10 Reasons NOT to buy a Parker Guitar
Bonger777
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> #1 You may never play another guitar again
>
> #2 You will want to sell your acoustic / electric
>
> #3 You will play songs live that you could not play before
>
> #4 Your back may feel better after a show
>
> #5 Your playing may improve
>
> #6 You may never look at Fender and Gibson the same
>
> #7 You may enjoy playing guitar again
>
> #8 You will kick yourself for not buying one years ago
>
> #9 Your closed mind may just open a little
>
> #10 You might find out that Ken Parker has invented one of the best
guitars on
> the market today, The Fly
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Kyron Martell
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Mark
>#1 You may never play another guitar again
Because your wife will kill you because you spent the rent money.
>#2 You will want to sell your acoustic / electric
To pay the gas bill and the power bill and buy groceries.
>#3 You will play songs live that you could not play before>
But soon after you'll get kicked out of the band, because you're
homeless and the bass player is tired of having you sleep on his
couch.
>#4 Your back may feel better after a show
on the streetcorner, playing through a toy amp, with your guitar case
in front of you hoping for change.
>#5 Your playing may improve
because you're homeless and broke, and all you can do is play your
guitar, instead of doing things like sleeping and eating.
>
>#6 You may never look at Fender and Gibson the same
You will say to yourself, "You know, if I had bought something less
expensive, I probably wouldn't have gotten thrown out of my house by
my wife."
>#7 You may enjoy playing guitar again
because it's the only thing you have left to enjoy at that point.
>
>#8 You will kick yourself for not buying one years ago
And your wife will kick you out of the house for spending that much
money without anything "real" to show for it.
Please give me a break. You must be a dealer who can't unload these
things. I have played Parkers and I was not impressed. The piezo
pickup was quacky and harsh and sounded NOTHING like an acoustic
guitar. The electric sounds were mediocre at best, and at worst
sterile and brittle. The much vaunted "returns in tune" tremolo
didn't return in tune. Of course it was "easy to play," they have it
strung up with .008's for the high E from the factory.
Personally I think the Parker belongs with the other leftover
freakshow things created for people with bad GAS (guitar acquisition
syndrome), like the Stepp Guitar, the Bond Guitar, the SynthAxe, the
GuitOrgan, the Gittler Guitar, and the aluminum neck Kramers.
Kensh...@webtv.net
> #1 You may never play another guitar again
> play before
> the same
> years ago
> #10 You might find out that Ken Parker has
> invented one of the best guitars on the market
> today, The Fly
I think the Fly's are neat but I'll throw my $.02 in..
#11- You played one, hated the tone, didn't like the neck, completely
knocked it out of tune with the tremolo bar, and couldn't see spending
$2k on it...
IMHO they're very nice, if they suit your style, but are definately
not for everyone....
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Kenshin
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John Stanley
Kyron Martell <kmm...@is7.nyu.edu> wrote in message
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> 11. Dave Navarro plays one.
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>
He plays one of everything.
Bob Finn
the bridge" and It didn't sound all that different from the Paul . . . he
was also using it for the acoustic sound --> which was nice too.
Kyron Martell wrote in message ...
Boogie Hiss
Mark wrote in message <37142255....@news.msy.bellsouth.net>...
>
>Please give me a break. You must be a dealer who can't unload these
>things. I have played Parkers and I was not impressed.
Neither was I. The neck felt like plastic.
The piezo pickup was quacky and harsh and sounded NOTHING like an acoustic
>guitar. The electric sounds were mediocre at best, and at worst
>sterile and brittle. The much vaunted "returns in tune" tremolo
>didn't return in tune. Of course it was "easy to play," they have it
>strung up with .008's for the high E from the factory.
>
>Personally I think the Parker belongs with the other leftover
>freakshow things created for people with bad GAS (guitar acquisition
>syndrome), like the Stepp Guitar, the Bond Guitar, the SynthAxe, the
>GuitOrgan, the Gittler Guitar, and the aluminum neck Kramers.
Don't forget that twisted-neck thing that AGI-Lace has YET to bring to
market.
Boogie Hiss
Kyron Martell wrote in message ...
>11. Dave Navarro plays one.
Scott Henderson, Adrien Bellew, Robbin Ford, Eddie Van Halen, Ritchie
Blackmore, Tommy Iommi, Angus Young, Jimmy Page, Larry Carlton, Carlos
Santana, John McGlaughlin, Jeff Beck, Robert Cray, Eric Clapton, BB King,
and most others DON"T play Parkers.
(Joe Walsh will play, and wear, ANYTHING wierd).
