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Hisler
May 16, 2012, 1:02:47 AM5/16/12
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http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2138/606/If_This_Passes,_There_Will_Be_A_Civil_War._This_Will_Outlaw_All_Hunting_As_Well_As_All_Ownership.html
For some time there has been word out of the State Department that
Clinton WOULD be signing a small arms treaty at RIO 20 next month.
Obama is expected to be there and he too is to sign the treaty. It
won’t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
sent around to gather up all
registered firearms from individual’s homes. As I’ve been saying
for 2 years – report them lost, stolen, given away – NOW. Or you will
have none. And be sure they are well hidden
even if buried beneath a flower bed. THIS WILL NOT GO THROUGH
CONGRESS – THE DIRECTION THIS IS BEING TAKEN BYPASSES LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS AGAIN. And this might give an
indication of just why there are so many foreign troops on the
ground in the US, and why there appears to be serious planning for a
major violent outbreak!
The Full Article Here:
www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
gave every nation a veto.
The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
national controls were better.
On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun
control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US
citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the
public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation
(in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while
cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is
committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in
Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States
has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers
from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find
that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm
ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that
the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any
firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction
center or face imprisonment.
This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
means necessary, so will gun control.
Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
direction in which our country is headed.
We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
For some time there has been word out of the State Department that
Clinton WOULD be signing a small arms treaty at RIO 20 next month.
Obama is expected to be there and he too is to sign the treaty. It
won’t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
sent around to gather up all
registered firearms from individual’s homes. As I’ve been saying
for 2 years – report them lost, stolen, given away – NOW. Or you will
have none. And be sure they are well hidden
even if buried beneath a flower bed. THIS WILL NOT GO THROUGH
CONGRESS – THE DIRECTION THIS IS BEING TAKEN BYPASSES LEGISLATIVE
PROCESS AGAIN. And this might give an
indication of just why there are so many foreign troops on the
ground in the US, and why there appears to be serious planning for a
major violent outbreak!
The Full Article Here:
www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
gave every nation a veto.
The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
national controls were better.
On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun
control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US
citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the
public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation
(in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while
cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is
committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in
Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States
has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers
from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find
that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm
ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that
the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any
firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction
center or face imprisonment.
This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
means necessary, so will gun control.
Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
direction in which our country is headed.
We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 7:54:16 AM5/16/12
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I can totally believe that. And, then, call in the UN
blue helmets to enforce it.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.
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blue helmets to enforce it.
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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For some time there has been word out of the State Department that
Clinton WOULD be signing a small arms treaty at RIO 20 next month.
Obama is expected to be there and he too is to sign the treaty. It
won’t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
sent around to gather up all
registered firearms from individual’s homes.
For some time there has been word out of the State Department that
Clinton WOULD be signing a small arms treaty at RIO 20 next month.
Obama is expected to be there and he too is to sign the treaty. It
won’t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
sent around to gather up all
registered firearms from individual’s homes.
And this might give an
indication of just why there are so many foreign troops on the
ground in the US, and why there appears to be serious planning for a
major violent outbreak!
The Full Article Here:
www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
indication of just why there are so many foreign troops on the
ground in the US, and why there appears to be serious planning for a
major violent outbreak!
The Full Article Here:
www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
Hisler
May 16, 2012, 5:18:10 PM5/16/12
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On 5/16/2012 11:59 AM, Gemini Jackson wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 10:03:20 -0600, Hisler<his...@cocks.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2012 1:21 AM, G. Morgan wrote:
>>> Hisler wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2138/606/If_This_Passes,_There_Will_Be_A_Civil_War._This_Will_Outlaw_All_Hunting_As_Well_As_All_Ownership.html
>>>
>>> That website is deceptive, blatantly.
>>> bullshit below was copied in the same font and size to FOOL the
>>> reader into thinking it came from a legitimate source.
> too seriously. It's riddled with some seriously absurd bullshit.
I'm an intelligent and knowledgeable person and I take it seriously.
>
>>>>
>>>> The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun
>>>> control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US
>>>> citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the
>>>> public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation
>>>> (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while
>>>> cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is
>>>> committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
>>>> laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
>>>> there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in
>>>> Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States
>>>> has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers
>>> >from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find
>>>> that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm
>>>> ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that
>>>> the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any
>>>> firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction
>>>> center or face imprisonment.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
>>>> care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
>>>> means necessary, so will gun control.
