How good is/was Joe Walsh?
steppenvalve
arguement about who's good, bad and ugly. This one bothers me enough
that I would like some other opinions. He called Joe Walsh one of the
most over-rated guitarists in history and said Don Felder can play
rings 'round him. I think Joe knew how to put on the "dumb guitar guy"
act, but that he's also a great player with enough technical skill to
hold his own. I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
Steppenvalve
smeghead
the James Gang Rides Again album. Funk 49 is a great tune. Anyway, he's
not technically a great guitarist, but he had his own unique style, great
chops, and can play a mean rock slide guitar (Rocky Mountain Way). So no,
he's probably not in the top 10 best guitarists of all time, but he's
certainly better than Don Felder.
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Navin R. Johnson
I bought Don Felder's solo CD titled Airborne on Ebay out of curiousity. A
more appropraiate title would have been Stillborne. I like Felder's playing
on eagles records pre and post walsh. he plays on walsh's you can't argue
with a sick mind live record that i like too. To answer your question i
think Joe Walsh rocks and is one of my favorites.
saw him on t e drew carey show. damn good actor too...ok it wasnt an act
David
I think he's a great guitarist. Definitely not over-rated IMO
Not A Speck Of Cereal
But that's all history now.
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Joseph Jester
> I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
>
> Steppenvalve
But the question to your answer isn't really what we think, or what
your brother thinks, it's what you think. If you think Joe Walsh's style
is really influential to your own playing, then that's all that matters.
My opinion on the matter is that your brother should give Walsh some
credit. I'm not a big Eagles fan, but isn't the solo in "Hotel
California" kicked off by Joe? Please excuse me for my ignorance on the
Eagles, but that solo contains some of the most memorable licks in rock
music. Crappy guitarists don't play memorable licks that young aspiring
guitarists want to cop.
Joe
JMK
I usually point to the first solo in "Dirty Laundry" as evidence of
what Walsh can do. It sounds like someone trying to break into an
apartment.
JMK
Mike McKernan
wrote:
>
> Cyclic Ford vs. Chevy argument. There can be no winners and
>losers. It's all what you like.
>
Does that mean that you can buy a windshield decal of "Calvin" pissing
on Joe Walsh?
Bogus Fracture
I agree with the consensus. He's technically competent and has a lot
of personality in his playing, a quality that should appeal to a blues
fan.
BF
Nil
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> I'm not a big Eagles fan, but isn't the solo in "Hotel California"
> kicked off by Joe?
No. The first solo is Felder, then Walsh.
carlygtr
"JMK" <jkai...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > I usually point to the
first solo in "Dirty Laundry" as evidence of
> what Walsh can do. It sounds like someone trying to break into an
> apartment.
>
> JMK
It's Steve Lukather
Daniel Dreibelbis
steppe...@yahoo.com (steppenvalve) wrote:
find a copy of Walsh's album _You Bought It, You Name It_ and put on
the track "Told You So" . Much of that album was cut live on the floor
in a rehearsal space.
James Gang is also a great starting off point. As well as "Funk 49",
there's also "Walk Away" and "The Bomber".
And let's not forget, if it wasn't for Joe Jimmy Page wouldn't have
his Les Paul and Townshend wouldn't have the Gretsch 6120 he used on
_Who's Next_ :)
--
Dan Dreibelbis, Guitar Nerd - Better Living Through Home Recording
Now On Soundclick for your listening pleasure!
www.soundclick.com/bands/2/dandreibelbismusic.htm
Ron Thompson
> I heard that Don Felder was "dismissed" from the Eagles
> (recently?). Not sure why that was...but I'm sure it prolly had to do
> with personality conflicts (as is the case in 99% of relationship
> breakdowns). He doesn't appear in the "Hole In The World" video
> (which came out in 2002 - I think). <sigh> Can't we all just get
> along? ;)
No man. They had a lot of trouble there, it made ordinary news and all.
Him and the drummer dewd, as usual. I don't know what the outcome was,
other than him not touring with them and all. He has much writing credit,
so it would be tough to do an Eagles show without his ok. Great band. And
a guitar player that can't hear the raw power that is Joe Walsh should take
up golf.
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The opinions above are mine and mine alone.
Rich Johnson
> IMHO he's a great player. Have your brother listen to any of the tunes on
> the James Gang Rides Again album. Funk 49 is a great tune. Anyway, he's
> not technically a great guitarist, but he had his own unique style, great
> chops, and can play a mean rock slide guitar (Rocky Mountain Way). So no,
> he's probably not in the top 10 best guitarists of all time, but he's
> certainly better than Don Felder.
Or listen to "Bluebird" from the first James Gang album. Joe is not
one of those slick technical guys, but he rocks. He puts a lot of
heart into whatever he does, and that's more important in my book.
I might be setting myself up for flames, but Felder always bored me.
He's a highly skilled and tasteful player. But nothing he did ever
moved me. Then again, I was never really an Eagles fan anyway (except
for the Philladelphia Eagles).
- Rich Johnson
David
That's a cool song. I didn't know Joe payed on that album.
Odin
"Atlas" <c1su...@hotmail.comXNOSPAMX> wrote in message
> >No man. They had a lot of trouble there, it made
ordinary news and all.
> >Him and the drummer dewd, as usual.
>
> Maybe the guitarist didn't like the drummer's first name?
>
> Maybe the drummer didn't like the guitarist's choice of
> instrument?
>
> Maybe the drummer wanted the guitarist to dress up like a
> little schoolgirl so he could spank him?
Maybe Henley is just such a prick that nobody really likes
him and Felder finally couldn't kiss that ass anymore.
Felder should form a band with Paul Simon.
PRS GEEK
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> When watching videos from their unplugged sessions "Hell
> Freezes Over Tour", I was noticing their acoustic guitar technique(s).