Ellery311
Artsy-fartsy and way to hip for a rock-and-roller.
Samuel Bethune
Ellery311 wrote in message <19990414120214...@ng63.aol.com>...
>Is it just me, or are Parkers to the 90's what Steinbergers were to the
80's.
>Artsy-fartsy and way to hip for a rock-and-roller.
Interestingly enough, the guy who started this thread was at one time a huge
Steinberger fan. Then he became a huge PRS fan. He's also infamous for
talking out of his ass and flaming other guitar makers, especially Gibson.
His credibility is about zero and I wouldn't pay attention to a damned thing
he says.
Stephane Sonier
They were in the 'Godin' guitar shop in Quebec, Canada (Godin are excellent
quality guitars). The camera turned to one machine and the guitar the guy had
in his hands had the same body design as a Parker guitar. Correct me if I'm
wrong here, but I don't think Parker manufactures their own guitar. But if they
are manufactured in the 'Godin' shop, the quality of those guitar are excellent
so I assume the Parkers would be of a very good quality as well.
Stephane S.
John Stanley
Bob Finn <nos...@nospam.net> wrote in message news:3714...@news1.jps.net...
> Dave played a Strat and a Les Paul . . . and pulled out the Fly for "under
> the bridge" and It didn't sound all that different from the Paul . . . he
> was also using it for the acoustic sound --> which was nice too.
>
> >11. Dave Navarro plays one.
>
>
>
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Richard Dickerson
Interestingly enough, the guy who started this thread was at one time a
huge Steinberger fan. Then he became a huge PRS fan. He's also infamous
for talking out of his ass and flaming other guitar makers, especially
Gibson. His credibility is about zero and I wouldn't pay attention to a
damned thing he says.
and Rich says...He's also arrogant, presumptuous and rude. After I
responded to a previous posting of his about Parker, he e-mailed me his
response. I wrote and asked him to reply in the group instead of e-mail,
and he e-mailed me AGAIN, rudely insinuating that I don't have a Parker
because I "can't afford one, huh".
There's one for sale here (in a PAWN SHOP, no
less!) and I thought it was funny. This high dollar guitar that makes
all others obsolete is sitting in a pawn shop, because the owner
couldn't sell it on the open market. Meanwhile that same shop can't keep
a Les Paul or Strat on the shelf. Those guitars sell right away, and
this Parker, the "be all/end all" guitar sits like a wallflower at a
high school dance! I don't care how much it costs, I ain't interested.
Salivating over a guitar is something we're all familiar with, but to
insult everyone who doesn't drool over the same thing is ridiculous!
Megamanic
Dunno about the Parker being made by Godin thing, but they are excellent
quality guitars. I think a lot of people that can't afford them think it's
fashionable to knock them.
Cheers and Stuff,
StevieSlackJawedPRSToadyKen
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freakshow things created for people with bad GAS (guitar acquisition
syndrome), like the Stepp Guitar, the Bond Guitar, the SynthAxe, the
GuitOrgan, the Gittler Guitar, and the aluminum neck Kramers.
Gee sounds like someone who bought a lot of bad guitars in the past !
Maybe if you knew something about guitars..........
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knocked it out of tune with the tremolo bar, and couldn't see spending
$2k on it...
$2,000 ? where do you shop ? $1,199 is more like it
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responded to a previous posting of his about Parker, he e-mailed me his
response. I wrote and asked him to reply in the group instead of e-mail,
and he e-mailed me AGAIN, rudely insinuating that I don't have a Parker
because I "can't afford one, huh"
You are still stupid ! go buy the Pawn shop one, IF you have the money !
carl
I'm not saying that to knock the guitar, I like the expensive Parkers but
the less expensive ones are just lame. What I'm saying is that because a
person plays a guitar doesn't make it a reason to go and buy one. I know
that Kerry King plays a B.C. Rich V, but I ain't goin to buy one because of
it. By the way have any of guys seen Jeff Hanneman's ESP Signature Strat,
they're bad ass. But I'm not going to buy it because he plays one. Because
you know what? He also plays a Jackson strat, and a B.C. Rich. That's just
to much for me.
Carl
Kyron Martell wrote in message ...
>11. Dave Navarro plays one.
>
>
>TubeStore <tube...@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:19990413225302...@ng-fu1.aol.com...
>> #1 You may never play another guitar again
>>
>> #2 You will want to sell your acoustic / electric
>>
>> #3 You will play songs live that you could not play before
>>
>> #4 Your back may feel better after a show
>>
>> #5 Your playing may improve
>>
>> #6 You may never look at Fender and Gibson the same
>>
>> #7 You may enjoy playing guitar again
>>
>> #8 You will kick yourself for not buying one years ago
>>
Guitcrazee
I have a beyond bad back and almost had to quit playing bass because of it.