>>>>
>>>> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
>>>> direction in which our country is headed.
>>>
>>> Then "Gary" adds:
> spearheaded primarily, but not solely, by republicans are a far more
> practical threat.
>
> This is old, irrelevant news. No one's coming for anyone's weapons.
> If they ever did, and they won't, it would be a long, messy, slaughter
> and everyone knows it. Besides, I'd imagine most folks have one
> tucked out of sight somewhere just in case.
> -gj
http://youtu.be/P1imx9LQ_f4
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 10:03:20 -0600, Hisler<his...@cocks.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2012 1:21 AM, G. Morgan wrote:
>>> Hisler wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://beforeitsnews.com/story/2138/606/If_This_Passes,_There_Will_Be_A_Civil_War._This_Will_Outlaw_All_Hunting_As_Well_As_All_Ownership.html
>>>
>>> That website is deceptive, blatantly.
>>>
>>>> The Full Article Here:
>>>> www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
>>>
>>> This article was from 10/2009, BTW.
>>>> The Full Article Here:
>>>> www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/15/us-arms-usa-treaty-idUSTRE59E0Q920091015
>>>
>>>
>>>> U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
>>>> and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
>>>> sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
>>>> gave every nation a veto.
>>>>
>>>> The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
>>>> Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
>>>> administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
>>>> national controls were better.
>>>
>>> The first two paragraphs ARE from the original article, the
>>>> U.S. reverses stance on treaty to regulate arms trade
>>>>
>>>> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday
>>>> and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms
>>>> sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said
>>>> gave every nation a veto.
>>>>
>>>> The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State
>>>> Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's
>>>> administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that
>>>> national controls were better.
>>>
>>> bullshit below was copied in the same font and size to FOOL the
>>> reader into thinking it came from a legitimate source.
>>>
>>>> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
>>>> Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
>>>> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
>>>> through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
>>>> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
>>>> can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
>>>> in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
>>>> all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
>>>> governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
>>>> organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
>>>> Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
>>>> to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
>
> No intelligent, knowledgeable person would take the previous paragraph
>>>> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
>>>> Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
>>>> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
>>>> through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
>>>> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
>>>> can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
>>>> in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
>>>> all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
>>>> governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
>>>> organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
>>>> Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
>>>> to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
>
> too seriously. It's riddled with some seriously absurd bullshit.
I'm an intelligent and knowledgeable person and I take it seriously.
>
>>>>
>>>> The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun
>>>> control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US
>>>> citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the
>>>> public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation
>>>> (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while
>>>> cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is
>>>> committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control
>>>> laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that
>>>> there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in
>>>> Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States
>>>> has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers
>>> >from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find
>>>> that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm
>>>> ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that
>>>> the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any
>>>> firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction
>>>> center or face imprisonment.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health
>>>> care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever
>>>> means necessary, so will gun control.
>>>>
>>>> Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the
>>>> direction in which our country is headed.
>>>
>>>
>>>> We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
>
> Smoke and mirrors boys. Fascism by means of corporate-sponsored laws
>>>> We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
>
> spearheaded primarily, but not solely, by republicans are a far more
> practical threat.
>
> This is old, irrelevant news. No one's coming for anyone's weapons.
> If they ever did, and they won't, it would be a long, messy, slaughter
> and everyone knows it. Besides, I'd imagine most folks have one
> tucked out of sight somewhere just in case.
> -gj
http://youtu.be/P1imx9LQ_f4
Hisler
May 16, 2012, 5:18:44 PM5/16/12
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On 5/16/2012 5:54 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> I can totally believe that. And, then, call in the UN
> blue helmets to enforce it.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
http://youtu.be/P1imx9LQ_f4
> I can totally believe that. And, then, call in the UN
> blue helmets to enforce it.
>
> Christopher A. Young
> Learn more about Jesus
> www.lds.org
> .
de...@dudu.org
May 16, 2012, 5:25:39 PM5/16/12
to
On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:18:10 -0600, Hisler <his...@cocks.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
>>>>> Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
>>>>> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
>>>>> through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
>>>>> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
>>>>> can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
>>>>> in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
>>>>> all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
>>>>> governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
>>>>> organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
>>>>> Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
>>>>> to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
>>
>> No intelligent, knowledgeable person would take the previous paragraph
>> too seriously. It's riddled with some seriously absurd bullshit.
>
>I'm an intelligent and knowledgeable person and I take it seriously.