> Felder was playing amazing lines with polish and precision. Looked to
> me as though he has a couple of years of classical guitar lessons
> under his belt. Joe Walsh was scratching and clawing away...working
> So when it comes to technical proficiency, I'd have to give
> Songwriting...that title is OWNED by Walsh. Hands-down.
I agree with all you said... I've been a Walsh fan since James Gang, have a
bunch of his stuff and still listen to it quite a bit... Felder does seem to
be the more educated player, no doubt. But Walsh has a fire and technique
with his rhythm and lead stuff that you can ID immediately. Felder? I
couldn't tell him from a zillion other guitarists.
I'll take Walsh's originality and timing any day.
Oh yeah, I'm not insinuating you took a side on "who's better"... I just
replied because I felt exactly the same way when I saw the two sitting
together playing on the live Hell Freezes Over stuff.
Jeff
Nil
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> Felder? I couldn't tell him from a zillion other guitarists.
You may be right in general, but he's gets a peculiar fuzz tone on
several Eagles records that sounds like nobody else. Already Gone,
One of These Nights, Hotel California.
> I'll take Walsh's originality and timing any day.
One advantage that Joe has... he can write a good song. (Maybe
Felder can, too, but I've never heard one.)
PRS GEEK
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> > Felder? I couldn't tell him from a zillion other guitarists.
>
> You may be right in general, but he's gets a peculiar fuzz tone on
> several Eagles records that sounds like nobody else. Already Gone,
> One of These Nights, Hotel California.
"One of these nights" and Already gone" have always been a few of my
favorite Eagles lead lines for sure.
> > I'll take Walsh's originality and timing any day.
> One advantage that Joe has... he can write a good song. (Maybe
> Felder can, too, but I've never heard one.)
I guess I just like to hear how Joe does Funk #49, Midnight Man, the
Bomber... The ENTIRE "So What" album was a huge influence on me. Some Eagles
sang on "Help me thru the night"... County Fair had Joe Vitales cymbals
flanged. GREAT for smoking dope and listening (in the 70's)!!!! Cool stuff
that I grew up on....
Jeff
Dave Jackson
"Odin" <amsp...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Or just him and Walsh.
Dave in Minnesota
Rich
He's good. He's become extremely wealthy playing guitar.
My guess is that he's a bit too busy making music to be sitting behind a
keyboard putting the mouth
on other successful musicians.
Obviously, some here DO have the time....:)
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> Felder Wrote Hotel California.
Cool... I didn't know that...
> He's good. He's become extremely wealthy playing guitar.
I'm sure that's an understatement... ;-)
> My guess is that he's a bit too busy making music to be sitting behind a
> keyboard putting the mouth
> on other successful musicians.
Hey man... I'm on vacation this week! Lemme see tho... We've had Elliot
Randall spam this group a few times (he's good! ;-) and I remember Stanley
Jordan posted here a few years ago... Can't think of any other big names
coming to this place... Hmmmm... Guess we're not worthy...
> Obviously, some here DO have the time....:)
Mostly, it's just _opinions_ about guitar players... But don't bring up the
solo in "Cinnamon Girl"...
Jeff
Don Evans
>
> "Rich" <paladin_ji...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Felder Wrote Hotel California.
>
> Cool... I didn't know that...
Me either! Here's a quote from "To the Limit: The Untold Story of the
Eagles" by Marc Eliot. Eliot quotes Henley describing Hotel California: "A
fire and brimstone, unholier than thou autobiographical piece. It is one of
the most luxuriously haunting, personally ambivalent spiritual excursions in
the history of Rock and Roll." The song opens and closes with one of the
most immediately recognizable signatures in pop music, the clanging twin
guitar riffs of Don Felder and Joe Walsh. All that music was written by
Felder. Henley says "Felder created the music track and although we
rerecorded it, basically all the parts were there. I put the melody on top
while driving around in my car."
Interesting!
Don
>
> > He's good. He's become extremely wealthy playing guitar.
>
> I'm sure that's an understatement... ;-)
>
> > My guess is that he's a bit too busy making music to be sitting behind a
> > keyboard putting the mouth
> > on other successful musicians.
>
> Hey man... I'm on vacation this week! Lemme see tho... We've had Elliot
> Randall spam this group a few times (he's good! ;-) and I remember
Stanley
> Jordan posted here a few years ago... Can't think of any other big names
> coming to this place... Hmmmm... Guess we're not worthy...
>
> > Obviously, some here DO have the time....:)
>
> Mostly, it's just _opinions_ about guitar players... But don't bring up
the
> solo in "Cinnamon Girl"...
>
> Jeff
> >
><<snip>>
Juhan Leemet
> ...arguement about who's good, bad and ugly. This one bothers me enough
> that I would like some other opinions. He called Joe Walsh one of the
I was impressed to learn that Joe Walsh learned to play the double lead
that George Harrison and John Lennon did in "And Your Bird Can Sing". In
an interview, Joe apparently said that he didn't know it was 2 guitar
players. He admitted that he had to work his ass off for that one.
Not quite the same guitar trickery as Chet Atkins playing two songs
simultaneously (and one backwards?!?), but I don't consider that musical.
--
Juhan Leemet
Logicognosis, Inc.
karlseely
Correct. Walsh is playing a telecaster, more obvious on the live album.
JMK
I think the second one is Lukather. The first is Walsh, I believe
JMK
JMK
I was unsure, so I looked it up.
http://www.stevelukather.net/Session.aspx?id=34
JMK
Goldtop 71
situation. He ripped off some very nice leads and did a hilarious Neil Young
rip-off. He may not be the best player on the planet, but he holds his own,
IMHO.
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> My brother(more into blues than rock) and I(rocker) had another
> arguement about who's good, bad and ugly. This one bothers me enough
> that I would like some other opinions. He called Joe Walsh one of the
Boyd Williamson
>>
> Cool... I didn't know that...
>
>> He's good. He's become extremely wealthy playing guitar.
