my new favorite speakers! Celestion G12H30
Squier
they are 8 ohm cabs (16 ohm speakers wired in parallel) and when I use
both I can connect cabs parallel (4 ohm) or series (16 ohm) and obviously
using one 2x12 is 8 ohm.
Anyways - I loaded up each 2x12 cab with one Celestion G12H30 Anniversary
which is 75hz cone and Celestion "Heritage" G12H30 which is 55hz cone.
Oh my!!!!! These cabs are really punchy! They make excellent live gig
cabs. I'll never get lost in any mix with these things.
The only thing (which is fine for live gigs) is that even when I back
off pick attack the cab(s) still sound punchy - they go from punch to
all out LOUD crunch. These are not speakers for the 'nuance' crowd.
But they sit real nice in the mix at rehearsal and give me a nice
big girth to the sound that stays tight until I really pummel it
and then they do a big fat crunch (the amp is a Fender Prosonic head
which is actually a little know Fender amp - think 'Supersonic' with
more balls but can also swithc to clean channel which is like a
studly blackface sort of clean channel).
The previous speakers I was mostly using were 2x12 with Vintage 30's.
I really liked them but there was something about them that just got
my ear tired after a while. If I was playing mostly leads they would
be great but they really never could get me a good foundation rhythm tone.
The G12H30's get me everything I want for now. Really nice.
I don't have any clips to share right now but when we record I'll
post a few up. I just feel like I can now get everything from old skool
sounds to more modern and I can sit back in the mix or really wind it
up and have a huge rhythm sound or a nice fat lead tone from these speakers.
It won't do classic chimey/spanky Fender clean country - but we do play
some modern country and they do the chime/grind thing very well.
Anyways - if you ever feel your live rig sounds a little anemic/thin
or get tired of trying to get fat rhythms through a honking/nasal V30 speaker -
try out the Celestion G12H30's 75 and 55hz cones. Whoa!
These speakers even make open back 1x12's sound authoritative.
The home players may not like 'em - but for gigs they are great speakers.
IUnknown
It is nice when you find a nice speaker combo. Sometimes, folks seem
to forget that matching speaker to amplifier is almost as critical as
matching pickups to guitar or tubes to amps. Some speakers sound awful
with certain amps... for instance, my 6505+ sounds AWFUL with vintage
30's....
However, I played it through an older HK 4x12 w/ celestion G12L35
speakers and it blew me away. It had that low-midrange grind of a
vintage 30, while being 'smoother' in the upper mids.... Cuts through
a mix ... and has enough balls (for a low mass magnet).
The G12L35 was a 'low cost' 'low mass magnet' speaker that was briefly
produced by celestion in the 80's and 90's .... can't get 'em anymore
(except for fleabay) so I gotta be gentle!
Les Cargill
>
> It is nice when you find a nice speaker combo. Sometimes, folks seem
> to forget that matching speaker to amplifier is almost as critical as
> matching pickups to guitar or tubes to amps. Some speakers sound awful
> with certain amps... for instance, my 6505+ sounds AWFUL with vintage
> 30's....
>
I really like the 75 watt Celestions. The only
thing that didn't sound good through them is
an 8-watt Peavey Transtube.
> However, I played it through an older HK 4x12 w/ celestion G12L35
> speakers and it blew me away. It had that low-midrange grind of a
> vintage 30, while being 'smoother' in the upper mids.... Cuts through
> a mix ... and has enough balls (for a low mass magnet).
>
> The G12L35 was a 'low cost' 'low mass magnet' speaker that was briefly
> produced by celestion in the 80's and 90's .... can't get 'em anymore
> (except for fleabay) so I gotta be gentle!
>
>
>
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Les Cargill
jtees4
Never tried them, but I do know that I generally hate Vintage 30's.
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LULU
> they are 8 ohm cabs (16 ohm speakers wired in parallel) and when I use
> both I can connect cabs parallel (4 ohm) or series (16 ohm) and obviously
> using one 2x12 is 8 ohm.
>
> Anyways - I loaded up each 2x12 cab with one Celestion G12H30 Anniversary
> which is 75hz cone and Celestion "Heritage" G12H30 which is 55hz cone.
I also like to mix different Celestion speakers in a 2x12 cabinet. An
open back cabinet for use around the house and a closed back for most
live situations. Depending on what type of music you're playing and
how loud you need your live sound to be, JBL 120F-6 Signature speakers
might be of interest to you. They retain good tone while cutting
through the mix. I think that they sound best when driven by older
(early 70's) Marshall 100 watt Super Leads. There's a lot of ways to
go, huh? Here's a YouTube clip that shows a demo of 4 different
Celestion speakers using a Rivera Venus 6.
Enjoy,
Lulu : )
Celestion V30 vs G12H30 vsG12T75 vs K100 w Rivera Venus 6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9acguJjsgDg
Claude V. Lucas
My last 4x12 ( Orange ) was loaded in a "X" pattern with 2 original
30watt/55Hz blackbacks and 2 weirdo JBL D120s with copper colored dustcaps
that probably came from Fender's short-lived but memorable astrology named amps.
Capricorn, anyone?
Great sounding cabinet. Warm, clear and articulate without being sterile.
Sometimes I miss it.
Don't miss moving it...
LULU
> In article <22bb216c-5add-452e-8a55-9edfda369...@p22g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
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Ah . . . the infamous Fender Zodiac series. They were made from
1969-1971. They were Fender's foray into SS amps. IIRC there were
the Libra, Capricorn, Scorpio and Taurus. All had JBL speakers.
Here's a photo for reference. http://tinyurl.com/2385mlp Some had
grey frames, but most of the ones that I've seen in Fender amps have
orange frames. JBL made a similar speaker used primarily in PA
cabinets. They don't work very well at all in guitar amps. The
orange dust cap looks kind of retro cool.
Lulu : )
boardjunkie
I czeched that out......the Emi Tonker seemed to be the best overall
to my ear, but the source was kinda fizzy and mid scooped so.....
Claude V. Lucas
Yep, that's it.
Capricorn had 3 of 'em... ????
I doubt if they sounded any different than the silver dustcap ones.
They're too bright for Marshalls by themselves,
IMO, but mix well with Celestions adding a bit of warmth..
LULU
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Watched a different video did we? Maybe this one?
? ? ?
Lulu ; )
boardjunkie
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Yep...thats it. Got sidetracked I guess....