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Jasz^

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Sep 6, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/6/99
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Has anyone heard of this Co.? the name on the guitar is Cortez.

Any info on this guitar company would be a great help.

Thanks

Jadehaus

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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>Has anyone heard of this Co.? the name on the guitar is Cortez.
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>Any info on this guitar company would be a great help.
>
>Thanks
>

I don't know about them but I did find a Cortez acoustic for sale at
www.tcguitar.com at their guitar data base. It looks like a copy of the Gibson
Dove or one of those classic Gibsons. It's about 30 years old. Don't know if
it's Japanese made but I would think it was one of those so-called Lawsuit
Models.


James

Albert Boggs

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Sep 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/9/99
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James,
Cortez is a Japanese guitar company active between 1969 and 1988. They
mostly built copies of popular American instruments. I at one time owned
a Cortez copy of Jimmy Page's doubleneck... but my copy had bolt-on
necks. After I did an adjustment (setup) on the action it played pretty
good. I remember paying $375.00 for it in 1977? (I think).
I've also seen a Les Paul copy (bolt-on) and a Gibson ES175 copy, which
played pretty nice. I remember the pickups on my doubleneck being pretty
hot. I sold the doubleneck in 1882 for $500.00 .

Regards Al Boggs

Jasz^

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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If anyone has any info on this guitar, please let me know.

The guitar is in "mint" condition

I've had offers from $600.00 to $700.00 for it and would really like to know
more about this guitar before I sell.

See photos at http://members.xoom.com/Jaszz/

ja...@sgi.net

Albert Boggs

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Jazz,
I had no problem with your email.
I took a look at the photos of your guitar. You DO have one of the most
beautiful ES175 copies I've ever seen. I have to agree with those before
me who have said so. I'm just a guitarist, who's been around a long time
and though I am knowledgeable about some things... and have a large
collection of reference material to support that knowledge, I have no
Idea of the value of your guitar. There are three ways I know of to find
out what the value is. You can take the guitar to someone who is a
reputable appraiser (George Gruhn) or someone like him.
You can send someone like him photos of the instrument (you would need
multiple views of the instrument to get an accurate quote... Id call
ahead first... and you should still expect to pay for this evaluation
just as you would one in person, or you could offer it for auction on
ebay...with a reserve of what you think it's worth. If your reserve
isn't met you don't have to sell.
Someone said before that an instrument's value is determined by the
amount someone is willing to pay for it.
On the Antiques Road show on public TV, the appraisers are always
telling people there items are worth xxxxx by saying... "this item would
probably bring xxxxxx at public auction" .
Auctions demonstrate what the public will pay for an item.

Hope all this helps... Al Boggs

Jadehaus

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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>I had no problem with your email.
> I took a look at the photos of your guitar. You DO have one of the most
>beautiful ES175 copies I've ever seen. I have to agree with those before
>me who have said so. I'm just a guitarist, who's been around a long time
>and though I am knowledgeable about some things... and have a large
>collection of reference material to support that knowledge, I have no
>Idea of the value of your guitar.

I just saw that Cortez and it's a great looking ES-175 copy.

Check out this Washburn copy of the ES-175. Tell me what you think of it.
It's a prototype or something so it looks better than the production model they
once had. Here is the link -


http://208.28.236.25/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=68820

It's not as accurate of copy as that Cortez and it's a bit costly but it's a
beauty.

James

jamiefi...@gmail.com

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Apr 21, 2018, 3:09:32 PM4/21/18
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Cherry burst Dove edition.Has Cortez instead of Gibson on it.No serial #. How can I find out what year it is.

Flasherly

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Apr 21, 2018, 4:58:32 PM4/21/18
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:09:29 -0700 (PDT), jamiefi...@gmail.com
wrote:

>Cherry burst Dove edition.Has Cortez instead of Gibson on it.No serial #. How can I find out what year it is.

No serial number and documentation. Check. You therefore have ten
choices: The a number of years dating back and between 1960-70, for
operational production of "Spanish Guitars" from the Japanese Hiyashi
factory;- Between when Jack Westheimer walked in the facilities with
the blueprint of your Dove, and when Pearl bought them out by1970,
which then makes your cap.

Pudentame

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Apr 27, 2018, 1:34:04 PM4/27/18
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On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:58:29 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:
Does it have the "open book" headstock design?

One of the two guitars I've ever had stolen was a "Aria" lawsuit
guitar that had the "open book" headstock. Purchased ca 1969 and
stolen in 1981.

It's been so long now I'm not even sure if it was a Dove or a
Hummingbird copy.

Flasherly

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Apr 27, 2018, 7:23:53 PM4/27/18
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 13:34:09 -0400, Pudentame
<no....@no.where.invalid> wrote:

>Does it have the "open book" headstock design?
>
>One of the two guitars I've ever had stolen was a "Aria" lawsuit
>guitar that had the "open book" headstock. Purchased ca 1969 and
>stolen in 1981.
>
>It's been so long now I'm not even sure if it was a Dove or a
>Hummingbird copy.

The article/site I was reading from when posting that mentioned but
didn't especially delve into the "lawsuit" aspects. Sounds about
right, though, from early sixties, for a formulaic stage of guitar
designs, especially electrics. A limitation of "folk" musical
influences, on acoustics, also mentioned, which still had a popular
conception near to classicism or an extent given non-electric, (aka
cat-gut), "Spanish" guitars. The 1969 date of yours being the
switch-over and reaction, I'll bet Gibson would have spearheaded, for
closing in on the copyright loops Jack Westheimer, probably others,
used for cashing in on Japanese alternatives to fashioning an American
musical instrument market.

Play it loose, fast and easy -- for the money, I'd also assume. . .
Nobody's, at that time, going to more interested in satisfying
customer pedigreed aspects, off cheap Japanese knock-offs, past what
it takes to slip in their hand, into your back pocket, for bill or two
over an Asian production cost/labor outlay. A niche collector
interested in documenting a contrarian effect for circumventing
American copyrights is going to have special considerations and
challenges to make that work.

Pudentame

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May 1, 2018, 9:54:52 PM5/1/18
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On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 19:23:49 -0400, Flasherly <Flas...@live.com>
wrote:
I bought it for around $200, which was a considerable chunk of change
at the time. A genuine "Made in the USA" Fender Stratocaster (Fender
didn't make guitars anywhere else at the time) didn't cost much more
than $300 - $350 and Gibson Flat top guitars were in the $300 - $800
range (if I remember correctly).

Flasherly

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May 2, 2018, 1:11:14 AM5/2/18
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Figured around that, although wasn't sure what a Gibson, or Fender,
primo-quality guitar might run. $800 even for tops then sounds
choicey -- a 6V Volkswagen, import "Bug" was $600 at some point
thereabouts (a decade perhaps prior). Although Japanese factories
your Aria came from were of high regard for superior workmanship.

Saw a Fender Strat a couple days ago, a WEB sale for $1100, probably
half off, with several positive posts from people drooling that they
wanted it. In the musicradar link (on Gibson's Ch11) one of Fender's
(present-day) sales advantages is mentioned: For half of the people
that will purchase a Fender, it will be their first time up,
presumably to also step into musicality, and play their first note
instrumentally from a guitar.

I first studied from piano, but that went out the window in a hurry
when I heard old classical Spanish scores and a character to a guitar
capable of playing them.
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