The Bass I don't think was ever successfully produced but I was in the
Guitar Center in '96 and played a Fly guitar. That was the biggest "finally
getting to play one" let down of my life. I even hated how light it felt
because it didn't feel like a had a guitar on. Actually guitars don't hurt
my back that much, but this thing felt like a sheet of paper not something I
feel inspired to breath fire with. To use the clique', I felt naked. I hated
the neck the most although it did have great fret's and well done. It was
plugged into a Soldano, I remember not being able to get a sound I liked,
and I did give it a fair amount of time because the place was almost empty
and nobody else wanted to play it. In closing;1). Parker is not and will
never be a Revolution, it was a good idea that yielded mediocre results.2).
You can't call somebody close minded because they've tried something and
didn't like it, that's like saying someone is stupid because they don't like
your favorite flavor of ice cream.Close minded is when you blow off
something with out giving it a chance. 3). Yea sure, those player's may use
one, but have any of them taken the Fly as their main
'can't-live-with-out-it axe?' I don't think so and that's the bottom line in
terms of letting Rock stars to make your choices for you. You can put me in
the Parker hater category! oh yea, why did I say I "almost" had to quit the
Bass? Because I bought a CARVIN Bunny Brunel bass and it is the most well
balanced bass on earth. you can hang if from your finger by the horn strap
button and it sits at the perfect playing angle, no neck diving.
Boogie Hiss wrote in message <#QsiJ#mh#GA.247@upnetnews05>...
>
>Kyron Martell wrote in message ...
>>11. Dave Navarro plays one.
>
Samuel Bethune
>Dunno about the Parker being made by Godin thing, but they are excellent
>quality guitars. I think a lot of people that can't afford them think it's
>fashionable to knock them.
>
I agree that they're good guitars and I won't knock 'em. It's those who own
'em and who knock what us poor folks who can't afford 'em play that pisses
me off.
Zorro
Guitcrazee wrote in message ...
>I was all excited when I read the Steve Swallow Fly Bass prototype testing.
>I have a beyond bad back and almost had to quit playing bass because of it.
I know just the cure for you. I know a bass player who adapted a weight
lifting belt to be a bass guitar "belt" which he wears around his waist, not
over the shoulder. I've never really checked to see the exact details of
how he did it or where/how the 'belt' attaches to the bass. Next time I'm
over in Florida I'll go see him and ask. Of course, you may have it figured
out by then.
TubeStore
houses. No one tool will do the job, not a 1959 Les Paul or a 1962 Strat. The
Parker Fly is a guitar no toolbox can be without.
Gibson has done very little in the 40 years since the Les Paul, same with
Fender. Other companys like Hamer, Jackson and Peavey just copy old designs.
Hamer has made some new things like the Duo Sonic, 12 string bass and others,
but most of the line is based on Gibson and Fender products.
Few guitars makers have done something different, Ned Steinberger invented the
only Tremlo that changes key and stays in tune along with changing how guitars
are made.
Ken Parker has made a guitar like no other.
PRS gave Gibson a kick in the ass, PRS will admit that theer guitars are based
on Gibson models, but they improved on the quality of the guitar and added some
nice features that you can not get on a Gibson.
If you want to live in the past, thats fine. Use the hand tools of yesterday
while the others use the power tools of today.
J. C. Cuda
>#1 You may never play another guitar again
>
>#2 You will want to sell your acoustic / electric
>
>#3 You will play songs live that you could not play before
>
>#4 Your back may feel better after a show
>
>#5 Your playing may improve
>
>#6 You may never look at Fender and Gibson the same
>
>#7 You may enjoy playing guitar again
>
>#8 You will kick yourself for not buying one years ago
>
>#9 Your closed mind may just open a little
>
>#10 You might find out that Ken Parker has invented one of the best guitars on
>the market today, The Fly
Bravo
JC
Mark
<NoSoli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Don't forget that twisted-neck thing that AGI-Lace has YET to bring to
>market.
Yeah, doesn't that kinda look like a Jazzmaster that's been melted, or
what?
ModrnSound
>
>Artsy-fartsy and way to hip for a rock-and-roller.
Hip? There is absolutely nothing " hip" about those guitars. They might be the
best sounding guitars in the world, but they sure look like a geek's instrument
to me.
modrnsound/artpopmod
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to me.
And what do you think of those funny Fender guitars ? Those Deans are nice,
Washburn and Daneectro sure look normal.
Wolfgang
You must be talking about the Nitefly which is a far cry from the real
deal.
