty2 S 18:04 0:00 /sbin/mingetty tt
As you see the shell(PID of the shell) has died and mgetty is going back to waiting for another
login... Though this was done locally, telnet, rlogin, ssh, all work the same way... Except a getty
isn't waiting for a login...
To make a long story short, your shell dies as soon as you exit.
In article <slrn8joc2m...@SOLO.mit.edu>, dam...@DAMIEN.MIT.EDU (Damien)
wrote:
Carl
still don't like it when someone disrupts the already natural cycle of
trolls like this. But if ThePsyko doesn't have a problem with you, then
I digress for now.
--Carl--
Bryan Paxton
The Desperado
Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote in article
<1yV_4.427$ps.1...@news1.mco>...
> Yeah post my info you lame ass yuck yuck
OMG
He called him a "yuck yuck".
I can't believe he actually said "yuck yuck"
OMG
--
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http://desperado.port5.com
Java Script Passwords for Web Sites
How they work...How to defeat them
------------------------------------------------------------
HEY, COTSE has a NEW IRC section
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Everything for network/computer security
Damien
Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
| In article <slrn8joc2m...@SOLO.mit.edu>, dam...@DAMIEN.MIT.EDU (Damien)
| wrote:
| > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 16:27:20 -0600, in alt.hackers.malicious, Bryan Paxton
| > <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
| > | Nope, all user procs are killed once the shell is terminated unless nohup
| > command is invoked
| > | or you used a program like screen to detatch it.
| >
| > How long does it take after a telnet connection drops for the shell to die?
| > Is it different for ssh? rlogin?
[snip long story]
| To make a long story short, your shell dies as soon as you exit.
That's simple enough. But in the original post, he didn't 'exit'. He
just disconnected. How long until the connection times-out?
Bryan Paxton
In article <01bfcf45$1aacf9a0$e7d2e03f@desperado>, "The Desperado"
<the_de...@hushmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote in article
> <1yV_4.427$ps.1...@news1.mco>...
>> Yeah post my info you lame ass yuck yuck
>
> OMG
>
> He called him a "yuck yuck".
>
> I can't believe he actually said "yuck yuck"
>
> OMG
>
--
ThePsyko
true... I COULDN'T 'exit'.. I was stuck in a loop..
Bryan Paxton
[XXXX@sQa XXXX]# sshd
[XXXX@sQa XXXX]# ssh -l XXXX 127.0.0.1
XX...@x.x.x.x's password:
Last login: Mon Jun 5 18:01:27 2000
[XXXX@tr0n XXXX]$
look at the ps aux on tr0n
root 3187 0.0 1.2 2988 1576 ? S 18:35 0:00 sshd
XXXX 3188 0.0 0.9 2092 1216 pts/2 S 18:36 0:00 -bash
Now lets close the term up with loging out cleanly[e.g.: clock the damn X in the upper right hand
corner]
Now lets look at ps aux on tr0n again
Nothing, no shell or sshd session for user XXXX
Lets look at the syslog to confirm this...
Jun 5 18:35:41 tr0n sshd[3185]: Generating 768 bit RSA key.
Jun 5 18:35:41 tr0n sshd[3185]: RSA key generation complete.
Jun 5 18:36:06 tr0n sshd[3187]: Accepted password for byra from x.x.x.x port 989
Jun 5 18:36:07 tr0n PAM_pwdb[3187]: (sshd) session opened for user XXXX by (uid=0)
Jun 5 18:39:47 tr0n PAM_pwdb[3187]: (sshd) session closed for user XXXX
As it plainly shows the shell died off as soon as I closed my Eterm...
Now on very slow slow slow connection this might take a few more seconds for the shell
to get it a sigint... But only by a few seconds.......
Now let's end this discussion... : )
John Wesley Snipes
>
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Mr. Paxton
>
> you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
>
> i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
>
> you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
>
> Ah bollocks to the crap talk
>
> Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier,
> so she's nice and wet for you now.
>
> And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can
> cover their tracks easier.
>
> Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with
> you..you know when he's angry he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah
> so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting fucked up the
> shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
>
> Now stop trying to play big boys
>
> FOAD
> GFAD
> SMD
>
> Joskyn
>
Hack me, DickSnoT.
> >j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
> >
> >#include <stdio.h>
> >#ifdef __MORON__
> >#define inline
> >#else
> >#warning you are a fucking lamer
> >#endif
> >
> >
> > int main() {
> >printf("Lame ass script kiddie!\n"); return 0;
> >}
> >
> >
> >In article <394007d9...@news.earthlink.net>, thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) wrote:
> >> telnetted onto some remote system (won't say which one cause I wasn't supposed to be there) and
> >> after logging in, took a look at the menu
> >> --- #4 was for usenet so I figured I'd have a little fun with this
> >> persons account and entered 4 only to recieve the following:
> >>
> >> sh: /usr/local/bin/tin: not found
> >>
> >> so I typed in 'post'
> >>
> >> and it stuck in a continuous loop where it kept flashing the above error message and the only way
> >> out was to disconnect...
