Schecter Diamond Plus Pickups

[jhallen...@gmail.com]

Thinking of picking up an inexpensive Schecter Omen 6 for kicking around at home and I'm indecisive. The Schecter comes with Diamond Plus pickups, I've never heard them and trying to find info or reviews on them is pretty scant. My indecisiveness come from do I buy the Schecter for under $400 or do I buy a EMG 89/81 set of pickups and put them on my Frankencaster?

So if anyone has played the Diamond Plus PU's I'd be appreciative of their experience and review.

Thanks

[Incubus]

On 2018-08-02, jhallen...@gmail.com <jhallen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thinking of picking up an inexpensive Schecter Omen 6 for kicking around at
> home and I'm indecisive.

Permit me to give you some advice: buy a football if you want something to kick
around at home, although you would be better off taking it to a park to enjoy.
What on Earth would possess you to buy a guitar simply just to vandalise it, no
matter how inexpensive it may be?

> The Schecter comes with Diamond Plus pickups, I've
> never heard them and trying to find info or reviews on them is pretty scant.

Well, they're not going to last very long after doing your best Ritchie
Blackmore impression. The World Cup finished last month.

[jhallen...@gmail.com]

It was a euphemism. Thanks for the "comedy".

[Incubus]

That's not a euphemism; it's the perfect example of a dysphemism.

[Joshua Hallenbeck]

On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 11:59:47 AM UTC-4, Incubus wrote:
> On 2018-08-02, jhallen...@gmail.com <jhallen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, August 2, 2018 at 10:57:16 AM UTC-4, Incubus wrote:
> >> On 2018-08-02, jhallen...@gmail.com <jhallen...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Thinking of picking up an inexpensive Schecter Omen 6 for kicking around at
> >> > home and I'm indecisive.
> >>
> >> Permit me to give you some advice: buy a football if you want something to kick
> >> around at home, although you would be better off taking it to a park to enjoy.
> >> What on Earth would possess you to buy a guitar simply just to vandalise it, no
> >> matter how inexpensive it may be?
> >>
> >> > The Schecter comes with Diamond Plus pickups, I've
> >> > never heard them and trying to find info or reviews on them is pretty scant.
> >>
> >> Well, they're not going to last very long after doing your best Ritchie
> >> Blackmore impression. The World Cup finished last month.
> >
> > It was a euphemism. Thanks for the "comedy".
>
> That's not a euphemism; it's the perfect example of a dysphemism.

Listen, either contribute constructive or bugger off. Simple.

[Incubus]

That should read 'contribute constructively...'

There - I have been most constructive in my criticism.

[Joshua Hallenbeck]

Says the troll.

It's okay however.

[Flasherly]

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:01:37 -0700 (PDT), jhallen...@gmail.com
wrote:

> ...inexpensive Schecter Omen 6 f

I've the Schecter Diamond "C series" Blackjack. Diamond connotes a
wide range of Schecter's mix-&-match approach to guitars, covering
other models as well as an Omen or Blackjack. The Plus aspect of the
PU options, so far as I recall, would have been the only prominent
upgrade option I may personally have noticed: The same model, up one
is notably a PU improvement, being active or 9Volt matched and powered
PUs.

I'd expect a hell'va lot more gain, from powered PUs, potentially, "in
your face" tone, or, being humbuckers by nature, richer bass
characteristics. And one more cord, a power cord, to account, in case
you don't particularly care for batteries.

As it is, mine are passive PUs, not powered but paired and, needless
to say, individually switchable for single-coil.

Why I bought the guitar is because I'd looked over Schecter's
facilities, and a high degree of tolerances for finely processing by
in large "machined" guitars. If it's then cheap, a value, would then
be the secondary consideration. For the Blackjack's through-the-neck
design I wasn't disappointed (from a usual Fender single-coil stock of
guitars I also own).

For as much a side note to your query, I suppose. My Blackjack's are
lightweight humbuckers, comparatively, in my estimation. To say a
more modern approach for Stone Temple Pilots, does make sense, than by
comparison to anything I'd expect of some of poet Lou Reed's work*,
which can at times sound, to me, very similar to Neil Young.

I'd also have to discount any personal opinion because of the "Plus"
PU designee you're looking at -- apart from any wimpy implication to
the Diamond Blackjack's PUs. Which is neither fair, for as much a
greater import of style and talent have to figure. A newer aspect
which can get along quite well, by preference and among performers,
whom deliberately go contrary to tube amplification, for instance, in
underbiasing their amps, if not switching entirely to solidstate.


