Just.Me
anything by Kurt Cobain and Soundgarden and Pearl Jam
Here's one the oldsters like me probably remember, if their memories are still
intact: the solo in "Lightning Strikes" by Lou Christie. Definitely the
wimpiest solo ever, and totally unnecessary. They should've put in a sax solo
or something instead. (Even a xylophone solo would've been more interesting!)
anything by Yngwie Malmstein
For some reason, the solo in Aerosmith's "Janie's Got a Gun" is like nails
on a chalkboard to me.
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Sheli
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"Heartbreaker" by Led Zeppelin
- how did that get on the record?
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Southpa wrote:
> Dr. Hook song, Cover Of The Rolling Stone,.
>
>
> ROCK N' ROLLLL!!! Then solo ....sort of, lol.
no..that was beautiful
Take ur pick .. compared to me they all suck :-ppp
Floortje
any guitar solo that is unessessary and doesn't fit the song. Too many songs
have guitar solos kind of taped in before the middle 8. Oh and I really hate
those kind of clean strat sound session muso solos on most of Sting's stuff.
Cheers,
Pete
Chicago.....Chicago Transit Authority album,
the song "Freeform Guitar" pretty much does it for me.
Cheers,
robert
A glaring blemish in an otherwise meticulously overproduced album.
-dave
www.themoodrings.com (green ring = sounds)
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That whole song makes me violently ill.
How could they do that?
--
Thad
"All I wanted, in the end,
Was world domination
And a whole lot of money to spend."
I played a couple of real nasty ones at a jam the other night- it just
wasn't happening. I really really sucked. They were attempts at clean
solos- wrong notes, bad bends, and totally uninspired- garbage. If I had
those on tape, no one could touch 'em in terms of pure shittiness. I was so
disgusted that I put my guitar down and played bass for the rest of the jam.
It was either that or snap the guitar over my knee.
Never solo when you don't have anything to say- it's assured that it'll
suck.
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The worst solo ever is by the Rock-A-Teens, on "Woo Hoo". The
guitarist basically steps closer to the mike and plays the chord
progression to the song, but with FEELLING! This song also has the
worst drum solo ever, complete with cowbell.
Regarding bands of the past decade or so, I can't stand any solos by
the guitarist for Candlebox. Especially the solo for "You", where he
ends by holding the high E bend for several unneccessary bars (but
with FEELING!).
David
Yeah, "best ever" and "worst of all time" lists can be pretty silly.
It's all subjective. So, in that light, here's my vote for the
all-time worst solo:
"I'm Easy" by The Commodores. Why? because it attempts to convey a
feeling of laid-back soul, and fails miserably. It doesn't fit the
atmosphere of the song. And the fast slide up the neck (right after
the opening B.B. King lick) is the silliest thing I've ever heard in a
hit song (even in the drug-saturated 70's). And then the guy has the
nerve to slide back down the neck a few seconds later. To this day, it
still cracks me up whenever I hear it. Faith No More did a great cover
of this song, and ironically kept the solo intact. But they did it
with a smirk. The original is amazing, because it feels like the
guitarist really meant it.
It's the guitar-solo equivalent of an Ed Wood movie. Unitentionally
hilarious, but earnest.
- Rich Johnson
(waiting for hate-mail from Lionel Ritchie fans... if there are any
left...)
I was reading the "Kiss and Makeup" by gene simmons, and I think i remember
reading that Ace didn't actually perform his solos on albums, but that they
brought someone else in to do them. I may be mistaken though
>"Oh Sherrie" from Steve Perry solo stuff.
>
I agree. Is that the same player who did "You're So Vain"? They're
similar.
For tone - 'Owner of a Lonely Heart' by Trevor Rabin.
The bum notes and sour bends provoke tears of laughter
every time.
The funniest thing is - the solo is double-tracked,
with 2 equally bad performances racked up against each other.
Elmo' 7#9
Shit, I forgot that one- pretty stinky. What about Hot Blooded by
Foreigner- that's a laugher.