>
Well, we can give you one out of three. You may take it seriously.
>>>>> On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All
>>>>> Firearms in the United States. The Obama administration intends to
>>>>> force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens
>>>>> through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By
>>>>> signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration
>>>>> can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process
>>>>> in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties,
>>>>> all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign
>>>>> governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by
>>>>> organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George
>>>>> Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead
>>>>> to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.
>>
>> No intelligent, knowledgeable person would take the previous paragraph
>> too seriously. It's riddled with some seriously absurd bullshit.
>
>I'm an intelligent and knowledgeable person and I take it seriously.
>
Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 5:30:56 PM5/16/12
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I've found Mr. Hisler to be intelligent. As good as
some, and better than most.
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some, and better than most.
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Frank
May 16, 2012, 5:44:02 PM5/16/12
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where your dudu comes from.
de...@dudu.org
May 16, 2012, 5:48:50 PM5/16/12
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your guns.
Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 5:48:21 PM5/16/12
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What? Someone things Obama is not antigun?
What a thought.
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What a thought.
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Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 5:52:37 PM5/16/12
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A quick web search finds the Obama position on gun control.
http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
And, a bunch of other web sites.
Christopher A. Young
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http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/Barack_Obama_Gun_Control.htm
And, a bunch of other web sites.
Christopher A. Young
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Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 5:54:02 PM5/16/12
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http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
GunLaws.com
3-12-9
Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is
always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a
brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you
own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the
UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for
some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that
you did.
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the
citizens.
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term
memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under
the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage
(HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the
Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current
plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the
courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out
effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.
Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current
gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10
rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
capacity
of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal,
the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun
originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based
on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for
sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the
Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working
firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says,
"there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by
the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be
particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is
suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY
firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable
for the public.
The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that
devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
of disarming the innocent.
Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk
A partial list of gun rights groups:
Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
http://www.jpfo.org/
FREEDOM=GUNS
http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm
National Rifle Association
http://www.nra.org/
Second Amendment Committee
http://www.libertygunrights.com/
Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/
Second Amendment Sisters
http://www.2asisters.org/
Women Against Gun Control
http://www.wagc.com/
MainPage
http://www.rense.com
Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
GunLaws.com
3-12-9
Here it is, folks, and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is
always laid, and the Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to
impose upon us. They really do not believe you need anything more than a
brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you
own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the
UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for
some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but will know that
you did.
Remember, the first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the
citizens.
Gun-ban list proposed. Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term
memory cap), the Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under
the Bush administration when they knew full well it had no chance of passage
(HR 1022, 110th Congress). It serves as a framework for the new list the
Brady's plan to introduce shortly. I have an outline of the Brady's current
plans and targets of opportunity. It's horrific. They're going after the
courts, regulatory agencies, firearms dealers and statutes in an all out
effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.
Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun
bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process,
confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and
more, in addition to the Second Amendment. The Democrats current
gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse):
Rifles (or copies or duplicates):
M1 Carbine,
Sturm Ruger Mini-14,
AR-15,
Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15,
AR-10,
Thompson 1927,
Thompson M1;
AK,
AKM,
AKS,
AK-47,
AK-74,
ARM,
MAK90,
NHM 90,
NHM 91,
SA 85,
SA 93,
VEPR;
Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70,
Calico Liberty ,
Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU,
Fabrique National FN/FAL,
FN/LAR, or FNC,
Hi-Point20Carbine,
HK-91,
HK-93,
HK-94,
HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando,
Kel-Tec Sub Rifle;
Saiga,
SAR-8,
SAR-4800,
SKS with detachable magazine,
SLG 95,
SLR 95 or 96,
Steyr AU,
Tavor,
Uzi,
Galil and Uzi Sporter,
Galil Sporter, or Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).
Pistols (or copies or duplicates):
Calico M-110,
MAC-10,
MAC-11, or MPA3,
Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9,
TEC-DC9,
TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10,
Uzi.
Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG,
SPAS 12 or LAW 12,
Striker 12,
Streetsweeper. Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):
A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see
below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.
Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rim fire rifles).
A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a
detachable magazine, and has:
(i) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than
10
rounds.
A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine
capacity
of more than 5 rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kits.
Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal,
the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun
originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based
on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for
sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."
Note that Obama's pick for this office, Eric Holder, wrote a brief in the
Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working
firearm in your own home. In making this determination, the bill says,
"there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by
the United States military or any law enforcement agency is not particularly
suitable for sporting purposes, and a shall not be determined to be
particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is
suitable for use in a sporting event." In plain English this means that ANY
firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable
for the public.
