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How does Peter Frampton sing thru his Guitar ? How is the effect accomplished ?

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ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:34:40 PM1/1/10
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Ive always been intrigued with this. How is it accomplished
electronically ?

ZeusJupiter

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:36:09 PM1/1/10
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<5b109d06-e4e3-486f...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
"IlBe...@gmail.com" <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ive always been intrigued with this. How is it accomplished
> electronically ?

Explained here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box
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RichL

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:37:45 PM1/1/10
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IlBe...@gmail.com <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ive always been intrigued with this. How is it accomplished
> electronically ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box


JJTj

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Jan 1, 2010, 7:58:15 PM1/1/10
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Folks had been doing it for years, long before Heil n Ross/Kustom.

What folks forget to do, was pad the signal down. Before Heil/Kustom,
they would take any old driver and attach a tube, and shove said tube
down the cake hole. Without a pad, signal in ya mouth, down ya gut,
and forced into ya lungs (depending how ya chewed on it) did harm.

Folks who smoked and put the tube past the gums had lung problems,
if the signal was too loud, db wise. One guy, IMMSMW, in Canada
sucked the tube down his throat, and died from lung punctures, as
the JBL 2" driver attached to the 300A power amp was a bit too much.

Besides, it's a stupid effect, only Frampton made $$ at it, and it
gets old, real fast. Heil still makes one, I think, for sale.

Heil pioneered alot of PA concepts. Get the book:

"Pratical Guide for Concert Sound" by Bob Heil

Melco Publishing, 1978.

I got my copy.


JJTj


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Jan 1, 2010, 8:06:10 PM1/1/10
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JJTj wrote:
>> IlBe...@gmail.com <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ive always been intrigued with this. How is it accomplished
>>> electronically ?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box
>>
>
> Folks had been doing it for years, long before Heil n Ross/Kustom.
>
> What folks forget to do, was pad the signal down. Before Heil/Kustom,
> they would take any old driver and attach a tube, and shove said tube
> down the cake hole. Without a pad, signal in ya mouth, down ya gut,
> and forced into ya lungs (depending how ya chewed on it) did harm.
>
> Folks who smoked and put the tube past the gums had lung problems,
> if the signal was too loud, db wise. One guy, IMMSMW, in Canada
> sucked the tube down his throat, and died from lung punctures, as
> the JBL 2" driver attached to the 300A power amp was a bit too much.
>
> Besides, it's a stupid effect, only Frampton made $$ at it, and it
> gets old, real fast. Heil still makes one, I think, for sale.
>

Joe Walsh did it before Frampton too.

Nil

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Jan 1, 2010, 8:51:41 PM1/1/10
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On 01 Jan 2010, Jon <texasr...@suddenlink.net> wrote in
alt.guitar:

> Joe Walsh did it before Frampton too.

So did Jeff Beck, maybe even before Walsh. Probably got the idea from
Stevie Wonder.

Greendistantstar

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Jan 1, 2010, 9:28:19 PM1/1/10
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And Jeff Beck....

GDS

"Let's roll!"

iL_weReo

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Jan 1, 2010, 10:08:09 PM1/1/10
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On Jan 1, 7:34 pm, "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ive always been intrigued with this.  How is it accomplished
> electronically ?

I don't give a fuck.

Lu R

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:22:02 AM1/2/10
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"JJTj" <up yers.con> wrote in message
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>
>>IlBe...@gmail.com <ilbe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Ive always been intrigued with this. How is it accomplished
>>> electronically ?
>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box
>>
>
> Folks had been doing it for years, long before Heil n Ross/Kustom.
>
> What folks forget to do, was pad the signal down. Before Heil/Kustom,
> they would take any old driver and attach a tube, and shove said tube
> down the cake hole. Without a pad, signal in ya mouth, down ya gut,
> and forced into ya lungs (depending how ya chewed on it) did harm.
>
> Folks who smoked and put the tube past the gums had lung problems,
> if the signal was too loud, db wise. One guy, IMMSMW, in Canada
> sucked the tube down his throat, and died from lung punctures, as
> the JBL 2" driver attached to the 300A power amp was a bit too much.

FF REAL? LOL


Lawrence�Logic

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Jan 2, 2010, 1:57:24 AM1/2/10
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"Nil" <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in message
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This is an interesting page...

http://www.mocheez.fr/I%20Play%20The%20Talkbox/The%20Bag.html

A couple of years ago I was looking for a VOC voice box and I could only
remember that it was blue. I had a brain wave a few minutes ago when I
thought that it may have been made by Ibanez. Lo and behold...

http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/ibanez/first/talkingmachine

Jeff Beck used "The Bag", and maybe Joe Walsh used it too. Frampton
apparently used a HEIL, as per http://www.frampton.com/equipment.html.

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Lawrence
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more fertile." - Eric Cartman - 3 May 2006


choowie

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:46:53 AM1/2/10
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>>"iL_weReo" <calja...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>news:91394c0a-6e6c-4bea...@1g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...

Wasting time to send a message on usenet to state you don't give a fuck is
rather ironic.