> While you're at it how about buying an affinity squire just so you can Kurt
> Corbain it...
>
blow off the headstock with a shotgun?
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> Adrian Vanderberg's wankage in Whitesnake's (retch) Here I Go Again. The
> guy's a good player, but that solo just stinks.
actually, that solo was done by John Sykes.
the worst soloist in a popular song? I think that's have to be a tie
between CC DeVille of Poison (particularly "Unskinny Bop") and Mick Mars
of Motley Crue on the early albums (particularly "Home Sweet Home").
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Me too. Ace rips!
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> I'm getting bored with the "World's greatest" thread so I thought I'd
> be a little different and ask what you think is the most uneccessary
> "solo" ever! With luck, no one will respond to this post, and no one
> will ever bring back that "World's greatest guitar solo" thread :-(
> Let it go people!
>
> Just.Me
Any solo where wank bars are over-used, especially dive-bombs. And solos
where the player is just showing off how fast he can do sweep arpeggios.
BARF!
I could name a thousand examples, but naming even one not worth my time.
...let alone the singing. ;-)
Anyone else hate the solo in "Cult of personality"
by Living Color. Some say its jazz, but it sounds
dam awful on the ears. Ruined what would've been
a great song in it's day.
That whole book is one big defamation suit should Ace ever want to pursue
that option.
:
:
:and I think i remember
:>reading that Ace didn't actually perform his solos on albums, but that
they
:>brought someone else in to do them. I may be mistaken though
:
:
:Ace played almost everything on the albums, with a few exceptions, in
:the albums in the 70s. I think "Sweet Pain" is Dick Waggoner...? There
:might have been a couple others.
:
I don't think Ace Frehley played on Destroyer at all, a clash of
personalities with Bob Ezrin more than anything. I remember reading in that
book about some producer they had in there once who taught them how to tune
up using harmonics would you believe - might have been Ezrin. That's really
sad. Simmons really lays their lack of musicianship bare almost naively, but
not quite, as it was all a means to an end for him and Stanley Eisen.
$immon$ would market his mother.
Soundgarden had some good guitar work in their albums.
Pearl Jam - how many guitarists in that band ? How many memorable solos ?
Whatever happened to Pat Smear or Jason Everman anyway ?
> The worst solo ever is by the Rock-A-Teens, on "Woo Hoo". The
> guitarist basically steps closer to the mike and plays the chord
> progression to the song, but with FEELLING! This song also has the
> worst drum solo ever, complete with cowbell.
Is this the same song The 5678's cover in Kill Bill? They do a
kick-ass remake (or maybe I just like it because Uma Thurman is
literally kicking ass while they play...)
- Rich Johnson
> Cinnamon Girl by Neil Young. Open high E all the way. Makes me want to
> scratch his eyes out and choke him.
*sigh* I actually LOVE that solo. It's stupid and primitive, but in
the best possible way. Pure transcendant Zen guitar. Oh well, to each
his or her own... your mileage may vary... etc.
- Rich Johnson
> Shit, I forgot that one- pretty stinky. What about Hot Blooded by
> Foreigner- that's a laugher.
As a citizen of Rochester, NY (Lou Graham's home town) I'm not allowed
to say anything bad about Foreigner. Everyone I know has an older
brother or cousin or something who knew Lou before he was famous. It's
kind of like how the supermarkets here only stock Kodak film (Kodak is
a local business that used to own this city, before they started
losing to the competition). Say something bad, and I might dissapear
mysteriously...
- Rich Johnson (*psst* but yeah... that solo sucks.)
In that case, get his name right! Lou Gramm. ;oP
Anything by Jeff bloody Beck! Controversial, I know!
> I'm getting bored with the "World's greatest" thread so I thought I'd
> be a little different and ask what you think is the most uneccessary
> "solo" ever! With luck, no one will respond to this post, and no one
> will ever bring back that "World's greatest guitar solo" thread :-(
> Let it go people!
