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Greendistantstar

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Jan 3, 2010, 11:41:14 PM1/3/10
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I remember a couple of guitars (basses in this case) that were quality instruments but they seem to
have disappeared. The ones I'm thinking of are Alembic and Pedulla. Does anyone else remember them?

Damn they were nice. Any others that should have been classics but never seemed to make it?

GDS

"Let's roll!"

sand...@hotmail.com

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:06:35 AM1/4/10
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Phil Lesh comes to mind.
Check here.
http://www.alembic.com/
Cheers---Sandoz---

notbob

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Jan 4, 2010, 1:31:06 AM1/4/10
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On 2010-01-04, Greendistantstar <Greendis...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> I remember a couple of guitars (basses in this case) that were quality instruments but they seem to
> have disappeared. The ones I'm thinking of are Alembic and Pedulla. Does anyone else remember them?

I recall alembic electronics which grew from small SF recording studio
to major sound system provider for Greatful Dead and all around
electronics/sound innovator. My only close up exposure was when I
bought a Japanese tele clone with built in alembic phase shifter.
Unfortuately, the frets were not properly placed and it could not be
accurately tuned, so I returned it. Never played one, but I remember
alembic basses were just about the ugliest instrument to ever sport
pick-ups!

nb

Tony Done

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Jan 4, 2010, 2:49:13 AM1/4/10
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"Greendistantstar" <Greendis...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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My music store mate bought an Alembic just recently as an investment and
also as a player. Apparently highly sought after, big $, and heavy as hell.
He couldn't play it for a while after he bought it, due to his bad back. It
looked well made though, and he says the tone is very good. I wouldn't know,
all basses sound the same to me.

Tony D

sa...@dog.com

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Jan 4, 2010, 5:59:12 AM1/4/10
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On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 23:06:35 -0700, sand...@hotmail.com wrote:

>Phil Lesh comes to mind.
>Check here.
>http://www.alembic.com/
>Cheers---Sandoz---
>

The Grateful Dead bankrolled Alembic. The reason you don't see many,
is that they don't make many, and they don't advertise.

notbob

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Jan 4, 2010, 7:00:11 AM1/4/10
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On 2010-01-04, sa...@dog.com <sa...@dog.com> wrote:

> is that they don't make many, and they don't advertise.

What could they say?

"Dude! Buy our git. Butt ugly, but got cool electrons."

nb

Dr. Zontar

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:08:08 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 11:41 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
wrote:

> I remember a couple of guitars (basses in this case) that were quality instruments but they seem to
> have disappeared. The ones I'm thinking of are Alembic and Pedulla. Does anyone else remember them?

Didn't Pedulla only make basses? I never saw a guitar from them.

Alembic made both. They were probably best known for Jerry Garcia's
custom guitars and Stanley Clarke's basses. They got the nickname
"Hippie Sandwiches" due to the stripes of contrasting wood they used.
This probably hurt them when punk came along and hippies were no
longer cool. Plus they were expensive and made in small numbers.

- Rich

Arlowe

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:20:46 AM1/4/10
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Tony Done has brought this to us :

All sound the same? really?
Listen to some Rickenbacker 4003s on you tube...compare them to a
Fender Precision...
I can hear a rick go "pop-wow" and the fender go "pop-hummm" when
slapped
If you use a flat pick on a Rick..it's a whole different animal.
Cool beyond belief :)
I don't like the sound of a fender being played with a pick

I can't comment on an Alembic...


boardjunkie

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:25:21 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 4, 1:06 am, sando...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Phil Lesh comes to mind.
> Check here.http://www.alembic.com/
> >"Let's roll!"- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Pete Agnew from Nazareth has been a hardcore Alembic user since the
mid '70s.

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ed s

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:11:24 AM1/4/10
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On Jan 3, 10:41 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants...@iinet.net.au>
wrote:

My band mate in the 70's had a custom Alembic exploer guitar - see
pic. (need to zoom to see it.).
http://www.sectr5.com/old_gear__pictures
It was expensive and looked good & sounded great.
And a Ricky aint no Jazz bass .. ed

Greendistantstar

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Jan 4, 2010, 9:22:04 AM1/4/10
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sa...@dog.com wrote:
> On Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:41:14 +0800, Greendistantstar
> Not sure what you mean by "never seemed to make it"
>
> Do you mean by the same yardstick used to claim that Roy Buchannan or
> Jesse Edwin Davis never seemed to make it?
>
> Not everything in this world is judged by quantity or sales figures.
> McDonalds doesn't exactly serve the best food I've ever tasted...

I'll clarify. Alembic and Pedulla were to my mind and hands, quality instruments. Now it seems that
Alembic are still in production so that disqualifies them from the definition of guitars that have
'passed away'. The recently discussed Ovation Deacon and Breadwinner are other examples of guitars
that were good enough to have survived, but didn't.

Back in the early 70s, before they became high quality guitars, Ibanez made an SG copy that was
really very good. I bought one cos it was all I could afford at the time; now they are as rare as
hen's teeth. Yeah, I sold mine long ago...tsk tsk...

GDS

"Let's roll!"

Tony Done

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Jan 4, 2010, 3:26:45 PM1/4/10
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"Arlowe" <bare....@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Nah, just kidding a bit, because I don't play bass and the differences
aren't so obvious to me. Differences in guitars, both electric and acoustic,
are lot more obvious when I'm playing them than when I listen to someone
else. My other bass-playing mate (I only have two) has an old Vantage bass
that I thought sounded better then the few others he brought for try-out at
practice, it has a quality that reminded me of bass viol. Unfortunately the
upper body horn is very short, so the balance is bad and he doesn't like
playing it. The one who owns the Alembic and one of the local music stores
is probably the best bass player in town, but he hasn't gigged for years
because of business and domestic commitments.

Tony D

RichL

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Jan 4, 2010, 8:05:40 PM1/4/10
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Bingo. I'm a 4001 owner :-)


Russell Watson

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Jan 5, 2010, 12:07:40 AM1/5/10
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I remember the first time my little brother saw one: "It looks like a
guitar-shaped cookie!"

sand...@hotmail.com

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Jan 5, 2010, 4:23:53 AM1/5/10
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There's a bit in The Grateful Dead Movie where they take the cover off
of Phil Lesh's Alembic. I was loaded to the nuts with electronics.
Must have weighed a ton. He had a huge sheepskin strap to keep it from
snapping his collarbone.---Sandoz---

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notbob

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Jan 5, 2010, 6:47:11 PM1/5/10
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On 2010-01-05, Russell Watson <russell...@comcast.net> wrote:

> I remember the first time my little brother saw one: "It looks like a
> guitar-shaped cookie!"

Heh....

My take was a piece of "that'll never sell" driftwood. ;)

nb

OscartheGrouch

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Jan 7, 2010, 10:25:05 PM1/7/10
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notbob wrote:
> On 2010-01-05, Russell Watson <russell...@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> I remember the first time my little brother saw one: "It looks like a
>> guitar-shaped cookie!"

Russell, get back to The Shield ng.

Russell Watson

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Jan 9, 2010, 3:08:50 PM1/9/10
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What're you doing here, Oscar? You a guitar noodler, too?!?!

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