The Nitefly was actually produced as an afterthought when Parker's
foreign distributor, Korg demanded a cheaper version they could sell all
over the world. Reluctantly Parker produced the Nitefly. Reluctantly
because he knew the bolt on design was a far cry from the models he had
been making.
Personally I've owned both the full Fly and the Nitefly, there's no
comparison between the 2. The Fly had much better resonance, truer
acoustic tones and good electric tones while the Nitefly sounded like a
cheap Ovation combined with a cheap strat. Live, I just couldn't justify
torturing an audience with the Nitefly's acoustic tones while my Takemine
sat in it's case.
Both just seemed like novelty guitars after a few weeks and I was back
to my old LesPaul and my Takemine or Gibson for acoustic work. Shipped
them both home and traded them in as soon as the tour finished.
Wolfgang
je...@nospamop.net
>#1 You may never play another guitar again
Is there uneven fretwork that will cut off your fingers?
>#2 You will want to sell your acoustic / electric
HAH - I don't *have* one.
>#3 You will play songs live that you could not play before
Why?
>#4 Your back may feel better after a show
I'll let you know after I get done putting away the Marshall.
>#5 Your playing may improve
Funny, I never owned a guitar that could make me play better.
Does it come with lessons?
>#6 You may never look at Fender and Gibson the same
Will this make me like Gibsons?
>#7 You may enjoy playing guitar again
I never stopped.
>#8 You will kick yourself for not buying one years ago
I couldn't then and I can't now... I'm left-handed.
>#9 Your closed mind may just open a little
Just because I tried something and it sucks doesn't mean I'm
closed-minded.
>#10 You might find out that Ken Parker has invented one of the best guitars on
>the market today, The Fly
Gee, when I picked it up (albeit backwards) it felt cold and lifeless.
I didn't like the neck or the guitar in general.
Btw, how much do you make per sale on these?
Samuel Bethune
je...@NOSPAMop.net wrote in message <3714d0ec....@news.op.net>...
of BS on this newsgroup about a year ago talking trash about Gibsons while
playing up PRS. It's pretty apparent that this guy likes to brag. Maybe
he's insecure. He's definitely immature.
TubeStore
You must be talking about the Nitefly which is a far cry from the real
deal.
The Nitefly was actually produced as an afterthought when Parker's
foreign distributor, Korg demanded a cheaper version they could sell all
over the world.
***** Guitar Center, a Fly not a Nite fly****
They even had a hard tail Fly at $899 NEW !
Both just seemed like novelty guitars after a few weeks and I was back
to my old LesPaul and my Takemine or Gibson for acoustic work. Shipped
them both home and traded them in as soon as the tour finished.
***** You miss the point, one guitar can do the acoustic and electric, your
Les paul can not, your Tak can not either*****
I will look for you on tour this summer, by the way, whats your band ?
Megamanic
>foreign distributor, Korg demanded a cheaper version they could sell all
>because he knew the bolt on design was a far cry from the models he had
>been making.
I had heard the first NiteFly was built by Parker for Reeves Gabrels (David
Bowie Band) because Reeves needed a guitar body that could accomodate a MIDI
pickup, and Parker hadn't developed the MidiFly yet.
Parker's distributor is Korg everywhere, not just outside of the US.
Cheers and Stuff,
StevieSlackJawedPRSToadyKen
John Sessoms
It's not really a question of being able to afford 'em. If I
wanted one bad enough, I could find a way to get one. I'm
just not interested.
Wolfgang
> I will look for you on tour this summer, by the way, whats your band ?
You imply you have to be famous to be on tour.
The name of the band was Blindside and we crossed Canada and parts of the US
more times than I'd like to remember. We weren't looking to be the next big
thing, it was all just for fun and we succeeded there. Lots of alcohol, lots of
parties, lots of women and lots of money. Someday I'm going to sit down and
write a book about the insane things that happened before I loose anymore brain
cells.
Take a look in your newspaper and see who's playing in town this weekend,
odds are if you've never heard of them they're from some other town. Then think
about how many shit towns there are with a band every weekend. Then start
thinking about large towns, how many clubs there are there and how many bands
play there. You get the idea, there are a million bands out on tour across North
America. Some nights we'd stop in a truck stop 3 in the morning and it'd be full
of bands from everywhere.
To think only famous people tour is the most juvenile things anyone has ever
eluded to in this newsgroup in the 4 years I've been here.
Wolfgang
monkey
>
> but they sure look like a geek's instrument
> to me.
>
You got something against geeks?
