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USA Strat neck + Squier body?

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Nil

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Sep 18, 2013, 6:42:28 PM9/18/13
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Would there be any problem mating a USA Strat neck to a Squier Affinity
body? The neck heel would fit in the pocket OK?

I have a Warmoth neck sitting around with no body. I see a Squier body
for sale on craigslist, and figure it would be a cheap way to use up
some of my spare parts and get a "new" guitar out of it.

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Sep 18, 2013, 6:48:39 PM9/18/13
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do it

Fred

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Sep 18, 2013, 6:57:41 PM9/18/13
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fender on fender works ... YMMV ,

IMO squier bodies suck - they are made of shit wood, as are the
electrics .. but the necks are worse. I use a frankinStrat as a
beater ... and leave the good stuff at home.

Nil

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Sep 18, 2013, 7:04:03 PM9/18/13
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On 18 Sep 2013, Fred <fr...@nospam.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> fender on fender works ... YMMV ,
>
> IMO squier bodies suck - they are made of shit wood, as are the
> electrics .. but the necks are worse. I use a frankinStrat as a
> beater ... and leave the good stuff at home.

How is the wood "shit"? The body I'm looking at is alder. The wood is
covered up by the poly finish of course, so I can't see any flaws in
the wood, but the finish looks unblemished and smooth.

I'm also wondering about the bridge hole - is the 6 screw hole spacing
and route the same on the Squier as on a USA Stratocaster?

And it seems to me that I read somewhere that Squier bodies are thinner
front to back than a standard Strat. True?

gonjah

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Sep 18, 2013, 7:15:13 PM9/18/13
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On 9/18/2013 5:42 PM, Nil wrote:
I think it will work but the bridge on an import is (or was) narrower. I
doubt that would be an issue. I had the reverse problem; Warmoth body
with an import neck. I had to buy a special bridge to solve the problem.

Since it's on craigslist you might take your neck to see if it fits. On
mine it was TIGHT but it worked fine. The holes didn't match but it
wasn't a problem.

Fred

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Sep 18, 2013, 7:30:02 PM9/18/13
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Mine is light as paper compared to my MIJ

gonjah

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Sep 18, 2013, 7:42:09 PM9/18/13
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On 9/18/2013 6:04 PM, Nil wrote:
> On 18 Sep 2013, Fred <fr...@nospam.com> wrote in alt.guitar:
>
>> fender on fender works ... YMMV ,
>>
>> IMO squier bodies suck - they are made of shit wood, as are the
>> electrics .. but the necks are worse. I use a frankinStrat as a
>> beater ... and leave the good stuff at home.
>
> How is the wood "shit"? The body I'm looking at is alder. The wood is
> covered up by the poly finish of course, so I can't see any flaws in
> the wood, but the finish looks unblemished and smooth.
>
> I'm also wondering about the bridge hole - is the 6 screw hole spacing
> and route the same on the Squier as on a USA Stratocaster?
>

My guess would be no. The difference is because the USA is measured in
inches and the import is metric. Resulting in slightly narrower holes.

If you go the other way, (USA body with import neck) your E strings will
be too close to the edge of the neck. And, you'd need a USA bridge or
you'll have to re-drill the holes for an import bridge. Nobody wants that.

Twibil

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Sep 18, 2013, 7:47:19 PM9/18/13
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On Wednesday, September 18, 2013 4:30:02 PM UTC-7, Fred wrote:
>
>
> >> IMO squier bodies suck - they are made of shit wood, as are the
> >> electrics .. but the necks are worse.
>
> > How is the wood "shit"? The body I'm looking at is alder. The wood is
>
> Mine is light as paper compared to my MIJ

So?

1.) If density were all there were to guitar bodies we'd all
be making them out of rock maple or ebony.

2.) No two chunks of alder -or any other wood- have the same
density, grain pattern, Etc.

%

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Sep 18, 2013, 8:08:15 PM9/18/13
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no one's talking about your head

Nil

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Sep 18, 2013, 8:17:29 PM9/18/13
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On 18 Sep 2013, Nil <redn...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote in
alt.guitar:
I've been doing some digging - my findings plus the comments left here
have dis-inspired me from the craigslist body. From what I gather, the
Squier body will be quite a bit thinner than the standard USA body, and
the bridge cavity will be narrower, and the screw holes will be spaced
differently. I don't want to deal with that.

Thanks, all!

jtees4

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Sep 18, 2013, 8:34:18 PM9/18/13
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I don't remember the exact measurement but it would be either 1/8" or
1/4" thinner.




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Flasherly

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Sep 18, 2013, 11:11:13 PM9/18/13
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Squire's have their own devotees, collectors, as long and over a
timeframe for factoring various manufacture makes, experimentation,
and quality attributed to various models. Which, needless to say, can
range from excellent vintage Japanese craftsmanship and striking
designs to, literally, Pacific Rim, generic plywood. Shit, not being
a collector, I do know to lump Squires into a pile isn't the half of
it.

Nil

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Sep 18, 2013, 11:25:42 PM9/18/13
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On 18 Sep 2013, jtees4 <jte...@hotmail.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> I don't remember the exact measurement but it would be either 1/8"
> or 1/4" thinner.

That sounds about right. Apparently there's quite a range of variation.

From what I've read, the Squier body is enough thinner that most
standard USA trem blocks won't fit (they stick out the back.) I want to
use a spare USA vintage-style trem I have hanging around, so this
solution won't do.