>>
> I'm sure that's an understatement... ;-)
If I was getting the royalties from Hotel California alone, everybody else
could kiss my ASS...
>> Obviously, some here DO have the time....:)
>>
> Mostly, it's just _opinions_ about guitar players... But don't bring up the
> solo in "Cinnamon Girl"...
This whole thread is another one of those discussions about technical
exhibition vs. taste.
Joe Walsh is one of my very biggest faves, and has been ever since I saw him
in a club right after they released "James Gang Rides Again." After seeing
them, I bought the album and learned it note-for-note, hardly taking time to
eat or sleep.
I mean, let's just put it into some context here: We'd seen Jimi Hendrix,
and Clapton with Cream, both 3-piece supergroups, where the guitar player
plays incredible numbers of notes all over the place. But then along comes
Joe Walsh, who never once in his life, from what I can see, EVER did a
"diddley-diddley-diddley," playing in a threeper that really, really worked
without being punk.
All his stuff is musical, not flashy. His wonderful good humor comes out in
his playing, as well as a deep appreciation for traditionally great music,
along with some modern innovation of the time and plenty of power. Nearly
everything the guy plays on guitar is a hook.
And while he has enjoyed considerable success with the James Gang, on his
own, and with his contributions to the Eagles, I think he's still
underrated, and somehow, I think he's quietly comfortable with that. He's
always been a musician, not a gunslinger.
"My Masarati goes 185
I lost my license, now I don't drive"
"And every Saturday we work in the yard
Pick up the dog doo, hope that it's hard..."
Ya gotta love the guy!
He's no hero to shredders, that's for sure. That's what he's purposely
avoided from day one in his career. Not because he couldn't do it; he just
never considered it music. Yngwie, while amazing, bores me after ten
minutes; I could listen to Joe's stuff for days.
While rather soft-spoken, down-to-earth, and anti-egotistical, I think Joe
Walsh's influence can be seen somewhat in the length this thread has become
in the last day or so.
And I LOVE the solo on Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl" for basically the same
reasons. I do the song myself, and I while I do tech it up a bit playing
chord notes under the tonic, that one note thing just works like crazy, and
I get a bit of a rush every time I play it.
To me, that's the essence of a great hook: not something that no one else
can play, but rather, something ANYONE else can play, and be instantly
recognizable.
Technical skill and expertise are fine, but good music shouldn't require
eight years of study to appreciate. Music shouldn't fundamentally be for
other musicians; it should be for people flipping burgers, digging ditches,
driving trucks, installing cable, selling cars, working assembly lines, and
all the other millions of REAL jobs out there.
They're the ones who ultimately pay me to play music; not other musicians.
Joe Walsh and Neil Young are both great examples of how music can, and does,
connect with people who aren't as privileged as I am, to be playing music
for pay.
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Mark Keith
> arguement about who's good, bad and ugly. This one bothers me enough
> that I would like some other opinions. He called Joe Walsh one of the
> most over-rated guitarists in history and said Don Felder can play
> rings 'round him. I think Joe knew how to put on the "dumb guitar guy"
> act, but that he's also a great player with enough technical skill to
> hold his own. I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
>
> Steppenvalve
They are both good...In a way, I think Felder might be the best
overall, but Joe is no slouch. Joe plays a mean slide. Felder is kick
butt at other stuff...MK
P.S. Joe is also a ham radio operator, which bumps him another notch
in my book...:) All the best geetar boys are hams...:/ har har...
Mark Keith
> Maybe Henley is just such a prick that nobody really likes
> him and Felder finally couldn't kiss that ass anymore.
> Felder should form a band with Paul Simon.
Maybe not far from the truth....Felder is a kick ass player...Very
clean, and precise. And he obviously knows loads of stuff that is non
Eagles...I think he teaches also, or did at one time...I thought
losing him was a mistake. I always like the way Felder and Walsh
played off each other. The Eagles need both of em for max value I
think....:/ MK
Nil
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> I think the second one is Lukather. The first is Walsh, I believe
How dare you question carl's scary Don Henley knowledge?
steppenvalve
I think Don Felder "composed" a lot of solos (Life in the Fast Lane/
Hotel Calif) and divided the parts between him and Joe. I'm not
knocking Don, he and Joe play great together and Don always seemed to
be a good sideman whereas Joe was a frontman, at least as far as
personalities. So Don got a lot of writing credit on Eagles albums,
mostly for sideman-oriented stuff.
Steppenvalve
Ron Thompson
...
> While rather soft-spoken, down-to-earth, and anti-egotistical, I think Joe
> Walsh's influence can be seen somewhat in the length this thread has
become
> in the last day or so.
I snipped the rest, all well said. I would point out to anyone curious You
Can't Argue With A Sick Mind, a record I have not ever been without since it
came out. Some of the finest rock and roll songwriting, singing, and guitar
playing on that one. It's in The Marauder right now in fact.
Goldtop 71
Hotel California
Victim of Love
Disco Strangler
Those Shoes
He is a kick-ass session guitarist. The classical solo on the "Hell freezes
over tour" makes Walsh's embarrassing.
I hope he get filthy rich suing those money-grubbing bastards. Unlike Walsh
and Schmidt, Felder is an Eagle by contract.
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I saw that tour and it was one of the best concerts I ever heard/saw...
Can't remember who was the warm up band tho... I can remember the long solos
with the disco ball going and how kewl I thought that was. March 9th 1975,
the year I graduated. was the "So What" tour...
I will never forget that concert.
Jeff
carlygtr
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Just pointing it out, you dumb ass
Guncho
He has much writing credit,
> so it would be tough to do an Eagles show without his ok. Great band. And
> a guitar player that can't hear the raw power that is Joe Walsh should take
> up golf.
You don't need anyone's permission to perform a song live. Hence cover bands.
Chris
PRS GEEK
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> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:11:56 GMT, "PRS GEEK" <no...@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >"One of these nights" and Already gone" have always been a few of my
> >favorite Eagles lead lines for sure.
