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Atheist ------------------------------

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Jul 12, 2018, 11:27:04 PM7/12/18
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> How can we verify a god exists?

Follow these guidelines:

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Universal Guidelines to verify any "god exists" claim:

verify - to determine the truth using the only reliable method for
determining truth, the Scientific Method.

We do not accept "personal revelation" (discredited as having no way to verify).
We do not accept writings having the unverifiable quality of fiction or fairy tales.
We do not accept writings shown to have been forged or manipulated to push a "belief".
We do not accept "faith", which can be used to either prove or disprove anything.

We adhere to the principle that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
evidence. "god exists" is such a claim; "god exists" has never, in 200,000
years of human existence, been proven for any of the thousands of gods claimed.

Yet we remain open minded; can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god exists"?
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There is no verifiable evidence of any god(s). None whatsoever.
Extortion (Believe or Burn) is *THE* foundation of Christianity.
Sycophant: a compulsive ass-kisser of un-evidenced dictator god.

aaa

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Jul 13, 2018, 12:22:22 AM7/13/18
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On 07/12/2018 11:27 PM, Atheist ------------------------------ wrote:
>
>> How can we verify a god exists?
>
> Follow these guidelines:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Universal Guidelines to verify any "god exists" claim:
>
> verify - to determine the truth using the only reliable method for
> determining truth, the Scientific Method.

God's existence is a philosophical question. Science has nothing to say
about it. The scientific method is meaningless and pointless on this
issue. Science does not study ghost. It can't.

>
> We do not accept "personal revelation" (discredited as having no way to
> verify).
> We do not accept writings having the unverifiable quality of fiction or
> fairy tales.
> We do not accept writings shown to have been forged or manipulated to
> push a "belief".
> We do not accept "faith", which can be used to either prove or disprove
> anything.
>
> We adhere to the principle that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
> evidence. "god exists" is such a claim; "god exists" has never, in 200,000
> years of human existence, been proven for any of the thousands of gods
> claimed.
>
> Yet we remain open minded; can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god
> exists"?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>


--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

MattB

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Jul 13, 2018, 12:30:15 AM7/13/18
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:27:56 -0700, Atheist
------------------------------ <a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> How can we verify a god exists?
>
>Follow these guidelines:
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Universal Guidelines to verify any "god exists" claim:
>
>verify - to determine the truth using the only reliable method for
> determining truth, the Scientific Method.
>
>We do not accept "personal revelation" (discredited as having no way to verify).
>We do not accept writings having the unverifiable quality of fiction or fairy tales.
>We do not accept writings shown to have been forged or manipulated to push a "belief".
>We do not accept "faith", which can be used to either prove or disprove anything.
>
>We adhere to the principle that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
>evidence. "god exists" is such a claim; "god exists" has never, in 200,000
>years of human existence, been proven for any of the thousands of gods claimed.
>
>Yet we remain open minded; can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god exists"?
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

They should have applied that standard to string theory and placed all
the money they wasted to researching something useful.

duke

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Jul 13, 2018, 7:46:14 AM7/13/18
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 20:27:56 -0700, Atheist ------------------------------
<a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>> How can we verify a god exists?
>
>Follow these guidelines:
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Universal Guidelines to verify any "god exists" claim:
>
>verify - to determine the truth using the only reliable method for
> determining truth, the Scientific Method.
>
>We do not accept "personal revelation" (discredited as having no way to verify).
>We do not accept writings having the unverifiable quality of fiction or fairy tales.
>We do not accept writings shown to have been forged or manipulated to push a "belief".
>We do not accept "faith", which can be used to either prove or disprove anything.
>
>We adhere to the principle that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
>evidence. "god exists" is such a claim; "god exists" has never, in 200,000
>years of human existence, been proven for any of the thousands of gods claimed.
>
>Yet we remain open minded; can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god exists"?
>------------------------------------------------------------------------

WE do not care if you get it or not if you don't care.

the dukester, American-American


*****
The Purpose of the NT Word of God is not to inform as it did in
the OT,but instead to form us in the very image of Jesus Christ.
*****

Atheist ------------------------------

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Jul 13, 2018, 10:50:49 AM7/13/18
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Atheist ------------------------------ wrote:
>
>> How can we verify a god exists?
>
>
> Follow these guidelines:
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Universal Guidelines to verify any "god exists" claim:
>
> verify - to determine the truth using the only reliable method for
> determining truth, the Scientific Method.
>
> We do not accept "personal revelation" (discredited as having no way to
> verify).
> We do not accept writings having the unverifiable quality of fiction or
> fairy tales.
> We do not accept writings shown to have been forged or manipulated to
> push a "belief".
> We do not accept "faith", which can be used to either prove or disprove
> anything.
>
> We adhere to the principle that extraordinary claims require extraordinary
> evidence. "god exists" is such a claim; "god exists" has never, in 200,000
> years of human existence, been proven for any of the thousands of gods
> claimed.
>
> Yet we remain open minded; can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god
> exists"?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

It seems our god-believers don't have even one tiny smidgen of verifiable evidence.