>
> Just.Me
This was intended as being a silly joke but you guys are really
hilarious! Thanks for the laughs ;-}
Just.Me
That is probably my single favorite solo of all time expressing rock n roll
attitude. You do know it's a "joke" right? Ever see Chong play guitar in the
Cheech and Chong movies? Same thing. There's guys out there that would give
both arms to be able to once play a song like probably any of us can play.
If you ever put their kind of "heart" with true talent, you'll have
something.
I've noticed stuff like that with myself too. There's so much more to it
than just playing. I can tell when I first start whether it's going to be a
"good night" or not. Sometimes I can pull out of it and other times it's
great no matter what I do (without even trying).
Well, you've proved your first paragraph. I think it's one of the finest
solos I've ever heard. But I was around when it first came out (maybe you
were too) and getting overdriven tones was hard.
It's absolutely godawful- it's pretentious and stinky- no wonder Sykes got
canned!
>
> the worst soloist in a popular song? I think that's have to be a tie
> between CC DeVille of Poison (particularly "Unskinny Bop") and Mick Mars
> of Motley Crue on the early albums (particularly "Home Sweet Home").
Yup- those aren't so great either.
Yeah- there's nights when no matter what you play, it stinks and then other
nights where everything you play takes on a life of its own. If it happens
at a gig, I just take everything real easy and keep it simple.
>
>
I agree with what you are saying. Kiss weren't great musicians by any
means, but I still like their early albums. It's irrelevant to me if they
didn't know how to tune by harmonics. Most guys who play all that
sweep-picked arpeggio, whammy bar wanking, two-hand tapping blistering
bullshit can't do the so-called simple stuff. That's because it's all about
attitude, not precision.
beck rules
you need to listen to him more
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Best darn Ace Frehley style guitarist there is, I tell you what.
Dan
Double drop D tuning, so it's the open top string, but then he also bangs
away on the same note on the B string.
> altho you could play it that way, aint how he does it, from what i've
> seen a few times.
>
> Makes me want to
> >scratch his eyes out and choke him.
>
> heh. well, you aint the only one that hates it either. it always gets
> a mention as worst guitar solo. personally, i think its pretty kewl.
*I* like it. Wouldn't be "Cinnamon Girl" without it, right?
Dan
That's my feeling. A noodling or whanking solo would sound ridiculous.
Another poster pointed out that context (what fits the song) is everything.
And I agree.
When I finally stopped smoking dope (years ago, btw:) those leads and that tone
began to sound like a guy strangling a particularly pissed off cat.
I have to say they worked for that group during a certain time and ... space,
but those solos pretty much suck (to me) now.
Steve
> "I'm Easy" by The Commodores. Why? because it attempts to convey a
> feeling of laid-back soul, and fails miserably. It doesn't fit the
> atmosphere of the song. And the fast slide up the neck (right after
> the opening B.B. King lick) is the silliest thing I've ever heard in a
> hit song (even in the drug-saturated 70's). And then the guy has the
> nerve to slide back down the neck a few seconds later. To this day, it
> still cracks me up whenever I hear it. Faith No More did a great cover
> of this song, and ironically kept the solo intact. But they did it
> with a smirk. The original is amazing, because it feels like the
> guitarist really meant it.
>
> It's the guitar-solo equivalent of an Ed Wood movie. Unitentionally
> hilarious, but earnest.
>
> - Rich Johnson
> (waiting for hate-mail from Lionel Ritchie fans... if there are any
> left...)
...which demonstrates it's raw, artistic power! ;o)
Seriously, I have a lot of respect for guitarists like Neil Young, Pete Townshend,
and the late, great, Rory Gallagher, who can (or could) just slam open strings and
evoke more emotion than 1000 GIT wankers playing their whole-tone runs of
demi-semi-hemiquavers.
For me, the thousand or so all-time worst guitar solos remain my own.
The worst guitar I ever saw played before an arena crowd, though,
was Patti Smith, some time in the early 80's in Oakland, California.