ImABigNerd
>homeless and the bass player is tired of having you sleep on his
>couch.
dude, you're my hero. that was one of the funniest damn things i have ever
read! much respect, i didn't have much to say about the Parkers either when i
played one.
TubeStore
that not many people come to see you right ? Just because your in a band does
not have anything to do with this posting about Parker guitars. Lets hear what
you dont like about the guitar insted of your life story.
I think that your opinion may be have something to do with one of your
satements...
X-Factor
this nugget of wisdom :
>#10 You might find out that Ken Parker has invented one of the best guitars on
>the market today, The Fly
Personally, I prefer the Godin line of guitars as the "all-in-one"
package. They feel better, sound better, and can do anything a Fly can
do.
ljstarin
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Megamanic
I'm a big fan of their stylized Teles- still don't know why I haven't bought
one of those yet...
Cheers and Stuff,
StevieSlackJawedPRSToadyKen
ljstarin
it was meant to be. Loud music, fast women and parties. There are a lot of
bands that foot the bill when you are just looking for a night out. No need
to spend $35 on a ticket, only to be dissappointed because some big name act
isn't up to the level of their album music. A lot of "no name" bands can
rock as well or better than many famous ones. It takes a massive ego to
want to be a rock star. You have to think that your shit smells like roses.
Very few people, who are excellent players, do enough hard drugs and alcohol
to believe that about themselves. And, if they did enough drugs and
alcohol, they would only end up good like Aerosmith. Wolf's band has fun,
they party, they get laid. People have a good time out at their shows.
What more could you ask for. Why should he play a gimmick? He has no
reason to play, anything but, what works best for him and his music. He
doesn't hype himself with a lot of propaganda and crap. I can hear it on my
radio now," Don't miss Blindside at the Whiskey a Go Go, they will be using
the new Parker guitars and other special effects! Watch one guitar do it
all! Be amazed at the versatility of this one instrument." Not. You'd
have to pay me good money, and give me the guitar, to play those guitars.
And I would have to write songs specifically for that guitar. And then
after the comedy act, I would give it to an audience member, and play some
real music on a real guitar, like a Gibson, a Fender or an Ibanez or
Jackson. (Or a Guild or a Martin or a Yari or a Taylor or a.....)
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X-Factor
shared this nugget of wisdom :
>Yeah, Godins are great, and they look really good too.
>X-Factor <$ickma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
><3717ba91...@news.axess.com>...
>>
>>Personally, I prefer the Godin line of guitars as the "all-in-one"
>>package. They feel better, sound better, and can do anything a Fly can
>>do.
There was a Godin LGX-S/A set up at a local music shop that had it
running though a Roland VG-8, as well as a Crate acoustic combo (which
was a/b'd with a Fender Bassman re-issue). The sounds you can get are
mind blowing. It's almost enough to make you a one man (or woman) band
if you know what you're doing.
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Guitar Center and Mars is selling the Nitefly for $489 with gig bag and cable.
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have to pay me good money, and give me the guitar, to play those guitars.
And I would have to write songs specifically for that guitar. And then
after the comedy act, I would give it to an audience member, and play some
real music on a real guitar, like a Gibson, a Fender or an Ibanez or
Jackson. (Or a Guild or a Martin or a Yari or a Taylor or a.....)
I think thats says it, will play anything if you get one for free and get
paid for it. So much for your credibility ! So the only " Real " guitars are
Fender, Gibson.... ? So anyone who gets an idea should just forget about it ?
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A Gimmick ? The Hamer Duo tone a gimmick? What is your point ? anything made
after 1962 is a gimmick ? What about guitars like the Ovation Viper ?
To many people rock and roll is what
it was meant to be. Loud music, fast women and parties
*********************************************
Fast women = a trip to the doctors !
Parties = drinking and driving
Loud music = " what did he say ? "
Megamanic
Just under $1K.
>Guitar Center and Mars is selling the Nitefly for $489 with gig bag and
>cable.
Better check and see what version NiteFly that is. (I like the guitar, just
trying to help.) If it's the NFV1 or NFV2, you won't get the "NiteMix"
circuitry that will sense a mono or stereo instrument cable, and output
accordingly. In plain English, that means you don't have to buy a $300 pedal
to output piezo and mag simultaneously in mono.
The NFV1 and NFV2 are worth all of about $489 now, as they're two year old
stock. Look into the NFV3 and NFV4 for current instruments, which price
competitively with the Godins.
One key difference with the Godin is you can get a guitar that does piezo, mag,
and synth pickup output for under $1K.
