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Meat Plow

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Jan 22, 2011, 3:09:57 PM1/22/11
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Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two of
these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says. Anyone
seen one before? The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps
that have a small hole in the middle filled with some cheese cloth to
filter air I guess. The cabinet sounds great with my 120watt Peavey MX.
The guy wanted 100 but I gave him 75. The tolex is ok but this dude spray
painted the grill RED! To match the two Jackson speakers. That's ok I
can put new material on it and strip the pain off the aluminum sides. The
cab is the old style Peavey with two 2" strips of aluminum down the sides
of the grill. Probably late 70's early 80's.

--
Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse

jtees4

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Jan 22, 2011, 4:56:03 PM1/22/11
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I know nothing about the Jackson speakers, I am pretty sure I have
seen the aluminum dust cap ones in older Peavey amps, so they could be
original Peavey.
It could be these:
http://tinyurl.com/4qhqawt

jtees4

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Jan 22, 2011, 5:04:42 PM1/22/11
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On Sat, 22 Jan 2011 20:09:57 +0000 (UTC), Meat Plow
<mhy...@yahoo.com> wrote:


I think this is the first incarnation of the peavey Classic...so it
may go way back. If they are indeed Peavey speakers then they were
called RAM speakers (never heard of them, I thought I knew a lot about
Peavey).
http://www.peavey.com/assets/literature/manuals/classic.pdf

Meat Plow

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Jan 22, 2011, 5:14:10 PM1/22/11
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Ok so the bottom two may be original. I haven't removed any of them yet,
probably tomorrow. But the red cone that have Jackson embossed on a black
dust cap still baffle me. Haven't done much research and not much was
turning up either.

Meat Plow

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Jan 22, 2011, 5:29:25 PM1/22/11
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Here they are in a 412M cabinet. Mine's a 412S

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/po/100406/604r7/0403m1g_27.jpeg

Here is my cabinet, Peavey logo is missing and no silver dust covers
it has Scorpion speakers.

Another 412s with Scorpions and the correct logo:

http://img1.classistatic.com/cps/po/101130/474r9/98213ma_27.jpeg

I will know for sure what they are tomorrow. I'm going to wire the
cabinet for stereo to use with a stereo power ampo and the Peavey Tube
Fex.

http://elderly.com/images/vintage/130U/130U-9318_front.jpg

DeeAa

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Jan 22, 2011, 11:18:17 PM1/22/11
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On 22 tammi, 22:09, Meat Plow <mhyw...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two of
> these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says. Anyone
> seen one before? The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps

Jackson guitar cabs with red cones were pretty popular here in late
80's, came with Lee Jackson Perfect Connection and then Metaltronics
heads/rack systems.
I have a buddy who has a full stack of Metaltronics complete with red
cone Jackson cab; the grille is rather large-holed metal so it's easy
to see the cones.

They still have a rather cult following among the metal crowd...same
as Peavey Rockmaster there's always someone asking to buy a
Metaltronics head or a Rockmaster system.

Cheers,

Dee

LULU

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Jan 23, 2011, 12:44:35 PM1/23/11
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Not really sure . . . I haven't seen a Peavey cab in a while . . .
maybe they're Sheffield speakers . . . some Peavey cabs have "Red
Fangs" but that's a different story.

Lulu : )

Meat Plow

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Jan 23, 2011, 3:03:50 PM1/23/11
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I think the Fangs were only red on the frame and magnet structure. I was
going to work on this cabinet today but being a procrastinator I think
I'll wait until tomorrow :)

Meat Plow

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Jan 23, 2011, 3:15:28 PM1/23/11
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That's exactly what comes up if I google jackson guitar cabinet.
I've never seen one. Well the cabinet has two of those speakers on top,
and two Peavey on the bottom. I'm going to wire it stereo for use with a
Studiomaster 700D and Peavey Tube Fex preamp. I have my little 1x12
Peavey MX VT Series combo sitting on top the 412S. That 412S kicks ass
with the MX plugged into it and the BW 12" unplugged.

Jim

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Jan 23, 2011, 4:46:07 PM1/23/11
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On 1/22/2011 12:09 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
> Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two of
> these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says. Anyone
> seen one before?

Some mention here:
http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/27877-Jackson-Speaker-Cabinets

> The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps
> that have a small hole in the middle filled with some cheese cloth to
> filter air I guess.

Common 70's design, I had CTS 12's with heavy square magnets that used
that VC cover. I think Eminence also used it. Rather shiny aluminum,
center vent hole, black cloth under the hole.

Meat Plow

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Jan 23, 2011, 6:12:01 PM1/23/11
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On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:46:07 -0800, Jim wrote:

> On 1/22/2011 12:09 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
>> Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two
>> of these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says.
>> Anyone seen one before?
>
> Some mention here:
> http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/27877-Jackson-Speaker-Cabinets

Yeah I read that a bit when I first googled red cone jackson speaker.