> >>
> >> odd....
> >>
> >>
> >> ThePsyko Public Enemy #7
> >> "God told me to skin you alive"
> >>
> >> http://prozac.iscool.net
> >>
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>
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
> >j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
> made.. not a comment on anybodys ability.. geez, lighten the fuck up
>
Don't cry, PussBaG.
John Wesley Snipes
>
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:28:56 GMT, "Staniforth"
> <jstaniNO_S...@po-box.mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Nothing's sadder than watching someone whose only life is using their
> >computer to fuck with others attack someone who's already proven himself to
> >have scarcely the intelligence of dishrag.
> >
> >
>
> yup, and all dishrags know C++
>
> you're such a fucking idiot (to borrow your own phrase)
>
You don't know shit, LabiaFacE.
John Wesley Snipes
> ><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
> >
> >>HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
> >>Chill out
> >>
> >>P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and i'm sure you could find
> >>something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
> >>
> >
> >heh... well I have to wear a white hat all fucking day long... and to
> >keep up on that I have to have a bit of grey in it ya know :)
> >
> >Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
> >still... and I was really curious about whether that loop would
> >continue after I logged off (good thing I used an open wingate) like
> >the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
> >immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
> >response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
> >time went on... found that one by accident - didn't even realize it
> >till the AS/400 admin came back to find out why resources were at
> >about 75% and climbing....
> >
> >
> time.
>
> This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
> AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
> this Psyko?
>
> I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
> a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
> limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
> hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>
You get trolled even in real life.
> ExecutoR ®
>
> PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
> Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>
> .
John Wesley Snipes
>
> HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
> Chill out
>
> P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and i'm sure you could find
> something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
>
You overestimate the imbecile.
> In article <393c1206...@news.earthlink.net>, thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) wrote:
> > On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> > <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
> >
> >>j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
> > dude.. It was just a fucking question re the I 0wn statement you made.. not a comment on anybodys
> > ability.. geez, lighten the fuck up
> >
> >
> > ThePsyko Public Enemy #7
> > "God told me to skin you alive"
> >
> > http://prozac.iscool.net
> >
>
> --
> Bryan Paxton
>
> I ride the short __bus__
John Wesley Snipes
>
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:41:06 +0100, Joskyn ® <jos...@4q2.arsewipe>
> wrote:
>
> <top post>
> Let me know if you would like Mr. Paxtons INFO
> </top post>
>
Is that all you can do, DimWiT?
> >On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> ><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
> >
> >Hello Mr. Paxton
> >
> >you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
> >
> >i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
> >
> >you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
> >
> >
> >Ah bollocks to the crap talk
> >
> >Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier,
> >so she's nice and wet for you now.
> >
> >And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can
> >cover their tracks easier.
> >
> >Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with
> >you..you know when he's angry he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah
> >so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting fucked up the
> >shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
> >
> >Now stop trying to play big boys
> >
> >FOAD
> >GFAD
> >SMD
> >
> >Joskyn
> >
> >>j00r friggin 3r33t eh ?
> >>
> >>#include <stdio.h>
> >>#ifdef __MORON__
> >>#define inline
> >>#else
> >>#warning you are a fucking lamer
> >>#endif
> >>
> >>
> >> int main() {
> >>printf("Lame ass script kiddie!\n"); return 0;
> >>}
> >>
> >>
> >>In article <394007d9...@news.earthlink.net>, thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) wrote:
> >>> telnetted onto some remote system (won't say which one cause I wasn't supposed to be there) and
> >>> after logging in, took a look at the menu
> >>> --- #4 was for usenet so I figured I'd have a little fun with this
> >>> persons account and entered 4 only to recieve the following:
> >>>
> >>> sh: /usr/local/bin/tin: not found
> >>>
> >>> so I typed in 'post'
> >>>
> >>> and it stuck in a continuous loop where it kept flashing the above error message and the only way
> >>> out was to disconnect...
> >>>
> >>> odd....
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ThePsyko Public Enemy #7
> >>> "God told me to skin you alive"
> >>>
> >>> http://prozac.iscool.net
> >>>
>
> |=WîاKêذ§هMûRمي==/
>
> YOU DONT WANT TO KNOW WHO WE ARE!!
> www.wickedsamurai.0rg
John Wesley Snipes
>
> Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote in article
> <1yV_4.427$ps.1...@news1.mco>...