Cheers and Stuff,
StevieSlackJawedPRSToadyKen
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setup and all the right amps. The guy knew how to play and knew how to use the
Parker. I heard the Parker before I ever seen it. I heard this great acoustic
sound, I thought it was a demo of a new Ovation or some new acoustic amp. Then
I heard a great overdrive sound, then the mix of the 2. I thought it was 2 guys
playing, when i made it to the Parker booth I was amazed. I was sold on the
guitar based on the sound and the possibilities, not the look.
Emohawk
Aparrently in the pathetic little world he lives in, no one's opinion is
valuable - unless it's his...
Anyway, here's my opinion (well, probably several).
First, I played a Fly recently in Toronto. I didn't like it. Now it had
nothing to do with playability, because it was a breeze to play. BUT, I
just didn't like the feel of the thing. I'm a pretty heavy player, and I
felt like I'd bust the shit out of the thing if I started to cut loose on
it. It didn't do much for me tone-wise either, but that's personal taste
more than anything. I didn't play around wiht the peizo pickups much.
Tried it, didn't like it. If I want an acoustic sound, I'll pick up an
acoustic. It's a butt ugly guitar to boot. All it all up and you have a
no-sale from me.
I have also had the pleasure of playing a couple of PRS models, and I have
to say I love them. Playability, build quality, tone, everything you could
want. Beautiful instruments. I'd buy one in a minute if I thought I needed
another guitar. I don't. One day I'll probably fall for one and buy it,
but for now, I don't feel that need.
I haven't tried a Steinberger, so no opinion there.
One thing I do find offensive is the comparison of a guitar to a tool like a
wrench or a hammer. Obviously this guy is no player, and if he is, there's
no heart & soul in his playing. You don't just play a guitar. You interact
with it. It becomes a part of you. I liken it more to a relationship.
Some relationships just don't feel right, and you let them go. Others do
feel right, and parting with them is pure torture. That doesn't mean it's
not right for someone else - just not for you.
Now, all that being said, I just want to say I'm not knocking Parker or any
other guitar maker. There's a guitar out there for everybody, and if you
find a Parker feels right for you, then by all means, get one. If a $100
Peavey Predator feels right for you, get one. It's just personal taste.
Everyone has an opinion. Just becausze it's not yours, that doesn't mean
it's wrong...just not yours.
Ken Parker has made a guitar like no other? Structurally perhaps, yes. But
those old 10-string B.C. Rich things fell into that category also. Along
with the aluminum neck Kramers as mentioned in another post. But, there's
nothing really all that innovative in there. An alternate construction
material? Peizo pickups to simulate an acoustic (which is something that
just doesn't work well if you ask me - in any guitar)? Different wiring?
All been done, and all being done by other manufacturers. All Parker has
done is create a multi-tool. It can do a number of things, but none of them
particularly well. It's the Swiss Army knife of guitars. If I was lost in
the woods and had to record an album, I might appreciate a Parker more. I
just can't see that happening though...
Speaking of opinions, here's one for you. You're an arrogant pinhead.
And, though it's none of your business, I could go out and buy a Parker
today if I wanted one, and I wouldn't feel it in the wallet too much either.
There's a long list of stuff that's on my list way before I'll own a guitar
I'll never play...
I ask you this...if someone came to your shop (assuming you have a shop) and
said "I don't like the Parker", would you tell him he just doesn't like it
because he can't afford one? If you treat potential customers the same way
you react to people on this newsgroup, then you're even more stupid than you
assume everyone else in the world is...
Just my opinion. If you can't deal with that, feel free to fuck off.
Darrin.
TubeStore wrote in message <19990414225236...@ng32.aol.com>...
>Guitars are the tool of the trade, like someone who works on cars or builds
>houses. No one tool will do the job, not a 1959 Les Paul or a 1962 Strat.
The
>Parker Fly is a guitar no toolbox can be without.
>
>Gibson has done very little in the 40 years since the Les Paul, same with
>Fender. Other companys like Hamer, Jackson and Peavey just copy old
designs.
>Hamer has made some new things like the Duo Sonic, 12 string bass and
others,
>but most of the line is based on Gibson and Fender products.
>
>Few guitars makers have done something different, Ned Steinberger invented
the
>only Tremlo that changes key and stays in tune along with changing how
guitars
>are made.
>
>Ken Parker has made a guitar like no other.
>
>PRS gave Gibson a kick in the ass, PRS will admit that theer guitars are
based
>on Gibson models, but they improved on the quality of the guitar and added
some
>nice features that you can not get on a Gibson.
>
>If you want to live in the past, thats fine. Use the hand tools of
yesterday
>while the others use the power tools of today.
TubeStore
no heart & soul in his playing
Wrong Mr. !