>> The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps that have a small
>> hole in the middle filled with some cheese cloth to filter air I guess.
>
> Common 70's design, I had CTS 12's with heavy square magnets that used
> that VC cover. I think Eminence also used it. Rather shiny aluminum,
> center vent hole, black cloth under the hole.

VC? Vented cover/cone? I'm going to get off my lazy ass tomorrow and pull
one of each out and rewire the cabinet for stereo. I know what the
Jacksons are now but still curious who actually makes them. The VC
speakers I have no idea. Yet.


> > The cabinet sounds great with my 120watt Peavey MX.
>> The guy wanted 100 but I gave him 75. The tolex is ok but this dude
>> spray painted the grill RED! To match the two Jackson speakers. That's
>> ok I can put new material on it and strip the pain off the aluminum
>> sides. The cab is the old style Peavey with two 2" strips of aluminum
>> down the sides of the grill. Probably late 70's early 80's.

--

LULU

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Jan 23, 2011, 6:38:57 PM1/23/11
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> Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse- Hide quoted text -
>
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On second thought, I thnk that the red cone Jacksons might have been
made by Eminence. Take a look at this photo. Do these speakers look
something like what you have? Hell, there are several companies that
manufacture speakers with red cones these days. Most are for
automotive sound applications.

Good Luck,
Lulu : )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v91/Toejam/jackson2x12s-1.jpg?t=1231551489

Meat Plow

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Jan 23, 2011, 7:26:02 PM1/23/11
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Yep that sure looks like them. Although the white paint in the embossed
Jackson logo on the dust cap has long vaporized :)

I promise I will tear into it tomorrow. Gunna be around 5 below zero
tomorrow morning so I ain't going to line up any work that takes me
outside. I need to fix the grill and rewire to stereo anyway.

Thanks as always for your contributions.

Jim

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Jan 24, 2011, 1:07:40 PM1/24/11
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On 1/23/2011 3:12 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:46:07 -0800, Jim wrote:
>
>> On 1/22/2011 12:09 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
>>> Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two
>>> of these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says.
>>> Anyone seen one before?
>>
>> Some mention here:
>> http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/27877-Jackson-Speaker-Cabinets
>
> Yeah I read that a bit when I first googled red cone jackson speaker.
>
>>> The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps that have a small
>>> hole in the middle filled with some cheese cloth to filter air I guess.
>>
>> Common 70's design, I had CTS 12's with heavy square magnets that used
>> that VC cover. I think Eminence also used it. Rather shiny aluminum,
>> center vent hole, black cloth under the hole.
>
> VC? Vented cover/cone?

Also called voice coil covers.

> I'm going to get off my lazy ass tomorrow and pull
> one of each out and rewire the cabinet for stereo. I know what the
> Jacksons are now but still curious who actually makes them. The VC
> speakers I have no idea. Yet.

You probably already know the manufacturer codes, but here's one link:
http://www.planet10-hifi.com/EIA-SpeakerCodes.html

Meat Plow

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Jan 24, 2011, 4:31:04 PM1/24/11
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2011 10:07:40 -0800, Jim wrote:

> On 1/23/2011 3:12 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 13:46:07 -0800, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/22/2011 12:09 PM, Meat Plow wrote:
>>>> Anyone ever seen these? I bought another Peavey 412S cab that has two
>>>> of these in it. Haven't taken one out to see what the label says.
>>>> Anyone seen one before?
>>>
>>> Some mention here:
>>> http://www.jcfonline.com/threads/27877-Jackson-Speaker-Cabinets
>>
>> Yeah I read that a bit when I first googled red cone jackson speaker.
>>
>>>> The cab also has two speakers with aluminum dust caps that have a
>>>> small hole in the middle filled with some cheese cloth to filter air
>>>> I guess.
>>>
>>> Common 70's design, I had CTS 12's with heavy square magnets that used
>>> that VC cover. I think Eminence also used it. Rather shiny aluminum,
>>> center vent hole, black cloth under the hole.
>>
>> VC? Vented cover/cone?
>
> Also called voice coil covers.
>
>> I'm going to get off my lazy ass tomorrow and pull one of each out and
>> rewire the cabinet for stereo. I know what the Jacksons are now but
>> still curious who actually makes them. The VC speakers I have no idea.
>> Yet.
>
> You probably already know the manufacturer codes, but here's one link:
> http://www.planet10-hifi.com/EIA-SpeakerCodes.html

Well I didn't get off my lazy ass today except to do some work in the
morning up until about 3. Gotta pay the bills and it's getting close to
that time. I did try the cabinet with my Studiomaster 700D bridged mono
and the PV Tube Fex. Didn't drive it quite hard enough on some patches
so I'll have to increase the overall gain of the Tube Fex and readjust
some patches I use all the time. Sounded as good as a tube amp. The Tube
Fex reproduces the breakup pretty damn good, it should with 2 12AX7's
inside.

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