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Choowie


Pig Pluckn

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Jan 2, 2010, 4:30:41 AM1/2/10
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In article <4b3efa05$0$2869$426a...@news.free.fr>,
"choowie" <choowie_...@free.fr> wrote:

That is what deranged mental case do when they HAVE NO
LIFE...well...THAT and HOWLING on the radio til they get hung up
on....oh yea....and MOLESTING LITTLE CAMPERS
--
"Scott Lifshine is the biggest joke on the Internet" -Desk Rabbit
�o|o�

Nil

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Jan 2, 2010, 8:11:27 AM1/2/10
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On 02 Jan 2010, "Lawrence�Logic"
<lawrence-Omit...@amd-p.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> This is an interesting page...
>
> http://www.mocheez.fr/I%20Play%20The%20Talkbox/The%20Bag.html
>
> A couple of years ago I was looking for a VOC voice box and I
> could only remember that it was blue. I had a brain wave a few
> minutes ago when I thought that it may have been made by Ibanez.
> Lo and behold...
>
> http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/ibanez/first/talkingmachine
>
> Jeff Beck used "The Bag", and maybe Joe Walsh used it too.
> Frampton apparently used a HEIL, as per
> http://www.frampton.com/equipment.html.

Here's a couple of clips of Beck playing "She's a Woman" using The Bag"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZlFTbvfKPE


another performance:

part 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p05vOgGNSo

part 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufiz4J1CSjE


And Beck Borgart and Appice doing Superstition:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBpSeyk1z4o

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:08:45 AM1/2/10
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Are you confessing that you have a problem with impotence ???

ilbe...@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:12:10 AM1/2/10
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On Jan 1, 6:36 pm, ZeusJupiter <umbras-72...@mypacks.net> wrote:
> In article
> <5b109d06-e4e3-486f-80ae-67bfed82e...@o28g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,

>
>  "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Ive always been intrigued with this.  How is it accomplished
> > electronically ?
>
> Explained here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_box
> --
> I am - I am
> Stronger than the wind
> I am - I am
> Sin
> I am - I am
> Stronger without you
> I am
>
> http://www.diomessageboard.comhttp://ronniejamesdiosite.com

Thanks man.

iL_weReo

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:23:19 AM1/2/10
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On Jan 2, 2:46 am, "choowie" <choowie_NO_SP...@free.fr> wrote:
> >>"iL_weReo" <caljamsc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

I had little else to do.

iL_weReo

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Jan 2, 2010, 10:24:06 AM1/2/10
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Oh yes.

Pig Pluckn

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:03:22 AM1/2/10
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In article
<dfafa62d-c451-443d...@n31g2000vbt.googlegroups.com>,
iL_weReo <calja...@yahoo.com> wrote:

and THAT is because u are universally HATED and AVOIDED by AWL PiGGy

Stephen Cowell

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Jan 2, 2010, 11:58:15 AM1/2/10
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"Lawrence Logic" <lawrence-Omit...@amd-p.com> wrote

> Jeff Beck used "The Bag", and maybe Joe Walsh used it too. Frampton
> apparently used a HEIL, as per http://www.frampton.com/equipment.html.

Joe Walsh (WB6ACU) and Bob Heil (K9EID) are old buddies.
I'd be suprised if someone else made it... let's find out!

http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/aboutus/index.htm

"The Heil Talk Box, made famous by Joe Walsh,
Peter Frampton and Bon Jovi, as well as
perfecting the first electronic crossover were
some of Bob's great products."

... just as I suspected.
__
Steve
KI5YG
.


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Nil

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Jan 2, 2010, 12:15:32 PM1/2/10
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On 02 Jan 2010, "Stephen Cowell" <stephenleeN...@gmail.com>
wrote in alt.guitar:

> Joe Walsh (WB6ACU) and Bob Heil (K9EID) are old buddies.
> I'd be suprised if someone else made it... let's find out!
>
> http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/aboutus/index.htm
>
> "The Heil Talk Box, made famous by Joe Walsh,
> Peter Frampton and Bon Jovi, as well as
> perfecting the first electronic crossover were
> some of Bob's great products."

Joe Walsh is a ham? I had no idea! It's so un-rockstar-like... but he
seems to be a goofy and independent guy, so I shouldn't be surprise.

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Jon

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Jan 2, 2010, 2:05:11 PM1/2/10
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Stephen Cowell wrote:
> Joe Walsh (WB6ACU) and Bob Heil (K9EID) are old buddies.
> I'd be suprised if someone else made it... let's find out!
>
> http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/aboutus/index.htm
>
> "The Heil Talk Box, made famous by Joe Walsh,
> Peter Frampton and Bon Jovi, as well as
> perfecting the first electronic crossover were
> some of Bob's great products."
>
> ... just as I suspected.

In the Bon Jovi case it was actually Richie Sambora using it.

Ken

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Jan 3, 2010, 5:51:03 PM1/3/10
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You should Google some of Ilbesucked's posts in other groups.
Dave (his real name) is an admitted homo. a creatioNUT who thinks
Dino's and Man lived together, actually believes the Earth is only
6000 years old, that NASA faked the Moon landing, and is an avowed
bible-thumping fundy moron.
Not to mention being too fucking lazy (or too fucking stupid) to
search for his own answers

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