> > Yeah post my info you lame ass yuck yuck
>
> OMG
>
> He called him a "yuck yuck".
>
> I can't believe he actually said "yuck yuck"
>
I can't believe you call yourself Teh Desperado.
> OMG
>
> --
> Desperado
> http://desperado.port5.com
> Java Script Passwords for Web Sites
> How they work...How to defeat them
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> HEY, COTSE has a NEW IRC section
> http://www.cotse.com
> Everything for network/computer security
Brash
__MORON__
fucking lamer
Lame ass script kiddie!
arsehole
dishrag
fucking idiot
LabiaFacE
fuckhead
lame ass yuck yuck
DimWiT
DickSnoT
imbecile
PussBaG
HTH,
Brash
"ThePsyko" <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
news:394007d9...@news.earthlink.net...
John Wesley Snipes
>
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:19:26 -0500, John Wesley Snipes
> <SPNAKj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >You don't know shit, LabiaFacE.
> >
>
>
> fuckhead
Maybe you should read some Judy Blume instead, chile.
John Wesley Snipes
>
> ' fuck...@here.net (Kill_Whitey) ' wrote in message:
>
> >On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:19:26 -0500, John Wesley Snipes
> ><SPNAKj...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>You don't know shit, LabiaFacE.
> >>
> >
> >blech.. I've seen better trolls in a Dr Suess book...
> >
> >fuckhead
>
> trolls.
>
You all seem to have your panties in a bunch over me, eh? Even
"filtered", I do more damage than 100 malixious haxors put together.
> ExecutoR ®
>
> PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
> Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>
> .
~T
John Wesley Snipes wrote in message <393C4363...@yahoo.com>...
>"ExecutoR ®" wrote:
>>
>> ' thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) ' wrote in message:
>>
>> >On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:54:24 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
>> ><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >>HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
>> >>Chill out
>> >>
>> >>P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and
i'm sure you could find
>> >>something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
>> >>
>> >
>> >keep up on that I have to have a bit of grey in it ya know :)
>> >
>> >Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
>> >still... and I was really curious about whether that loop would
>> >continue after I logged off (good thing I used an open wingate) like
>> >the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>> >immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>> >response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>> >time went on... found that one by accident - didn't even realize it
>> >till the AS/400 admin came back to find out why resources were at
>> >about 75% and climbing....
>> >
>> >
>> >Public Enemy #7
>> >"God told me to skin you alive"
>> >
>> >http://prozac.iscool.net
>>
>> time.
>>
>> This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
>> AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
>> this Psyko?
>>
>> I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
>> a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
>> limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
>> hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>>
>
>You get trolled even in real life.
>
>>
>> PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>> Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>>
>> .
>
>
>--
>Teh Death Metal Music Association
>http://listen.to/deathgrind
>
>http://www.mp3.com/gortician
>Dear Artist,
>Change the name of Vagina Dentata and Vagina '93 and we can take you
>out of adult status. This way your artist page will show up on a site
>search. Please let me know if you have any questions.
>Thanks,
>Mp3.com fuckheads
>http://www.mp3.com/gortician
>
>"I guess that makes us ALL 'groupies'." Geist comes to terms with the
>realities of alt.hackers.malicious in article
><3937DB3A...@the.AUK.forger.sucks.com>
>
Mr.Snipes.. I enjoyed your work in that Slyvester the Cat movie "Demolition
Derby". Using that eyeball on a spork to access a room was so neat. Hannical
Lector would have eaten said eyeball after the door opened, but you can't
have everything I guess. I bet that would be tasty with bacon wrapped around
it too.
~Terri
>
John Wesley Snipes
I'm JOHN Wesley Snipes. I think I was a 60's musician or something.
Maybe I played with Bob Dylan or something? Obviously, I was there, so I
don't remember it. But thanks, that other guy and I hang fairly
regularly, so I'll tell him you enjoyed that whole "White Men Can't Play
Basketball Very Well", and the Chiante gag. Wait for the sequels!
John Wesley Snipes
>
> And to sum it all up:
>
> __MORON__
> fucking lamer
> Lame ass script kiddie!
> arsehole
> dishrag
> fucking idiot
> LabiaFacE
> fuckhead
> lame ass yuck yuck
> DimWiT
> DickSnoT
> imbecile
> PussBaG
>
> HTH,
> Brash
>
Now I'll have to change all of my passwords...
> "ThePsyko" <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote in message
> news:394007d9...@news.earthlink.net...
> > telnetted onto some remote system (won't say which one cause I wasn't
> > supposed to be there) and after logging in, took a look at the menu
> > --- #4 was for usenet so I figured I'd have a little fun with this
> > persons account and entered 4 only to recieve the following:
> >
> > sh: /usr/local/bin/tin: not found
> >
> > so I typed in 'post'
> >
> > and it stuck in a continuous loop where it kept flashing the above
> > error message and the only way out was to disconnect...
