Duckbuckers vs Vintage Rails???
Charles
Has anyone had any experience with the Seymour Duncan
Duckbuckers or *Vintage* Rails in a Strat?
Also: How about a Duncan Lil' '59 or Lil' Screamin' Demon
for a strat bridge pickup??
Any comments or suggestions welcomed...
Paul Brannon
"unexpected" midrange peak. I still have a set, but prefer the tone of the
noisier Alnico strat pickups. Using a JB Jr. in the bridge of another
Strat/parts guitar; like it a lot.
Paul
future perfect
em...it is in the neck pos of my Strat.
Dave Eichenberger
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Paul Brannon wrote in message <6vo9so$b...@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net>...
Dr. Shake
I have a Vintage Rails in the Bridge, Duckbuckers in the Middle, and
Lil' '59 in the neck. Very cool pick ups. The Vintage Rails has very
nice single coil sound. Pretty glassy I'd say. Duckbuckers have a nice
mid-rangy tone w/o being too obscene. They have a quacky sound, hence
the name. The '59 is smooth and warm. Has some twang in it too. Can't go
wrong with any combination there.
-- The Shake
Tom Kochie
quite, traditional
strat tone with the duckbucker. The other 2 do not sound like a real
humbucker but
do offer more output and tone than your traditional strat middle &
bridge
pickups.
I am selling all the above for $130 is your interested. I'm wanting to
sell my EC strat
and need to put back the original electronics.
Tom
Chip of Known Space
wrote:
>Has anyone had any experience with the Seymour Duncan
>Duckbuckers or *Vintage* Rails in a Strat?
I just got finished making a post about those a moment ago....
Duckbuckers have ridiculously wide polepiece alignment. Why, I don't
know. They were too wide on my Ibanezes; too wide on a friend's
Strat. Too me, they're the most strat-like sounding pickup I've heard
- so much so I don't know if I want to switch to something else even
though when I do bends in some places the pole piece situation gets
pretty bad.
Vintage Rails have a different peak. I like the Duckbuckers because
it seems like they don't peak alot in the frequency range I hate, but
above and below it. Vintage Rails seem to have a little more of that
1k-2k sound that I associate with "cheapnis". Still, better than alot
of other things. Vintage Rails will probably be my choice if I do
switch from the Duckbuckers (unless I can find some of the Brian May
Duncans somewhere).
Chip McDonald
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Jack A. Zucker
recordings you can hear them.
In his rig, they don't sound like vintage pickups at all but it's a
wonderful sound nonetheless.
-Jaz
Chip of Known Space
wrote:
That figures.. I've heard some of his latest, and I thought "hmmm...
that's kinda what I've been wanting recently, sort of a balance
between a typical Strat over driven tone and a more gained fusion
tone". Hmm. I just did a bunch of recording with a Duckbucker and it
sounds great, but I haven't done anything saturated lead stuff with it
yet so I guess the jury is out... I've got this feeling I'm going to
end up with Vintage Rails, though.
Having said that, I played some Brian May Seymour Duncans last weekend
that ruled (for me). They seemed to peak much, much lower than a
normal single coil, and the peak sounds like it has a wider Q as well
(maybe the magnet size?). I've always battled the inherent sound of
the electric guitar, the treble peak between about 800 and 3-4k -
which I really hate. The Brian May pickups seem to live much lower
than a typical single coil, which is really cool.
The bad part is they don't make them anymore, apparently...
Krantz... man, I can *never* remember what I want to buy the moment I
walk in a record store...<g>
steve...@my-dejanews.com
a 'worst case scenario'-I may find myself in a CD store(s), a computer mega-
store, a consignment music equip store and one or 2 'new' musical equip
retailers-all in an aftrernoon/evening.
Memory not being what it used to be, I now write down the specific stuff I
Have to have for the weekend gigs and then priotitize it and get it. I
usually find myself ahead of schedule using this method and use the additonal
time to blow 'extra' money (hah) on other small items in a given store, or
try out new gear etc.
I used to hate it when I'd go to a music store for 2 or 3 'must haves' (cords,
strigs picks, mic adaptor) and get overwhelmed trying out an FX box or a new
amp or guitar, then go home missing one or 2 of the "must haves." Same with
CD's.
Steve
> Krantz... man, I can *never* remember what I want to buy the moment I
> walk in a record store...<g>
>
> Chip McDonald
> ]]] Chip McDonald - ch...@mindspring.com
> ]]] "Try to be reasonable whenever possible"
> ]]] http://www.mindspring.com/~chipm/chip.htm
> ]]] Musician, voracious reader, overly contemplative thinker, punching bag
for fate.
> ]]] "People think I'm in my own world; that's ok, they know me there" - J.
Hodgson
>
>
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Graydon D. Stuckey
> > Has anyone had any experience with the Seymour Duncan
> > Duckbuckers or *Vintage* Rails in a Strat?
> >
> > Any comments or suggestions welcomed...
>
> I have a Vintage Rails in the Bridge, Duckbuckers in the Middle, and
> Lil' '59 in the neck. Very cool pick ups. The Vintage Rails has very
> nice single coil sound. Pretty glassy I'd say. Duckbuckers have a nice
I have a Hot Rails in the bridge of my 50th Anniversary Strat and Cool
Rails in the neck and middle. I tried a Vintage rails in all three
positions, and couldn't get any quack out of it at all. I went back to
the Hotrails/Cool Rails combination. These pickups seem to blend well,
and they have a decent amount of snap in the 2 and 4 positions. They are
all definitely more midrangey than the true single coil, even if you tap
into one coil only, but the versatility of getting close to a single coil,
_and_ getting a good double coil sound (especially in the bridge position)
makes the guitar much more useful. I listened to some DATs of the guitar
when it was new with the original single coil pickups, and the tone was
very nice (much more glassy), but the guitar had much less utility than it
has now. In some ways too, the tone is better now. I guess my point is
that both single and double coil pickups have their place. You can't
replace one with the other for everything.
Later,
Graydon D. Stuckey
"There's alot more to Jazz than just wrong notes"
Jack A. Zucker
output is. The output seems about 2/3rds of a standard single coil!
-Jaz
steve...@my-dejanews.com
Chip of Known Space
>One thing noone's mentioned about the duckbuckers is how low the
>output is. The output seems about 2/3rds of a standard single coil!
I have one in one of my guitars; I would say the output is lower in
the midrange/low treble, but the top and bottom is just as loud
as an average single coil. In other words - I don't cut the eq the
same way with this pickup, which is what I like.
What I don't like is the polepieces being so wide they don't line up
properly on my guitar. What *is* daffy is I can't figure out a guitar
with spacing wide enough for the polepieces (yes, I have a neck
position in the neck position...).
I don't know if I can deal with the weirdness when I bend (because of
the alignment), but the tone rules otherwise. The timbre I dislike in
the treble - that I normally fight with the eq controls - isn't there.
Total bell-like round sound. Also, the high end is more detailed it
seems - you can't really go nuts with touch sensitivity. You have to
be careful or they get too thin, though.
The Vintage Rails I've heard are similiar but with a little more upper
mids/treble. I'm afraid I'll end up with those if I can't find any
Brian May models.