>
> Nights"...that's it for me. My fav. Eagles tune.
Guess it was Felder cuz that was WAY pre Walsh... Those cool little stabs
always got me!
Jeff
carlygtr
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Great tone on that solo. Hated the band, loved that tune though
Juhan Leemet
(getting OT)
> And I LOVE the solo on Neil Young's "Cinnamon Girl" for basically the
> same reasons. I do the song myself, and I while I do tech it up a bit
> playing chord notes under the tonic, that one note thing just works like
> crazy, and I get a bit of a rush every time I play it.
I happen to agree. When I play it, I find a very slow finger wobble (going
in and out of tune) seems to work. Then each note is actually a different
note, with a (very subtly) different effect, actually not unlike some
blues tunes. That song must also have the longest/cheeziest guitar outro
in the history of music? In a weird way, that also works for that song.
Fortunately, Neil Young doesn't make every song sound exactly the same,
but he still manages to retain a unique sound. Ya know it's him.
Minimalist (though not quite as minimal as Samuel Beckett's empty stage).
> To me, that's the essence of a great hook: not something that no one
> else can play, but rather, something ANYONE else can play, and be
> instantly recognizable.
Definitely unique and recognizable. Neil Young maybe more than Joe Walsh?
I'm not sure I could pick Joe out of an audio lineup. Santana more easily.
And as several have said... Their songs also seem to be "about something",
with either an interesting (different) viewpoint, or some social
commentary, or some such. I like their sense of humour (and irony?). They
have managed to achieve (sufficient?) success without getting "big heads".
I'm a bit puzzled by all these "who's better" threads. Who cares? I think
it is much more relevant to ask "who's interesting!" i.e. who to listen to.
A buddy of mine teaches music theory, and he summed it up for me: "good
music is familiar enough to be comfortable and enjoyable, yet surprising
enough to keep your interest". So, it's like the matador and the bull? The
music leads you in certain directions, then does something a bit
different. If it were totally bizarre and different (like Frank Zappa's
Uncle Meat was for me) you just cannot understand or enjoy it. That also
depends on what you are used to hearing. That might also be why "serious
composers" are "way out there"? They've heard/studied it all, and want
to do something different. We don't (yet) understand it well enough to
decide whether it is good or bad. Sometimes, years later, opinions change.
A Guy Called Tyketto
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>> I'm not a big Eagles fan, but isn't the solo in "Hotel California"
>> kicked off by Joe?
>
> No. The first solo is Felder, then Walsh.
on Hotel California, correct. Felder, then Walsh, then Felder.
Reverse that for Hell Freezes Over; Walsh, then Felder.
BL.
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It was Felder. IIRC, This was Bernie Leadon's last record with
the Eagles. He left after this, because he through the band should stay
with its country rock-type roots, while their producer at the time saw
a rock band that was aching to break out of their shell. So out went
Leadon, in came Walsh. Hotel California turned out to be Randy
Meisner's last record with the Eagles; why, I'm not sure. But in came
Timothy B. Schmit.
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Sam Benson
" I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
> >
> > Steppenvalve
Don't overlook JW's work with Dan Fogelberg...
Not A Speck Of Cereal
[...]
[] > I'll take Walsh's originality and timing any day.
[] One advantage that Joe has... he can write a good song. (Maybe
[] Felder can, too, but I've never heard one.)
Nope. Felder has limited song writing abilities. Not that his
contributions are unappreciated here.
Chris
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[] " I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
[] > >
[] > > Steppenvalve
[]
[] Don't overlook JW's work with Dan Fogelberg...
And much more:
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Joseph Jester
> Henley says "Felder created the music track and although we
> rerecorded it, basically all the parts were there. I put the melody on top
> while driving around in my car."
Maybe that explains the being on a dark, desert highway with cool winds
in his hair, huh? :P
Joe
howldog
Ian anderson told a story on a tour a few years back, that the Eagles
opened for them on a tour longmtime ago, and used to stand side stage
and watch the Tull show. At the time, Tull was playing this particular
song from their Stand Up album, cant recall which one it was, Maybe
For a thousand Mothers or maybe Reasons for Waiting, maybe not...
anyway. He then went on to say how the chord progression in his tune,
is "coincidentally very similar" to the Eagles' Hotel California.
Then he played the Tull tune and you could easily sing the lyrics to
Hotel California along. Try it and see. Kind of amusing.
The Chris
@fe2.texas.rr.com:
>
> " I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
>> >
>> > Steppenvalve
>
> Don't overlook JW's work with Dan Fogelberg...
>
>
He's a tough one to figure out.... He played on a solo album by John
Entwistle called 'Too Late the Hero'... that's the only thing that I
got really familiar with... He's certainly capable on it. His solo
stuff is spotty - he knows how to get good guitar sounds for
sure...but, I never could judge his abilities....
dr-c...@sbcglobal.net
>
> I guess I just like to hear how Joe does Funk #49, Midnight Man, the
> Bomber... The ENTIRE "So What" album was a huge influence on me. Some
Eagles
> sang on "Help me thru the night"... County Fair had Joe Vitales cymbals
> flanged. GREAT for smoking dope and listening (in the 70's)!!!! Cool stuff
> that I grew up on....
Me too, but we were also frequent fryers on that ubiquitous orange barrel
acid in its heyday. "Rides Again" was popular, but the rawness and balls of
"Live in Concert" and that Echoplex abuse, which hadn't yet become passe,
made it a favorite for acid trips. Many, many brain cells gave up the ghost
when we cranked that album.
It almost makes me miss my old Echoplex...
Jerry McG
Hear him live in 1970 with "The James Gang", his original breakout band. He
was a fantastic player in those days. They were on a show headlined by trio
of a post-Cream Jack Bruce, Mitch Mitchell and Larry Coryell. The lineup was
more promise than performance, they actually sucked big time, but we all
left thinking Walsh was something of a revelation.