White Spirit

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Sep 19, 2013, 1:59:53 AM9/19/13
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On 19/09/13 04:11, Flasherly wrote:

> Squire's have their own devotees, collectors, as long and over a
> timeframe for factoring various manufacture makes, experimentation,
> and quality attributed to various models. Which, needless to say, can
> range from excellent vintage Japanese craftsmanship and striking
> designs to, literally, Pacific Rim, generic plywood. Shit, not being
> a collector, I do know to lump Squires into a pile isn't the half of
> it.

For me, Japanese and early Korean Squiers are the ones to collect. I
prefer them to the 'real thing' along with Mexican Fenders as they are
closer to vintage specs in terms of fretboard radius, not having that
unnecessary extra fret, using a six-screw tremolo system etc.

Flasherly

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Sep 19, 2013, 4:00:00 AM9/19/13
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Didn't know you were also into Mexican Fenders, although I have seen
your collection of Squires, some from earlier. As I said, I'm not a
collector or well enough versed to really appreciate a finer aspect to
a vintage characteristics entailing tonal expectancy. As for the OP's
decision not go after the unnecessary work to shaping the neck butt or
drilling added holes for a fit: may as well get it right, next time,
with a left-handed neck and put it on backwards for a Cobain guitar
with a long-run on the thin E.

-
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Segovia could probably never have played like me.
-Cobain interviewed for Fender Frontline Magazine (Fall 1994)

[ Most of my lyrics are contradictions. I'll write a few sincere
lines, and then I'll have to make fun of them. I don't like to make it
too obvious, because ...].

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Sep 19, 2013, 11:06:17 AM9/19/13
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Play the GOOD stuff - or why even have it. ed

Nil

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Sep 19, 2013, 11:22:50 AM9/19/13
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On 19 Sep 2013, esha...@yahoo.com wrote in alt.guitar:

> Play the GOOD stuff - or why even have it. ed

Of course. Not sure how that relates to the topic, though.

Twibil

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Sep 19, 2013, 2:01:45 PM9/19/13
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On Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:22:50 AM UTC-7, Nil wrote:
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>
> > Play the GOOD stuff - or why even have it. ed
>
> Of course. Not sure how that relates to the topic, though.

Fred earlier posted in this thread that he played a beater
and left his "good stuff" at home.

Along with you and Esha, I can't quite figure out why one
would want to gig using inferior instruments and only play
the good ones at home, but that's what Fred said.

Nil

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Sep 19, 2013, 2:09:23 PM9/19/13
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On 19 Sep 2013, Twibil <noway...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> Fred earlier posted in this thread that he played a beater
> and left his "good stuff" at home.
>
> Along with you and Esha, I can't quite figure out why one
> would want to gig using inferior instruments and only play
> the good ones at home, but that's what Fred said.

A "beater" is not necessarily inferior. It's just less monitarily
valuable. I've got several less-valuable but still quite good enough
instruments that I'll might take out of the house or travel with rather
than take my less easily replaceble ones.

I've played Squiers that were quite competent guitars and would do the
job in most any situation.

%

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Sep 19, 2013, 2:58:09 PM9/19/13
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no one is suprised at what you can't figure out

%

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Sep 19, 2013, 3:00:21 PM9/19/13
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he won't be able to figure this out either

Twibil

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Sep 19, 2013, 4:34:18 PM9/19/13
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On Thursday, September 19, 2013 11:09:23 AM UTC-7, Nil wrote:
>
>
> A "beater" is not necessarily inferior. It's just less monitarily
> valuable. I've got several less-valuable but still quite good enough
> instruments that I'll might take out of the house or travel with rather
> than take my less easily replaceble ones.
>
> I've played Squiers that were quite competent guitars and would do the
> job in most any situation.

As was said before: why not play the good stuff if you've got it?
Not doing so would be like owning the "Ferris Bueller" Ferrari and
never ever taking it out of the garage.

I've been gigging for well over 50 years now and have never lost an
instrument yet, so the "too valuable to gig with" argument seems
pretty silly to me.

Nil

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Sep 19, 2013, 4:50:02 PM9/19/13
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On 19 Sep 2013, Twibil <noway...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> As was said before: why not play the good stuff if you've got it?
> Not doing so would be like owning the "Ferris Bueller" Ferrari and
> never ever taking it out of the garage.

As I said before, my guitars are all "the good stuff".

> I've been gigging for well over 50 years now and have never lost
> an instrument yet, so the "too valuable to gig with" argument
> seems pretty silly to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

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Sep 19, 2013, 8:08:26 PM9/19/13
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i told you he wouldn't understand

Twibil

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Sep 19, 2013, 8:13:21 PM9/19/13
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On Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:50:02 PM UTC-7, Nil wrote:
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>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGc4zOqozo

Shrug. Be paranoid all you like: they're your instruments
and you can do whatever you please with 'em.

But if I was gonna worry about taking my $10,000 guitar out of
the house because something might possibly happen to it, then
I wouldn't bother owning a $10,000 guitar in the first place.

%

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Sep 19, 2013, 8:32:27 PM9/19/13
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a true guitar virtuoso

Nil

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Sep 20, 2013, 12:25:58 AM9/20/13
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On 19 Sep 2013, Twibil <noway...@gmail.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

I never said I don't take them out of the house. Where did you get that
idea?

I've had a guitar broken by an airline's careless handling. I now
travel with sturdier, expendable instruments. You can call that
"paranoid" if you want - I call it being practical.

I also don't own any $10,000 guitars and I doubt I ever will.
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