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Grip

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:39:05 PM2/10/12
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This is a new one on me....in my Brothers' studio he has a collection
of several old 3X15 Kustom Tuck & Roll cabs & heads.....none are
plugged up at the moment. Right next to that is his practice rig, 450
watt 4X10 combo with matching 1X15 cab underneatth. Well last
rehearsal we kept hearing what we thought were room rattles, although
the "rattles" were in tune with what he was playing IOW sounded like a
low volume separate amp with a fuzz stomper on. Calls me last night
and while practicing by himself, holds up the phone and as he plays I
hear it again.....the kicker is it's only coming out of one cab, the
others are dead quiet, remember I said NONE of these are cabled up to
ANYTHING. LOL, what on Earth could cause such a thing.....no drinking,
drugs, meds, or history of hearing voices involved! :-)

jtees4

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Feb 10, 2012, 7:46:31 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:39:05 -0800 (PST), Grip <mbe...@comcast.net>
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Well...definitely something loose and buzzing inside the cab, probably
"amplified" by the speaker cone. Or a ghost. If it plays well maybe
it's Jimi, you did say it used fuzz.

It's that Guy again...

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:10:54 PM2/10/12
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On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:39:05 -0800 (PST), Grip <mbe...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> LOL, what on Earth could cause such a thing.....no drinking,
>drugs, meds, or history of hearing voices involved! :-)


hehehehehe

It's the ghosts of some 'EARTH' Kustom copy pissed off at THAT cab..

:)

Yeah, it's a screw loose. Thoose 3-15's were known for it.

Does he have any with those ugly horns? He's a lucky bastard,
no mater what, I love those padded things. MANY a night on the
on the road, they made great beds to sleep on in the van. :)

Serious, those old Kustoms were alot of fun, and were some of
the best SS amps ever made. Still can be found real cheap.

JJTj




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Lord Valve

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Feb 10, 2012, 9:48:47 PM2/10/12
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The "haunted" cabinet has a speaker with a rubbing voice coil.

Speakers can be excited by external sources of
acoustic vibration; in fact, a speaker is a symmetrical
device: you can put AC in and get motion (sound) out,
and you can put motion (sound) in and get AC out, i.e.,
a speaker will also function as a microphone. Since
the cone in the defective speaker responds to the
compression/rarefaction produced in the atmosphere
by a nearby loud sound source, the (defective) voice
coil will rub the pole piece when the cone is vibrated.
The main clue here is that you said it sounds like "fuzz."
That points directly at a rubbing voice coil. I've seen
this many, many times; in fact, in multiple-speaker
combo amps, when someone blows a speaker they
usually disconnect it to finish the gig...but they find out
that they can still hear the VC rubbing anyway. You can
sometimes kill this effect (or lessen it considerably)
by shorting the terminals of the offending driver
together. You can test for it by removing the back
of the cabinet (Kustoms were rear-loaded back then,
and didn't have removable grill cloth) and having
your brother play while you stick your thumb against
each cone in turn; when you hit the bad one, the
"fuzz" will either stop or change radically in character.
You can also plug a speaker cord into the cab's jack
and throw a short across it with a pair of pliers, but
this might not work with three speakers in parallel.

Lord Valve
Expert (please obsess)


Jim

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Feb 10, 2012, 10:00:05 PM2/10/12
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On 2/10/2012 4:39 PM, Grip wrote:
> This is a new one on me....in my Brothers' studio he has a collection
> of several old 3X15 Kustom Tuck& Roll cabs& heads.....none are
> plugged up at the moment. Right next to that is his practice rig, 450
> watt 4X10 combo with matching 1X15 cab underneatth. Well last
> rehearsal we kept hearing what we thought were room rattles, although
> the "rattles" were in tune with what he was playing IOW sounded like a
> low volume separate amp with a fuzz stomper on. Calls me last night
> and while practicing by himself, holds up the phone and as he plays I
> hear it again.....the kicker is it's only coming out of one cab, the
> others are dead quiet, remember I said NONE of these are cabled up to
> ANYTHING. LOL, what on Earth could cause such a thing.....no drinking,
> drugs, meds, or history of hearing voices involved! :-)

If it starts playing a different song on its own, THEN it's haunted.
Ebay often has some pretty funny "haunted" and "possessed" listings, so
maybe he can make a couple of bucks.

A couple of weeks ago, I was playing and hit a certain note and a string
on my A/E hanging on the wall went NUTS. Must've hit a resonant
frequency. It was loud, sounded like the string was buzzing on the
frets. There's real energy in sound, and it can do funny things.

Claude V. Lucas

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Feb 10, 2012, 11:44:44 PM2/10/12
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In article <28db25cf-2baa-4f38...@w4g2000vbc.googlegroups.com>,
I had one of the old 3X15 Kustom Tuck & Roll cabs ( blue sparkle )
and it's pretty easy to drop stuff in the ports if you're clueless...

boardjunkie1

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Feb 11, 2012, 1:37:21 PM2/11/12
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^^^^^^^^^Winner winner chicken dinner.....^^^^^^^^^^^

FWIW, this can also be caused by unsecured wiring inside the cab
resting against a spkr cone. Seen that too....

Grip

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Feb 11, 2012, 2:15:06 PM2/11/12
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> resting against a spkr cone. Seen that too....- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

I used to recone speakers, so LV's explanation makes sense for
sure.....the only thing that threw me was.....if he would a phrase say
A \ \ \ \ G \ \ \ \ F \ \ \ \ G \ \ \ \ or what ever. the exact
notes were coming out of the cab in question. I will have to find
which individual speaker it is. Do a 9v battery test first. Jim.....if
it starts playing songs on it's own??? That thing is getting shipped
somewhere far away :-) It's cool stuff to have around though, not
expensive, stuff I used to dream of having when I first started
playing in the late 60's. So far between us we have black, cascade.
red, blue, silver....although the silver 3X15 is actually a PLUSH cab,
different pattern in the tuck 'n' roll and dig this.....it came
factory loaded with 3 X 15 EV SRO whitecaps....got that cab for $100.
last summer!

WB

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Feb 11, 2012, 5:30:18 PM2/11/12
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On 2/10/2012 6:39 PM, Grip wrote:
> This is a new one on me....in my Brothers' studio he has a collection
> of several old 3X15 Kustom Tuck&

I've always linked those tuck & rolls to the Beach Boys
era ... I don't know if they actually used them -- but they
definitely have the Calif. vibe to them.

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