> >
> > odd....
> >
> >
> > ThePsyko
> > Public Enemy #7
> > "God told me to skin you alive"
> >
> > http://prozac.iscool.net
> >
Kill_Whitey
bearhunter
ThePsyko wrote in message <39462397...@news.earthlink.net>...
>' thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) ' wrote in message:
>
>>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:29:39 -0300, ExecutoR ТЎ
>><toExe...@yahoo.whosaid.hipcrime.com> wrote:
>>
>>>' thep...@itookmyprozac.com (ThePsyko) ' wrote in message:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:54:24 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
>>>><ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>HAHA I'm fucking with ya man...
>>>>>Chill out
>>>>>
>>>>>P.S. cracking is gay, do something more productive with your time, and
i'm sure you could find
>>>>>something, and i'm sure you're clever enough
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>heh... well I have to wear a white hat all fucking day long... and to
>>>>keep up on that I have to have a bit of grey in it ya know :)
>>>>
>>>>Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
>>>>still... and I was really curious about whether that loop would
>>>>continue after I logged off (good thing I used an open wingate) like
>>>>the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>>>>immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>>>>response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>>>>time went on... found that one by accident - didn't even realize it
>>>>till the AS/400 admin came back to find out why resources were at
>>>>about 75% and climbing....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>ThePsyko
>>>>Public Enemy #7
>>>>"God told me to skin you alive"
>>>>
>>>>http://prozac.iscool.net
>>>
>>>Heheh, yeah, endless loops eat up processor resources on AS/400's big
>>>time.
>>>
>>>This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
>>>AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
>>>this Psyko?
>>>
>>>I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
>>>a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
>>>limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
>>>hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>>>
>>>ExecutoR УТЎ
>>>
>>>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>>>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>>>
>>>.
>>
>>well my AS/400 experience is limited... my first real computer job was
>>as an assistant LAN admin for a software company that developed AS/400
>>software so I got to play with it a LITTLE bit, but not enough to get
>>a good understanding of it's inner workings, but yeah, other than the
>>default accounts that tend to use the same password as the username
>>(which any admin worth the title will have changed, I would recommend
>>it to anybody running a web server.. the cost is prohibitive though..
>>
>>
>>ThePsyko
>>Public Enemy #7
>>"God told me to skin you alive"
>>
>>http://prozac.iscool.net
>
>For sure. I ain't gonna go out and buy one. LOL
>
>I'm learning the OS right now (OS/400) but its not getting anywhere
>near teaching me any possible vulnerabilities. I havn't heard of any
>*ever* being compromised anyway so I doubt I'll live long enough to be
>the first. <g>
>
>ExecutoR ТЎ
>
Just wanted to let you know that there are ways of hacking into an as/400
mainframe. The little bit that I played with it.... you can boot up and run
a batch file that will launch a "fake logon window" and then store the
inputs.... and then give a "invalid pass" line that puts you into the real
main display screen. Later you can grab all of the inputs..... and you have
the passwords that will allow you to get in.
bh
Damien
Bryan Paxton <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
| Ok, lets look at this............
|
| [XXXX@sQa XXXX]# sshd
| [XXXX@sQa XXXX]# ssh -l XXXX 127.0.0.1
| XX...@x.x.x.x's password:
| Last login: Mon Jun 5 18:01:27 2000
| [XXXX@tr0n XXXX]$
|
| look at the ps aux on tr0n
|
| root 3187 0.0 1.2 2988 1576 ? S 18:35 0:00 sshd
| XXXX 3188 0.0 0.9 2092 1216 pts/2 S 18:36 0:00 -bash
|
| Now lets close the term up with loging out cleanly[e.g.: clock the damn X in the upper right hand
| corner]
|
| Now lets look at ps aux on tr0n again
|
| Nothing, no shell or sshd session for user XXXX
|
| Lets look at the syslog to confirm this...
[snip]
| As it plainly shows the shell died off as soon as I closed my Eterm...
|
| Now on very slow slow slow connection this might take a few more seconds for the shell
| to get it a sigint... But only by a few seconds.......
|
| Now let's end this discussion... : )
I'd love too. *but* When you closed closed your eterm, enlightenment
sent your eterm a SIGTERM. I'm betting eterm cleaned up pretty well,
closed your connection and everything. What would happen if the
network went down? How long would it take to time out?
donoli
>>Heheh, yeah, endless loops eat up processor resources on AS/400's big
>>time.
>>
>>This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
>>AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
>>this Psyko?
