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b.f.

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Nov 7, 2009, 4:04:39 PM11/7/09
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I have a Kahler cam-operated trem that I am planning to replace the
bearings and springs. Since I have never disassembled this unit
before, was wondering what the process was for removing the existing
bearings etc. and installing the new ones. Anybody know of any
potential problems I should look out for? Thanks in advance.

Too Long in the Wasteland

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Nov 8, 2009, 10:34:59 AM11/8/09
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b.f. wrote:
> I have a Kahler cam-operated trem that I am planning to replace the
> bearings and springs.

why ? does it need it ?

David Light

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:04:47 PM11/8/09
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TheChris

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:05:54 PM11/8/09
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"b.f." <bf...@msn.com> wrote in news:0f6a5f41-beee-4fc8-87d0-
a0acfa...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:

On the off chance that you've figured this out... I'd LOVE to replace my
Spyders with ANY non-locking trems that match up with the existing posts..

If you have a solution for that, I'll GIVE you BOTH of my trems and all my
extra parts..

Stephen Cowell

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Nov 8, 2009, 12:56:41 PM11/8/09
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"Too Long in the Wasteland" <t...@log.com> wrote

There are faster and easier ways to tone-suck
territory... I have replaced bearings in a Kahler
roller bridge... it didn't help, at all. Rollers
have stiction and internal moving parts...
fulcrums don't. End-of-story.
__
Steve
.


Patrick Keenan

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Nov 8, 2009, 5:10:29 PM11/8/09
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"Too Long in the Wasteland" <t...@log.com> wrote in message
news:4af6e53c$0$5331$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...

A common reason for bearing replacement on copies of Kahlers was that
inferior bearings were used, and the result of the basic design flaw
surfaced faster.

The Kahler cam design uses roller bearings, which are designed for axial
rotation, not to support a laterally focused load. In the Kahler
application, the bearing may never come anywhere near a single rotation
after installation. Consequently, the bearing elements can deform and
flatten, causing 'sticking points'.

HTH
-pk

b.f.

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Nov 10, 2009, 8:40:44 PM11/10/09
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On Nov 8, 4:10 pm, "Patrick Keenan" <t...@dev.null> wrote:
> "Too Long in the Wasteland" <t...@log.com> wrote in messagenews:4af6e53c$0$5331$bbae...@news.suddenlink.net...

Okay, let's see... aside from the one guy with the link to the website
from which I bought the parts originally, (which actually did have a
brief 3 step overview of the process... helpful, just not very
detailed, but I thank you, sir, for responding)) I got a guy who
answered the question with a question, a guy with a problem of his own
unrelated to the question, a guy who (according to him) has actually
done the process in question but instead of recounting how, preferred
instead to negate the need to answer by negating the question with a
distinct tone of know-it-all superiority, and finally a guy who
clearly had been waiting a long time to dispense (at great length) his
own obscure theoretical meanderings in answer to another question
completely irrelevant to the reason I asked the question originally...
which was simply the desire to take a treasured instrument which has
performed magnificently for over 20 years, and correctly give it the
mechanical upgrade that I felt it deserved, without all the unwanted
"laterally focused load" bullshit! You know, this newsgroup used to be
a valuable source of accumulated knowledge and wisdom, but those days
are long gone... now it seems to be just a haven for antagonistic
posers and lip-flapping bullshit artists... and I'm not even talking
about the delusional "Warrior" or the ridiculous "Rose"... (If anyone
actually wants to hear the guitar in question, I would direct you to
www.myspace.com/brettflowerselement)

Nil

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Nov 10, 2009, 9:45:07 PM11/10/09
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On 10 Nov 2009, "b.f." <bf...@msn.com> wrote in alt.guitar:

> You know, this newsgroup used to be a valuable source of
> accumulated knowledge and wisdom, but those days are long gone...
> now it seems to be just a haven for antagonistic posers and
> lip-flapping bullshit artists...

Wah wah wah. Go have yourself a good cry and when you feel up to it,
apply for a refund.