Steve2000indeja
><joseph...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Don Evans wrote:
>>> Henley says "Felder created the music track and although we
>>> rerecorded it, basically all the parts were there. I put the melody on top
>>> while driving around in my car."
>>
>>Maybe that explains the being on a dark, desert highway with cool winds
>>in his hair, huh? :P
>>
>
>Ian anderson told a story on a tour a few years back, that the Eagles
>opened for them on a tour longmtime ago, and used to stand side stage
>and watch the Tull show. At the time, Tull was playing this particular
>song from their Stand Up album, cant recall which one it was, Maybe
>For a thousand Mothers or maybe Reasons for Waiting, maybe not...
>
"Reasons For Waiting" is a beautiful, well written tune. Very Tull, yet 'not
Tull' at the same time -mostly major key (except for that one little Ian/Tull
flute lick/part), a love song etc.
I love the harmony flute lines (Martin Barre on second flute? according to the
credits) which eventually meld a wonderful string arrangement. What a great
tune. One of my favorite Tull tunes..
But that's not the one..
>anyway. He then went on to say how the chord progression in his tune,
>is "coincidentally very similar" to the Eagles' Hotel California.
>
>Then he played the Tull tune and you could easily sing the lyrics to
>Hotel California along. Try it and see. Kind of amusing.
The Tull song is "We Used To Know." I spotted the similarity back in the day,
but I first thought of the similar descending minor verse chords in Leon
Russell's "Home Sweet Oklahoma" (1971?) when I heard "Hotel California."
I think those chords are a circle of fifths, classical type composition/theory
thing. But I don't know much music or theory. I'm just a blues rock guy.
I guess Ian could have sued Felder and Henley/Frey but someone would have been
hired to find the piece of classical or baroque music where those changes
(probably) first appeared...
There's nothing new under the pop music sun. "Hotel California" got as popular
as it did for a lot of reasons, much more popular than thoseTull and Leon album
tracks which have some similar verse chords.
Too bad classic rock radio has played 'HC' to death. It's a great song which I
simply can't listen to anymore, most days.
Steve
RutledgeTW
on a Telecaster or a Les Paul. Overrated? I'm not sure about that. But I can
tell you Don Felder is Joe's peer, and one of the most overlooked and
underrated guitarists. Hotel California is the two of them trading licks...
Does one sound head & shoulders above the other? My vote is no, and I have
seen them live. Don Felder is a real-deal, well-rounded guitarist. As is Joe.
Felder also plays pedal steel very well. Both Joe and Don are equally good
acoustic players. Joe has a more rock & roll personnae, as he is a star in his
own right. Looking at them as two guitar players in the Eagles, it's a tossup.
Bottom line is give Don Felder the respect he deserves. Joe Walsh deserves
his as well. They are both consumate professionals.
Just my opinion,
Tom Rutledge
GBrycki
big with his "Frampton Comes Alive" album, so Frampton actually opened for
Walsh. Frampton had massive troubles with his sound that night, btw. One
minute, you couldn't hear him, the next, and the volume blew you to the back of
the auditorium.
Anyhow, I enjoyed Walsh's set, but it didn't blow me away. This was around the
time that he had that live album out, "You Can't Argue With A Sick Mind", and
he played most of the tunes on that album, with pretty much the same
arrangements. Like, for example, on "Turn to Stone" he did that moody break in
the middle with the flute solo, just like on his live album. To be honest, I
really loved him during his James Gang days, especially on their live album,
"Live in Concert", with all his Echoplex mayhem. I guess in some ways he's
like Clapton, in that some people prefer his old power trio days, as opposed to
his middle period or what he's doing today.
That said, I think he's a great guitar player (especially slide), I just like
his earlier stuff better.
Back to that concert...So, Walsh finishes up his set and thanks everyone and
leaves. Of course, out come the Bic lighters and the chanting/waiting for the
encore.
Well, Walsh doesn't come out. 20 minutes go by, and no Joe. House lights are
up and everything. So people start to file out. I'm maybe 30 feet outside the
auditorium now, and suddenly, I hear Walsh roaring into "Come Together", by the
Beatles. About several hundred people suddenly turn on their heels and charge
back to the auditorium, only to find the doors closed and locked (ain't concert
security great? Wouldn't let anybody back in, even if they had their ticket
stubs.) I peer in the small window, and sure enough, there's Walsh doing the
encore for maybe a handful of people. Gotta love the guy...
BRY
spartacus
Barnstorm was great, too. That album tends to be overlooked, but there
was some great stuff on there.
Steve2000indeja
>was some great stuff on there.
>
Wow. I forgot about Barnstorm. I actually saw him live during that time,
playing those songs and some of the big James Gang songs. I think it was billed
as 'Joe Walsh and Barnstorm. 'Could be wrong.
Joe was fine that night but he was opening for Mahavishnu Orchestra. I guess
that's why I forgot I saw Barnstorm.
Steve
Ricky W. Hunt
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> I saw him in concert, many, many moons ago. This was just before Frampton
hit
> big with his "Frampton Comes Alive" album, so Frampton actually opened for
> Walsh. Frampton had massive troubles with his sound that night, btw. One
> minute, you couldn't hear him, the next, and the volume blew you to the
back of
> the auditorium.
Frampton. Now there is an incredibly tasty guitarist that doesn't get a lot
of recognition.
-rick-
> Barnstorm was great, too. That album tends to be overlooked, but there
> was some great stuff on there.
No one's mentioned 'the smoker you get the player you drink' either...
John Wheaton
"Ricky W. Hunt" <rhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message>
> Frampton. Now there is an incredibly tasty guitarist that doesn't get a
lot
> of recognition.
>
every 3 months or so in the early `70`s. He rocked every time!
See ya,
John
Teotwawki
>
> Definitely unique and recognizable. Neil Young maybe more than Joe Walsh?
> I'm not sure I could pick Joe out of an audio lineup. Santana more easily.