>>
>>I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
>>a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
>>limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
>>hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>>
>>ExecutoR ®
>>
>>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>>
>>.
>
>well my AS/400 experience is limited... my first real computer job was
>as an assistant LAN admin for a software company that developed AS/400
>software so I got to play with it a LITTLE bit, but not enough to get
>a good understanding of it's inner workings, but yeah, other than the
>default accounts that tend to use the same password as the username
>(which any admin worth the title will have changed, I would recommend
>it to anybody running a web server.. the cost is prohibitive though..
>
>
>ThePsyko
>Public Enemy #7
>"God told me to skin you alive"
>
>http://prozac.iscool.net
>
#################
The vulnerabilities of the AS/400 have grown w/ the use of Client Access on
PCs that connect to the AS/400.
donoli.
#################
Bryan Paxton
Here I'm going to ssh into tr0n
then block tr0n via iptables(netfilter new ip filter layering system for 2.3.x/2.4.x linux kernels)
tr0n will see it as though I have completely went down so it shall be the same
So let's ssh in
Ok bla bla bla MOTD
[XXXX@tr0n XXXX]$
I'm in now i'm gonna block tr0n via iptables
DROP all -- x.x.x.x anywhere
OK *me counts the time*
But you see there is no time to count......
I have to end the ssh session with ^](because I can't do anything)
ps aux shows now shell or sshd session for user XXXX on tr0n
syslog shows the connection was dropped(e.g. interupted system call)
If you wish to learn more about *nix, networking in *nix, all about *nix... Load a variant
GNU/Linux or one of the *BSD(s), openbsd would be my first choice of recommendation.
Happy now : )
#EOF
In article <slrn8joo4o...@SOLO.mit.edu>, dam...@DAMIEN.MIT.EDU (Damien)
wrote:
Observer
> What would happen if the network went down?
If there was no expected activity, nothing. That's a feature, because
TCP/IP was designed to work over _unreliable_ networks.
> How long would it take to time out?
Depends. There is no default time out in TCP. Normally, timeouts are
applied and enforced at the user-level.
TCP has a Keepalive option, but this has to be requested explicitly,
and you can't set the time-out. In most TCP implementations, the KA
probe happens after 2 hours of inactivity, and usually 10 probes get
sent 75 seconds apart each before the connection is given up as lost.
For shells (telnet, rlogin, ssh), or other "clearly interactive" apps,
it's normal for the server to set the Keepalive option. But this is a
long wait! And, it's relevant only if the network goes down during an
inactive spell. Most of the time, there are packets going back and
forth, with outstanding ACKs and the like, so there are other ways to
detect the failure. At that point, the server side usually kills the
process group on the (pseudo)terminal with a SIGHUP.
That's what happened to ThePsyko's shell session, almost surely.
Observer
> Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
> still...
I've always wondered how NT admins survive without a CLI.
> and I was really curious about whether that loop would continue
> after I logged off
At least 99.44% of the time, no:)
Your login shell was apparently some menu program (maybe written in
Perl or Python?). Looks like it was badly written too, if it used sh
to run tin.
> like the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then
> close it immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait
> for a response indefinetly...
Could you describe this a bit further? Closing the socket should have
registered on the other side, so it isn't clear where the bug was (in
the system's TCP handling? in the user-level app?) The interesting
part is that in practically all TCP implementations, you can't send a
SYN and a FIN in the same packet, so opening and closing a socket, no
matter how fast you do it, will always result in at least two packets
going to the other side.
The T/TCP project was one attempt to get around this.
Observer
>ExecutoR ® <toExe...@yahoo.whosaid.hipcrime.com> wrote:
>> Pointers for self taught C++'rs?
The language sucks. It could be a meal ticket, but still, C++ sucks.
The only thing between it and eternal damnation is templates.
>> Do you have a good handle on pointers, arrays and classes so far?
Pointers are a pain in C++. Actually, in C++ you're supposed to shy
away from them. They're for hairy-chested C honchos only;)
> I'm at the point where you realize that classes make up half the
> picture and messages make up the other half.
Here's another reason why I dislike C++!
Yes, writing stuff for Windoze is a rich field for C++ programming,
but I still resist the idea that "if it don't compile in Visual C++,
it ain't C++". Microshit is a state of mind, you know?;)
> Messages save you from "spaghetti inheritance". Weird, convoluted
> stuff like header files feeding back upon themselves.
Actually, this is part of the _real_ problem, ie the problem in r/l.
The whole inheritance business is vastly overplayed.