Only delusions of a god.

Andrew

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Jul 13, 2018, 6:34:53 PM7/13/18
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"Atheist" wrote in message news:tISdnfcOoeifgdXG...@supernews.com...

> we remain open minded;
> can anyone give verifiable
> evidence of "a god exists"?

~~~ DNA ~~

DNA is verily verifiable
evidence that we have a
most awesome Creator.

---> The Living God.






Glory to Him!

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 13, 2018, 6:52:38 PM7/13/18
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"Andrew" wrote in message news:gO92D.219935$mD.7...@fx31.iad...

> "Atheist" wrote in message
> news:tISdnfcOoeifgdXG...@supernews.com...

> > we remain open minded;
> > can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god exists"?

> ~~~ DNA ~~
> DNA is verily verifiable evidence that we have a most awesome Creator.

Nope. No evidence of any gods there.

duke

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Jul 14, 2018, 12:44:39 PM7/14/18
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 07:51:42 -0700, Atheist ------------------------------
<a...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Atheist ------------------------------ wrote:
>>
>>> How can we verify a god exists?
>It seems our god-believers don't have even one tiny smidgen of verifiable evidence.
>Only delusions of a god.

Reveal the facts behind your delusion that there is no God.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 14, 2018, 2:03:30 PM7/14/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:c2akkdljq9p7g5apq...@4ax.com...

> Reveal the facts behind your delusion that there is no God.

You're the one making an extraordinary claim; the burden of proof is yours.

duke

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Jul 15, 2018, 7:59:43 AM7/15/18
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Nope, not me. He's the one that said there is no God. I want his evidence.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 15, 2018, 9:18:35 AM7/15/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:1odmkd9skf1s8l8jv...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 14:03:28 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> >You're the one making an extraordinary claim; the burden of proof is
> >yours.

> Nope, not me. He's the one that said there is no God. I want his
> evidence.

No; you're the one claiming a supernatural being ... you prove she exists.

duke

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Jul 19, 2018, 5:55:50 PM7/19/18
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Sorry. I told him I want his evidence to support his statement that "there is
no God".

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 19, 2018, 6:26:51 PM7/19/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:v422lddsfrbk8tngv...@4ax.com...

> Sorry. I told him I want his evidence to support his statement that
> "there is no God".

If there are gods where can I meet one?

Alex W.

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Jul 19, 2018, 10:37:00 PM7/19/18
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You are too late.

Prince Philip has withdrawn from all public engagements.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 19, 2018, 10:39:12 PM7/19/18
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"Alex W." wrote in message news:frd06a...@mid.individual.net...
Then I have been in the presence of a god ... and there I was, wasting my
time, waving at his wife.

PatB

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Jul 20, 2018, 8:13:51 AM7/20/18
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>SAM IS THE NEW HOH!!!!
Be atmy place tomorrow at 1:00 PM.
We've gonna hang out all afternoon.
BYOB.

duke

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Jul 20, 2018, 8:18:54 AM7/20/18
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:26:48 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:

For some, it's alcohol, sex, food, gambling, etc, etc, etc.

For me, it's almighty God.

Take your pick.

Gronk

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Jul 21, 2018, 1:21:08 AM7/21/18
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MattB

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Jul 21, 2018, 2:23:33 AM7/21/18
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 23:21:09 -0600, Gronk <inv...@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

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>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL7FcvEydqg
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndcBLt-2vaQ
>


I like the second video.

duke

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Jul 21, 2018, 12:42:00 PM7/21/18
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:26:48 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:

He's there with you now.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 21, 2018, 2:45:10 PM7/21/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:6io6ld5e0ube57ibg...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 18:26:48 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> >If there are gods where can I meet one?

> He's there with you now.

Nope ... I'm alone ... tho spouse and cat are in the next room.

Street

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Jul 21, 2018, 10:21:30 PM7/21/18
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Did you look behind the chair?

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 21, 2018, 11:17:19 PM7/21/18
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"Street" wrote in message
news:1530387587553916704.845...@news.easynews.com...

> "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:
> > "duke" wrote in message
> > news:6io6ld5e0ube57ibg...@4ax.com...

> >> He's there with you now.
> >
> > Nope ... I'm alone ... tho spouse and cat are in the next room.