The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a
sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that
devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement
with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by
domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause
of disarming the innocent.
Respectfully submitted, Alan Korwin, Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
Forward or send to every gun owner you know...
Watch This, If You Want More Proof:
YouTube - CNN- Obama To BAN Guns SPREAD THIS FOLKS, PLZ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nv3p2lLmjGk
A partial list of gun rights groups:
Gun Owners of America
http://gunowners.org/
Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership
http://www.jpfo.org/
FREEDOM=GUNS
http://www.tcsn.net/doncicci/freedom.htm
National Rifle Association
http://www.nra.org/
Second Amendment Committee
http://www.libertygunrights.com/
Second Amendment Foundation
http://www.saf.org/
Second Amendment Sisters
http://www.2asisters.org/
Women Against Gun Control
http://www.wagc.com/
MainPage
http://www.rense.com
PaxPerPoten
May 16, 2012, 6:41:05 PM5/16/12
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Geez...All that will leave me with is a few Claymores and a couple of
155 MM Cannon... My oh my...What is one to do? ;-p
Fuck Obama and the Black Horse he rode in on from Kenya!
BDK
May 16, 2012, 6:43:36 PM5/16/12
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In article <jp15jd$pu0$2...@dont-email.me>, his...@cocks.net says...
Perfect example of a kOOkvideo.
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BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster.
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BDK- Head FUD-Master Blaster.
Frank
May 16, 2012, 7:12:59 PM5/16/12
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It will be a slow strangulation of gun ownership other wise even guys
like you would be shooting at them.
Hisler
May 16, 2012, 9:48:37 PM5/16/12
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misanthrope
May 16, 2012, 9:58:15 PM5/16/12
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On 5/16/2012 4:54 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
>
> Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
> Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
> GunLaws.com
> 3-12-9
...
> http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
>
> Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
> Alan Korwin - Author Gun Laws Of America
> GunLaws.com
> 3-12-9
Parts of this look really similar to the IL crook county assault weapons ban
Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 10:56:46 PM5/16/12
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It's OK to trim some text, y'know.
"Hisler" <His...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon
May 16, 2012, 10:57:27 PM5/16/12
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I think more than one copy of the Democrat Gun Grabber
list were published.
"misanthrope" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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list were published.
"misanthrope" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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On 5/16/2012 4:54 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
> http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
>
> Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
> http://rense.com/general85/obs.htm
>
> Obama's Gun Ban List Is Out
de...@dudu.org
May 16, 2012, 11:13:38 PM5/16/12
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On Wed, 16 May 2012 19:12:59 -0400, Frank
They're out of time.
Padraigh ProAmerica
May 18, 2012, 12:42:30 PM5/18/12
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A President can sign any treaty he wants to.
But to take effect, it MUST be ratified by the Senate.
Once that happens, the Constitution says the treaty then becomes the
supreme law of the land; in any dispute between the Constitution and the
treaty, the treaty overrides the Constitution.
--
"A good march should make a man with a wooden leg want to step out."--
John Phillip Sousa
But to take effect, it MUST be ratified by the Senate.
Once that happens, the Constitution says the treaty then becomes the
supreme law of the land; in any dispute between the Constitution and the
treaty, the treaty overrides the Constitution.
--
"A good march should make a man with a wooden leg want to step out."--
John Phillip Sousa
Hisler
May 18, 2012, 2:03:10 PM5/18/12
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OBAMA OPERATIVES WILL COMMIT ‘REICHSTAG’ EVENT TO TRIGGER MARTIAL LAW
Posted by TCA STAFF
April - 13 – 2012
Tipping Points
by Theseus
The self-evident truth of the global Marxist conspiracy is growing
clearer and clearer. The bloated and weakened bureaucracy of American
government gasps and plods along, beset on all sides by thousands of
biting and striking scorpions. The communist serpents strike and
retreat, leaving their mark, one after another.
Through the most wasteful of means, they have sucked 15 trillion dollars
of debt out of the American name, leaving its once gold-standard rating
to be trodden in the dust.
The Sequence began ever since the Apparatus gained a foothold through
the election of the Impostor. It has been counting down to the
inevitable destruction of the American citizenry ever since, if they
(the American citizens) do not make one last attempt to stop it in time.