TubeStore
I am not a dealer, store or a pawn shop. Just a guitar player.
TubeStore
TubeStore
acoustic
You cant do that in the middle of a song as easy as a flip of the switch with
the Parker. The Parker is not ment to replace a Martin, it is a guitar for
performing live. Just like the Hamer Duo Tone, Ovation Viper and others. If you
are in a studio use a Martin for the acoustic parts, but live it is hard to do.
The Nitefly at $489 is a great deal. How can you argue that ?
X-Factor
this nugget of wisdom :
>Whats the price of the Godin ?
>
>Guitar Center and Mars is selling the Nitefly for $489 with gig bag and cable.
Along with inferior sound, feel, playability, and construction. I've
played both. I prefer the Godin, end of story.
Shaun & Stacie
look at the nite fly,get a fly then never buy another guitar.you wont put it
down. unless you own 1 what is it that you really know.
Mark <kyno...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:37156611....@news.msy.bellsouth.net...
> On Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:03:03 -0500, "Boogie Hiss"
> <NoSoli...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >Don't forget that twisted-neck thing that AGI-Lace has YET to bring to
> >market.
>
> Yeah, doesn't that kinda look like a Jazzmaster that's been melted, or
> what?
>
>
Shaun & Stacie
another guitar.end of story.$$$news:3719034d...@news.axess.com...
Samuel Bethune
TubeStore wrote in message <19990417174944...@ng-fx1.aol.com>...
>Obviously this guy is no player, and if he is, there's
>no heart & soul in his playing
>
No, he's right.....he's definitely got you pegged!
TubeStore
WRONG ! It was made for the guitar player to get an acoustic sound from an
electric guitar with a flip of a switch.
I still think a Nitefly for $489 is a deal
Sean Holland
tube...@aol.com (TubeStore) wrote:
>Gee, did you miss my point ?
If you don't quote a little of the post to which you are responding, no
one will be able to tell who you are involved in this petty bickering
with. Oh, by the way, you seem like a real twit in other ways too.
--
Sean
Due to spam filtering, mail from prodigy will not reach me.
TubeStore
--
Sean
That is one way of avoiding the issue. You seem like the kinda of guy who
when loosing a arguement says " yeah, well your fat "
Sean Holland
tube...@aol.com (TubeStore) wrote:
That is one way of avoiding the issue. You seem like the kinda of guy who
when loosing a arguement says " yeah, well your fat "
Avoid what issue? I'm not in your "arguement", so I can't be "loosing"
it, nor can I be losing it. I am just observing, as an outsider, that you
are a twit.
By the way, you can't spell either.
ModrnSound
>guitar based on the sound and the possibilities, not the look.
Of course you are right. More power to those of you that are playing Flys and
really enjoying it.
On a more cheeky note though:
But really there is something about an instrument's aesthetics that could
either inspire or make one want to blow chunks. And while the Fly doesn't
neccessarily invite projectile vomiting in me, let's just say that it's look is
not my cup of tea. I guess I just can't see myself playing subversive rebel
rocknroll with the Parker Fly, I mean if I was in Yanni's band then it'd work,
heehee :)
cheers!
modrnsound/artpopmod
ModrnSound
wow! I think you spoke quite wel and, made some great points. A true tour de
force!
modrnsound/artpopmod
meirion harries
TubeStore wrote:
> If I want an acoustic sound, I'll pick up an
Jake
ljstarin
know. I may have complaints about a Strat or a Gibson, but I can get over
them. Who knows what to expect with a Parker? It might be miserable to
play a ordinary guitar, but it's my misery and it's a misery that won't
surprise me with greater misery. This new technology, it frightens me so.
Bring back the slide rule. Remember active pickups? New Devil, new
evil.
> I still think a Nitefly for $489 is a deal. < Pretty cheap, eh? Gibson
has a line of crummy guitars too. I'll tell you what. I own the best
guitar ever made. Period. They only made one, and I have it. Not you,
buddy. Me, and me alone. All your whining and carrying on will change
nothing. I will not put it down just so I can own a guitar on the same
level as yours, as if that's going to help you sound and play better,
relative to myself. If we all owned Parkers just to be different, wouldn't
we be all the same? If everyone bought a Parker, what would you do? You
are like a dog chasing cars. What will you do when you catch one? Bury it
and look for another? I will make this offer to you. You give me a Parker,
and I will play it and abuse it and beat down people who come up on stage
with it. I will use it to open beers and crush walnuts. I will flail it in
the wind and shovel snow with it. I will paddle a canoe around lake
Minnetonka with it. I will shoot paperclips off the strings, like a
crossbow, with it. I will till my graden with it, stomp divits on the golf
course with it, use it as a step to get objects off of high shelves, I will
put it under my wheels, to keep my car from rolling down hill, when I am
working on the tranny, I will make a lean-to from it and the gig bag it
comes with, I will wear it on sundays with my finest suit. I will swat
flies with it, stir pancake mix with it, play stickball with it, I will put
a sign on it and join a picket line, I will join up with some strikebreakers
and bust a few heads with it, etc, etc. Then, I will give my oppinion of
it's versatility. I tell you, I can do all those things with a Strat, why
would I expect to get more out of a Parker? Just a point I wanted to make.
