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jtees4

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Dec 7, 2012, 12:03:12 PM12/7/12
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LULU

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Dec 7, 2012, 2:29:22 PM12/7/12
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On Dec 7, 10:03 am, jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sad. I've owned and loved a few.http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/topic/57503-well-it-was-fun-but-it...
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Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC
in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.
Still, sad to see a once proud "Made In U.S.A." brand fall by the
wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL
factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a
solid player.

Lulu : (

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TheChris

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Dec 7, 2012, 3:55:13 PM12/7/12
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LULU <lulupa...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad-
80fc9e...@s6g2000pby.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 7, 10:03�am, jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Sad. I've owned and loved a
few.http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/topic/
> 57503-well-it-was-fun-but-it...
>> *************
>> NEW SONG UP!!!:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=78961
> 0
>
> ==================================
> Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC
> in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.
> Still, sad to see a once proud "Made In U.S.A." brand fall by the
> wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL
> factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a
> solid player.
>
> Lulu : (
>
> ==================================

Yeah, Slammers were really a bad move...

JJTj

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Dec 7, 2012, 4:44:24 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), LULU <lulupa...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC
>in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.
>Still, sad to see a once proud "Made In U.S.A." brand fall by the
>wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL
>factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a
>solid player.

I own one of the 1st 100 tiger top 'explorer' guitars the Hamer USA
people ever made, and I tell ya, it is one flocking kool instrument,
a work of art, back then I paid $1500 w/case for it used, mint.

When KMC bought the name, they 'tried' to make it work, but
like Ovation (whom they also ruined), all that mattered was $,
and overseas it went..and it turned to crap. VERY sad news..

FMIC (whom I believe own the brand) will bury it like they
did Sunn, and if time get tough, will pimp it off for quick $.

I remember showing it to a guy who had a real Gibson 1st
series explorer, and the Hamer played MUCH better.

<sigh> ..yet not worth anywhere near as much...

JJTj




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jtees4

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Dec 7, 2012, 5:03:50 PM12/7/12
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On Fri, 7 Dec 2012 11:29:22 -0800 (PST), LULU <lulupa...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

I owned three early to mid 90's hamer USA guitars, and while they were
not the same as the earlier ones, they were very very good top quality
guitars with top notch woods, hardware, pickups etc. Yes, the Slammer
series was garbage (except for the original Slammer MIK, but that's a
long story), some of their other imports were OK...but they killed
their own brand IMHO by making the imports look almost exactly like
the USA models. I still think Gibson did it right by just having a
completely different name on their imports, at least a Gibson still
means only one thing, a USA Gibson. You should never have to ask where
a guitar is made...do you hear me Fender?

Squier

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Dec 8, 2012, 8:35:05 AM12/8/12
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> jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Sad. I've owned and loved a few.
> http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/topic/57503-well-it-was-fun-but-its-over/
> *************

ah this is bad news! Hamer USA were some great guitars.
yeah - the new owners diluted the brand with the Hamer imports.
They over-milked the cow and now sent it off to the slaughterhouse.
Typical bean counters and spreadsheet MBA's running a company.
probably never even picked up a guitar... errr... sales unit.
anyways - that's a real shame. another one bites the dust.

Looks like the old guard at FMIC from the early post CBS Fender days
are all going... going gone... the bean counters and spreadsheet jockey MBA's
are fully entrenched there now... FMIC is turning into what CBS was. ah well.
so it goes.

notbob

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Dec 8, 2012, 9:36:06 AM12/8/12
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On 2012-12-08, Squier <squ...@strats.net> wrote:

> ah this is bad news! Hamer USA were some great guitars.

Yes, they were. I never owned one, but played a few. My
ex-son-in-law still has one. Out of all his once many guitar
collection, he kept only his Hamer and his og Jackson. I always enjoy
playing both.

nb

dvaoa

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Dec 12, 2012, 4:03:02 PM12/12/12
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On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:44:24 PM UTC-5, JJTj wrote:

> I remember showing it to a guy who had a real Gibson 1st
>
> series explorer, and the Hamer played MUCH better.
>
> <sigh> ..yet not worth anywhere near as much...
>
> JJTj

I just picked up a second hand MIK Hamer Std (Explorer). Set neck, cherry burst flame top. Mint condition, flawless construction, fit, finish, playability. I tried contacting them to place the date of production based on the SN#, but...it makes sense why I never heard back :-(

-d

LULU

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Dec 12, 2012, 4:45:50 PM12/12/12
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On Dec 12, 2:03 pm, dvaoa <dv...@altavista.com> wrote:


> I tried contacting them to place the date of production based on the SN#, but...it makes sense why I never heard back :-(
>
> -d

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Here's some old Hamer serial number info that I found in my files.
There used to be a Hamer data base on the web, but I don't know if
it's still up.