Half a bar is all that takes.
>
> And as several have said... Their songs also seem to be "about something",
> with either an interesting (different) viewpoint, or some social
> commentary, or some such. I like their sense of humour (and irony?). They
> have managed to achieve (sufficient?) success without getting "big heads".
>
> I'm a bit puzzled by all these "who's better" threads. Who cares? I think
> it is much more relevant to ask "who's interesting!" i.e. who to listen
to.
>
> A buddy of mine teaches music theory, and he summed it up for me: "good
> music is familiar enough to be comfortable and enjoyable, yet surprising
> enough to keep your interest". So, it's like the matador and the bull? The
> music leads you in certain directions, then does something a bit
> different. If it were totally bizarre and different (like Frank Zappa's
> Uncle Meat was for me) you just cannot understand or enjoy it. That also
> depends on what you are used to hearing. That might also be why "serious
> composers" are "way out there"? They've heard/studied it all, and want
> to do something different. We don't (yet) understand it well enough to
> decide whether it is good or bad. Sometimes, years later, opinions change.
>
some of zappas stuff is amazing, but a lot of it, like humour anywhere gets
tedious when you hear it for the thousandth time. Billy the mountain, joes
garage, you are what you is i just can't bring myself to play again ever.
hwoever I like the srts of places zappa takes you to with tracks like rat
tomago. all the stuff he did with beefheart was amazing IMO.
neil.he...@sbcglobal.netnospam
>
> "Rich" <paladin_ji...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:fJiAc.1182$M96....@fe2.texas.rr.com...
>
> > Felder Wrote Hotel California.
>
> Cool... I didn't know that...
>
> > He's good. He's become extremely wealthy playing guitar.
>
> I'm sure that's an understatement... ;-)
>
> > My guess is that he's a bit too busy making music to be sitting behind
a
> > keyboard putting the mouth
> > on other successful musicians.
>
> Hey man... I'm on vacation this week! Lemme see tho... We've had Elliot
> Randall spam this group a few times (he's good! ;-) and I remember
Stanley
> Jordan posted here a few years ago... Can't think of any other big names
> coming to this place... Hmmmm... Guess we're not worthy...
>
> > Obviously, some here DO have the time....:)
>
> Mostly, it's just _opinions_ about guitar players... But don't bring up
the
> solo in "Cinnamon Girl"...
There's a solo in "Cinnamon Girl"? I know there'sa "note" in the middle of
that song, but I didn't know there was a solo. :P
BTW, regarding Walsh, a friend of mine used to play at a regular gig at a
club in Santa Barbara called the Head of the Wolf, and Joe used to sit in
with them at times... he lived in Santa Barbara at the time - don't know if
he stil does. Anyway this was a jazz group - Keyboards/drums/bass/sax.
Anyway, my friend Danny (who was the keyboardist in the band) had this to
say about Joe when I asked him what he thought of him as a guitar player:
"As a musician, Joe doesn't know a whole helluva lot, but he sure plays the
shit out of what he knows"
--
Neil Henderson
Progressive Rock
http://www.saqqararecords.com
Jeff Engelmann
>
> "Atlas" <c1su...@hotmail.comXNOSPAMX> wrote in message
> > x-no-archive: yes
>
> > When watching videos from their unplugged sessions "Hell
> > Freezes Over Tour", I was noticing their acoustic guitar technique(s).
> > Felder was playing amazing lines with polish and precision. Looked to
> > me as though he has a couple of years of classical guitar lessons
> > under his belt. Joe Walsh was scratching and clawing away...working
>
> > So when it comes to technical proficiency, I'd have to give
>
> > Songwriting...that title is OWNED by Walsh. Hands-down.
>
> I agree with all you said... I've been a Walsh fan since James Gang, have
a
> bunch of his stuff and still listen to it quite a bit... Felder does seem
to
> be the more educated player, no doubt. But Walsh has a fire and technique
> with his rhythm and lead stuff that you can ID immediately.
Roger that. Walsh did some studio work with BB King on Indianola Miss.
Seeds and LA Midnight that really stands out in the mix. Strictly rhythm
work, but you can tell it's him when you hear it.
Jeff
spartacus
What was the album he did with BB where he traded off leads with him? it
sounded like it was live in the studio and BB did a bit of talking
before they sTarted playing the song I'm talking about. As I recall it
was just a jam but I'd like to get it on CD if it's available.
GBrycki
>> Seeds and LA Midnight that really stands out in the mix. Strictly rhythm
>> work, but you can tell it's him when you hear it.
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>
>What was the album he did with BB where he traded off leads with him? it
>sounded like it was live in the studio and BB did a bit of talking
>before they sTarted playing the song I'm talking about. As I recall it
>was just a jam but I'd like to get it on CD if it's available.
>
Actually, that was the title cut from LA Midnight. You can hear Walsh say
something like, "...like when you put your hands on the chick", and BB answers
"Right! Right!".
BRY
David
Goldtop 71
buy a house and get away.
I've seen Joe Cocker, Stevie Nicks, Kenny Loggins and autographed guitars by
Joe at Fancy Music. There even used to be a great Blues Band formed by all
the session players who spent time there called "The Blues Bombers". When
they had a quorum, they usually played a gig in town. I was fortunate enough
to have seen them a few times.
"Toad the Wet Sprocket", "Ugly Kid Joe", and for us old fogies, "The
Strawberry Alarm Clock" and Bobbie Krieger all hail from S.B.
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Ricky W. Hunt
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>
> >
> Lines On My Face from Frampton Comes Alive is one of my all time favs
>
>
The live version of "Do You Feel Like We Do" is one of my all time faves.
Some EXTREMELY tasty playing.
PRS GEEK
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Yeah... I'm pretty proud of the few brain cells I was able to keep! ;-)
> It almost makes me miss my old Echoplex...