The Sequence follows a precise Blueprint and is in fact two-pronged. As
Sun Tzu said, the greatest battle to win is to take your enemy’s city
without firing a shot.
Barack Obama as a strategist, as a tactician, is virtually worthless.
As an actor, as a trained orator, as a hand-puppet who can read the same
speech over and over again, and make it sound as if he is coming up with
these ideas on the spot, he is superb. That is his only talent. That is
all he can do because that is all he has to do for the Apparatus. That
is his role.
What many Americans do not understand is that the election of Barack
Obama in 2008 did not merely represent the election of a man, regardless
of how flawed and totalitarian his ideology. It was the election of a
gang who was concealed behind Barack, a gang who used Barack’s trained
gifts as an orator, employing carefully designed speeches, to bring the
entire Machine into the White House and subsequently bring the entire
United States of America executive branch under their control.
It was quite a feat; in fact it was the first time it has ever been done
in American history, if not human history.
Once they had their foot in the door, Barack Obama settled firmly into
his role of a facilitator. He said what they told him to say, did what
they told him to do, read the speeches they told him to read, and (most
importantly) nominated the agents they wished him to nominate.
That is all he does because that is all he is capable of, but more
importantly, that is all he is meant to do. It is plausible deniability
and proxy warfare all rolled into one.
His election was a momentous occasion not because he was dark-skinned,
but because he was a communist agent. His election made history not
because of his Arab-American ethnicity, but because it was one of the
first times in history one nation literally took over another nation
through the use of democratic elections.
America is now over three years into the Sequence and the results are
becoming plain to see. It is leftist Democrat policies on steroids, in
short Communism.
Everything has been kicked into hyperdrive because this is the final
countdown. The dollar has been completely devalued, industry has been
completely hollowed out, unemployment is skyrocketing, theft and
laundering from the federal Treasury into Apparatus bank accounts has
exploded, and we have begun to see the first starts of the political
assassinations that so defines Communists.
For those wondering how it is that a man with the power of the
presidency of the United States could possibly be controlled by others,
there are several indicators to pay attention to.
<snip>
According to a former Clinton staffer, it was common knowledge that he
wasn’t eligible for the presidency due to not being a citizen of the
country.
Just one of those facts would be enough to blackmail anyone who was
President; taken together, you could make Barack do just about anything
you want.
Therefore, it is logically sound that President Barack Obama would
propose reducing the American strategic nuclear arsenal from roughly
5,000 warheads to 300. From 300, it is a small matter to destroy the
pitifully small number of remaining warheads, rendering the nation
utterly defenseless to a nuclear attack.
Communist strategy, while historically maintaining the vision of total
domination and absolute power, has also always been tactically flexible.
A careful observation of current events and the various
moves of the global Communists reveals two possible desired outcomes for
them:
• Conversion of America from a democratic republic to a Communist
dictatorship. Beginning with an economic Depression triggered by the
global Communists, this transition would involve mass riots, civil
unrest, and the imposition of martial law followed by the suspension of
Constitutional freedoms and rights. In the government crackdown that
would inevitably follow, the American Communists would consolidate and
strengthen their power by commencing a pogrom againsttheir prearranged
list of enemies.
This list would include media figures, business leaders, political
opponents, activists, and possible military figures. It would also
include leftists who are no longer useful to the Communists and would
become vicious enemies of the new dictatorship once they realized they
had been deceived. In addition to the murder of the Global Communists’
most powerful enemies, there would also be the construction of “enemy
camps” where future patriots would be sent for torture and murder, a
common element in Communist dictatorships.
This transition could conceivably make the use of Russian and/or Chinese
troops under the guise of “UN peacekeepers” if the Global Communists
deemed it necessary.
• Elimination of the indigenous American population for re-population
and looting of natural resources. Beginning with the economic Detonation
triggered by the Global Communists, this scenario is exacerbated by
strategic nuclear devices placed by Russian proxy tactical forces under
the guise of “Islamic terrorists”. Chinese biological weapons would also
be used to increase the number of casualties and clear the way for the
invasion. In the massive death and chaos that ensues, the Communist
agents in the government would internally sabotage the military, paving
the way for a traditional Soviet nuclear strike.
It is virtually impossible to determine the sequence, but there could
also be Iranian (Russian proxy) or North Korean (Chinese proxy)
inter-continental ballistic missiles launched over the US, sparking an
EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) attack and destroying the power grid at the
very beginning.