But if you want to learn about classes and inheritance, my choice
would be to learn a language like Python. Get a feel for how it all
works (especially with Tk!), and you'll have an even better idea why
C++ sucks:)
Vampi Fangs©
Hash: SHA1
On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:56:30 -0400, Observer <nob...@ftp.warez.org>
enlightened us:
please stop, you are depressing me!!
i'm having a lot of fun with C++ and have just arrived at arrays...
i only wish i had more time to learn some of the other languages, but
C++ must come first for me...
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V--V
All is mystery; but he is a slave who will not struggle to penetrate
the dark veil.
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It is in our idleness, in our dreams, that the submerged truth
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ThePsyko
wrote:
That's true, by using the map drive feature in Client Access, you can
map a drive to places you would otherwise have no authority to go
to...
Observer
>> The language sucks. It could be a meal ticket, but still, C++ sucks.
>> The only thing between it and eternal damnation is templates.
> please stop, you are depressing me!!
Sorry!
No, wait! I take that back... the language _still_ sucks.
;)
> i only wish i had more time to learn some of the other languages, but
> C++ must come first for me...
Oh well, you gotta do what you gotta do...
BTW, Perl and Python have essentially the same OO model. (In fact,
Python's implementation was the inspiration for Perl's). So, if you
understand how objects work in Python, you'll know how they work in
Perl too.
spi...@freenet.co.uk
> Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
> still...
Save yourself... Install linux or freeBSD on your computer as a duel boot.
> and I was really curious about whether that loop would
> continue after I logged off
Simple answer... No.
The way unix (and linux) works is when you log in a shell is started.
(This is the CLI or menu system)
This shell is the parent of all processes started by it, and when the shell
dies, it kills all its children as well...
There is the odd exception to this, and there are ways to override this
behaviour, but as you don't know unix, you won't have done them.
(good thing I used an open wingate) like
> the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
> immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
> response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
> time went on... found that one by accident
NT bug, is it? Sounds like something M$'d overlook.
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ThePsyko
>In alt.punk ThePsyko <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
>> Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
>> still...
>
>Save yourself... Install linux or freeBSD on your computer as a duel boot.
heh.. most of the systems I use aren't mine but my clients and I don't
have permission to start installing additional OS's.. besides, keeping
up with the lastest NT bugs and problems is a full time job
>
>> and I was really curious about whether that loop would
>> continue after I logged off
>
>Simple answer... No.
>The way unix (and linux) works is when you log in a shell is started.
>(This is the CLI or menu system)
>This shell is the parent of all processes started by it, and when the shell
>dies, it kills all its children as well...
>
good to know
>There is the odd exception to this, and there are ways to override this
>behaviour, but as you don't know unix, you won't have done them.
>
>(good thing I used an open wingate) like
>> the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>> immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>> response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>> time went on... found that one by accident
>
>NT bug, is it? Sounds like something M$'d overlook.
actually the AS/400 is an IBM product :)
MissLali
<thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
D'oh. I loathe AS/400 - we use a twenty year old (literally) version
for our company's transaction system for service sale/part and warranty
stuff. The puppy was built as a one line per transaction beast and to
hold less than a third of the volume which it currently holds. Now
combine that with SAP which we also use - and which can't directly
communicate and a feed to a Vantive call track system. It goes without
saying this non-compatability w/o middle man/box software sucks monkeys.
Lali
--
"I would be a human being if I had a heart and soul/
but they took them both away and gave me rock and roll"
Observer
>On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:00:26 GMT, spi...@freenet.co.uk wrote:
>> This shell is the parent of all processes started by it, and when
>> the shell dies, it kills all its children as well...
>
> good to know
Actually, this is not what happens. There are two parts to the exact
process by which processes get killed off.
1. Processes running with your userid always belong to something
called a "process group".
2. When you login, you get something called a "controlling terminal".
The basic rule is that only a process group "leader" can acquire a
controlling terminal. When the terminal detects a "hangup" condition,
it kills all processes that belong to the associated process group.
On some Unixen, your login shell may be the process group leader, but
this doesn't really matter. (eg, in Linux, this isn't true.) It gets
killed by the kernel (with the HUP signal) like all the others.
The next time you're on a Unix system, try
man nohup
nohup is a program that allows you to run a background process that
will _not_ be killed off when you logout.
Bryan Paxton
Fuck this I'm starting a GNU/Linux thread
In article <lali666-D8A08A...@news.apple.com>, MissLali
<lal...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In article <rqdqjschagnq3add3...@4ax.com>, ThePsyko
> <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:00:26 GMT, spi...@freenet.co.uk wrote:
> won't have done them.
>> >
>> >(good thing I used an open wingate) like
>> >> the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>> >> immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a response
>> >> indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as time went
>> >> on... found that one by accident
>> >
>> >NT bug, is it? Sounds like something M$'d overlook.