Man... I love the ways those things sound. But they just aren't practical
anymore. Not to mention, if you get drunk and knock it off yer amp, yer
pretty much done with it!
Jeff
PRS GEEK
"-rick-" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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>
> > Barnstorm was great, too. That album tends to be overlooked, but there
> > was some great stuff on there.
>
> No one's mentioned 'the smoker you get the player you drink' either...
I always liked "So What" the best. I liked every song on that album. Can't
say the same for "Smoker" and "Barnstorm"... YMMV...
Jeff
Deaf Mellon MESA
> My brother(more into blues than rock) and I(rocker) had another
> arguement about who's good, bad and ugly. This one bothers me enough
> that I would like some other opinions. He called Joe Walsh one of the
> most over-rated guitarists in history and said Don Felder can play
> rings 'round him. I think Joe knew how to put on the "dumb guitar guy"
> act, but that he's also a great player with enough technical skill to
> hold his own. I'll always be a fan, but what do y'all think?
>
> Steppenvalve
I saw Joe Walsh & Don Felder on the Eagles "When Hell Freezes Over"
tour. Joe was the only guy hopping around stage showing any interest
in having some fun or showing any enthusiasm for the music. That
said, I think they're both excellent guitar players. At least they
were the night I saw them.
DaveT
Zippy the Pinhead
> But Walsh has a fire and technique
>with his rhythm and lead stuff that you can ID immediately.
I saw the Iggles, tour before last, in St. Paul MN at the Energy
Center. That was an apt name for the venue, mostly due to Walsh's
pyrotechnics.
I'll never forget him taking off on "Boys of Summer". He had the
entire band jumping up and down in unison.
Not bad for a bunch of geezers.
Rick Hooker
early 70's he was gtreat then and with collaberations later in life he is
still one of the greatest guitarist in my book, I'd give my right nut to go
back in time to the "Agora" and see just a couple shows that came through
Ohio State University.
GO "JOE"
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Dana Craft
<rho...@columbus.rr.com> wrote:
>Joe used to play a little club in Columbus (The Agora) back in tyhe very
>early 70's he was gtreat then and with collaberations later in life he is
>still one of the greatest guitarist in my book, I'd give my right nut to go
>back in time to the "Agora" and see just a couple shows that came through
>Ohio State University.
>GO "JOE"
He once played at the Mansfield YMCA dances. Saw the Lemon Pipers
there too. Phil Keaggy & Glass Harp used to play at the fairgrounds in
Mansfield all the time.
I never saw him at the Agora but I did see Peter Frampton and Queen
there when I was an OSU student in the early-mid 70's. Nice intimate
little place.
Tiffany Tractor
I saw him in Seville Expo about 10 years ago. He played a couple of
songs as a 'special gues artist' but he wasn't anything
special. He played this funny plastic tube thing he put in his
mouth and made a silly wa sound with it. SOunded like a kazoo.
Think that was his gimmick, other than that nothin of note.
Mike Schenk
I saw the same show on television and he played Funk #49 as well as
Rocky Mountain Way with Steve Vai, Joe Satriani and Brian May backing
him up and all looking at him like he was from Mars. Thought he was
great, not shredder like Vai or Satch, but very tasteful in the things
he plays.
Mike
--
Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you!
PRS GEEK
"Rick Hooker" <rho...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Joe used to play a little club in Columbus (The Agora) back in tyhe very
> early 70's he was gtreat then and with collaberations later in life he is
> still one of the greatest guitarist in my book, I'd give my right nut to
go
> back in time to the "Agora" and see just a couple shows that came through
> Ohio State University.
> GO "JOE"
Yep... That was when the James Gang was a "regional" act... I had a friend
that said the James Gang played at his High School prom in Cleveland...
I live in Columbus...
Jeff
PRS GEEK
"Dana Craft" <dana...@charter.net> wrote in message
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Lots of great concerts with early/young bands... I remember seeing REO there
just before their live album came out... ZZ top, Mahogany Rush, Roy
Buchannan, some incarnation of Deep Purple, Journey, Todd, and a few others
I can't remember...
I think it holds 1200 max... Still bands playing there, but it's not called
the Agora anymore.
Jeff
Bannerstone
rock and roll venue in the country they say. Some years back there was a
televised aniversary program that ran several nights for the building and it was
amazing some of the stars that had played there and how they talked about this
little dive we had taken for granted all these years. Lots of cool stories
about the back stage area, etc.
Last cool show I saw there was a few years ago when Richie Blackmore came back
to the US with his band Blackmore's Night, they were doing this Rennisance like
music which was amazing stuff and his musicians were really top notch but not
what the crowd wanted to hear. And yes I remember some of those Buchannan shows
there and at Stache and Little Brothers. Columbus hasn't ever been a big draw
for rock bands but a college the size of OSU certainly draws some excellent
talent.
David
snip
Daemon
Re: Re: How good is/was Joe Walsh?
By: Tiffany Tractor <ttractor101...@hotmail.com> to alt
.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar on Thu Jun 24 2004 01:01 pm
> Hi,
*waves*
I only saw him once, at Darien Lake here in Western New York, years ago...
He was obviously VERY drunk, and the band was on a rotating stage, so I was...
shall we say... less than impressed.
...Ralph J. Abramo
In the shuffling madness...
Boyd Williamson
> He was obviously VERY drunk, and the band was on a rotating stage, so I was...
> shall we say... less than impressed.
>
times, in the flow of what it meant to be a recognized "rock star" back
then. At the time, 90% of the crowd was pretty buzzed, too.
I'm sure he'd be the first to apologize to you today for it.
Zoid
Daemon
Re: Re: How good is/was Joe Walsh?
> > I only saw him once, at Darien Lake here in Western New York, years ago...
> > He was obviously VERY drunk, and the band was on a rotating stage, so I wa
> > shall we say... less than impressed.
> >
> I'm sure that Joe, like a lot of the musicians back then, got caught up at
> times, in the flow of what it meant to be a recognized "rock star" back
> then. At the time, 90% of the crowd was pretty buzzed, too.