Oh, and thank you so much for enriching us with all your recent
valuable contributions to our accumulated knowledge.

RichL

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Nov 10, 2009, 10:36:29 PM11/10/09
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Take it to a tech. Cheapskate.


b.f.

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:03:17 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 8:45 pm, Nil <redno...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

You're welcome!

b.f.

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:04:35 PM11/11/09
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On Nov 10, 9:36 pm, "RichL" <rpleav...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks for the advice, Mr. Cheapskate!

jerryfl...@gmail.com

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Jun 1, 2014, 1:14:24 PM6/1/14
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What a bunch of asses, Some of us do rebuild and work on our own stuff.

Nil

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Jun 1, 2014, 2:29:53 PM6/1/14
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On 01 Jun 2014, jerryfl...@gmail.com wrote in alt.guitar:

> What a bunch of asses, Some of us do rebuild and work on our own
> stuff.

Yes, you're right about that.

Too right, unfortunately. You see, in December 2009, Mr. b.f. was on a
hike to the bottom of Grand Canyon when he spooked an actual wild ass
on the trail. The animal panicked and charged him, knocking him off the
path into the chasm below. It was several days before he was missed and
in the meantime an unusually severe winter storm made it too hazardous
for a search party to descend. By the time they found his remains,
coyotes had picked the bones clean and scattered them over a wide area.
Curiously, the only parts that were left uneaten were his hands.

Flasherly

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Jun 1, 2014, 2:43:07 PM6/1/14
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2014 10:14:24 -0700 (PDT), jerryfl...@gmail.com
wrote:

>What a bunch of asses, Some of us do rebuild and work on our own stuff.

I was looking at something like that (two stage, tho, unlike the
integrated Kahler), aftermarket for a roller string guides on a Squire
Phase VI bass bridge assembly. Setting it up for potentially lower
action and changing stock pitched tuning (and string gauge) an octave
up to a regular guitar. Except it would be one honking very big
guitar, instead, with Cowboy Frets all over Hell.

Also wondering what a handful of resistors and caps actually cost at
under $50, to sell for $50, anyway, on Ebay, as a "kit" to charge to
change a Fender HR Deluxe Ch2's drive out of its articulatory
darkness, obscurely reckoned with Plato's cave, for those of course
of brighter claimed inclinations.

Of course everyone knows the Team Engineering selection's inspired
mission in modern amp facilities is chosen to make good sound at low
volumes for the first cornerstone, a showroom floor. A fundamental
principle of economics, nationality as would be to create opportunity,
to ensure never to impede or infringe upon that very facet at all
differently from, evidently, free will.

-
Every crowd has its silver lining, and there's a sucker born every
minute.

Flasherly

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Jun 1, 2014, 2:56:05 PM6/1/14
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Woe be upon b.f., then...

Though Octavian owed his success in part to Cicero, he chose not to
extend his protection to Cicero and his family.

Cicero, his brother, and his nephew tried somewhat belatedly to flee
Italy. His brother and nephew turned aside to collect more money for
the trip, and were killed.

Cicero kept going.

Plutarch describes the end of Cicero’s life: “Cicero heard [his
pursuers] coming and ordered his servants to set the litter [in which
he was being carried] down where they were. He…looked steadfastly at
his murderers. He was all covered in dust; his hair was long and
disordered, and his face was pinched and wasted with his anxieties –
so that most of those who stood by covered their faces while Herennius
was killing him. His throat was cut as he stretched his neck out from
the litter….

By Antony’s orders Herennius cut off his head and his hands.” Antony
then had Cicero’s head and hands nailed to the speaker’s podium in the
Senate as a warning to others.

Cicero’s son, also named Marcus, who was in Greece at this time, was
not executed. He became consul in 30 BC under Octavian, who had
defeated Antony after the Second Triumvirate collapsed. As consul, the
younger Marcus got to announce Antony’s suicide to the Senate.

It is unfortunate that we have no record of this speech.

http://www.iep.utm.edu/cicero/
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