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make...@my-deja.com

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Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
guitarists with this band?


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Allan Flippin

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Mayall has always found great guitarists to perform with over the
years. In fact he still is performing and his current guitarist (Buddy
Whittington) is downright amazing! (I saw them a few weeks ago). I'm
too lazy to go digging for all the information you asked for. BUT, I'll
give you a better idea of who's been in the band and who hasn't.

Neither Jeff Beck, nor Jimmy Page have ever been in Mayall's band.
However, both of those guitarists were in the Yardbirds, and briefly
they were in that band at the same time (which is a little scary).
Yes, Clapton was in Mayall's band, when they made the famous
"Beano" album (actual title "Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton"). That
album came out in '66.
After that, Clapton went on to form Cream. He was replaced with
Peter Green (future Fleetwood Mac), then Mick Taylor (future Rolling
Stone). Other guitarists who have been in Mayall's band include Harvey
Mandel, John Mark, Rick Vito and Coco Montoya.
For more information, check out John Mayall's entry at
www.allmusic.com. Also, the site www.johnmayall.com exists and is
fairly informative.

Allan

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mexman

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your thinking of the Yardbirds. Clapton was in the bluesbreakers for like a
year before him,ginger baker, and jack bruce went off to join cream.
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DougTblood

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In article <8nunj1$b0q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, make...@my-deja.com writes:

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>Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
>Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
>what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
>guitarists with this band?
>

Mayall's had about a million guitar players in his band over the years. But
Beck and Page weren't among them. Clapton was with him 65-66, then came
Peter Green ( and then Clapton again and then Green again), after that came
Mick Taylor. BTW Taylor once sat in with Mayall when Clapton didn't show
up for a gig at age 15 or so; he told Mayall he could play and John let him
prove it....

Clapton, Beck and Page all played for The Yardbirds at one time. Beck
replaced Clapton when he quit to join Mayall, Page joined as the bass player
and went back to guitar when the other guitar player learned how to play bass.
When Beck left Page became the sole guitarist in the band....


Doug Trueblood


Oliver Nightingale

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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eric first, then peter green, then beck. i think this is right. Clapton was
i think the first, and he was the guitarist for 66s beano album.

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> Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:25:31 GMT
> Subject: John Mayall's Bluesbreakers/who&when?
>
> Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
> Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
> what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
> guitarists with this band?
>
>

Ednovak

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>Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
>Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
>what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
>guitarists with this band?
>

As far as I know, of these 3 only EC was a Bluesbreaker. Mayall has had a
great collection of guitarists thru the years.
You're probably thinking of the Yardbirds, which had EC, JB, and JP in that
order. JB and JP were together for a short time. There was a guitarist before
EC, I think, but few remember his name. When JP left for Led Zep, that was
about it for the Yardbirds.
Chris Dreja played rhythm guitar for all 3.


Gregzy

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<make...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8nunj1$b0q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
> Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
> what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
> guitarists with this band?
>
>
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If my sources and recollections are correct :

1963 (Bluesbreakers formed)- Davey Graham -guitar
John McVie(Fleetwood Mac) -bass
Graham replaced by Sammie Prosser-guitar
Prosser replaced by Bernie Watson-guitar

1964 Watson replaced by John Gilbey-guitar
Gilbey replaced by Roger Dean-guitar

1965 Dean replaced by Jeff Kribbit-guitar
Kribbit replaced by Eric Clapton(God)-guitar
McVie replaced by Jack Bruce(Cream)-bass

1966 Clapton replaced by Peter Green (Fleetwood Mac) Bruce
replaced by John McVie-bass

1967 Green replaced by Mick Taylor(Rolling Stones)
McVie replaced by Paul Williams-bass

Williams replaced by Keith Tillman-bass

1968 Mick Taylor-guitar
Tillman replaced by Andy Fraser(Free)-bass

Fraser replaced by Tony Reeves-bass

Reeves replaced by Steve Thompson-bass

1969 Taylor replaced by Jon Mark-guitar

1970 Mark replaced by Harvey Mandel (Canned Heat)
Thompson replaced by Larry Taylor(Canned Heat)-

bass
1971 Mandel replaced by Jimmy McCulloch (Wings)
Taylor replaced by Victor Gaskin-bass

I lost track and interest after the mid-70's but The Bluesbrekers did
re-form in the early 80's with Mick Taylor and John McVie for a few shows. I
think you're probably thinking of The Yardbirds as having Clapton, Page and
Beck in it.