>
> I'm sure he'd be the first to apologize to you today for it.
Probably. I'm actually quite a fan of Joe.
Frankly, I think I'd be more inclined to accept an apology from whoever
decided to put the poor guy on a rotating stage.
[daemon]
In the shuffling madness...
David
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That's the talk box. He used it on Life's Been Good and Rocky Mountain Way
em...@comcast.net
'em! He did every song
superbly. It was obvious he had practiced his act till
it was spit shine polished. He did all his own songs, and he didnt miss
a beat, drop a note or forget a lyric during the entire 90 minute show.
It was quite apparent he wasnt on "Auto-pilot", he really got into it!I
have seen alot of the greats in my 23 yrs of attending live performances
(From my first in '76 at "A Day On The Green" at the Oakland coliseum
with Blue Oyster Cult, Ted Nugent, Aerosmith, Foreigner, etc.,
to Johnny Winter just a few weeks ago), and he rates right up there with
the best!
EmJee
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JMK
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Not sure it's even a talk box. He stated in a GP interview that
he took a tube and stapled it to the back of a speaker. Noted that
he took just enough electrical engineering classes at Kent State
to be dangerous.
JMK
em...@comcast.net
Just as an aside (And without sounding too much like a critic), it may
be important to understand the geographical differences btwn DF and
JW. Its also my opinion that they play off each other
extremely well, and that why they were *Both* equally
important to the continuing success of the band, perhaps it was felt Don
Felder and Glenn Frey were cut
too much from the same cloth, and they needed
(For lack of a better term) some kind of gimmick, some
kind of comic relief. Enter JW. I have heard Joe is a very
light-hearted, "Doesnt take himself too seriously" kind
of a guy. In fact his humor comes thru so well in a lot of his songs.
Very little humor in most Eagles songs.
I saw The Eagles at the Cow Palace in SF about 20 or so yrs ago, Roy
Orbison openned, put on one helluva show, and was boo-ed off the stage.
I felt embarrassed
for just being in the same age group as those ingrates. Roy was putting
out BIG hit records before most of those little long-haired punks were
learning how to walk, and they had the nerve to do that. They didnt know
him, they didnt want to know him, all of them kept screaming ("Eagles!"
"Bring on the Eagles" "Get OFF the stage!!! etc.,) but Roy came thru
like the professional he was, didnt say one disparaging remark,
and sang with that beautiful falsetto voice, seemingly not letting
anything shake him (At the time he was
upwards of fifty yrs old!). I got punched out by a couple guys in the
parking lot for chastising them for
poking fun at Roy (Obviously oblivious to the man and his music) but I
didnt care, the Southern Comfort
took away the pain :) oh.....those *were* the days....
emjee
Nor-Cal
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Vanessa
> I got punched out by a couple guys in the
> parking lot for chastising them for
> poking fun at Roy (Obviously oblivious to the man and his music) but I
> didnt care, the Southern Comfort
> took away the pain :) oh.....those *were* the days....
Those rednecks!!
--
¨°º©[Vanessa]©º°¨
"póg mo thón "
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pco...@gmail.com
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Les Cargill
Walsh is a much better *writer* - solos, songs, all that - than Felder.
Walsh's stuff is hookier and easier on the ear. Felder does cooler,
more outside stuff. I think there's a tradeoff there.
Joe Walsh is one smart guy, and I think he knew how to keep the
electric guitar where he thought it needed to be. Check
"History of the Eagles" - Joe comes off as a very perceptive
and intelligent guy. He as much as says that "How ya doin'"
persona was something he was hiding behind.
We'll never get tired of "Funk #49". That's how good Joe is.
--
Les Cargill
jtees4
proficient....but just great. He does that by being extremely
professional and plays with a lot of "detail". He has gotten much
better since being sober too. Felder was great in The Eagles....but
solo and vocally he wasn't so good IMHO. Felder wrote most of the two
guitar parts for him and Joe, including Hotel California....so I think
it was great how he was willing and able to aloow Joe to fully
integrate into the Eagles at that time.
Flasherly
accompanying seat beside him not to keep up but presumably augment
Walsh.
Eric Clapton, for instance, has done that with a lot of players,
covering a lot of different and intricate standards.
Neither was Joe a steady-stream burner over a most-illustrious career.
He fought with the Eagles and he continued fighting. Befriended
eventually by fellow musicians in the U.K., he took refuge, married
someone's sister and may have started piecing life [back] together.
Technical skill may not be as appropriate a term to relatedly derive
what drove it [prior] when considering inspiration and what happens
once you pop the top [the first time] and most the air jumped out in a
woosh.
notbob
> Walsh's stuff is hookier and easier on the ear.
> and intelligent guy.
Eagles fill a desire to have an actual three guitar line-up AND to
give the band a true "rock" edge. I think Joe pretty much proved
himself, along those lines, way back in his James Gang days. As fer
being a lush, who hasn't.
> We'll never get tired of "Funk #49". That's how good Joe is.
nb
west
out of the blue on the 20 meter band. He is an extra class amateur radio
operator, license WB6ACU.
Flasherly
> He is no dolt. I had a short conversation with him about a year ago
>out of the blue on the 20 meter band. He is an extra class amateur radio
>operator, license WB6ACU.
Clapton and Jimmy Page. A flash by a pit, actually, orchestral pit,
probably with first and at least second violins, although all I saw
was those three and their guitars, all nylon guitars unless I'm
mistaken. Paul McCartney was paying them [for contributing to his
film]. And if I am, maybe it was Joe and not before Jimmy [or anyone
else] not wearing a tuxedo, pretty sure Eric was dressed for the part,
and, maybe, it was Joe who was only one holding an electric guitar.
(Kind of doubt it was his custom-made Schecter: too hot for that mix.)
Pt
He must be pretty good.
Pudentame
it might be.