(Note: An EMP attack would disable every electronic device within the
range of its effects, including most modern vehicles with
computer-controlled fuel and ignition systems, as well cell phones,
internet, home computers, traffic signals, air traffic control
facilities, and police and emergency responder radio equipment as
examples.)
Domestically, the Communists are escalating the general mood of the
public and normalizing them to murder under certain circumstances. This
is imperative because murder will be pivotal to their tactics in the
coming months and years. The Trayvon Martin propaganda is a case in
point. In this case, they took an issue virtually impossible to argue
against and used it as the foundation for an argument for murder
(“Zimmerman wanted dead or alive! Kill Zimmerman twitter account”).
Since they are behavioral science experts, this was a sophisticated
propaganda campaign as usual and moved the nation spiritually that much
closer to acceptance of murder “for certain reasons”. There are key
reasons for them doing this. Every step leads to the next. The gangs of
anarchists, socialists, and communists disguised under the banner of the
“Occupy” movement are nothing more than one of their military arms.
The psychotic black supremacists disguised as the “New Black Panther
Party” are nothing more than another of their military arms.
The psychotic quasi-Islamist anti-Jew fanatics disguised as the “Nation
of Islam” are nothing more than another military arm.
And there are many more. These will coalesce.
One important thing to note is that it is impossible to fully determine
which option they will choose. Circumstances will dictate which path
they will follow. It could be that they will choose a combination of
both, i.e. martial law and disarmament followed by a nuclear first strike.
To say that the situation is under control at this point would be
laughable. So would be saying that the U.S. is at some type of critical
tipping point. The truth is that America is so far past the tipping
point, all that’s left is a question of timing.
It is a DefCon 1 level, sirens sounding, red-light flashing situation
that we are currently in.
Preparations for personal survival are of course first priority. Warning
others is the next. The last, but hardly the least important, is
organizing others who are of like mind and building networks.
http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2012/05/obama-operatives-will-commit-reichstag.html
Padraigh ProAmerica
May 18, 2012, 3:58:56 PM5/18/12
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Wkithout his TelePrompter, Obama is a lousy public speaker. He cannot
convey a coherent thought without stammering and adding lots of "uuhhs"
and "aaahhhs".
If you want to see a REAL modern ORATOR in action, look up speechs by
Amd. Alan Keyes on YouTube.
convey a coherent thought without stammering and adding lots of "uuhhs"
and "aaahhhs".
If you want to see a REAL modern ORATOR in action, look up speechs by
Amd. Alan Keyes on YouTube.
Stormin Mormon
May 19, 2012, 6:06:19 AM5/19/12
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I can easily imagine a Reischtag fire type event. Of course, followed by
martial law. It's for our own good, you see. Due to the severity of the
crisis, and all.
Well said. Check this out:
OBAMA OPERATIVES WILL COMMIT �REICHSTAG� EVENT TO TRIGGER MARTIAL LAW
martial law. It's for our own good, you see. Due to the severity of the
crisis, and all.
"Hisler" <his...@cocks.net> wrote in message
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Well said. Check this out:
OBAMA OPERATIVES WILL COMMIT �REICHSTAG� EVENT TO TRIGGER MARTIAL LAW
Barack Obama as a strategist, as a tactician, is virtually worthless.
As an actor, as a trained orator, as a hand-puppet who can read the same
speech over and over again, and make it sound as if he is coming up with
these ideas on the spot, he is superb. That is his only talent. That is
all he can do because that is all he has to do for the Apparatus. That
is his role.
As an actor, as a trained orator, as a hand-puppet who can read the same
speech over and over again, and make it sound as if he is coming up with
these ideas on the spot, he is superb. That is his only talent. That is
all he can do because that is all he has to do for the Apparatus. That
is his role.
Gunner Asch
May 19, 2012, 12:39:29 PM5/19/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 23:02:47 -0600, Hisler <His...@cocks.net> wrote:
> It
>won�t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
>sent around to gather up all
A very terminal job for those doing the gathering. In fact..Id have to
> It
>won�t be long before God only knows what contingent of troops will be
>sent around to gather up all
guess that Ft.Detrick would be a much much safer place to work.
Gunner
--
"The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry
capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.
It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an
Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense
and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have
such a man for their? president.. Blaming the prince of the
fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of
fools that made him their prince".
Go-dot
May 28, 2012, 12:09:10 PM5/28/12
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It's far more likely that they'll come for your tinfoil hats.
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