> Did you look behind the chair?

Yes, of course I looked behind the chair.

duke

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Jul 22, 2018, 5:32:11 PM7/22/18
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He's always there with you and your wife. He's keeping a running account of
your sins to be judged on.

duke

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Jul 22, 2018, 5:32:44 PM7/22/18
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Not funny, fairy boy.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 22, 2018, 5:40:08 PM7/22/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:ust9lddh9mppsa9du...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 14:45:07 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> > Nope ... I'm alone ... tho spouse and cat are in the next room.

> He's always there with you and your wife. He's keeping a running account
> of your sins to be judged on.

Prove it.


Oh, and my sins pale in comparison to the child rapists and their
collaborators. Still supporting the pedo-priests, Duke?

duke

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Jul 23, 2018, 6:28:50 PM7/23/18
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 17:40:03 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com> wrote:

>"duke" wrote in message news:ust9lddh9mppsa9du...@4ax.com...
>
>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 14:45:07 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
>> wrote:
>
>> > Nope ... I'm alone ... tho spouse and cat are in the next room.
>
>> He's always there with you and your wife. He's keeping a running account
>> of your sins to be judged on.
>
>Prove it.

God knows everything. But more importantly, he knows how you reject him.

>Oh, and my sins pale in comparison to the child rapists and their
>collaborators. Still supporting the pedo-priests, Duke?

I never did.

M.I.Wakefield

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Jul 23, 2018, 8:02:52 PM7/23/18
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"duke" wrote in message news:4jlcld53oc91qn2cs...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 17:40:03 -0400, "M.I.Wakefield" <no...@present.com>
> wrote:

> >Prove it.

> God knows everything. But more importantly, he knows how you reject him.

Failure to provide evidence of the existence of any gods noted.

Just Wondering

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Jul 23, 2018, 10:16:35 PM7/23/18
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On 7/23/2018 6:02 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
> "duke"  wrote:
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2018 "M.I.Wakefield" wrote:
>
>> >Prove it.
>
>> God knows everything.   But more importantly, he knows how you reject
>> him.
>
> Failure to provide evidence of the existence of any gods noted.

(a) The crosspost to alt.guns is way off topic.
(b) The reason this debate even exists is that theists
cannot prove the existence of Deity, and that athiests
cannot prove the nonexistence of Deity. You already know
this, you just want to pick a fight.

PatB

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Jul 24, 2018, 9:01:07 AM7/24/18
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Isn't that what life is all about? ;)

duke

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Jul 24, 2018, 1:31:12 PM7/24/18
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Failure to remotely consider what the rest of us understand without doubt is
routine for you pagans.

Rev. Ken Jones

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Oct 25, 2018, 1:40:43 PM10/25/18
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What is you verifiable evidence as to the origin of the DNA code.
No one actually knows of a natural verifiable evolutionary means
of it's evolution. Yet, it's real and fundamental to all living
organisms. So, the evidence of it's presence is evidence of a\
deliberate purposeful design.

Christopher A. Lee

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Oct 26, 2018, 9:13:32 AM10/26/18
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2018 13:40:43 -0400, "Rev. Ken Jones" <"Rev. Ken
Jones"@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 7/13/2018 6:52 PM, M.I.Wakefield wrote:
>> "Andrew"  wrote in message news:gO92D.219935$mD.7...@fx31.iad...
>>
>>> "Atheist" wrote in message
>>> news:tISdnfcOoeifgdXG...@supernews.com...
>>
>>> >  we remain open minded;
>>> >  can anyone give verifiable evidence of "a god exists"?
>>
>>>           ~~~ DNA ~~

How so?

>>> DNA is verily verifiable evidence that we have a most awesome Creator.
>>
>> Nope.  No evidence of any gods there.
> >
>What is you verifiable evidence as to the origin of the DNA code.

How is this meant to be evidence for the hypothetical god these
cross-posting religious spammers can't keep where it belongs?

But the answer is footprints in multiple differrent scientific fields.

>No one actually knows of a natural verifiable evolutionary means
>of it's evolution.

You know perfectly well that It's an objective conclusion going back
to the research into abiogenesis, because you know that precursor
nucleic acids even simpler than RNA were observed to evolve in
proto-cells.

> Yet, it's real and fundamental to all living
>organisms. So, the evidence of it's presence is evidence of a\
>deliberate purposeful design.

Argument from false dichotomy and personal ignorance to "conclude"
what you already believe.

It was a false claim of fact which has been rebutted and refuted over
and over again.

Yet you keep repeating it in alt.atheism as if it were an undisputable
fact.

The thread's sublect line is further evidencve that you are only
pretending that your unevidenced designer, doesn't have to be the god
you used to insist did it when you were an old Earth creationist.
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