RegularGuy
On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 11:20:59 GMT, "ljstarin" <ls...@cwix.com> wrote:
snippage
>I own the best guitar ever made. Period. They only made one, and I have it. Not you,
>buddy. Me, and me alone. All your whining and carrying on will change
>nothing.
more snippage
TubeStore
when you see him.
ljstarin
V 4.01 I think it's available on Shareware now. The Warez bootlegs lack
the ability to discern between ribbing and satire. Unless YOU are just being
funny. After the upgrade, I can assure you that posts like this one will
not elude you as to their meaning. It was a jab at Tubestore and his, buy a
Parker because I have no one to talk to about them, posts.
RegularGuy wrote in message <371f9506...@news.iquest.net>...
ljstarin
take a joke? Well, I got a lot more where that one came from. I'll keep
them coming until you break. Hah,hah,hah,,ha,ha (evil laugh sound byte)
TubeStore wrote in message <19990422180319...@ng-fv1.aol.com>...
X-Factor
shared this nugget of wisdom :
this is fucking hilarious man
ADM
fun.
ljstarin wrote in message ...
TubeStore
TubeStore
TubeStore
S.L.
green eggs and ham, I do not like them, Sam-I-Am.
SL
ljstarin <ls...@cwix.com> wrote in message
news:vCDT2.601$UH....@news.cwix.com...
><snip>
You give me a Parker,
> and I will play it and abuse it and beat down people who come up on stage
> with it. I will use it to open beers and crush walnuts. I will flail it
in
> the wind and shovel snow with it. I will paddle a canoe around lake
> Minnetonka with it. I will shoot paperclips off the strings, like a
> crossbow, with it. I will till my graden with it, stomp divits on the
golf
> course with it, use it as a step to get objects off of high shelves, I
will
> put it under my wheels, to keep my car from rolling down hill, when I am
> working on the tranny, I will make a lean-to from it and the gig bag it
> comes with, I will wear it on sundays with my finest suit. I will swat
> flies with it, stir pancake mix with it, play stickball with it, I will
put
> a sign on it and join a picket line, I will join up with some
strikebreakers
> and bust a few heads with it, etc, etc
<snip>
TubeStore
only see its shape, they will point and make fun, they will not see it for what
it is, what it can do, they will only close thier eyes and dream of the old
days when Gibson and fender ruled these lands with guitars they have not
improved on in years. Those days, long ago when you had few choices, and when
you needed only one sound.
I say to you, it is not a freak, it is not some monster, it is a guitar. Can
we all just see the thing for what it really is and not what you want it to be
?
ljstarin
recommend, is tobacco and androstenedione. Tobacco makes me calm feeling.
Androstenedione makes me agressive and causes mood swings and various other,
endrocrine imbalance induced, side effects. Have not taken it in about a
year. Took about a month for the depression, it's cessation causes, to go
away, after I used it last. Now, my only drugs are sleep deprivation and
nicotine. Try starving for awhile and not sleeping for three days. It has
undenialble results if you want to feel whacked out. I think this is Steve
Vai's secret combo. Have fun.ADM wrote in message
<7fpaef$26mn$1...@quince.news.easynet.net>...
X-Factor
shared this nugget of wisdom :
>Thanks for you reply, The most powerful stuff I have taken, which I can't
>recommend, is tobacco and androstenedione. Tobacco makes me calm feeling.
>Androstenedione makes me agressive and causes mood swings and various other,
>endrocrine imbalance induced, side effects.
Such as being able to knock a baseball across the Pacific Ocean...
GolfCat
newsgroup discussion, i had to pick this thing up when I was in Guitar Center.
And guess what I (me personally) did not (negative) like it (enjoy/feel
pleased)by the Parker Fly (not nf4/nf5/nf6/nf7).
Is this what we have become. You have to take a Bill Clinton class on parsing
words to now post in this newsgroup. Damn shame.
P.S. They playability was fine, it was the thin tone that I did not respect.
Gol...@aol.com
You live like you golf...may we all live long and straight.