She was a great songwriter and rock conceptualist, but she had no
understanding of the guitar whatsoever. She came on stage in Oakland
and announced that Bill Graham had asked her to cut back on her
guitar numbers, so she was going to do a lot more of them. It was
really stunningly bad. She didn't even know how to use a fretboard,
much less tune a guitar. She just modulated the unconrolled feedback
by pawing aimlessly at the instrument. Some people (e.g. Neil Young,
or of course Hendrix) might have been able to make that expressive
in some neo-primitive way. Not Patti. It was Pure Posturing(tm).
Simmons says Ace just wouldn't show up or he'd piss off early for card games
etc. the reason I thought Ace didn't play at all was the DVD they just
released recorded with the melbourne Symphony orchestra and a fake Ace, was
because most of the songs were from Destroyer and I thought there may have
been some legal problems with Kiss doing any songs which had Ace Frehley
work in it. Nonetheless, i thought destroyer was one of the best produced
records I've heard, and for it's day it was pretty polished.
:
:
:I remember reading in that
:>book about some producer they had in there once who taught them how to
tune
:>up using harmonics would you believe - might have been Ezrin. That's
really
:>sad.
:
:
:I guess. However. that was the 70s and.... I dunno. Things were sort
:of different then. It's not like Kiss was ever music by rock and roll
:virtuosos anyway. Guitar players that worship Eric Johnson and Joe
:Satriani often tend to hate Kiss. Point being, I guess i could believe
:they didnt know how to tune by harmonics. I stil llike the old
:records, irregardless. I just like anybody who can play the hell out
:of that hi octane ChuckBerry style rock and roll. Slam the hell out of
:them for everything else, those guys were really good at it. And
:usually, guys who slam that kind of music as being inferior or
:whatever, suck ass when they try to play it.
Hey my playing still sucks (well a little bit) but I still like frehley's
solos. "Let me go rock and roll", "Makin Love" Classic Ace Frehely. that
solo in "Making Love" always reminds me of the one from Communication
Breakdown.
I think people tend to shy away from saying Kiss were a good band, few
poeple like to admit they were ever kiss fans, the first song at age eleven
I really got into was R&R all nite. I think ACDC were doing jailbreak and
High Voltage around that time.I knew what a Dsus4 chord was before I'd ever
heard Whole Lotta Love or knew a twelve bar blues riff.
And of course there was always Johnny Cash.
:
:
:
:
:> Simmons really lays their lack of musicianship bare almost naively, but
:>not quite, as it was all a means to an end for him and Stanley Eisen.
:>$immon$ would market his mother.
:
:
:Simmons worships his mother. That is the one person or thing that he
:might actually NOT market. Anythign else is fair game. Lie to the very
:fans he has sworn to "serve", cheat, steal, it's all good, apparently.
:Disgusting. He's always been overt about all this I guess, but the
:last few years he's just been completely over the top. He'll never get
:another cent from me.
I lost interest in Kiss when their band name became a registered trade mark.
A good band to retro on, their rock super hero image and mystique etc was
pretty original in many respects but yeah it all got lost on the way to the
bank.
Shameless Simmons. Noo Yawk ... well friend of Darin's anyway !
Yeah, get everyone all worked up around here and then take it back.
You're no fun.
E^2
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JB is one of the few guitarists who can make an entire instrumental album
that can actually hold my attention through the whole thing. I can listen
to Blow By Blow, Wired and There And Back back-to-back-to-back and not get
bored. That is an amazing feat for a guitarist.
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Agreed! JB is one amazing cat and does not get half the recognition he
deserves.
I'm going to call my next band "The Registered Trademarks."
Dan
Make sure you register that name.
Steve
Can I join if I change my name to Pat Pending?
I'm a fellow citizen of Rochester... I used to know Lou Gramm when he was in a
group called Black Sheep. My band opened for his a couple of times back in the
70's. We've talked once or twice since then, I'd see him at church once in a
while. He had a bad bout with brain cancer several years ago. Nice guy, very
friendly to talk to.
Rob
I think "Pat Pending and the Registered Trademarks" would be a GREAT band
name!