* [Lou Reed paraphernalia]
Guitars
Fender Telecaster
Carl Thompson six-string guitar
Steve Klein electric guitar
Epiphone Riviera electric guitar
Gretsch Country Gentleman
Gibson ES-335TD electric guitar
Steinberger Synapse Transcale ST-2FPA Custom
Fender Electric XII twelve-string
Gibson SG Standard electric guitar

Amplifiers
Fender 'wide panel tweed' Deluxe Amp 5C3
Soldano SLO 100 100-Watt Tube guitar amplifier
Tone King Imperial 1x12 Combo guitar amplifier
Sears Silvertone 1484 Twin-Twelve

[%]

its almost like reading a list of my stuff

[Nil]

Never heard of "Diamond Plus" pickups. I have a Schecter PT that has "Duncan Designed" pickups, and
most of the other Asian Schecters I've seen have them, too.

Try the guitar out and see if you like it. The most important thing is if the guitar physically plays well and
feels good to you. The pickups can easily be replaced if needed. I replaced the bridge pickup in the PT
with a Gibson Burstbucker, but I like the Duncan Designed neck pickup, so it remains.

[Pudentame]

On Thu, 2 Aug 2018 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), Joshua Hallenbeck
<jhallen...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Listen, either contribute constructive or bugger off. Simple.

On usenet? You're lucky you even got a troll response.

[Incubus]

Indeed, he should be most grateful.

Whatever happened to searching Harmony Central for half-baked reviews by
fourteen year olds who have spent twenty minutes with their new purchase?

[Flasherly]

On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 08:34:21 -0000 (UTC), Incubus
<incubus...@gmail.com> wrote:

>by fourteen year olds who have spent twenty minutes with their new purchase?

My favorite: I took it down, (it was handed to me by XYZ's national
chain guitar-store salesperson), and after playing a few bars, I was
compelled to improvise due the exceptional superiority of this
instrument. A crowd of course by then began to gather around me, and
the only thing that kept them from breaking out in an applause
punctuated by joyous demands for an encore, was the impression of
overwhelming awe I'd momentarily imposed over them. It was strangely
reminiscent, as if I were Elvis, having left the building. As if I
could see their delayed impressions beginning then taking hold,
crestfallen witnesses to my talent, after my performance review on XYZ
brandname guitar.

They have otherwise done well in adapting, reviews ones among the
little people, perhaps more prosaically than not since the advent of
computers. Where marketing demographics on especially the very latest
of Generation Z, though, isn't anywhere near to eclipsing. GZ is
apparently much more contrarian, beginning to save, and more likely
mindful of balancing that guitar price in light of continuing to live
with mom-&-dad rental fees.


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i do whatever i want

[christo...@gmail.com]

Well, this thread didn't help at all. Haha.

[jtees4]

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 07:54:12 -0800 (PST), christo...@gmail.com
wrote:

I can't help much, but I can tell you this:
I have/had three Schecters, the Schecter pups are good. I don't think
any of mine are/were Diamnond Plus....but I doubt that matters much. I
actually had an Omen 6, but that one had USA Duncan Active
pups....nice guitar all around. I still have a C1EA, but I put in USA
Duncans. I also have anTempest Custom 2006....the neck is a Desigend
by Duncan and it sounds fine, no need to replace.


Please check out my music:
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[Nil]

On 17 Jan 2020, jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> I can't help much, but I can tell you this:
> I have/had three Schecters, the Schecter pups are good. I don't
> think any of mine are/were Diamnond Plus....but I doubt that
> matters much. I actually had an Omen 6, but that one had USA
> Duncan Active pups....nice guitar all around. I still have a C1EA,
> but I put in USA Duncans. I also have anTempest Custom 2006....the
> neck is a Desigend by Duncan and it sounds fine, no need to
> replace.

I own one Asian-made Schecter (PT Goldtop, which is essentially a
Telecaster with two humbuckers.) The original pickups were passive
Designed by Duncan. They're OK, not great. I kept the bridge pickup
'cause it was good enough, but replaced the neck with a Dimarzio
Virtual Vintage. If I played this guitar more I might search for a
better setup.

[Aj Anning]

I just bought a used Schecter Omen Extreme 6 with the diamond + PU. I won't candy coat it....they are horrid. They are what I'd expect out of the no name PU you see on reverb etc that look 100years old and are "buy now" for $9.99 That bad. Year ago I bought a brand new Ibanez Geo for $140, got it home replaced strings on it first. After an hour I was asking myself WHY do I have an EVH Wolfgang Special that literally costs over twenty times as much?....That good. This being so (Ibanez Geo), I shelled out close to $400 for two Seymour Duncan pickups. I got them at noon, by 4 pm I was returning the Duncans, it simply did not sound better I was expecting this Schecter Omen 6 to be a tad better than the Ibanez. So on the Schecter I want to add locking tuner keys, all new wiring, POTS and switches. ...and upgrade the pickups (ha that wont be hard to "upgrade"). For simplicity, I was thinking the Schecter Apocalypse, but those bad boys arent cheap...and? are they even "bad boys" at the moment, Schector really hasn't impressed me in the Pickup area. Maybe DiMarzio's? Has anyone else done this on the Omen ?

[Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker]

4 year old message .

[Nil]

On 14 Aug 2022, Aj Anning <janni...@gmail.com> wrote in
alt.guitar:

> I just bought a used Schecter Omen Extreme 6 with the diamond +
> PU. I won't candy coat it....they are horrid. They are what I'd
> expect out of the no name PU you see on reverb etc that look
> 100years old and are "buy now" for $9.99 That bad. Year ago I
> bought a brand new Ibanez Geo for $140, got it home replaced
> strings on it first. After an hour I was asking myself WHY do I
> have an EVH Wolfgang Special that literally costs over twenty
> times as much?....That good. This being so (Ibanez Geo), I shelled
> out close to $400 for two Seymour Duncan pickups. I got them at
> noon, by 4 pm I was returning the Duncans, it simply did not sound
> better I was expecting this Schecter Omen 6 to be a tad better
> than the Ibanez. So on the Schecter I want to add locking tuner
> keys, all new wiring, POTS and switches. ...and upgrade the
> pickups (ha that wont be hard to "upgrade"). For simplicity, I
> was thinking the Schecter Apocalypse, but those bad boys arent
> cheap...and? are they even "bad boys" at the moment, Schector
> really hasn't impressed me in the Pickup area. Maybe DiMarzio's?
> Has anyone else done this on the Omen ?

I don't know what they do now, but a decade or so ago most Schecter
Diamond Series (their budget Asian-made line) used "Duncan Designed"
pickups, that is, Seymour Duncan-licensed Asian-made pickups. I have a
Schecter Diamond Series PT, a Telecaster-like thing with humbuckers.
It's a very decent guitar. The pickups are reasonably good - I chose to
replace the neck with a Dimarzio Virtual Vintage, which is somewhat
better to my ear, though the original wasn't that bad. I still use the
original DD bridge pickup.

I think their over-blingy "METALLLL!" models look kinda silly.

[Nil]

On 18 Aug 2022, <LostInThe...@noemail.org> wrote in alt.guitar:

> 4 year old message .

So what? It's not like it's competing for limited bandwidth.

[Life Is A Dream]

On 8/18/22 21:06, Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker wrote:
> 4 year old message .

At least it's on topic, unlike 99.99% of the crap someone - <ahem> -
posts here.

[Life Is A Dream]

On 9/2/22 02:22, Nil wrote:
> I think their over-blingy "METALLLL!" models look kinda silly.

I like the look of the Ultra III (it's not one of the blingy shredder
models).

[Les Cargill]

NIce. So you're the one who knows what the topic is.


So what's the topic again? It's been four years.

--
Les Cargill

[Abandoned_Trolley]

>
> I just bought a used Schecter Omen Extreme 6 with the diamond + PU. I won't candy coat it....they are horrid. They are what I'd expect out of the no name PU you see on reverb etc that look 100years old and are "buy now" for $9.99 That bad. Year ago I bought a brand new Ibanez Geo for $140, got it home replaced strings on it first. After an hour I was asking myself WHY do I have an EVH Wolfgang Special that literally costs over twenty times as much?....That good. This being so (Ibanez Geo), I shelled out close to $400 for two Seymour Duncan pickups. I got them at noon, by 4 pm I was returning the Duncans, it simply did not sound better I was expecting this Schecter Omen 6 to be a tad better than the Ibanez. So on the Schecter I want to add locking tuner keys, all new wiring, POTS and switches. ...and upgrade the pickups (ha that wont be hard to "upgrade"). For simplicity, I was thinking the Schecter Apocalypse, but those bad boys arent cheap...and? are they even "bad boys" at the moment, Schector really hasn't impressed me in the Pickup area. Maybe DiMarzio's? Has anyone else done this on the Omen ?

So ..... how did it sound when you tried it in the store before buying it ?

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[Life Is A Dream]

On 9/9/22 22:15, Les Cargill wrote:
> NIce. So you're the one who knows what the topic is.
>
>
> So what's the topic again? It's been four years.

Why don't you ask the asshole who's flooding this group with off-topic
posts, Mr. Sarcastic. Maybe he'll know.

[Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker]

Why don't you go learn how to play " Sweet Home Alabama " first
on that cheap made in Chinese piece of shit guitar
before you come back here.

[Life Is A Dream]

On 9/21/22 12:59, Willie Whittaker is a Putin Cock Sucker wrote:
> Why don't you  go  learn how to play " Sweet Home Alabama " first
>  on that  cheap made in Chinese piece of shit guitar
> before you come back here.

That's a strongly patriotic sentiment for someone who spends his time
riding Trump and the GOP.