Good Luck (hey . . . tell us what you find out about your instrument)

Lulu : )

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Hamer USA Guitars: Serial Numbering System

From 1974 through 1981 Hamer USA employed two separate serial
numbering systems, one for custom instruments and one for production
models:

Custom Instruments: These instruments are easily recognized by the use
of a four digit number stamped into the wood on the back of the
peghead. The numbers ran from #0000 through #0680. All of the early
Hamer USA Standards and 12-String basses as well as a number of
prototype instruments were included in this serial numbering system.

Production Models: Production models are stamped (initially with ink,
later into the wood, on the back of the peghead) with either a five or
six digit serial number. The first digit indicates the year that the
instrument was built. The next four or five digits are sequentially
stamped in order of production. For example, serial number 7 0001 was
built in 1977 and was the first production model guitar built.
Similarly, 0 1964 was built in 1980 and was the 1,964th production
guitar built. The serial numbering sequence by decade is indicated
below:



1970s:

7 0001 - 9 1450



1980s:

0 1451 - 9 24192



1990s:

0 24193 - 9 50155



2000s:

0 50156 - present

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dvaoa

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Dec 12, 2012, 5:27:28 PM12/12/12
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Hmm...Mine's a Korean with a 7-digit figure SN :-)

-d

jtees4

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Dec 12, 2012, 7:22:43 PM12/12/12
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:27:28 -0800 (PST), dvaoa <dv...@altavista.com>
wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can't tell the dates based on the serial numbers
of the import models. Those imports are decent guitars for sure
though....a bit heavy from what I remember.

Phantom Post

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Dec 12, 2012, 11:55:08 PM12/12/12
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LULU <lulupa...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad-
80fc9e...@s6g2000pby.googlegroups.com:

> Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC
> in 1988. The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.
> Still, sad to see a once proud "Made In U.S.A." brand fall by the
> wayside. Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL
> factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a
> solid player.
>
> Lulu : (
>

Saw a little piece on Jol Dantzig on the local PBS the other night. Wasn't
aware he was a founding partner in Hamer. Still making guitars.

http://dantzig.com/jol

--

Pat

email: valid would be net

Tim

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Dec 13, 2012, 12:11:51 AM12/13/12
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On Dec 7, 11:03 am, jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Sad. I've owned and loved a few.http://www.hamerfanclub.com/forums/topic/57503-well-it-was-fun-but-it...
'Tis best to die with some dignityrather than turned into musicYo
fodder...

LULU

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Dec 13, 2012, 8:30:43 AM12/13/12
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On Dec 12, 9:55 pm, Phantom Post <pha...@cox.invalid> wrote:
> LULU <lulupakal...@yahoo.com> wrote in news:aaac91be-cc95-4781-b7ad-
> 80fc9efa3...@s6g2000pby.googlegroups.com:
>
> > Hamer really died as a premium guitar brand when they were sold to KMC
> > in 1988.  The whole Slammer series are Hamer guitars in name only.
> > Still, sad to see a once proud "Made In U.S.A." brand fall by the
> > wayside.  Any guitar that was manufactured in the old Palatine, IL
> > factory is still probably a good investment, or at the very least, a
> > solid player.
>
> > Lulu : (
>
> Saw a little piece on Jol Dantzig on the local PBS the other night.  Wasn't
> aware he was a founding partner in Hamer.  Still making guitars.
>
> http://dantzig.com/jol
>
> --
>
> Pat
>
> email: valid would be net

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Dantzig probably makes some very nice guitars, but the price is a bit
more than excessive, I couldn't imagine that anyone would ever take
such a high-priced piece of lumber to a gig. I wonder how many
guitars are "commissioned" each year?

Thanks for the link,
Lulu : )

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