>>
>> actually the AS/400 is an IBM product :)
>
>
> D'oh. I loathe AS/400 - we use a twenty year old (literally) version for our
> company's transaction system for service sale/part and warranty stuff. The
> puppy was built as a one line per transaction beast and to hold less than a
> third of the volume which it currently holds. Now combine that with SAP which
> we also use - and which can't directly communicate and a feed to a Vantive
> call track system. It goes without saying this non-compatability w/o middle
> man/box software sucks monkeys.
>
> Lali
>
--
ThePsyko
wrote:
>In article <rqdqjschagnq3add3...@4ax.com>, ThePsyko
><thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:00:26 GMT, spi...@freenet.co.uk wrote:
>won't have done them.
>> >
>> >(good thing I used an open wingate) like
>> >> the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>> >> immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>> >> response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>> >> time went on... found that one by accident
>> >
>> >NT bug, is it? Sounds like something M$'d overlook.
>>
>> actually the AS/400 is an IBM product :)
>
>
>D'oh. I loathe AS/400 - we use a twenty year old (literally) version
OMG, it must be huge....
>for our company's transaction system for service sale/part and warranty
>stuff. The puppy was built as a one line per transaction beast and to
>hold less than a third of the volume which it currently holds. Now
>combine that with SAP which we also use - and which can't directly
>communicate and a feed to a Vantive call track system. It goes without
>saying this non-compatability w/o middle man/box software sucks monkeys.
eek!! well at least you have happy monkeys :)
>
>Lali
boboboNObo
Ick!
>
> >
> >Lali
>
> ThePsyko
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alt.hackers.malicious was heard to moan:
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>: Just wanted to let you know that there are ways of hacking into an
>: as/400 mainframe. The little bit that I played with it.... you can
>: boot up and run a batch file that will launch a "fake logon
>: window" and then store the inputs.... and then give a "invalid
>: pass" line that puts you into the real main display screen. Later
>: you can grab all of the inputs..... and you have the passwords
>: that will allow you to get in.
>:
>That's not hacking. That's a backdoor.
>
>You can boot up and run. That means you have access to the box at
>some point. That means you were trusted. That means you're a
>luser. (Note the you here isn't refering to YOU but to someone who
>would use the trust placed in them to do such a thing.
>
>
>That said, there are many, many other ways to hack into an AS400
>without having it handed to you by granted access.
>
>But then, this is AHM and they need everything handed to them.
>
>Heh.
I just want to add, and check this out mate, that anyone that abuses
access that they have been granted, as a matter of trust, is a fuckwad
cocksucking dog fucking shit for brains.
That kind of choad chewing pencil penised pansy would fit in fine with
the old "owners" of ahm. They will not be tolerated by the new
management.
Please resume haxor-taunting.
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>And to sum it all up:
>
>__MORON__
>fucking lamer
>Lame ass script kiddie!
>arsehole
>dishrag
>fucking idiot
>LabiaFacE
>fuckhead
>lame ass yuck yuck
>DimWiT
>DickSnoT
>imbecile
>PussBaG
>
>HTH,
>Brash
A fuckin' plus dood. A fine summary of the sad state of affairs here
before we gained control over one month ago.
Even now, the air still bears a tinge of stank from the knob gobbling
past residents.
They were raising herds of gerbils, for reasons we are not sure of.
Perhaps to do their thinking for them.
>
>"ThePsyko" <SPLAT>
Nobody gives a flying trud about your latest self abuse session
Psfyckup.
Assdip.
Kill_Whitey
>
>Nobody gives a flying trud about your latest self abuse session
>Psfyckup.
>
>Assdip.
>
at least he gets a bit more respect than your stank troll ass....
Seig Hailie Selassie
>
> "John Wesley Snipes" <SPNAKj...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:393C5813...@yahoo.com...
> > "ExecutoR ®" wrote:
> > >
> > >
> >
> > You all seem to have your panties in a bunch over me, eh? Even
> > "filtered", I do more damage than 100 malixious haxors put together.
>
> ROTFLMAAY
> oll n he loor aughing y ss t ou
>
> sound like a little boy talking....... lol LOL
> *plonk*
>
Another fuckhead bites the weenie.
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>
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>From idiots who don't know any better, obviously, CrabCakE.
Cybernetics©
news:393C5813...@yahoo.com...
> "ExecutoR ®" wrote:
> >
> >
>
> You all seem to have your panties in a bunch over me, eh? Even
> "filtered", I do more damage than 100 malixious haxors put together.
haha, do more damage than 100 malicious hackers put together.
ROTFLMAAY
oll n he loor aughing y ss t ou
sound like a little boy talking....... lol LOL
*plonk*
<banner> MadAdmin </banner>
>In alt.punk ThePsyko <thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
>> Besides, I'm an NT guy, when I get onto a *nix system I get lost
>> still...