The Yardbirds were also formed in 1963 with Jim McCarty and Top Topham as
the guitarists. Eric Clapton replaced Topham as guitarist but left in the
summer of 1965 after disagreeing with the direction the band was taking with
"For Your Love" and the more Brit Invasion pop sound. Clapton was replaced
by Jeff Beck who had been recommended by Jimmy Page after Page declined the
position. In 1966 the group's bassist, Paul Samwell-Smith wanting to devote
his time to producing ,was replaced by Jimmy Page who then moved to second
lead guitar after the rhythm guitarist, Chris Dreja learned and moved to
bass. By November of 1966 Beck who had health and other problems left the
group and by this time Clapton had formed Cream with Jack Bruce from the
Mayall days. In 1967/68 Page formed "The New Yardbirds" with Keith Relf on
vocals which soon evolved into Led Zeppelin. Beck had now recovered enough
from his problems to form The Jeff Beck Group with Rod Stewart on vocals Ron
Wood on bass and Aynsley Dunbar later followed by Mick Waller on drums who
both had previously been drummers in Mayall's Bluesbreakers so the entire
scene was very much inter-related. I hope this has either helped or so
confused you that you no longer care about the answer 8-)

Gregzy

Armand

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Great post! Thanks! I've saved this one.

Armand


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Allan Flippin

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Even slightly more bizarre, it's my recollection that the Yardbirds
pretty much imploded, and Jimmy Page was left holding the bag. He had
the name, and there were tour dates that had to be filled in. In the
meanwhile, he had been collecting up his next band, and took them out to
fulfill the obligations, calling them the "New Yardbirds".
Once things settled down some, the group was reborn as Zep.

Allan

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edn...@aol.com (Ednovak) wrote:
> When JP left for Led Zep, that was about it for the Yardbirds.
> Chris Dreja played rhythm guitar for all 3.

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> Even slightly more bizarre, it's my recollection that the Yardbirds
> pretty much imploded, and Jimmy Page was left holding the bag. He had
> the name, and there were tour dates that had to be filled in. In the
> meanwhile, he had been collecting up his next band, and took them out to
> fulfill the obligations, calling them the "New Yardbirds".
> Once things settled down some, the group was reborn as Zep.
>
> Allan

That's very true. It was actually quite bizare. Left with the tour date
obligations, Page enlisted John Paul Jones and tried to get Procol Harum
drummer B.J. Wilson and singer Terry Reid but neither wanted to risk the new
group since Procol Harum was having some moderate success and Terry Reid
had just had some success in the states with "Bang, Bang You're Terry Reid".
Reid recommended Plant who recommended Bonham and the rest is history. Led
Zep's first job as a quartet was to back P.J. Proby (Had to be a Beatle
connection in there somewhere 8-) ) on a recording session then they toured
Scandinavia as "The New Yardbirds" and upon their return did the Led Zep One
lp in thirty hours. I've read various places that it was Keith Moon who
coined "Led Zeppelin" saying sarcasticly that the group would "go over like
a lead zeppelin (balloon)" Now for another Who connection. Jimmy Page
(then doing session work) was brought in by producer Shel Talmy on "Can't
Explain" because he didn't think Townshed profiecient enough to handle the
lead guitar on it. The inter-connections are nearly endless.

Gregzy

DougTblood

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(Ednovak) writes:

> There was a guitarist before

>EC, I think, but few remember his name. When JP left for Led Zep, that was


>about it for the Yardbirds.
>Chris Dreja played rhythm guitar for all 3.
>
>

That would be the Mighty Top Topham me thinks. Dreja switched to bass
after Page joined and stayed their until the end. And btw Led Zep started out
as The New Yardbirds for a few gigs in Europe...


Doug Trueblood


glyn jones

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Nobody mentioned Walter Trout
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glyn jones

No

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In article <8nunj1$b0q$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>, make...@my-deja.com says...

> Wasn't Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton in John Mayall's
> Bluesbreakers? Were any of them with the band at the same time, also
> what was the sequence in which they were members? Were any other great
> guitarists with this band?
>

Nope, you're thinking of the Yardbirds that had Clapton who was replaced
by Beck who was suplemented and then replaced by Page. Led Zep started
out its first tour being billed as "The New Yardbirds".

Clapton left the Yardbirds and joined John Mayall's Bluesbreakers,
recording the famous "Beano" album. John's group has had a number of
greats in the guitar chair over the years:

Eric Clapton
Peter Green
Mick Taylor
Harvey Mandell
Coco Montoya
Walter Trout


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Frank D. Greco

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I heard that Mayall is playing at BB King's blues cafe in NYC
on Sept 7 with Peter Green opening.

Anyone know if that's true?

Frank G.
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Allan Flippin

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Yes, that is correct. You can get up to date Mayall information at
(surprise) www.johnmayall.com

Allan

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Richard J PRIESTLEY

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Hi
I saw this set up Green Mayall in the UK Plymouth to be precise, my advice
is if you dont want to be dissapointed dont go, they are both pretty crap
these days.

Mayalls guitar player is the only thing worth going for, listen to the
Doctor Zee amp he uses, the Green band are so bad it hurts, or should I
say the guitar players the other guys are ok, just shows how far you can
get trading on your former glory.

I have seen better bands in the village hall down the road.

Regards Rich Priestley ( 35 years playing )


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