MXR Phase 90 vs Phase 100
Dr. Zontar
There are specimens of each on my local craigslist, for the same
price. Both are newer, non-vintage models.
Other than having a depth knob, are there any other differences
between the 100 and 90?
I know there's an easy mod to make the newer Phase 90's sound
smoother. Is there one for the 100?
- Rich
LULU
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The MXR 100 is a 10 stage phaser. IIRC, the MXR 90 is a 4 stage
phaser. The MXR 90 is one-knob simplicity. Perhaps the MXR 100 is
more versatile. The 100 always sounds "thinner" and "drier" to me.
Are you going to use it with a bass, a guitar, or both? Players
always end up discussing the merits and shortcomings of "script" vs.
"block" models and even "pre-bankruptcy" units. If the price is
right, snap it up. Worst case scenario . . . it's an interesting
bright orange paper weight.
Lulu : )
MXR Phase 90 Demo ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8vJ1OvCqxM
MXR Phase 100 Demo ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AREuTrzrT3s
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Squier
there's a thread here about this:
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/archive/index.php/t-893651.html
my own personal experience is that I really like old skool 4 stage phasers.
I use an old Boss PH-1 and it is similar to MXR Phase 90.
The newer 8 and 10 and 12 stage phasers all sound like some artifact
sitting 'on top' of your sounds rather than musically blending in and
becoming a part of your tone like the older 4 stage phasers do.
Of course with some 10 or 12 stage phasers (depending on how
tweakable they are) you can create all sorts of
envelope sounds - and some are useful - but not really (imho)
what you would play for an entire song.
Anyways - I'll always go for the 4 stage phaser.
And if you put a distortion/tube screamer/fuzz etc in front
of the phaser in your pedal chain - you can get some really rippin
lead tones and then kick off the dist/fuzz/boost and back to nice
swirling 4 stage cleans.
that's my humble 2 cents.
Jim
The 90. If you do a google search, there's a simple "mod" that involves
clipping one resistor. My Friday afternoon brain won't remember what
it's supposed to accomplish, but I do remember I like mine with the
resistor clipped.
Dr. Zontar
> The 90. If you do a google search, there's a simple "mod" that involves
> clipping one resistor. My Friday afternoon brain won't remember what
> it's supposed to accomplish, but I do remember I like mine with the
> resistor clipped.
Yep. Clipping the R-something resistor is supposed to mellow out the
tone. I doubt if it makes the block logo Phase 90 sound exactly like
the vintage script model, but I've heard it's a big improvement.
- Rich
boardjunkie1
I have an old DOD grey box "Phasor 201" that I love. Liked it better
than the script logo Phase 90 I had.....made serious cash on ebay with
that one.....kept the DOD that I got for free......
Grinner
"Dr. Zontar" <drzo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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dunno dude, but i love the way the mxr90 sounds like leslie speakers when
you crank that one and only gateway to its guts.
Ghoul
It all depends on what sound your looking for. I really like this 2-
Stage Phaser.
http://proguitarshop.com/blog/mxr-csp105-75-vintage-phase-45-5258
Ghoul
Here's a interesting take on the 90.
http://proguitarshop.com/store/effects-phaser-pedals-c-602_11/mxr-evh90-phaser-pedal-p-619
Dr. Zontar
I've decided to stick with my MXR Commande Series Phaser for now. It's
a cheap piece of plastic. But it sounds enough like a Phase 90 for me.
When it breaks down, (which should've been years ago) I'll replace it
with either the script-logo reissue 90, or the Whirlwind Orange Box.
- Rich
TheChris
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Nothing, and I mean nothing, beats an old Small Stone. I've had both the
90, and 100, and both sound like mechanical effects...
I mean, if you like the idea of having an MXR box, I'd go for a 100 -
all of my favorite Phase sounds have used that (Lou Reed - Rock and Roll
Animal, The Runaways - Waitin' for the Night, etc.)
I used to think that being a huge EVH fan, I'd LOVE the 90, but I was
underwhelmed by it and the MXR Flanger. I was also shocked to see him
using the 5-knob MXR Chorus as opposed to my vintage 3-knob one :)
But, I'm telling you - an old Small Stone with a few mods to correct the
volume drop is like a B3!
TheChris
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That DOD is very suptle - almost like a Phase 45.
I kind of like my phases to sound like "keep yourself alive" by Queen -
though Idon't ever think I found out what he used...
I have a hot licks 'tape' of his, and he just says "I use some Boss
pedal"..
RichL
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Heh. I've got a Digitech Brian May pedal. A lot of the effects on it suck,
but the phaser setting does that "Keep Yourself Alive" thing perfectly!
But you can't have it ;-) It also does the two-echoplex effect that Brian
uses pretty nice.
If you're interested in what Brian really did on the recording, check this
out:
http://www.queenpedia.com/index.php?title=Keep_Yourself_Alive
From an interview with Brian in 1983 on BBC Radio One:
Interviewer: How did you process the rhythm strums on the version of 'Keep
Yourself Alive' on the Queen album?
Brian: That was real tape phasing. This was in the days when you took the
tape off the synch head, put it though a couple of other tape delays, and
then brought it back with the play head. There is no processing whatsoever
on the solo in that tune, as far as I remember. I used John Deacon's small
amplifier and the Vox AC-30 to do those little three-part chorus thing
behind, as well as the fingerboard pickup on the guitar. There is a bit more
tape phasing on the end of that track.
TheChris
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Interesting - I guess you can't get that in a pedal. And BTW, I meant
to type subtle :)