>
>Save yourself... Install linux or freeBSD on your computer as a duel boot.
>
>> and I was really curious about whether that loop would
>> continue after I logged off
>
>Simple answer... No.
>The way unix (and linux) works is when you log in a shell is started.
>(This is the CLI or menu system)
>This shell is the parent of all processes started by it, and when the shell
>dies, it kills all its children as well...
>
>There is the odd exception to this, and there are ways to override this
>behaviour, but as you don't know unix, you won't have done them.
Exceptions? Like the zombies I sometimes get on SCO Unix where a
process has gone to "sleep" and thus unkillable and somehow it never
gets woke up. Only way out is to actually reboot the machine. (even
says so on SCO's website) I suspect it's tied in to somebody doing
something that spawns an I/O request and suddenly decide to close
their telnet session just as the thing gets to "sleep" to wait for the
request to be processed. It's a quite rare occurrence but every few
months I'll find a zombie or two so I'll go ahead and find a time to
down the system to clear them.
>
>(good thing I used an open wingate) like
>> the old AS/400 DoS where you would open a socket and then close it
>> immediately - the system would send an ACK and then wait for a
>> response indefinetly... eating up more and more processor resources as
>> time went on... found that one by accident
>
>NT bug, is it? Sounds like something M$'d overlook.
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<thep...@itookmyprozac.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 05:08:30 GMT, "donoli" <don...@netmonger.net>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>>>Heheh, yeah, endless loops eat up processor resources on AS/400's big
>>>>time.
>>>>
>>>>This is the first post I've seen in this group in ages mentioning an
>>>>AS/400. It is claimed that they're un-hackable. What's your views on
>>>>this Psyko?
>>>>
>>>>I've heard the story from one of my instructors of an admin who buried
>>>>a credit card number in the system with a hundred thousand dollar
>>>>limit on it and challenged a team to find it. If they found it, the
>>>>hundred grand was theirs. Apparantly they never did.
>>>>
>>>>ExecutoR ®
>>>>
>>>>PGP Key ID: 0xFCC14B0F
>>>>Server: pgpkeys.mit.edu
>>>>
>>>>.
>>>
>>>well my AS/400 experience is limited... my first real computer job was
>>>as an assistant LAN admin for a software company that developed AS/400
>>>software so I got to play with it a LITTLE bit, but not enough to get
>>>a good understanding of it's inner workings, but yeah, other than the
>>>default accounts that tend to use the same password as the username
>>>(which any admin worth the title will have changed, I would recommend
>>>it to anybody running a web server.. the cost is prohibitive though..
>>>
>>>
>>>ThePsyko
>>>Public Enemy #7
>>>"God told me to skin you alive"
>>>
>>>http://prozac.iscool.net
>>>
>>#################
>>The vulnerabilities of the AS/400 have grown w/ the use of Client Access on
>>PCs that connect to the AS/400.
>>donoli.
>>#################
>>
>
>That's true, by using the map drive feature in Client Access, you can
>map a drive to places you would otherwise have no authority to go
>to...
>
>
I'll keep that in mind. When my company moves we're taking in another
division who's primary stuff runs on an AS/400. SO that means my new
computer room will have a new toy for me to explore!!! I've never
truly played with one of them before.....
Anybody remember the IBM 4341????
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> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:27:34 -0600, "Bryan Paxton"
> <ev...@seifried.org> wrote:
>
> Hello Mr. Paxton
>
> you is not knowing me, but I is knowing you.
>
> i am not very happys with the way your eating Mr. Psyko
>
> you is a nasty man and needs to have you monkey cut off
>
> Ah bollocks to the crap talk
>
> Listen arsehole, why don't you go fuck your mom, I was there earlier,
> so she's nice and wet for you now.
>
> And knowing you is so fucking easy, even a 12yr old Asshole OnLine can
> cover their tracks easier.
>
> Now, get off daddies puter before he comes home and gets angry with
> you..you know when he's angry he fucks you hard up the shitter,....ah
> so thats why you make him angry then? You LIKE getting fucked up the
> shitter by Daddy...Whatever turns you on then.
>
> Now stop trying to play big boys
>
> FOAD
> GFAD
> SMD
>
> Joskyn
>
Lmao, nice to know you're flames are still creative as ever Josk =)
<schnip>
Crawdad
HEY!!!! HEY!!!!! HEY!!!!!!!
My Dear British brother,
I would appreciate the insertion of the word *YOUR* in front of the
word Daddy...
With all those pedophile accusations floating around you know.
(not that I wouldn't do him just to hear him squeel)
He shore types like he got a purty mouth......
:-)
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