Dan
Mmm...
Good call. I was a huge fan of "Electric" when it came out. Ian's
voice was just cool as hell. I wanted to track my own solos over them.
Of course I was in that more-notes-is-more-cool stage then.
-dave
www.themoodrings.com (green ring = sounds)
>
> I think "Pat Pending and the Registered Trademarks" would be a GREAT band
> name!
Hmm... I dunno. I've got this thing about band names containing "the" in
their title, For example, the idiots, the stupids, and worse yet, "the the".
I just can't do the "the" thing. It's so common.
:)
Oi... I like that.
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Cheers,
robert
Me too. Plus I think the Cinnamon Girl solo is one of the all-time greatest. Of course
it's a totally subjective issue, but to me a solo is there for the song & lots of players
get that backwards.
Who was that years ago talking about the "kitchen test" -- you know, that if you have a good
song you can sit in the kitchen & play it on an acoustic guitar & it'll still sound like a good
song? Otherwise you may have a cool arrangement, but no real song. That stuck with me...
dd
howldog wrote:
>
>
> I always liked Frehley's solos. LOL
>
> oh well.
yeah, to each his own...
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>>
>>
>> *I* like it. Wouldn't be "Cinnamon Girl" without it, right?
>>
>
>That's my feeling. A noodling or whanking solo would sound ridiculous.
>Another poster pointed out that context (what fits the song) is everything.
>And I agree.
The Cinnamon Girl is a "Native American". The music is supposed to
evoke her culture. Very simple, but easily overlooked by very simple
critics.
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I knew an originals group who went by "Mike Stand and The 58s" when they did
bar cover band gigs for rent money.
They're long gone and I'm pretty sure the name is up for grabs now if anyone
wants it.
They never registered it...
Steve
Yes- I'm familiar with some of his other work with Whitesnake and Blue
Murder. I never really liked Whitesnake, but Blue Murder was awesome. I
was surprised to hear that the solo on Here I Go Again was Sykes- it doesn't
sound like him and unlike his other work, isn't as stellar.
Guitar World says it was Vandenberg.
IIRC, I heard an early version that had Sykes' original solo on it, and it
was much better. Of course, I could be delusional.
http://www.guitarworld.com/tuneups/0503.whitesnake.html
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Thad
> Guitar World says it was Vandenberg.
> IIRC, I heard an early version that had Sykes' original solo on it, and it
> was much better. Of course, I could be delusional.
>
> http://www.guitarworld.com/tuneups/0503.whitesnake.html
that could be possible. I know that there was a special single
version of "Here I Go Again" done for radio in which Coverdale replaced
Neil Murray and Ainsley Dunbar's parts with Mark Andes and Denny
Carmassi (Heart's rhythm section at the time). What with the rampaging
ego of Mr. Covertune, it wouldn't be that odd if he replaced Sykes' part
with another guitar solo from another guitarist.
FWIW, I hear the album version of "Here I Go Again" on a local
station we play at work at least once a day - it's really not any better
or worse than most solos I hear....
Sorry, but I think that solo is the epitome of a bad solo. It starts out
okay, with an attempt at melody and then we get the cliches- fast two ocatve
run and then a horrendous bend to an equally horrendous bent/held note
vibrato that's not quite up to pitch. If you're going to finish a solo like
that, why bother. Strictly MHO, YMMV. I'd rather listen to a Flock Of
Seagulls and that's some painful listening. That solo is a quick pass kind
of thing, I'm sure.
>"g-mane" <gm...@youknowthedrill.sbcglobal.net> wrote...
>> "tai fu" <deadfis...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > While you're at it how about buying an affinity squire just so you can
>> > Kurt Corbain it...
>> >
>> blow off the headstock with a shotgun?
>Aw crap. New computer now has coffee on monitor and in keyboard.
That really was a scream.
I've been laughing for minutes, now.
Billy
Only if you make your first single "Boom Boom (Out Go The Rights).....
bobh
The entire 15 minute cat fuck of "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida" by Iron Butterfly